Post by: BuddyLeeX on July 21, 2005, 09:48:00 PM
and well, didnt come out the way i expected just like every other mod the first time.
I followed the instructions in the tutorial, besides the multimeter part, since i don't have one i just skipped that step, and followed the shitty diagram of the molex connections to the DPDT switch.
BTW I bought the cable from Llamaa's xbox parts website, but it was poorly made and the mid connector broke off, but that was after i tested the drives and was taking it off.
Now to the problem, basically, only one drive gets power. I have a WD 160gb and my stock Seagate 10gb. When the connector gave the WD power, it booted up, i switch over, and the Seagate got nothing, so i switched the power cables to the HDs, and now neither work, but i hear the seagate spinning up now.
I have come to the conclusion that the seagate does not like multiple drives on the cable, i disconnected teh WD and the seagate worked fine, then reconnected the WD and the seagate would not boot. So this is a two part question.
Why am I only getting power to one molex, and why does my stock seagate not like other HDs on the cable?
Post by: BuddyLeeX on July 22, 2005, 06:49:00 AM
BTW Im not a total dumbass, I know a little of what Im doing, Im just not an electronics major so Im having problems understand why Im only getting power to one molex. And I also tested out the jumpers on the back of the HDs, all tries unsuccessful, so i left both on cable select.
Im hoping to format my other 8gb WD and see if that WD works, if it does, that solves one problem and then I need to solve why im only getting power to one molex(if im wording that weird, that means on the up position switch, it is powering HD#1, on the down position switch, it is NOT powering HD#2) get it now?
Post by: madsci1016 on July 22, 2005, 12:11:00 PM
Post by: BuddyLeeX on July 22, 2005, 04:34:00 PM
star, i tried all those, and neither works, what i concluded is that one of the molex is bad or my contacts from that molex on the DPDT switch are bad i just have to mess with that.
Post by: Chewonit64 on July 22, 2005, 11:55:00 PM
Also do you have your dashboard on BOTH drives? If not it won't boot from the one that doesn't have it (Obviously)
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on July 23, 2005, 01:33:00 AM
Post by: BuddyLeeX on July 23, 2005, 03:02:00 AM
QUOTE(Chewonit64 @ Jul 23 2005, 08:06 AM)
If your still trying to figure out why only one drive gets power that is because the switch send power to one or the other. ONLY ONE DRIVE should have power. If both drive are getting power nothing will work properly.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: garyopa on July 23, 2005, 04:14:00 AM
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Replace your DPDT switch it must be defective.
Also remember when you do get the power problem fixed,
some combo's of drives DO NOT WORK together, no matter
what.
I have done many of this mods, including buying the Xtender
kit, and it does work well when it works, and also fails well
when it does not work, but once you get a working cable
and working switch and working combo of drives, the system
works very well.
Just replace your DPDT switch, and resolder all the power
connections and you should be fine. Make sure the crimping
of the little tubes in the molex connector are tight also, some
times they can be a little loose and not feed power to the drive.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on July 23, 2005, 07:30:00 AM
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what they mean is that for some realy fucked up techncial reason, they just dont work when they are on the same cable. ive talked to a few technicans, and they say its just down to the individal components of the hdds, even when they arnt powered.
so theres nothign you can do about it, except get a new hard drive, if you havent tried to switch some of the ide pins (works in most cases when not switching any pins on the ide doesnt work)
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: BuddyLeeX on July 23, 2005, 08:45:00 AM
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alright, ya thats pretty shitty though. Mostly everything I buy from Llammaa is good, but I guess i bought two shit items from him this time, how gay. The IDE cable was really weird anyways because the 3rd connecter was so close to the first one that it couldnt reach the HD cradle, and the fourth one was SOO FAR AWAY from the third one, it didnt even seem like it was made for this mod. Im really dissappointed.
Well, ok so you think its the DPDT switch? I hope so, and I hope its not my soldering cause it looks fine, Ill check the crimps in the molex also. Also just in case, let me tell you how i did this.
picture: Molex Pic (LARGE PICS WARNING)
I got the molex with a 1 female, 2 male connector. on the female end, i cut off one both yellow and red wires, one of each i eliminated. the one i didnt eliminate i soldered to the IN points on DPDT. Those are the smaller wires that Im holding. These red/yellow wires in the female were coming from the two males, which those wires i connecred to their respective spots. Now as you see, all 4 grounds from the males are going into the female molex and left it as is. Is that a problem?
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: BuddyLeeX on July 23, 2005, 01:35:00 PM
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i found this on llammas site, this is EXACTLY how i did it, except i used extra wire to connect female connecter to eh DPDT so it isnt so stubby like llammas
http://www.llamma.co...cable_udma_.htm
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on July 23, 2005, 05:06:00 PM
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Post by: garyopa on July 23, 2005, 04:14:00 AM
Also remember when you do get the power problem fixed,
some combo's of drives DO NOT WORK together, no matter
what.
I have done many of this mods, including buying the Xtender
kit, and it does work well when it works, and also fails well
when it does not work, but once you get a working cable
and working switch and working combo of drives, the system
works very well.
Just replace your DPDT switch, and resolder all the power
connections and you should be fine. Make sure the crimping
of the little tubes in the molex connector are tight also, some
times they can be a little loose and not feed power to the drive.
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on July 23, 2005, 07:30:00 AM
QUOTE(StarFishie @ Jul 23 2005, 09:39 PM)
Yes, this is true some drives dont communicate with each other....
BUT in actuality the 2 harddrives will never communicate cause only 1 gets power at a time.
The only communication between drives will be 1 (of the 2) harddrives & dvdRom drive.
BUT in actuality the 2 harddrives will never communicate cause only 1 gets power at a time.
The only communication between drives will be 1 (of the 2) harddrives & dvdRom drive.
what they mean is that for some realy fucked up techncial reason, they just dont work when they are on the same cable. ive talked to a few technicans, and they say its just down to the individal components of the hdds, even when they arnt powered.
so theres nothign you can do about it, except get a new hard drive, if you havent tried to switch some of the ide pins (works in most cases when not switching any pins on the ide doesnt work)
Post by: BuddyLeeX on July 23, 2005, 08:45:00 AM
Well, ok so you think its the DPDT switch? I hope so, and I hope its not my soldering cause it looks fine, Ill check the crimps in the molex also. Also just in case, let me tell you how i did this.
picture: Molex Pic (LARGE PICS WARNING)
I got the molex with a 1 female, 2 male connector. on the female end, i cut off one both yellow and red wires, one of each i eliminated. the one i didnt eliminate i soldered to the IN points on DPDT. Those are the smaller wires that Im holding. These red/yellow wires in the female were coming from the two males, which those wires i connecred to their respective spots. Now as you see, all 4 grounds from the males are going into the female molex and left it as is. Is that a problem?
Post by: BuddyLeeX on July 23, 2005, 01:35:00 PM
http://www.llamma.co...cable_udma_.htm
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on July 23, 2005, 05:06:00 PM
QUOTE(BuddyLeeX @ Jul 24 2005, 06:46 AM)
i found this on llammas site, this is EXACTLY how i did it, except i used extra wire to connect female connecter to eh DPDT so it isnt so stubby like llammas
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: BuddyLeeX on July 23, 2005, 05:11:00 PM
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well i dont just have the hd problem, i have a power problem.
I also figured somethign out, in Llammas tut, another one he made it said to use a ON ON switch, and possibiliy he sent me a ON OFF ON?
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on July 23, 2005, 05:12:00 PM
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Post by: BuddyLeeX on July 23, 2005, 05:11:00 PM
I also figured somethign out, in Llammas tut, another one he made it said to use a ON ON switch, and possibiliy he sent me a ON OFF ON?
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on July 23, 2005, 05:12:00 PM
QUOTE(BuddyLeeX @ Jul 24 2005, 10:22 AM)
well i dont just have the hd problem, i have a power problem.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: BuddyLeeX on July 23, 2005, 06:12:00 PM
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ok well, im VERY surprised at my findings. So I bought another DPDT switch, same thing, i think, its a 5amp, DPDT ON/ON switch. Soldered it just like I did the other, and now both HDs get power on the switches respected position. So Llamma sold me nothing but shit, i cant believe it. First the IDE cable isnt even the right lengths, then it falls apart, and now i found out the DPDT switch was either the wrong one for this mod or faulty.
Thanks for everyones help, now that I solved my biggest problem, i think i can tackle the HD issue, im just going to end up using my other 8gb stock WD drive, and hopefully the two drives can get along on one cable, then i have to find a place that sells 3 or 4 device IDE cables. Does Radio shack sell em? OR any place online? Ive searched no dice.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: BuddyLeeX on July 23, 2005, 07:17:00 PM
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ok, well...this really sux. I tested out my other stock 8gb hd off another hd. Formated it, created new drive with xboxhdm, then tested it out on the box alone to see if it worked, it did. so i hooked them both up and, i get the same damn thing. Error 9 all the time.
So does anyone have a list of HDs compatible with other drives being on the IDE cable? I know my WD 160gb is but umm...i dont need a hd that big, possibly they started making them around 15-20, i need somethign cheap i guess.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on July 23, 2005, 11:47:00 PM
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Post by: BuddyLeeX on July 23, 2005, 06:12:00 PM
Thanks for everyones help, now that I solved my biggest problem, i think i can tackle the HD issue, im just going to end up using my other 8gb stock WD drive, and hopefully the two drives can get along on one cable, then i have to find a place that sells 3 or 4 device IDE cables. Does Radio shack sell em? OR any place online? Ive searched no dice.
Post by: BuddyLeeX on July 23, 2005, 07:17:00 PM
So does anyone have a list of HDs compatible with other drives being on the IDE cable? I know my WD 160gb is but umm...i dont need a hd that big, possibly they started making them around 15-20, i need somethign cheap i guess.
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on July 23, 2005, 11:47:00 PM
QUOTE(BuddyLeeX @ Jul 24 2005, 12:28 PM)
ok, well...this really sux. I tested out my other stock 8gb hd off another hd. Formated it, created new drive with xboxhdm, then tested it out on the box alone to see if it worked, it did. so i hooked them both up and, i get the same damn thing. Error 9 all the time.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: madsci1016 on August 02, 2005, 06:02:00 AM
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i have searched forever on what pins should be switched. if you know of a tut ferrari, please post the link.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on August 02, 2005, 06:31:00 AM
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Post by: madsci1016 on August 02, 2005, 06:02:00 AM
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on August 02, 2005, 06:31:00 AM
QUOTE(madsci1016 @ Aug 2 2005, 11:13 PM)
i have searched forever on what pins should be switched. if you know of a tut ferrari, please post the link.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on August 02, 2005, 06:43:00 AM
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ok, well i swear it was in this post...
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: Kev102189 on August 02, 2005, 09:32:00 AM
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Let me know when you find it. I'm planning on doing this mod as soon as I find some IDE cables.
Kevin
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: BuddyLeeX on August 02, 2005, 11:34:00 AM
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kev and ferrari, the IDE pin thing does not work.
What I did was, went to Frys Retail store(outpost.com) and got me a Male-Female-Male IDE cable. I ran the IDE cable like I normally do, and instead of plugging it in the first HD I plugged it in the female connector on my new IDE cable I got from the store.
Now, the short end connects to the hd in the xbox (stock hd), and the long end connects to the HD outside the box (modded hd). By having the modded hd on the outside enables me to sitch the DPDT switch to the stock hd and also remove the IDE cable to the modded hd, enabling the stock hd to work. give it a try.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on August 03, 2005, 02:59:00 AM
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Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on August 02, 2005, 06:43:00 AM
Post by: Kev102189 on August 02, 2005, 09:32:00 AM
Kevin
Post by: BuddyLeeX on August 02, 2005, 11:34:00 AM
What I did was, went to Frys Retail store(outpost.com) and got me a Male-Female-Male IDE cable. I ran the IDE cable like I normally do, and instead of plugging it in the first HD I plugged it in the female connector on my new IDE cable I got from the store.
Now, the short end connects to the hd in the xbox (stock hd), and the long end connects to the HD outside the box (modded hd). By having the modded hd on the outside enables me to sitch the DPDT switch to the stock hd and also remove the IDE cable to the modded hd, enabling the stock hd to work. give it a try.
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on August 03, 2005, 02:59:00 AM
QUOTE(BuddyLeeX @ Aug 3 2005, 04:45 AM)
Now, the short end connects to the hd in the xbox (stock hd), and the long end connects to the HD outside the box (modded hd). By having the modded hd on the outside enables me to sitch the DPDT switch to the stock hd and also remove the IDE cable to the modded hd, enabling the stock hd to work. give it a try.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: Kev102189 on August 06, 2005, 10:20:00 PM
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Do you have a link to anywhere selling that, I couldn't find it at outpost.com, or I don't understand exactly what it's supposed to be. If you could post a link, that'd be great.
Thanks
Kevin
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on August 07, 2005, 02:25:00 AM
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Post by: Kev102189 on August 06, 2005, 10:20:00 PM
Thanks
Kevin
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on August 07, 2005, 02:25:00 AM
QUOTE(Kev102189 @ Aug 7 2005, 03:31 PM)
Do you have a link to anywhere selling that, I couldn't find it at outpost.com, or I don't understand exactly what it's supposed to be. If you could post a link, that'd be great.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: Kev102189 on August 07, 2005, 06:39:00 PM
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How? actually, I guess I could use another IDE from an xbox, uncrimp the middle connector and add a female there. Good idea! Now I just need a female ATA connector, although I still wish I knew where to find uncrimped IDE cable.
Kevin
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on August 08, 2005, 02:15:00 AM
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Post by: Kev102189 on August 07, 2005, 06:39:00 PM
Kevin
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on August 08, 2005, 02:15:00 AM
QUOTE(Kev102189 @ Aug 8 2005, 11:50 AM)
I still wish I knew where to find uncrimped IDE cable.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: Kev102189 on August 08, 2005, 08:49:00 AM
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I've called every computer place I could get a hold of in Reno (a pretty big city), still can't find it.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: BuddyLeeX on August 08, 2005, 12:42:00 PM
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outpost.com doesnt have everything Frys has, but Im sure if you do a search on the internet you could find a Male-Female-Male connector, you might be lucky to find it in Reno but if you don't have a Frys there then I don't know where you can get it locally unless a computer store.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: Kev102189 on August 08, 2005, 12:45:00 PM
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Yeah, I'll keep looking around, thanks for the help though!
Kevin
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: BuddyLeeX on August 08, 2005, 12:52:00 PM
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oh how close are u to las vegas? I looked at their website and there is one in las vegas.
http://www.frys.com/
if you make the trip and like computer stuff and other electronics, you will not be disappointed
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on August 09, 2005, 12:39:00 AM
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Post by: Kev102189 on August 08, 2005, 08:49:00 AM
Post by: BuddyLeeX on August 08, 2005, 12:42:00 PM
Post by: Kev102189 on August 08, 2005, 12:45:00 PM
Kevin
Post by: BuddyLeeX on August 08, 2005, 12:52:00 PM
http://www.frys.com/
if you make the trip and like computer stuff and other electronics, you will not be disappointed
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on August 09, 2005, 12:39:00 AM
QUOTE(Kev102189 @ Aug 9 2005, 02:00 AM)
I've called every computer place I could get a hold of in Reno (a pretty big city), still can't find it.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: CabezaDeGallo on August 09, 2005, 11:59:00 AM
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it is spelled customized, with a z
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: 00g on August 09, 2005, 12:43:00 PM
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I'm not sure whether this will help or not. But I didn't have any problems with the power or HDD's, my main problem was fitting it all in the case.
I did this back in March.
I used:
1 Stock Seagate HDD
1 Maxtor 160gb HDD
I picked up a long IDE cable. Took apart a different cable, to get the connector off of it. Placed the connector at the desired position on the new cable, pressed it on. Now I had a cable with 4 connectors on it (total). (I can't seem to find the IDE cable I made. I would have posted a picture of it.....)
Then I got a Y-adaptor for the power plug. I cut the red wire before it went into the Y-adapter, ran the motherboard side of it to the middle of the switch. I then ran a wire from each open connection of the switch to it's designated HDD. So when I flip the switch, it only gives power to that HDD. This worked perfectly.
Like I said, I had problems with fitting it all and then realized I was doing all this for nothing. The XBOX hadn't been on Live yet, so I just put the 120gb in the XBOX. and was finished.
This is a pic with the switch installed.
This is the back of the switch.
When I decided not to use the dual HDD's I now had a hole in the front of the XBOX, so I put a sticker over it.
This was the whole thing.
I now have a X3cp, so if anyone wants/needs this faceplate. Let me know. It'll come with the switch, and the X3 switchy thingy.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on August 10, 2005, 02:57:00 AM
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Post by: CabezaDeGallo on August 09, 2005, 11:59:00 AM
QUOTE
x2 4981 bios ('customised')
it is spelled customized, with a z
Post by: 00g on August 09, 2005, 12:43:00 PM
I did this back in March.
I used:
1 Stock Seagate HDD
1 Maxtor 160gb HDD
I picked up a long IDE cable. Took apart a different cable, to get the connector off of it. Placed the connector at the desired position on the new cable, pressed it on. Now I had a cable with 4 connectors on it (total). (I can't seem to find the IDE cable I made. I would have posted a picture of it.....)
Then I got a Y-adaptor for the power plug. I cut the red wire before it went into the Y-adapter, ran the motherboard side of it to the middle of the switch. I then ran a wire from each open connection of the switch to it's designated HDD. So when I flip the switch, it only gives power to that HDD. This worked perfectly.
Like I said, I had problems with fitting it all and then realized I was doing all this for nothing. The XBOX hadn't been on Live yet, so I just put the 120gb in the XBOX. and was finished.
This is a pic with the switch installed.
This is the back of the switch.
When I decided not to use the dual HDD's I now had a hole in the front of the XBOX, so I put a sticker over it.
This was the whole thing.
I now have a X3cp, so if anyone wants/needs this faceplate. Let me know. It'll come with the switch, and the X3 switchy thingy.
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on August 10, 2005, 02:57:00 AM
QUOTE(CabezaDeGallo @ Aug 10 2005, 05:10 AM)
btw ferrari
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on August 11, 2005, 12:28:00 AM
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good to see someone who didnt need to cut/switch ide pins
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: madsci1016 on August 11, 2005, 06:13:00 AM
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i thought i would have too, just switched my maxtor for a new seagate, now the 411 method works fine for me.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on August 11, 2005, 06:15:00 AM
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Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on August 11, 2005, 12:28:00 AM
Post by: madsci1016 on August 11, 2005, 06:13:00 AM
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on August 11, 2005, 06:15:00 AM
QUOTE(madsci1016 @ Aug 11 2005, 11:24 PM)
i thought i would have too, just switched my maxtor for a new seagate, now the 411 method works fine for me.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: madsci1016 on August 11, 2005, 06:36:00 AM
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look at deacon's post on this thread, i think it answers your question.
http://forums.xbox-s...opic=429850&hl=
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on August 11, 2005, 06:40:00 AM
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Post by: madsci1016 on August 11, 2005, 06:36:00 AM
http://forums.xbox-s...opic=429850&hl=
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on August 11, 2005, 06:40:00 AM
QUOTE(madsci1016 @ Aug 11 2005, 11:47 PM)
look at deacon's post on this thread, i think it answers your question.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: madsci1016 on August 11, 2005, 09:16:00 AM
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on August 12, 2005, 12:53:00 AM
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Post by: madsci1016 on August 11, 2005, 09:16:00 AM
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on August 12, 2005, 12:53:00 AM
QUOTE(madsci1016 @ Aug 12 2005, 02:27 AM)
cant say. just that my seagate and max didn't get along, but now both my seagates are best friends.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: CabezaDeGallo on August 13, 2005, 07:43:00 AM
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ferrari hold on man. I just tried getting my modded wd 160gb along with a stock 8gb wd, and no dice. You can try it, but i wanted to warn u incase u were planning on buying an expensive wd drive hah.
also, two seagates work well with eachother? Thats badass, if thats the case I can replace my wd 160gb with a seagate 160gb or 200gb and it should work with my stock seagate 10gb right?
also, the laptop mod, i was planning on having the laptop as my stock hd, see i didnt know if there were any issues with xbox live banning and a laptop hd.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on August 13, 2005, 07:51:00 AM
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Post by: CabezaDeGallo on August 13, 2005, 07:43:00 AM
also, two seagates work well with eachother? Thats badass, if thats the case I can replace my wd 160gb with a seagate 160gb or 200gb and it should work with my stock seagate 10gb right?
also, the laptop mod, i was planning on having the laptop as my stock hd, see i didnt know if there were any issues with xbox live banning and a laptop hd.
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on August 13, 2005, 07:51:00 AM
QUOTE(CabezaDeGallo @ Aug 14 2005, 12:54 AM)
ferrari hold on man. I just tried getting my modded wd 160gb along with a stock 8gb wd, and no dice. You can try it, but i wanted to warn u incase u were planning on buying an expensive wd drive hah.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: madsci1016 on August 13, 2005, 02:26:00 PM
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Post by: madsci1016 on August 13, 2005, 02:26:00 PM
QUOTE(ferrari_rulz_02 @ Aug 13 2005, 04:02 PM)
well if they dont work right out of teh box together, then ill try switching some of the ide pins. if that doesnt work, then the new hard drive can reside in my computer (needs a media drive anyway), and ill look into stuffing two mobo's and hard drives into my proposed new case
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: madsci1016 on August 13, 2005, 02:29:00 PM
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also, two seagates work well with eachother? Thats badass, if thats the case I can replace my wd 160gb with a seagate 160gb or 200gb and it should work with my stock seagate 10gb right?
i replaced my max 250 with a seagte 160 and got no errors nor glitchs in game.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 21, 2005, 04:59:00 PM
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Im reviving this thread I need YOUR *POINTS TO YOU* help!
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=443465
I finally got my laptop hd, and I know it works I played halo2 on xbox live with it a couple times before migrating from my western digital to my maxtor. They get along fine, both boot up. But I have two major problems
First, the modded maxtor doesnt play all of my games, its locks up in the middle of games, doesnt even load them, or at the menu screen when you press start/a it reloads the menu screen. I know these games work cause I transfered them from my other box which plays them fine. Could it be the Maxtor Drive or a IDE issue?
Second, my laptop HD boots up fine and will let me open the xbox live tab in the xbox dash. What is wrong is whenever I put in Halo2 or any other games, it loads but then comes back to dash to give you that "You must have the DVD Remote and Dongle to play DVD Movies". So WTF is going on???
I'm thinking I either need a SPDT switch to toggle on/off the 23rd wire on each of the HDs cable, or change from my 160 maxtor to the 120gb seagate I have in my media xbox since I hear many good things about seagate and this mod.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on September 21, 2005, 05:32:00 PM
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Post by: madsci1016 on August 13, 2005, 02:29:00 PM
QUOTE(CabezaDeGallo @ Aug 13 2005, 03:54 PM)
also, two seagates work well with eachother? Thats badass, if thats the case I can replace my wd 160gb with a seagate 160gb or 200gb and it should work with my stock seagate 10gb right?
i replaced my max 250 with a seagte 160 and got no errors nor glitchs in game.
Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 21, 2005, 04:59:00 PM
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=443465
I finally got my laptop hd, and I know it works I played halo2 on xbox live with it a couple times before migrating from my western digital to my maxtor. They get along fine, both boot up. But I have two major problems
First, the modded maxtor doesnt play all of my games, its locks up in the middle of games, doesnt even load them, or at the menu screen when you press start/a it reloads the menu screen. I know these games work cause I transfered them from my other box which plays them fine. Could it be the Maxtor Drive or a IDE issue?
Second, my laptop HD boots up fine and will let me open the xbox live tab in the xbox dash. What is wrong is whenever I put in Halo2 or any other games, it loads but then comes back to dash to give you that "You must have the DVD Remote and Dongle to play DVD Movies". So WTF is going on???
I'm thinking I either need a SPDT switch to toggle on/off the 23rd wire on each of the HDs cable, or change from my 160 maxtor to the 120gb seagate I have in my media xbox since I hear many good things about seagate and this mod.
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on September 21, 2005, 05:32:00 PM
QUOTE(madsci1016 @ Aug 14 2005, 07:40 AM)
i replaced my max 250 with a seagte 160 and got no errors nor glitchs in game.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 21, 2005, 11:14:00 PM
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well i re transfered each game one by one and now they work, except nfsu, but that doesnt work on my other box either. So I guess they weren't working because of data corruption between transfers.
That still doesn't solve why my laptop HD won't play games.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: revengeismyfury on September 22, 2005, 12:13:00 AM
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on September 22, 2005, 02:41:00 AM
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Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 21, 2005, 11:14:00 PM
That still doesn't solve why my laptop HD won't play games.
Post by: revengeismyfury on September 22, 2005, 12:13:00 AM
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on September 22, 2005, 02:41:00 AM
QUOTE(BuddyLeeX @ Sep 22 2005, 04:25 PM)
That still doesn't solve why my laptop HD won't play games.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 22, 2005, 08:13:00 AM
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the laptop hd is sitting on the mobo, why would that kill it? I guess I need to get a piece of foam like the others suggested.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 22, 2005, 08:55:00 AM
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ok i just now took apart my xbox to see if the laptop hd/halo2 would work if i unplugged the IDE cable from my maxtor. Well it did work, so it is a IDE problem. The DVD drive doesn't like the maxtor on the cable so I'm thinking about getting a SPDT switch to toggle on/off the maxtors 23rd pin. I don't think there should be any problem not hooking up the laptop HDs 23rd pin, because the maxtor works fine with it connected
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: EverestX on September 22, 2005, 09:22:00 AM
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Yeah I know what you Mean Leex, I had flakey drives before mess around like that. Although I got mine working alright untill I had to donate a drive to my pc, But I jsut set it ablaze the other day so hopefully I can get back to my dual hd set up.
I used a differnt switch though then what you are using.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 22, 2005, 09:46:00 AM
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oh really? That sux. Well, see ferrari mentioned toggleing on/off the 1 and 13pin, then he said no the 1 and 29pin, and also people say just toggle on/off the 23 pin. I don't want to go hacking up my IDE drive until I know which one works right. But Im getting anxious.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: EverestX on September 22, 2005, 09:51:00 AM
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Yeah man I Hear you there, no sense in wasting a perfectly good Ide cable. Man I have also heard the 40th wire/red wire. There is all sorts of differnt stuff to try and what not. But you might also factor in the ide adapter you are using for your laptop HD. I haven't ever really played with one. Does your dual Hd mod work on other 3.5's?
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 22, 2005, 10:20:00 AM
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doesnt work with my western digital. I migrated from that western digital to the maxtor I have in here now so the other hd will work. They both boot up fine, its just my laptop hd doesnt want to load games. And when I unplug the ide cable to the maxtor hd the laptop hd plays the game fine.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 22, 2005, 11:53:00 AM
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I have
1. Modded Maxtor HD
2. Stock/XB Live! IBM Laptop HD
Both HDs are locked, and both work because I can play on xblive without the Maxtor connected.
Anyways, I just hacked into my IDE cable, and I found out that none of these solutions work. I tried wire 23, wire 1 and 13, and wire 29. Nothing happened, still got that DVD message. So I decided since its fuct and I have to get a new one, to try the very last wire, wire 40. Well it works now.
So Im thinking its wire 40, so I solder back up the other wires, and now it doesnt work. So It has to be a combination of two wires, if not I hope I can find a switch that has 5 blocks.
*EDIT*
NM I think I found it, wire 1 and wire 40. I'll let you guys know how it goes.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 22, 2005, 06:51:00 PM
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ok well i got everything set up. Tested it to see if it works, both drives worked fine. Then I put my top back on screwed it back together, and turned it on again and got the dvd movie error again. I went back 5 times to move wires around, apply electrical tape around the wires on the dpdt switch to make sure they dont touch ANYTHING but the prong they are suppose to be touching. And still same results. Im guessing I could possibly have a defective dpdt switch, although not having anything connected on the other pole could pose a problem possibly, i dont know much about dpdt switches.
guess Ill return it and try again.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: Heet on September 22, 2005, 09:41:00 PM
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Just get a 500GB Hitachi. I did and its faster than anything ive ever seen. Quiet too. I was going to get 2 250's in a box until I saw that I could get a 500GB for the same price as the 250's. What a drive!
Go to pricewatch.com, I think its still there.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 22, 2005, 09:58:00 PM
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Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 22, 2005, 08:13:00 AM
Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 22, 2005, 08:55:00 AM
Post by: EverestX on September 22, 2005, 09:22:00 AM
I used a differnt switch though then what you are using.
Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 22, 2005, 09:46:00 AM
Post by: EverestX on September 22, 2005, 09:51:00 AM
Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 22, 2005, 10:20:00 AM
Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 22, 2005, 11:53:00 AM
1. Modded Maxtor HD
2. Stock/XB Live! IBM Laptop HD
Both HDs are locked, and both work because I can play on xblive without the Maxtor connected.
Anyways, I just hacked into my IDE cable, and I found out that none of these solutions work. I tried wire 23, wire 1 and 13, and wire 29. Nothing happened, still got that DVD message. So I decided since its fuct and I have to get a new one, to try the very last wire, wire 40. Well it works now.
So Im thinking its wire 40, so I solder back up the other wires, and now it doesnt work. So It has to be a combination of two wires, if not I hope I can find a switch that has 5 blocks.
*EDIT*
NM I think I found it, wire 1 and wire 40. I'll let you guys know how it goes.
Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 22, 2005, 06:51:00 PM
guess Ill return it and try again.
Post by: Heet on September 22, 2005, 09:41:00 PM
Go to pricewatch.com, I think its still there.
Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 22, 2005, 09:58:00 PM
QUOTE(Heet @ Sep 23 2005, 05:52 AM)
Just get a 500GB Hitachi. I did and its faster than anything ive ever seen. Quiet too. I was going to get 2 250's in a box until I saw that I could get a 500GB for the same price as the 250's. What a drive!
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on September 23, 2005, 04:43:00 AM
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Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on September 23, 2005, 04:43:00 AM
QUOTE(EverestX @ Sep 23 2005, 03:02 AM)
Man I have also heard the 40th wire/red wire.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 23, 2005, 03:52:00 PM
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Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 23, 2005, 03:52:00 PM
QUOTE(ferrari_rulz_02 @ Sep 23 2005, 12:54 PM)
dude, teh red wire is pin 1, not 40
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on September 23, 2005, 05:43:00 PM
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Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on September 23, 2005, 05:43:00 PM
QUOTE(BuddyLeeX @ Sep 24 2005, 09:03 AM)
And what do u mean am I trying one drive on at a time?
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 25, 2005, 10:46:00 AM
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ok so i got a 200gb seagate since i heard those work without the need to switch on/off IDE pins. Well I plugged it in, and voila it worked fine! So I put everything together and the top back on, then continued to turn back on my xbox and i still got the dvd error when i tried to play halo. I swear the xbox gods hate me.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on September 25, 2005, 08:02:00 PM
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Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 25, 2005, 10:46:00 AM
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on September 25, 2005, 08:02:00 PM
QUOTE(BuddyLeeX @ Sep 26 2005, 03:57 AM)
So I put everything together and the top back on, then continued to turn back on my xbox and i still got the dvd error when i tried to play halo.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 25, 2005, 08:33:00 PM
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i dont understand how it is though.
I dont have the switch anymore right. All I have are my IDE cables, so whenever I put my top back on, it should still worked. I don't understand, but I'll figure somethin out.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on September 25, 2005, 09:58:00 PM
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Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 25, 2005, 08:33:00 PM
I dont have the switch anymore right. All I have are my IDE cables, so whenever I put my top back on, it should still worked. I don't understand, but I'll figure somethin out.
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on September 25, 2005, 09:58:00 PM
QUOTE(BuddyLeeX @ Sep 26 2005, 01:44 PM)
All I have are my IDE cables, so whenever I put my top back on, it should still worked
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 30, 2005, 04:39:00 PM
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i talked to that guy that did the 2 HD mod in his box that looks real nice, and he said to use ATA100 or above, it has been said this mod doesn't work/work well with ATA66/ATA33. The Cable I have is ATA100 running to the ATA66 M-F-M cable, so that might be an issue.
I was also thinking, could there possibly be anything I can do to tweak the Samsung Drive I have? To make it accept the DVD even though it doesnt like the other 2 drives on the cable?
If not I have a couple of options. The way I did my IDE switch is I only connected the cable going to the Seagate, but it looks like I might need to hack into my main ATA100 Cable, put that on the IN prongs on the DPDT and then the ATA66 wires to their respective prongs on the DPDT Switch, or test out the ATA100 compatability issue and purchase a 4 Device cable from Llamma.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on September 30, 2005, 06:25:00 PM
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Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 30, 2005, 04:39:00 PM
I was also thinking, could there possibly be anything I can do to tweak the Samsung Drive I have? To make it accept the DVD even though it doesnt like the other 2 drives on the cable?
If not I have a couple of options. The way I did my IDE switch is I only connected the cable going to the Seagate, but it looks like I might need to hack into my main ATA100 Cable, put that on the IN prongs on the DPDT and then the ATA66 wires to their respective prongs on the DPDT Switch, or test out the ATA100 compatability issue and purchase a 4 Device cable from Llamma.
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on September 30, 2005, 06:25:00 PM
QUOTE(BuddyLeeX @ Oct 1 2005, 09:50 AM)
I was also thinking, could there possibly be anything I can do to tweak the Samsung Drive I have? To make it accept the DVD even though it doesnt like the other 2 drives on the cable?
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 30, 2005, 08:09:00 PM
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ok i followed that tut you sent to me ferarri, and i tried it with both my ATA133/ATA66 cable, and also my stock xbox IDE Cable and my M-F-M ATA66 cable.
With the ATA133 one it didnt do anything it just hung on the m$ logo, and I pinned out the wire 1 and 57 in accordance with the tutorial. Then wire 1 and 29 for the other cable.
I did them both with the ATA66 now switching the 1st and 29th wire and still get the DVD error. Maybe it just isnt compatible with my laptop HD?
I'm going to try and get a 4 or 5 device IDE cable from Llamma now and give that a shot, and for the mean time try other combinations of wires I guess.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 30, 2005, 09:05:00 PM
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ok i think the guy is right, i tried most all combinations, and nothing happened still. Im going to try a ATA100 cable.
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: xman954 on September 30, 2005, 09:12:00 PM
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Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 30, 2005, 09:31:00 PM
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Thanks I'll toy with this before I get my ATA100 Cable. Did You have to make a switch for your setup?
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Title: 2 Hard Drives Mod
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on October 01, 2005, 12:29:00 AM
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Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 30, 2005, 08:09:00 PM
With the ATA133 one it didnt do anything it just hung on the m$ logo, and I pinned out the wire 1 and 57 in accordance with the tutorial. Then wire 1 and 29 for the other cable.
I did them both with the ATA66 now switching the 1st and 29th wire and still get the DVD error. Maybe it just isnt compatible with my laptop HD?
I'm going to try and get a 4 or 5 device IDE cable from Llamma now and give that a shot, and for the mean time try other combinations of wires I guess.
Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 30, 2005, 09:05:00 PM
Post by: xman954 on September 30, 2005, 09:12:00 PM
CODE
Pin Name Dir Description
1 /RESET Reset
2 GND Ground
3 DD7 Data 7
4 DD8 Data 8
5 DD6 Data 6
6 DD9 Data 9
7 DD5 Data 5
8 DD10 Data 10
9 DD4 Data 4
10 DD11 Data 11
11 DD3 Data 3
12 DD12 Data 12
13 DD2 Data 2
14 DD13 Data 13
15 DD1 Data 1
16 DD14 Data 14
17 DD0 Data 0
18 DD15 Data 15
19 GND Ground
20 KEY - Key
21 n/c - Not connected
22 GND Ground
23 /IOW Write Strobe
24 GND Ground
25 /IOR Read Strobe
26 GND Ground
27 IO_CH_RDY
28 ALE Address Latch Enable
29 n/c - Not connected
30 GND Ground
31 IRQR Interrupt Request
32 /IOCS16 ? IO ChipSelect 16
33 DA1 Address 1
34 n/c - Not connected
35 DA0 Address 0
36 DA2 Address 2
37 /IDE_CS0 (1F0-1F7)
38 /IDE_CS1 (3F6-3F7)
39 /ACTIVE Led driver
40 GND Ground
1 /RESET Reset
2 GND Ground
3 DD7 Data 7
4 DD8 Data 8
5 DD6 Data 6
6 DD9 Data 9
7 DD5 Data 5
8 DD10 Data 10
9 DD4 Data 4
10 DD11 Data 11
11 DD3 Data 3
12 DD12 Data 12
13 DD2 Data 2
14 DD13 Data 13
15 DD1 Data 1
16 DD14 Data 14
17 DD0 Data 0
18 DD15 Data 15
19 GND Ground
20 KEY - Key
21 n/c - Not connected
22 GND Ground
23 /IOW Write Strobe
24 GND Ground
25 /IOR Read Strobe
26 GND Ground
27 IO_CH_RDY
28 ALE Address Latch Enable
29 n/c - Not connected
30 GND Ground
31 IRQR Interrupt Request
32 /IOCS16 ? IO ChipSelect 16
33 DA1 Address 1
34 n/c - Not connected
35 DA0 Address 0
36 DA2 Address 2
37 /IDE_CS0 (1F0-1F7)
38 /IDE_CS1 (3F6-3F7)
39 /ACTIVE Led driver
40 GND Ground
Post by: BuddyLeeX on September 30, 2005, 09:31:00 PM
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on October 01, 2005, 12:29:00 AM
QUOTE(BuddyLeeX @ Oct 1 2005, 02:42 PM)
Did You have to make a switch for your setup?