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Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: zoomer777 on November 19, 2004, 11:00:00 PM
Since everyone out there is spitting out theories on the reasons why, and very few seem to know what they are doing...it's crazy to assume anyone is "right"

Stop the following statements:

"I think M$ is scanning LPC points via software to find modchips..."

or

"I think the 'marriage' theory is the best idea for why we are banned!"

or

"(insert random unconfirmed theory here)"

We seem to all be approaching this in the least organized way possible.  Kind of like blugeoning the scientific method until you get results.  If enough people are beating it, then maybe we will get answers!

Anyways, enough ranting.  I just wanted to post my procedure for getting myself back online WITHOUT restoring a stock HD, or setting up dual hard drives, etc.

My goals:

Maintain dual functionality of my xbox - hard-switched, able to work with modded, or in retail mode to play on live.  

Keep the original upgraded hard drive in place...no purchase of a new hard drive, no pulling out the old clunky 8 gigger to put back in place!

I am sure there are other goals here, but they all kind of revolve around maintaining the natural order of things I've established on my box.

OK, so I have been scrounging to find legitimate answers to this, and due to hard earned faith of the xbox-scene folks, went with AngerWounds work combined with some other advice.  This involves a new HDD Key, and a clean C: and E: partition.

My steps to success so far:

1)  Cleaned up C: - using Slayer's 2.6 installer disc to restore it "factory" condition
2)  Cleaned up E: - removing all extraneous files to TDATA, UDATA, and CACHE (the contents of CACHE were deleted)
3)  Using the retail mode, I went into the memory management and removed saves from programs that aren't retail (for example, XBMC saves program settings in here!).  I also deleted my XBLive account (Gamer Tag).
4)  Installed EVOX to F: using Slayer's magical installer
5)  Flashed my mod bios to X4981.06 that checks F: first in the boot order!

****The above is essentially a "shadow" install job, which I did not previously have.  EVOX used to be on my C: partition, and E: had all sorts of extraneous non-retail apps with data in it!  Many of you may already have done "shadow" install jobs - so are one step ahead of me here. *****

6)  Once in dual boot mode with a shadow install job, I opened ConfigMagic, and unlocked the HD.  Using a new EEPROM, purchased from a seller, I reprogrammed my HD with the new info.  I made sure to note the HDD Key and Online Key before and after the update, to ensure a completely new EEPROM programmed both these fields!  Once satisfied, I locked the HD, and exited ConfigMagic.
7)  I boot into retail mode, and created a new XBLive account using the 2-month trial.  I figured that if my box was banned, I wouldn't even connect to be able to set up a new account!!
8)  Once a new account was set up, I fired up Halo, and PRESTO, everything was working as should be.  I signed on and off a few times, and so far, so good!

I'll be checking over the next few days and posting to let anyone know if I get "re-banned" or if I am still able to play online.

My box is an Xbox Ver 1.0 (ancient) with an X2-Lite 2.1 Mod chip in it!  I have a 100GB upgraded hard drive that has been faithfully in place for practically 2 years!

Before all this, I was NOT receiving a MODIFIED XBOX error; I just simply got a message that said "Can Not Find Xbox Live"...makes it sound like it was a connection issue (which it wasn't!).  Now everything is sailing smoothly.
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: Angerwound on November 19, 2004, 11:04:00 PM
I'm glad to see everything worked out for you. We can only wait and see if you do get banned again. Based on the procedure you detailed I find it highly unlikely however.

Anyhow, keep me updated.
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: zoomer777 on November 19, 2004, 11:06:00 PM
Couple of extra things here:

One, I wanted a new account with XB Live because I feared that, if they flagged my last account, they would subject it to additional scrutiny, therefore, they may scan my C: and E: drives to check for evidence of modification.  Since I have cleaned these partitions up, it isn't a problem JUST YET.  But since most mod/homebrew apps store info in the E: parition, it's only a matter of time.  My old account was expiring in the next few days anyways, so I'm fortunate on that one (it's also linked to an expired credit card)!

Second, mod-software developers, this one's for you...especially the good folks at XBMC.  Please write your code to save info on the F: partition!  Writing the stuff on E: is no longer "safe".  I know that XBMC writes it's settings.xml file here, which is necessary for the software to run.  I really am unaware of a work-around at this point.  If anyone knows how, please share.

Other than that, I will just need to excercise discipline in making sure that E: stays clean (manual deletions).

Oh yeah, and a final note, thanks AngerWound for all your work and testing to help us figure this out.  Keep it up!

This post has been edited by zoomer777: Nov 20 2004, 07:08 AM
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: tylercal on November 19, 2004, 11:14:00 PM
Hey, heres an idea to test the theory. Get a banned xbox, clean out the hard drive, and flash a completely new eeprom onto it. Try to connect. If angerwound is right it should connect. Now change the HD key only back to that of the OLD banned eeprom. It should give a banned error message. This would prove the theory beyond doubt.
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: Angerwound on November 19, 2004, 11:11:00 PM
I performed that exact procedure, that is what brought me to my conclusion about the HDD Key. tongue.gif
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: zoomer777 on November 19, 2004, 11:34:00 PM
I could easily manually punch in the HDD Key from my previous EEPROM using ConfigMagic, and see if the result is a "Can Not Find Xbox Live" or a "modified xbox error".  I am just too much of a wimp right now to try that.   :o  
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: prplehz on November 19, 2004, 11:57:00 PM
Is there any easy way to read the contents of eeprom with a program besides config magic, preferably pc app.?
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: Angerwound on November 20, 2004, 12:36:00 AM
LiveInfo for the pc will open or build eeproms for you.
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: -Gadget- on November 20, 2004, 05:41:00 AM
FFS ....
do people not READ !!

we have confirmed this working like a zillion times ..
the KEY factor in WHY u are still not banned is because

7) I boot into retail mode, and created a new XBLive account using the 2-month trial. I figured that if my box was banned, I wouldn't even connect to be able to set up a new account!!

so to them u are a new cusomer, and thus u have not been previously banned
and thus, u do not go any 'extra' checks that the flagged GT's get
THIS is why you are not getting banned ...
all you really had to do was the eeprom backup, and a new GT ..
(as this changes everything they check, when considering a first ban)

this would of been a totally diferent story if ya didnt get a new GT
althou what ya could do... once ya pleased with ya coonfig IS NOT getting banned..
delete that GT, and put ya Old banned GT back on and try
now THAT would be a experiment :) and worth posting !

And the reason u initially got kicked/banned was because of ya upgraded HDD after u initially signed up for live. (the marriage theory)


Mick ...
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: -Gadget- on November 20, 2004, 05:36:00 AM
QUOTE (zoomer777 @ Nov 20 2004, 08:30 AM)
I could easily manually punch in the HDD Key from my previous EEPROM using ConfigMagic, and see if the result is a "Can Not Find Xbox Live" or a "modified xbox error".  I am just too much of a wimp right now to try that.   ohmy.gif

yes that would get ya banned 100%
because then ya would be breaking the marriage theory rule

if ya wanna do a experiment to help the scene do the one i mentioned above smile.gif

Mick ..
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: zoomer777 on November 20, 2004, 10:02:00 AM
I'll admit, "my" method doesn't narrow down the one specific item of banning.  A more "scientific" approach would be to change one item at a time to see which one exacts a change.  I figure that it sounds like Angerwound already did this for the rest of us by experimenting with the HDDKey.  

I'm not whole-heartedly convinced either that M$ isn't scanning C: and E: of every XBLive user occasionally to see if they have non-retail stuff on there, thus why cleaned those up.

Third, if the above is true, then opening a new GT/XBLive Account is pointless, but if it isn't, and they only scan "flagged" xbox's, then I made myself "double-safe".

As soon as apps that save all their data to the E: drive find a new place to put it (F: please!), then I will definitely test out using my old GT - but I doubt this will happen before that account expires.

I may just grab my balls and do it for the rest of you guys anyways smile.gif

I really think my issue is that my HDDKey was banned - I never got the "modified xbox error" message, just a connection issue - "could not find xbox live"...this was on the troubleshooting page, which had nothing to do with my xb live account!  Really makes me believe the HDDKey was being banned from access.

Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: dalime on November 20, 2004, 11:27:00 AM
QUOTE
6) Once in dual boot mode with a shadow install job, I opened ConfigMagic, and unlocked the HD. Using a new EEPROM, purchased from a seller, I reprogrammed my HD with the new info. I made sure to note the HDD Key and Online Key before and after the update, to ensure a completely new EEPROM programmed both these fields! Once satisfied, I locked the HD, and exited ConfigMagic.

Hey Zoomer, can you clarify something for us?  When you say that you "reprogrammed the HDD w/ the new info" do you mean that you put in a whole new EEPROM entirely or did you just replace the HHD KEY of your banned EEPROM?

Does anybody know when the online key is generated?  Out of the factory or when you establish an account with Live?
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: zoomer777 on November 20, 2004, 12:33:00 PM
I actually programmed an entire new EEPROM to my drive.  I made a printout of the new BIN file's EEPROM info (CFG file) to ensure that reprogramming the EEPROM would also change the HDDKey.  I was under the impression that re-programming the EEPROM would not change the key!  Initially I thought after I reprogrammed, I would have to manually enter in the new "virgin" key by hand, but I didn't have to do this.

This post has been edited by zoomer777: Nov 20 2004, 08:34 PM
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: zoomer777 on November 21, 2004, 12:06:00 AM
Just had a good night of playing H2...since I got "unbanned" last night, it makes for over 24 hours.  Also, I started playing H2 after I used XBMC to watch a movie.  SO far, it's good news.  I have signed in and out several times, and also gone from mod to retail mode via flipswitch several times over.  All succesful.  I hope and pray this lasts for a long while!

Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: ThaG on December 03, 2004, 02:01:00 AM
Hello AngerWound, Zoomer,

I'm new to posting to the forum, but I've been reading it for a few weeks now.

I want to test this theory (but I will need a new eeprom first, so if you have one 1.0-1.5 jester.gif ).

I have one question.:
Do ya think they just flag the gamertags, or maybe the creditcard numbers also?

I ask this because I want to create a new GT (with my 2 months subscr), but with the same CC ID. (still have about a half year left on my old Live account - well, guess this is down the drain tongue.gif).

One more thing, maybe people should be warned about this:
I think I was banned doing the following:
- Use slayer 2.6 to create a retail setup (have my 8gb hd)
- Use the configmagic on the CDRW, backup my EEPROM
- After configmagic is closed, it says "press x to return to dashboard"
- Did this, but no EVOX dash on my HD, so it did NOT run my dashboard on the CDRW, but it run the MSdash (and automatic signin was on)!
--> So I run the MSdash - Xbox LIve with my chip on  mad.gif
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: irajames1176 on December 03, 2004, 04:49:00 AM
Moving your saves from E: to F:

http://forums.xbox-s...0
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: irajames1176 on December 03, 2004, 04:55:00 AM
also here's a link to a Cache cleaner script, for those of you who use MXM it deletes all the cache in E:\Cache, and formats X: Y: and Z:

http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=172029
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: Aaries on December 03, 2004, 12:26:00 PM
QUOTE
I went into the memory management and removed saves from programs that aren't retail


Does that include saves from backed-up copies of games?  Or just from programs like XBMC, etc, as you mentioned?
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: mc_365 on December 03, 2004, 01:25:00 PM
QUOTE (smwein @ Dec 3 2004, 08:45 PM)
I have been trying to get my box back online for a while now.  I have tried a new eeprom and new harddrive.  None which have worked.  I keep getting can't connect to live and then all info about my mtu size and isp stuff.  I know my router is setup correctly because I was on live before.  Some one please help.

Unlock your drive again.
Clean it.
Re-configure your drive sectors.
Re install MS files, make sure they are all there.
Make sure your eeprom is the correct version and region, on your PC with live info.
Flash your clean eeprom again.
Load xbox eeprom.
Lock your drive with evox.
Delete Lock/unlock logs
Delete no Configmagic/evox Gamesaves.
Ftp backup folder to your pc if you created one.
Make sure you only have ms data on your C: and E: drives.
Boot MS dash.
Try Live account setup.
If Error try changing your MAC in advanced network settings to blank first, if no go put in the mac addr of you eeprom.
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: poiygon on December 03, 2004, 02:30:00 PM
Have you tried signing on with your old gamertag?
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: feet14 on December 13, 2004, 02:24:00 PM
pmpnic - did it say DNS resolved before saying cannot find XBL?
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: pmpnic on December 13, 2004, 04:08:00 PM
feet - Yes, it did say that the DNS was resolved.  

After all of the reading that I have done on the forums the last couple days, and based on my XYZ codes, I am about 95% that it is a ban, but there is nothing on my account.  According to the M$ tech support guy that I literally just hung up with, I was just approved for my full refund and my credit card is credited.  So I am gonna try to get a trial subscription and a new gt, new eeprom, wipe my c: and e: drives, and then try to get online again before I mess with fixing a beat ass xbox.

Thanks for your help everyone and I will be posting again with more details if all of this is successful. peace.
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: DexX on December 13, 2004, 05:54:00 PM
Ok I've also had the xbox live not found problem and I've been trying to decide whether to get a new hardrive etc or what, but apparently in the xyz thread it says my problem is a hardware error that some specs dont match or something but I was using a completly new eeprom so I'm guesing thats why some specs don't match. Anyways my question is if I followed mc_365's steps should I be good to go back on live? But in his steps it says not to have anything but ms files in  c and e can I still launch evox from like F?
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: mc_365 on December 13, 2004, 07:42:00 PM
I say don't have anything except  ms files cuase you stand the best chance of getting back on live if you do everything right and have a true virgin/unbanned eeprom.

Other than that if you know exactly why you were banned then just fix that and try.

I didn't know why I got banned.  So I got rid of everything.
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: mc_365 on December 13, 2004, 08:53:00 PM
Re-do your drive with slayers or some other drive installer or get the files from somewhere.  If the eeprom is good than it is your drive.  Did you check in live info to make sure the eeprom is the right version for your xbox.
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: DexX on December 13, 2004, 09:18:00 PM
Live info? No where can I get it?
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: fruitbat04 on December 14, 2004, 02:13:00 AM
I'm pretty sure the new eeprom you have isn't the same version as your xbox. Thats what I got when trying 1.1 eeproms in a 1.0 xbox. When I got a 1.0 eeprom it worked fine.
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: tasmanian_guy on December 14, 2004, 03:33:00 AM
I have an Xbox version 1.4.

It has an X2 chip in it.  
It has a disable switch.  
The hard drive is a WD 7200rpm 160 gig with evox files etc on C: but only standard stuff on E:.  
The hard drive is always locked.

I signed up for Xbox Live (2 month trial), got connected with the disable switch in the off position.  Been playing Halo 2 and Rainbow Six for numerous hours (hell I even had an 18 hour stint on Halo 2) and have not been banned.

This rules out the scanning of hard drive theory or detecting hard drives theory as well.
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: feet14 on December 14, 2004, 05:12:00 AM
QUOTE (tasmanian_guy @ Dec 14 2004, 11:29 AM)
I have an Xbox version 1.4.

It has an X2 chip in it.  
It has a disable switch.  
The hard drive is a WD 7200rpm 160 gig with evox files etc on C: but only standard stuff on E:.  
The hard drive is always locked.

I signed up for Xbox Live (2 month trial), got connected with the disable switch in the off position.  Been playing Halo 2 and Rainbow Six for numerous hours (hell I even had an 18 hour stint on Halo 2) and have not been banned.

This rules out the scanning of hard drive theory or detecting hard drives theory as well.

If you swapped your HD before going on live then it does not rule out all HD detection methods - the marriage theory is still a possibility. Also, bans are sometimes enforced after several months, so we cannot be certain that you won't be banned with this setup.
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: slyt on December 14, 2004, 05:58:00 AM
Damn, beat me to it...

this is pretty much what I did also.

I worked with Gadget to help me (thanks again dude  biggrin.gif ) and although you mention ignore the "theories", actually the process you did (which was what I did) covers nearly all of them.

- by formatting you prevent the "cookie" data (as can be seen by disk.bin)
- by installing a new EEPROM, your new EEPROM is married to your Hard Drive, as the new EEPROM hasnt been seen before, it becomes locked to your existing hard drive (assuming MS store all the data), thus your xbox is believed to be new and clean, (those who upgraded their HDDs without reinstalling an EEPROM have an EEPROM that doesnt match M$ records)
- by using a new gamer tag you prevent extended hard disk scanning thought to be linked to a "flagged gamer tag"

These are actually the 3 biggest theories out there and whether any or all of them are true, this method addresses all at once, in a straight forward mannor.

((- infact by having a hard switched Chip, you even fall outside a lot of supporters of the LPC scanning theory (something about them being able to activate your chip remotley - this cannot be done with a hard switch)))


My Xbox has been online again for a week now.

I must say that this process is fairly straight forward and covers most bases. Instead of slayers, I adapted my Evox.ini to format the HDD, and used a configmagic disk with the eeprom file (in data I think), replaced with the clean one I bought.

Other than that I think the methods are the same.

I might also add that before I did any of the above, I solved the problem that got me banned in the first place. In my case this was going on live with a chip on. (after flashing chip XB rebooted straight onto my friends list Do'h!)

I stoped this ever happening again by flashing a live blocking bios onto my chip. Now I cannot go on live with the chip on.

I would highly recomend others do the same if they are using a chip as this seems to be one of the main reasons people get banned. either way, if you want to stop yourself getting banned again, try and ensure you cannot make the same mistake again, whether accidental or not.

(For me I used the 256 Metoo M8+ bios) - slightly customised for personal preferance using the tool that came in the same folder from "the usual places".


Good work zoomer777 !
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: DexX on December 14, 2004, 07:05:00 AM
Oh well I bought my eeprom from zodiiak so I thought it would work and all I doubt Ill be able to exchange though, but say I got a new one what should I do then? Format my drive and all and then install a new one?

This post has been edited by DexX: Dec 14 2004, 03:16 PM
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: slyt on December 15, 2004, 06:17:00 AM
Pretty much.

Do you know why you got banned ?

- did you already do one EEPROM change ?

Did it work for a day or so ?

Alex
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: DexX on December 15, 2004, 05:22:00 PM
Well I had changed my eeprom before and that eeprom was fine, I hadn't played on xbox live for a while though. Then I try to go on and get live not found ended up it was a ban I guess that what they(people here at the scene) told me. So then I bought a new one and still got the same error but this error is cause some type of hardware mitchmatch or something. I used live info and it say the eeprom was v 1.1 so I guess thats wrong since my xbox is 1.4. I didn't see the option to save the eeprom for a 1.4 though.
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: feet14 on December 16, 2004, 09:39:00 AM
A 1.1 EEPROM will work on a v1.1,1.2,1.3,1.4,1.5.  
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: Mr.James on December 16, 2004, 09:52:00 AM
QUOTE (feet14 @ Dec 16 2004, 06:35 PM)
A 1.1 EEPROM will work on a v1.1,1.2,1.3,1.4,1.5.

I take it only 1.6 eeproms will work on 1.6 boards. Will a 1.6 eeprom work on a 1.6b and vice versa?
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: feet14 on December 16, 2004, 10:12:00 AM
You're correct. 1.6a/b are interchangeable. I'm not sure why 1.6's are different as they still contain the serial, MAC etc.
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: phoenixuk on December 16, 2004, 10:45:00 AM
QUOTE (-Gadget- @ Nov 20 2004, 02:37 PM)

this would of been a totally diferent story if ya didnt get a new GT
althou what ya could do... once ya pleased with ya coonfig IS NOT getting banned..
delete that GT, and put ya Old banned GT back on and try
now THAT would be a experiment :) and worth posting !
...

Mick ...

Your wish is my command ....

I got banned, so i signed up with new eeprom, and new gamertag.

Worked fine for ages, and as my original GT was a 12month subscription, wanted to return to it when my other trial ran out.

Did so, and restored my old GT.  6 hours later, BANNED.

ARGHHH !!!

How can i change the SERIAL on the HDD ... anyone ??

Dave.
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: pmpnic on December 16, 2004, 06:07:00 PM
Wanted to update you guys from my previous post, like two pages ago or so:

-I have a 1.6 xbox with a 160gb hdd that recently got the "XBL NOT FOUND" error.

First I got a new eeprom.  Deleted my old xbox live account off my hdd.  Updated to the new eeprom using ConfigMagic Final.  Got a 2 month free subscription to live and started up a new gt.  I am now back on XBL after getting the "XBL NOT FOUND" error with my new eeprom and new gt.  I've only been online for about the last 30 mins, but I have done nothing to my hdd except put configmagic on the F: for the eeprom update, and I deleted my old XBL account off the hdd.  I will update you all tomorrow and let you know if I am banned again, I got some extra eeproms for this purpose.  I am trying to remove as many variables as possible by not messing with the hdd at all.  I also used the same cc # and contact information as my previous banned GT.

Also on a side note, after flashing the eeprom I did not have a non-expired 2 month trial card, the one that I did have was supposed to end 9/30/04.  On a whim I decided to try the code on that card for my new gt and it seems to have worked fine.  This leads me to believe that these trial cards will work even if they are supposed to be expired!  Somebody else should also try this just to see what happens. . .
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: A.Z.BEST on December 16, 2004, 06:48:00 PM
Just wanted to say that I've been playing on Live for 3 months now. I have 200GB hdd (changed before first connection to XBL) and have no problems- never went on XBL with chip on.
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: phoenixuk on December 16, 2004, 09:04:00 PM
PMPNIC -

Please DO let us know how you get on. I'm only pissed because my old XBL subscription was a 12 month voucher i had purchased, and if i want to use that again, i'm going to have to only use it on a NON modded xbox.

I believe that as you have used a new GT, you'll be fine, but would love to know for sure, from your experiments !

Please keep us updated !!

Regards,

Dave. :)
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: pmpnic on December 16, 2004, 11:54:00 PM
just got back on, so its been about 6 hours so far and still not banned.  To further clarify, in case this could matter:

The game that I've been testing with is ESPN NFL 25k.

The XBL account that I deleted from my system was previously banned.  Back in late september I found out that my roommate got on with the chip on not knowing what he was doing and it was banned.  I got new eeprom and did nothing else and got back on, however I only played for a couple hours.  I did not try to get back on again until 12/10, which is when I got the "XBL Not Found" error.  

I bought the xbox as a pre-mod with the 160gb hdd already installed, so it was never online until I went on with the account that I just deleted.  

I will update again tomorrow with the status.  Feel free to post here or PM me if you have any questions. peace.
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: [GS]EqUaTe on December 17, 2004, 05:34:00 AM
Phoenix, you might be interested in this thread:
http://forums.xbox-s...pic=310240&st=0
May clear a few things up for you, especially the last couple of posts..

You CAN have a modded box, but it needs to have a stock 8/10 gig hdd. If it's a 10, you can have an F. I currently have this setup, it's working fine, and has been for well over a week...

I still want to get back to my 200gig though.. We need to find out how this is possible WITHOUT getting a new GT...
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: feet14 on December 17, 2004, 05:45:00 AM
QUOTE (A.Z.BEST® @ Dec 17 2004, 02:44 AM)
Just wanted to say that I've been playing on Live for 3 months now. I have 200GB hdd (changed before first connection to XBL) and have no problems- never went on XBL with chip on.

Are your C/E partitions clean?
Title: Using Angerwounds "theory" - I Am Back On Live
Post by: [GS]EqUaTe on December 17, 2004, 05:51:00 AM
QUOTE (feet14 @ Dec 17 2004, 01:48 PM)
Are your C/E partitions clean?

Doesn't matter. It's been established with near certainty that they are NOT scanning general stuff on C / E.
They check for a modified xboxdash.xbe, and a couple of other files.
They aren't checking for any scene files.. Like evox or anything, nor are they checking for saves... (If they were, then EVERYONE would be banned)

However, once a GT is flagged, they are somehow detecting the larger HDD sad.gif
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Post by: xbox_Steve on December 17, 2004, 03:08:00 PM
QUOTE ([GS]EqUaTe @ Dec 17 2004, 02:54 PM)
They check for a modified xboxdash.xbe, and a couple of other files.

what do u mean by that? once a hard drive is locked isn't the xboxdash.xbe regular and normal like before?
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Post by: Gumba on December 17, 2004, 06:18:00 PM
QUOTE (xbox_Steve @ Dec 18 2004, 12:11 AM)
what do u mean by that? once a hard drive is locked isn't the xboxdash.xbe regular and normal like before?

uh.... no

The xboxdash.xbe is only regular and normal if you haven't modified it (or replaced it) or if you have and then restored it back to being a regular and normal one.
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Post by: xbox_Steve on December 17, 2004, 06:45:00 PM
QUOTE (Gumba @ Dec 18 2004, 03:21 AM)
uh.... no

uh... ok
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Post by: [GS]EqUaTe on December 18, 2004, 06:23:00 AM
Well, make sure that you use an empty or non-existant disk.bin when you recreate the partitions.
Before you set up the new GT, use the mod mode to take a backup of your eeprom and such, then have a look in disk.bin with a hex editor, and make sure xbox.com does NOT appear in it anywhere.

Assuming all of that goes fine, you should be able to use it w/o getting banned, with a large hd.
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Post by: Aaries on December 18, 2004, 07:59:00 PM
Ok, dumb question time.  Where is the disk.bin file located so I can view it?
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Post by: xbox_Steve on December 18, 2004, 08:00:00 PM
QUOTE ([GS)
EqUaTe,Dec 18 2004, 03:26 PM]Well, make sure that you use an empty or non-existant disk.bin when you recreate the partitions.
Before you set up the new GT, use the mod mode to take a backup of your eeprom and such, then have a look in disk.bin with a hex editor, and make sure xbox.com does NOT appear in it anywhere.

Assuming all of that goes fine, you should be able to use it w/o getting banned, with a large hd.

could u explain that a little more? i'm not sure i understand how to do that
thanks
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Post by: Angerwound on December 18, 2004, 08:23:00 PM
QUOTE ([GS]EqUaTe @ Dec 18 2004, 09:26 AM)
Well, make sure that you use an empty or non-existant disk.bin when you recreate the partitions.
Before you set up the new GT, use the mod mode to take a backup of your eeprom and such, then have a look in disk.bin with a hex editor, and make sure xbox.com does NOT appear in it anywhere.

Assuming all of that goes fine, you should be able to use it w/o getting banned, with a large hd.

This is a bunch of bullshit. I have looked into this and makes no sense at all. How are you going to tell me that this 'file' is storing info about your live accounts. I have used the same xbox for live since day 1. This box has been banned more times than you can imagine, around 50 times to date. Each and everytime was for something dumb on my part, nothing 'mysterious'. It has had it's live accounts terminated twice. Now, everytime I needed to get back onto live. All I did was change the eeprom and create a new gamertag. There were occasions that I did clean the hard drive of 'other files'. But this was back when I believed them to be scanning the contents of the drive. I have slowly been keeping shit on my hard drive and still have not been encountered with a ban yet. Therefore, if this theory was correct this disk.bin would have kept me from staying unbanned. The only 'theories' I see as possible remaining true is the check of 'xboxdash.xbe' and the marriage of an eeprom and harddrive when you create an xbox live account ( could explain why I need to create a new gamertag to stay unbanned since the 'security updates' ).

Anyways, just my two cents.  beerchug.gif
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Post by: xbox_Steve on December 18, 2004, 09:31:00 PM
well what i did was just get a eeprom, changed it with config magic and got a new code and GT
and am hoping no ban....
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Post by: xbox_Steve on December 19, 2004, 10:36:00 AM
i got banned again, so it must check something in my harddrive, so i'm goann try again with my old harddrve and clean it out and everything. I hope that works
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Post by: xbox_Steve on December 21, 2004, 09:47:00 AM
QUOTE(    @ Dec 20 2004, 01:24 AM)
Ok, heres my question. If I bought a new hardrive and a virgin eeprom(never touched live) and use my old gamertag will I be good to go? Now see the thing is my current xbox drive/gamertag havnt been banned Im pretty sure I just keep on getting a live not found error. So would that work or would I need a new gamertag too?
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Post by: Angerwound on December 21, 2004, 10:11:00 AM
QUOTE(zoomer777 @ Nov 20 2004, 12:56 AM)
Since everyone out there is spitting out theories on the reasons why, and very few seem to know what they are doing...it's crazy to assume anyone is "right"
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Post by: [GS]EqUaTe on January 01, 2005, 10:35:00 PM
That will be fine. I'm using that setup myself now, because I didn't want to lose my GT.

Angerwound: disk.bin is not a file, and my feeling as to why you didn't get rebanned quickly in those cases is due to ONLY changing the hdd key and creating a new gamertag. This could, of course, be wrong.
Disk.bin is formed of data stored on the hdd, effectively the partition table, or part of it. Possibly the boot sector (though I doubt that myself). It is created when you use the backup function in EvoX. If you open it with a hex editor, you will find two mentions of xbox.com with regards to passports. One account is your xbox, the other is your GT. It's covered in better detail in other threads.. Such as the What we know (fact) thread.. (Or whatever it's called).

Anyways.
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Post by: bgrill27 on January 02, 2005, 01:00:00 AM
QUOTE
My box is an Xbox Ver 1.0 (ancient) with an X2-Lite 2.1 Mod chip in it! I have a 100GB upgraded hard drive that has been faithfully in place for practically 2 years!


I too have an old v1.0 box and had the "cannot connect" message appear shortly after I put in a big HD and modded it. I did not get the "console has been modified" message and called tech support. After reading them the error codes they said it was an error on their part and that they would fix it for free (out of warranty.) Because I had a modded box I didn't send it in and instead bought a new EEPROM. I was fine until today when I got the "your console has been modified" message. I do not think you were originally banned because of  MS's detection. It was probably a problem with the v1.0 boxes. Does anyone remember all that talk of the old boxes not being able to connect?

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Post by: kingnbajam on January 02, 2005, 11:26:00 AM
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Post by: bgrill27 on January 02, 2005, 11:39:00 AM
kingnbajam, I assume you flashed with a new EEPROM? Did you make sure you configured all the settings in XBL setup correctly? If you try to connect again does the your console has been modified message appear?
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Post by: kingnbajam on January 02, 2005, 12:11:00 PM
QUOTE(bgrill27 @ Jan 2 2005, 08:10 PM)
kingnbajam, I assume you flashed with a new EEPROM? Did you make sure you configured all the settings in XBL setup correctly? If you try to connect again does the your console has been modified message appear?
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Post by: bgrill27 on January 05, 2005, 01:06:00 AM
I'm not sure on this one. I got the same message as kingnbajam after upgrading to a larger HDD ( about a year ago) and fixed the problem by flashing a new EEPROM. But, in the wake of all the new bannings I'm not sure exactly if that would accomplish anything. It seems that MS changed the way of banning especially to prevent people from getting around the system by simply flashing a new EEPROM. I don't know what to do...
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Post by: xshadyshotx on January 06, 2005, 09:09:00 AM
The way to get past this is don't recover your old gamertag ive been banned 10 times over the past 2 months one time i played it for about 3 weeks without getting banned but i recovered my old gamertag which my xbox got banned on and within 24 hours i got banned. Xbox Live don't ban your account they ban the xbox whatever your account signs on to from the moment you first get banned. Ring up cancel your old accounts that got banned, format your xbox change eeprom and get a new account and you wont be banned.
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Post by: kingnbajam on January 07, 2005, 01:13:00 AM
QUOTE(xshadyshotx @ Jan 6 2005, 05:40 PM)
The way to get past this is don't recover your old gamertag ive been banned 10 times over the past 2 months one time i played it for about 3 weeks without getting banned but i recovered my old gamertag which my xbox got banned on and within 24 hours i got banned. Xbox Live don't ban your account they ban the xbox whatever your account signs on to from the moment you first get banned. Ring up cancel your old accounts that got banned, format your xbox change eeprom and get a new account and you wont be banned.
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Post by: ChrispyCreampuff on January 15, 2005, 05:55:00 PM
QUOTE(Smartass007912 @ Jan 16 2005, 12:30 AM)
Hello
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Post by: feet14 on January 16, 2005, 04:38:00 AM
QUOTE
Using zoomer777's method of fixing a banned xbox that he released on Nov 20 2004 7:24 am. I tried to flash my mod bios with the x4981.06 so that it would boot in the right order and i got the message "manufacturers ID 09 Device ID 00
!! Flash Not Writeable"


Perhaps you need to add an entry for your modchip in the [BIOS] section - example: Flash = 0x04BA,"ALX2+ R3 FLASH",0x40000
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Post by: Smartass007912 on January 16, 2005, 08:43:00 AM
Thanks for the help guys.  Now

Hopw do i Install a new eeprom.  this one seems tricky to me.  I used X-Conrol to load the bios' but i do not know how to put in a new eeprom.  please give me basic instructions like i said i'm new

thanks again

allan