Post by: datapusher on November 08, 2004, 05:49:00 PM
I have already seen a couple people post that they just got banned. I would only assume that I will see more.
I was just banned too. i was even playing on live earlier today. I have never once had my modchip on since I got live. I lost all interest in everything else as soon as I got live since it was a way for me and my younger brother to communicate. So I definately have not been on live once with a modded xbox.
I have a 200GB drive in there with a single f partition and an xecuter 2.3b lite.
I repeat that I never once went on live with the mod chip enabled. And I just turned on the xbox and was unable to log on. I am getting the Modified X Box Error.
EDIT:
Ok people we are over 100 posts with the same thing being said over and over again. We are all getting banned.
To help the guys that eventually help us, lets try adding some more info to the "I'm banned post!"
Stock hard rive?
What type of hard drive
What size drive
Day and Time Banned
Bios name/vers
Modchip name/vers
What game you tried to play
how long it took the ban to enforce
any emails sent from MS
First time ban?
does you username match your gamertag or do you use your gamertag in your sig
etc.
The quicker we get to the bottom of this, the quicker we can find a work around.
Thanks
datapusher
EDIT
Working on the current hard drive swap theory:
Looking for anyone who changed their hard drive before xbox live came out and has been banned.
Looking for anyone who changed their hard drive before signing up for live and has been banned.
This post has been edited by datapusher: Nov 10 2004, 12:46 AM
Post by: GamezMan on November 08, 2004, 06:04:00 PM
Did u ever get baaned before or is this ur 1st time ??? did u have auto sign in abled or disabled ??? and do u have the disable live sign in bios on ur chip >???
Post by: datapusher on November 08, 2004, 06:15:00 PM
I have never been banned before.
I have never had the internet connected when I had the chip on.
The chip has never been turned on since I started using live.
I have been on live for 2 months.
I have an xecuter 2.3blite with the X2 4981 BIOS
I have auto sign on off
The only save games I have are from games that generated them both from hard drive and dvd games.
I have never tried to play a live game off of HD
that's all I can think of at the moment.
I hope this helps some people.
And Again I played for about 9 hours yesterday and 2 today. I turned off xbox for about an hour to do dishes and pay bills and turned on to get the error. Guess I shouldn't be to concerned about waiting in line tonight to get that thing that shant be mentioned.
Post by: KneelB4Me on November 08, 2004, 06:14:00 PM
I posted this in another topic lower down. If I purchase a new Xbox just for Live, will I be able to reactivate my XBL account without having future problems? Or do I need to also buy a new starter kit?
Post by: floydian_steve on November 08, 2004, 06:24:00 PM
Post by: datapusher on November 08, 2004, 06:56:00 PM
Buying another xbox just for live is just not feasable at this point.
Post by: Fofer on November 08, 2004, 07:23:00 PM
| QUOTE (datapusher @ Nov 9 2004, 02:45 AM) |
| I was just banned too. i was even playing on live earlier today. |
datapusher:
Thanks for the report and sorry to hear your bad news. There are lots of folks in similar boats and hopefully we'll be able to make sense of all these recent bans soon.
But this may help us figure out what has caused it.
What game(s) were you playing yesterday for 9 hours and today for 2?
Post by: datapusher on November 08, 2004, 07:32:00 PM
today was counter strike.
When i powered off and came back, i switched to mechassault and the problems started.
I am willing to answer any other questions that may help narrow this thing down as i would like o get up and running asap as would most people. I have a feeling though that this may be a big issue. if they did plan this to coincide with the launch of that game, they probably have been working on this for a while.
Post by: nagmine on November 08, 2004, 07:45:00 PM
and i havent been banned on it... hopefully it will last.
Post by: herbtv on November 08, 2004, 07:47:00 PM
Post by: datapusher on November 08, 2004, 08:03:00 PM
If someone wants to donate an eeprom to see if this works, it would be appreciated.
Afterwords I am going to document the process completely to see what happens.
hopefully we can figure out how they are findingout and geta workaround.
So if anyone wants to donate an eeprom, that would be great.
Post by: deacon187 on November 08, 2004, 08:10:00 PM
ok im signed into ms live dash, ill leave it for an hour or 2 and then see what happens when i get back with halo
This post has been edited by deacon187: Nov 9 2004, 04:14 AM
Post by: shanafan on November 08, 2004, 08:07:00 PM
| QUOTE (datapusher @ Nov 8 2004, 07:45 PM) |
| It looks like that with tommorow being Xbox's big day they are going to ban as many people as they can. |
LOL.. we'll see if this magical date people seem to think will actually happen.
Oh, and watch for December 12 for another XBox Live banning surpise
Post by: deacon187 on November 08, 2004, 08:18:00 PM
| QUOTE (datapusher @ Nov 8 2004, 09:59 PM) |
| I just desoldered the mod chip and put back in the stock drive. If someone wants to donate an eeprom to see if this works, it would be appreciated. Afterwords I am going to document the process completely to see what happens. hopefully we can figure out how they are findingout and geta workaround. So if anyone wants to donate an eeprom, that would be great. |
i have an eeprom from a box that was banned over a year ago but im guessing its not good anymore huh
Post by: datapusher on November 08, 2004, 08:24:00 PM
| QUOTE (shanafan @ Nov 8 2004, 09:10 PM) |
| LOL.. we'll see if this magical date people seem to think will actually happen. Oh, and watch for December 12 for another XBox Live banning surpise |
well doesn't seem just a little odd that all these people (at least 20) are being banned tonight? Especially since not one thing has changed on my xbox in 2 months. they know that there are going to be a ton of people all on xbox live in the next 24 hours. It could be like Direct TV's ECMs whenever there is a big PPV event that will draw a ton of people.
I am just suggesting an idea. I have no proof, but damn it just seems really odd that there were a few people banned when I logged on here and as i check around the forums more seem to be getting banned as well.
Post by: shanafan on November 08, 2004, 08:26:00 PM
Post by: shanafan on November 08, 2004, 08:33:00 PM
People are always, always posting that they were banned without accessing Live with the modchip on. This is nothing new.
But, hey, we'll see.. But honestly, if there was a true banning day.. there would be a lot of peolple posting. A lot
Post by: Avrame on November 08, 2004, 09:03:00 PM
AvramE
Post by: datapusher on November 08, 2004, 09:12:00 PM
i believe that theory was debunked. but who knows. the only thing i can see it being would be saved games or the drive.
i am gonna resolder the chip and put my save games on the stock drive and see if i get banned or not.
Post by: snowman420 on November 08, 2004, 09:12:00 PM
Post by: Avrame on November 08, 2004, 09:25:00 PM
), and just signed up for XBLive. I've been using my original HDD, with THClite blue mod, XBMC, and stepmania loaded onto the HDD. For the last 3 days, I've played for about 3-5 hours total, and no ban so far. So I'm happy, i guess. I want to drop my 160 back in, since it has all my emulators and crap on it, but I don't wanna be banned. Another thing I have done is put a half of a black marble on the power button to my xbox, so I have to press eject to turn it on. When my xbox turns on, since the cd tray is open, it always loads my dash. If it's blue, the mod is on (duh
), if the dash is green, I guess I'm safe.Well, I'll wait till around December I guess and see what the final verdict of Halo 2 on live + large HDD comes out too.
I guess it would hurt to encourage others to try the same, but I think that would just be ignorant. lol, gl guys. Don't forget, zodiak sell unbanned epproms on the Buy and Sell forum on the xbox-scene for $8.
Post by: solid7x2 on November 08, 2004, 10:05:00 PM
Post by: shanafan on November 08, 2004, 10:16:00 PM
| QUOTE (solid7x2 @ Nov 9 2004, 12:08 AM) |
| I think im banned. It didnt say modified hardware tho, it just said network error... I never play with chip on, and I got an 80 gig hd. Tommorrow Im going to slayer my stock and see what happens. Im sure by then there will be a million posts on this topic |
Please try to be more specific.. what kind of network error? That is such a broad error
Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on November 08, 2004, 10:16:00 PM
edit: MOTHER FUCKER... guess ill go to meijers and get a new xbox
Post by: Killa420 on November 08, 2004, 10:17:00 PM
| QUOTE (cloudjoe @ Nov 9 2004, 06:13 AM) |
| This is some BS, just because Halo comes out doesn't mean you can just ban everyone. |
Wake up and smell the roses dude. You hacked their system. They can do whatever they want if you try to play on their service when you hacked their systems. That made me really lol.
Post by: shanafan on November 08, 2004, 10:17:00 PM
| QUOTE (Killa420 @ Nov 9 2004, 12:20 AM) |
| Wake up and smell the roses dude. You hacked their system. They can do whatever they want if you try to play on their service when you hacked their systems. That made me really lol. |
Smell the roses.. hehe
Post by: datapusher on November 08, 2004, 10:23:00 PM
| QUOTE (solid7x2 @ Nov 8 2004, 11:08 PM) |
| I think im banned. It didnt say modified hardware tho, it just said network error... I never play with chip on, and I got an 80 gig hd. Tommorrow Im going to slayer my stock and see what happens. Im sure by then there will be a million posts on this topic |
go into the troubleshooting section in the dash and see if it gives you a mod error
Post by: Avrame on November 08, 2004, 10:24:00 PM
'.AvramE
Post by: Bigsam411 on November 08, 2004, 10:27:00 PM
| QUOTE (ILLusions0fGrander @ Nov 9 2004, 07:19 AM) |
| just got back form getting h2... first time ever not being able to connect to live.. banned.... hardware modified. edit: MOTHER FUCKER... guess ill go to meijers and get a new xbox |
yeah I was just focking banned too. I get the collectors edition and get home and try to sign on to live and it says I may have modified hardware or software. thats bull, I have never signed on with my modchip on and I have auto sign in turned off and I just signed on last night to see if I was baned or not and I was able to sign on just fine. Im pissed!!!.
Post by: Veryn on November 08, 2004, 10:32:00 PM
Xbox 1.6
Xecuter 2.6 with switch
m8_16 bios
same stock eeprom
same stock 10gig HD
xbox live...
playing Halo as we speak....oh so not banned
look to your HDs, anything active other than the c,d and e are prolly being scaned...
Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on November 08, 2004, 10:36:00 PM
Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on November 08, 2004, 10:37:00 PM
edit: 9-14-2004 manufacture... AND A SAMSUNG! nice.. maybe worth the 150 for an xbox live only box?
Post by: solid7x2 on November 08, 2004, 10:40:00 PM
Post by: Avrame on November 08, 2004, 10:42:00 PM
' I mean, you could have boughten another epprom from the buy sell trade forum and got your xbox back on live, but if it's worth playing halo 2 online, I think a new box is worth it... I think i will just sick with my stock and see if I get banned or not, i'll post back up as soon as i get banned, if i ever do.AvramE
Edit:
Yep, just popped in top spin, no ban yet. I have a feeling they are scanning hdds... if you have a large hdd and got ban, mind giving a shout out here to confirm my theory?
Post by: Psykomantis00 on November 08, 2004, 10:47:00 PM
Post by: datapusher on November 08, 2004, 10:52:00 PM
Now if I buy an unbanned eeprom and put the stock hard drive back in and have it disabled is there any chance that I can get banned?
Post by: Mentok on November 08, 2004, 10:53:00 PM
Post by: Avrame on November 08, 2004, 10:57:00 PM
XBL (xbox live) bans your hdd code, not your box. And the motherboard and hdd have the same code. So you buy the new epprom, and flash the hdd and motherboard with it, and then XBL thinks your xbox is whatever xbox your epprom came from. As long as the person with the orig epprom doesn't get XBL too, you're safe with that epprom online with a stock hdd and the modchip off (or in stealth mode if you have a XBIT like me)
AvramE
Post by: Veryn on November 08, 2004, 11:03:00 PM
Post by: Avrame on November 08, 2004, 11:05:00 PM
avramE
Post by: Veryn on November 08, 2004, 11:08:00 PM
Post by: Avrame on November 08, 2004, 11:16:00 PM
Just checking if my theory that a larger Hdd gets you banned is right or not
AvramE
Post by: Veryn on November 08, 2004, 11:17:00 PM
Post by: Avrame on November 08, 2004, 11:23:00 PM
AvramE
Post by: Veryn on November 08, 2004, 11:26:00 PM
Post by: Avrame on November 08, 2004, 11:28:00 PM
' thats what i've been saying in my last 5 or so posts.AvramE
Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on November 08, 2004, 11:29:00 PM
and so it begins.
Post by: Veryn on November 08, 2004, 11:29:00 PM
original eeprom + new bigger hd = yuo teh screwzors
Post by: deacon187 on November 08, 2004, 11:29:00 PM
| QUOTE (deacon187 @ Nov 8 2004, 10:06 PM) |
| im gonna hop online and just leave it signed in to ms dash for a while, and post back after midnight if im able to log on with halo2, i have never been banned before, i had 2 xboxes and was replacing a chameleon with a X2.6 and messed up the board a lil and hadnt had the time to play with it, so i just threw the chameleon into a box i used for live only for over 6 months, also swapped HDD way after gamertag was transfered and have always had my live account on the xbox ok im signed into ms live dash, ill leave it for an hour or 2 and then see what happens when i get back with halo |
dunno whats going on i just loaded halo 2 signed into live had to update dash from halo 2 and im all good, somehow i just dont understand, maybe im just lucky, i dunno
maybe ill just stick with this chameleon 1.3 and to hell with the X3
Post by: Veryn on November 08, 2004, 11:33:00 PM
Post by: Veryn on November 08, 2004, 11:40:00 PM
Post by: Avrame on November 08, 2004, 11:46:00 PM
Also Veryn, you seem to be getting it wrong. You get an error when booting up an xbox with a motherboard with a mismatched hdd and motherboard eeprom. there is no way you can play on xbox live even if you mess up with the eeprom flashing, since your xbox won't even boot then. If you have an unbanned eeprom, and you are using a stock hdd with the chip off, you should be fine. Thats the reason that hdds and motherboards are sold in pair, because you need a matching set in order to get your box to boot in the first place.
AvramE
Post by: Avrame on November 08, 2004, 11:48:00 PM
eeprom selling thread by Zodiiak
He has instructions on how to flash them correctly and such,
gl/hf
AvramE
Post by: Avrame on November 08, 2004, 11:55:00 PM
alittle more of a clarification:
1)played with stock on live
2)swapped in 250 in played off live
3)put in stock, went on live
4)discovered you were banned?
AvramE
Post by: southbark on November 08, 2004, 11:56:00 PM
Just a thought
Post by: Avrame on November 09, 2004, 12:00:00 AM
. I mean, it's true that people got it early, like on Nov 5th, when some store new michigan and such released it early, but even then, people tried XBLive, and they couldn't connect to the server. I guess it's since the server hasn't been put up yet. But now, people are playing on the server as we speak, with stock and stockly modded boxes. I don't think the release rate difference has anything to do with the bannings.AvramE
but whats the sound of one hand clapping? who knows, i might be as far away from the right answers as I can be.
Post by: Synthetic on November 09, 2004, 12:01:00 AM
| QUOTE (southbark @ Nov 9 2004, 08:59 AM) |
| well here is a thought M$ and bungie ar on PST which maens all the east coast people got there H2 at NOV 8, 9 p.m. PST and the game is not suppost to be released until NoV 9 so maybe there xbox live computers still think its Nov 8th and guess what they think they game was released early so you get banned for getting an early copy Just a thought |
Wrong on so many levels.
It's pretty well known that some stores in the midwest - and elsewhere - sold Halo 2 early, they wouldn't ban people for that. It's the retailers fault, not the customer's fault. Second, even if they were doing something that dumb, they wouldn't fuck it up so bad that they would ban every single person that got Halo 2 tonight.
Post by: Avrame on November 09, 2004, 12:02:00 AM
Post by: Avrame on November 09, 2004, 12:06:00 AM
AvramE
Post by: Avrame on November 09, 2004, 12:08:00 AM
Not like you are gonna open the new one anyway, so it'll be fine to returned AvramE
Post by: cloudjoe on November 09, 2004, 12:11:00 AM
| QUOTE |
Killa420 Wake up and smell the roses dude. You hacked their system. They can do whatever they want if you try to play on their service when you hacked their systems. That made me really lol. |
Thier system? So that $300 for the system and $50 for XBLive must have just been a charitible donation to the poor Gates family then huh?
Last I checked you could actually do what you want with the things you own. I never tried to cheat on XBLive, and I hope that there is never a way to do so. So give me a break
Post by: Veryn on November 09, 2004, 12:21:00 AM
Post by: Avrame on November 09, 2004, 12:21:00 AM
I swear I saw it there...
anywho
How to flash a new eeprom
AvramE
edit:
cloudjoe, I think the larger hdd is enough to get you banned
I hope thats not that case. I'm getting tired of having to unplug and swap the hddsPost by: Avrame on November 09, 2004, 12:28:00 AM
aVramE
Post by: Veryn on November 09, 2004, 12:31:00 AM
Post by: southbark on November 09, 2004, 12:31:00 AM
Post by: Avrame on November 09, 2004, 12:33:00 AM
avramE
Post by: Slydragon on November 09, 2004, 12:39:00 AM
Post by: Veryn on November 09, 2004, 12:41:00 AM
Post by: Avrame on November 09, 2004, 12:44:00 AM
AvramE
Post by: Veryn on November 09, 2004, 12:45:00 AM
Post by: Avrame on November 09, 2004, 12:50:00 AM
aVramE
edit:
aighty aight yo... i'm heading to bed now.... gotta get up in 6 hours to buy halo 2
15 limiteds reserved... WOOT
Post by: Veryn on November 09, 2004, 12:52:00 AM
Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on November 09, 2004, 12:54:00 AM
im just pissed i had to spend an extra 150 bucks to get an xbox to play halo.
shanafan is the xbox live expert and he says "chip disabled, xbox live is fine"
well, guaranteed... this is no longer the case.
but i guess prior to tonight, that was the case.
oh well, as i sit on my new xbox enjoying the kinda odd lobby systems on halo 2.
anyone want to buy an unused xbox controller for 23 shipped?
edit: 23 shipped
Post by: Veryn on November 09, 2004, 01:19:00 AM
i just realized something, when you have your mod chip on and run a prog such as a emulator or xbmc or pcxhdd loader, IT SAVES TO YOUR MEMORY!! DELETE IT
Post by: shanafan on November 09, 2004, 02:23:00 AM
| QUOTE (Veryn @ Nov 9 2004, 03:22 AM) |
| HOLY CRAP!!!!111eleven i just realized something, when you have your mod chip on and run a prog such as a emulator or xbmc or pcxhdd loader, IT SAVES TO YOUR MEMORY!! DELETE IT |
That's nothing new, as well as MS doesn't scan HDs looking for that kind of stuff.
Post by: Dr_Colossus on November 09, 2004, 03:24:00 AM
Post by: The Timmy on November 09, 2004, 03:27:00 AM
if so, what have you been doing these past few hours on live? how is your xbox modded? are you on live now?
a few of those who have modded boxes who can still get on live should maybe try a voice chat on live to discuss their setups further --or post here, either way.
Post by: darylzero on November 09, 2004, 03:39:00 AM
xecuter 2.3b lite +
160 gig hdd
I have been playing halo 2 with the chip off on xbox live. I havent played in a few hours...just turned it on and signed into live fine.
I forgot what bios i am using...an xecutor one....
never been banned before...never had my modchip on and accidentally went to any live menu.
i have auto-sign off and i have a passcode.
Post by: dzv on November 09, 2004, 04:00:00 AM
| QUOTE (Dr_Colossus @ Nov 9 2004, 10:27 PM) |
| dzv - You say your HDD has been swapped before, did you play online with your previous drive? Also have you ever replaced your DVD drive, |
Yes, I did play on Live with the other HDD. This could be what caused my banning. I guess we'll have to see what happens with other people...
I also changed the DVD drive, but I think that would be almost irrelevant. I can't imagine that MS would ban for that.
Also, I forgot to mention that all hacked software is on my E drive, C drive is completely stock.
Post by: Solstice0 on November 09, 2004, 04:02:00 AM
Setup
250 Maxtor HD: F and G partitions
T-616 Samsung DVD
TSOP Flash
Post by: datapusher on November 09, 2004, 04:17:00 AM
| QUOTE (cypro66 @ Nov 9 2004, 03:25 AM) |
| Just to make sure... If I haven't signed in to live before... And have a xecuter2.1 Lite and a 120 Gb Maxtor. Is it safe to go live (with modchip off, clean c drive, no halo2 (french) saves)? Or should I also flash my eeprom? Again, I haven't signed in to live before with my stock hd. |
No. Not right now. I would wait. We are getting banned for a reason, but no one knows why yet.
This isn't just a coincidence as some suggest, look at the numbers.
NOTE: I am going to edit the main post to reflect ll the people posting. I am going to ask for more details that just I was banned.
Note: still looking for some eeprom donations to do some experiments. PM me if you have an extra.
datapusher
Post by: datapusher on November 09, 2004, 04:36:00 AM
| QUOTE (bagofice @ Nov 9 2004, 05:35 AM) |
| maybe it has something to do with g partitions |
Highly Doubtful
I have no G partition and I was one of the first to get banned on the 8th that started posting about it.
Post by: bagofice on November 09, 2004, 04:42:00 AM
Post by: cuffy on November 09, 2004, 04:45:00 AM
IBM 200G Drive
Xenium Ice chip.
He had not been on live for a few days. Tried last night and got the modded hardware message.
So I panic'd at this point and put my stock drive back in, currently I have not been banned (yet!)
My setup is:
Stock Drive (was 120 G IBM, last signed into live last week with the big drive)
Xenium Ice chip.
My current view is that the latest live dash/sign in has been enabled to check for not stock HD (bigger or incorrect partition map etc.)
Regards
Cuffy
Post by: ccskorn on November 09, 2004, 04:51:00 AM
Post by: scienide on November 09, 2004, 05:16:00 AM
| QUOTE (scienide @ Nov 9 2004, 12:39 PM) |
| Hey guys... i dunno if this is for europe also... but i will do some testing.. i have 2 xboxes ... both soft modded... one original and one with a 160 gb seagate drive.. i am at work right now but in my break i will remove any softmods and savegames from my harddisks and try to log into live with both xboxes... If it bans larger hd's i would be banned on my main xbox but not on my second one as this will be original ... I have used both on live with the current configuration and have never made any changes to it .... I will let you know in 2 or 3 hours.... Hope this helps all of you.... with kind regards, Hcore |
Hey..
i just got back from home..
i tried out a couple of things...
Halo2 is available at the store but havent got it yet .... i wil lhave it tonight ..
i have 2 xboxes
both softmodded
one with a stock hd the other one with a seagate 160gb ..
What i did with both
1. Remove all files from C and E involving hacked software
2. Removed all TDATA and UDATA with saves from hacked software or downloaded savegames
3. Cleared out the cache folders: X Y Z
What i did is, logging into live.. starting up topspin ... staying online.. going back to the dash... couple of reboots... waiting for half and hour and repeating the process again...
No ban yet... will try tonight with the original halo... but i dont expect any problems cause i heard its not really halo related but it involves every live game and even going to the live dash...
P.S. I havent been online in live recently cause of the frenchy ... could it be that m$ was preparing this already in the last month.. scanning for savegames etc and making the ban effective on this date so that they couldnt enjoy halo on live?
Good luck to all banned people, i keep my fingered cross.
With kind regards,
Hcore
Post by: Psykomantis00 on November 09, 2004, 05:20:00 AM
| QUOTE (scienide @ Nov 9 2004, 02:19 PM) |
| Hey.. i just got back from home.. i tried out a couple of things... Halo2 is available at the store but havent got it yet .... i wil lhave it tonight .. i have 2 xboxes both softmodded one with a stock hd the other one with a seagate 160gb .. What i did with both 1. Remove all files from C and E involving hacked software 2. Removed all TDATA and UDATA with saves from hacked software or downloaded savegames 3. Cleared out the cache folders: X Y Z What i did is, logging into live.. starting up topspin ... staying online.. going back to the dash... couple of reboots... waiting for half and hour and repeating the process again... No ban yet... will try tonight with the original halo... but i dont expect any problems cause i heard its not really halo related but it involves every live game and even going to the live dash... P.S. I havent been online in live recently cause of the frenchy ... could it be that m$ was preparing this already in the last month.. scanning for savegames etc and making the ban effective on this date so that they couldnt enjoy halo on live? Good luck to all banned people, i keep my fingered cross. With kind regards, Hcore |
No I dont think it was a build of of eeproms to be banned becuase I havnet been online for 3 months and I just got online last night. Its deffinately the hard drive thing. This blows. Ohh well I guess when I get paid I get to buy another xbox...
Post by: solid7x2 on November 09, 2004, 05:22:00 AM
Post by: bagofice on November 09, 2004, 05:33:00 AM
Post by: cuffy on November 09, 2004, 05:39:00 AM
| QUOTE (solid7x2 @ Nov 9 2004, 02:25 PM) |
| This doesnt make sence, if a few people have larger hard drives and haven been banned yet, what makes them different? |
It may just be a matter of time! We will just have to wait and see.
You have to admire MS for the marketing skills, this is going to sell a load of new xboxes.
I have been using chipped xboxes since the early days of chipping, so I can really grumble that MS are trying to stop us. I am just thankful it is just the box that is banned and not the account.
I am keeping my fingers crossed that it is just a case of the dash scanning for HD type etc.
Regards All
Cuffy
Post by: cuffy on November 09, 2004, 05:40:00 AM
| QUOTE (bagofice @ Nov 9 2004, 02:36 PM) |
| Maybe just americans? What country are banned ppl from? |
May mate is in the UK and he got band at 01:12 this morning.
Regard
Cuffy
Post by: grug on November 09, 2004, 05:44:00 AM
Lucky I have my friends EEPROM as well. I screwed mine up a few weeks ago and had to borrow his to embed into a BIOS to re-flash mine.
Post by: Avrame on November 09, 2004, 05:44:00 AM
I mean, it is sort of obvious now that M$ was looking for a way to get back at the modding scene, so they now have a game that both modders and nonmodders alike will buy: Halo2. I think it's given that they would put extra protection into this new game in order to crack down at all the people that have been so considered "cheating them" for the last 1 or 2 years. Evil huh? I'm still all for the larger hdd theory, where if M$ detects anything bigger than the original 8gb stock hdd, you'll get banned...
AvramE
Post by: bagofice on November 09, 2004, 05:46:00 AM
Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on November 09, 2004, 05:56:00 AM
and i told him i got banned now hes scared to sign on to see if hes banned.
weve played splinter cell steadily 4-5 times a week since it came out months ago chipped with no problems...so im curious... but i dont know if hes gonna sign on..
he has two xbox's, ones his girls un-modded... hes been using that for halo 2
Post by: solid7x2 on November 09, 2004, 05:57:00 AM
| QUOTE (Avrame @ Nov 9 2004, 02:47 PM) |
| I mean, it is sort of obvious now that M$ was looking for a way to get back at the modding scene, so they now have a game that both modders and nonmodders alike will buy: Halo2. I think it's given that they would put extra protection into this new game in order to crack down at all the people that have been so considered "cheating them" for the last 1 or 2 years. Evil huh? I'm still all for the larger hdd theory, where if M$ detects anything bigger than the original 8gb stock hdd, you'll get banned... |
M$ probably doesnt need the service of the modders any more with h2... a good portion of people buying halo 2 will subscribe new to live, so they are going to give us the shaft. yay shaft!
edit: illusions- that would be perfect to support the large hd theory... try and convince him to sign on!
Post by: enigma_x on November 09, 2004, 06:49:00 AM
Here's my setup:
stock 10 gb hd and a 40 gb hardrive with hacked programs (i swap between the two)
flashed split TSOP with iND BiOS 5001 and standard ms bios
Since I highly doubt MS could detect a split TSOP, I must assume they are scanning files on hard drives. Also, I haven't played Halo 2, I just tried to sign in at the MS dash. My stock drive should have been clean, but I guess I'll need to search again for non stock files. This really sucks. I was looking forward to some H2 live action, but that's not going to happen for a while
EDIT: Just for clarity, I ALWAYS log on with the stock drive and the standard MS bios.
Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on November 09, 2004, 07:38:00 AM
also, you arent the only one who thought that 11-9-2004 would be a B-day for modified xbox live users.
regardless... it seems to have been, and id like to know the setups of the modded peoples box's who were luckily not banned yet
Post by: Slrpgeit on November 09, 2004, 07:43:00 AM
Post by: solid7x2 on November 09, 2004, 07:53:00 AM
anyways most people saw this coming, were hoping it wasnt really coming or were in denial, and now we are not 'scrambling' to find a solution, we are trying to work around this.
Post by: Killa420 on November 09, 2004, 08:07:00 AM
Post by: thbirdman on November 09, 2004, 08:19:00 AM
Post by: MrAndersn on November 09, 2004, 08:31:00 AM
Post by: Corspegrinder99 on November 09, 2004, 08:36:00 AM
Stock hard drive? On Xenium box
What type of hard drive? Seagate 120gig on Xenium | Stock on X3
What size drive? Stock on X3 | 120GB on Xenium
Day and Time Banned = Nov 9th around 3am
Bios name/vers = Sig
Modchip name/vers = Sig
What game you tried to play = Halo 2~both
how long it took the ban to enforce? was logged on Xenium box for like 2minutes and X3 it seemed instant
any emails sent from MS? Not yet
First time ban? on X3 box yes and Xenium box No
does you username match your gamertag or do you use your gamertag in your sig
etc. GT = CoRP5e and Corpsegrinder99
Post by: Veryn on November 09, 2004, 08:38:00 AM
Post by: cromat44 on November 09, 2004, 09:04:00 PM
this sucks... I don't pirate games... i just wanted linux and stuff like xbmc...
I think im going to do that mod for two hd's with a switch... and the one wire on the ide cable determines which drive is seen... because I left my retail drive in perfect condition just in case something like this happened.
EDIT: would this work if i replaced the last drive with my retail HD? and switch the wires so that instead of the first HD is always on, its the DVD always on with the HD's switching?
Post by: Psykomantis00 on November 09, 2004, 09:05:00 PM
| QUOTE (whet1134 @ Nov 10 2004, 05:29 AM) |
Did you get your XBL before or after you modded your xbox?  |
I dont think that matters. I have 3 gamer tags, one of them I made 2 days before getting halo 2. Thats what pisses me off. I just paid MS 50 dollars for a game, and another 50 for a brand new Halo 2 gamertag, and I get freakin banned...
Post by: Psykomantis00 on November 09, 2004, 09:11:00 PM
V1.0 with smartXX chip with the bios that blocks live.
160 gig HDD
Has the stock dash and XBMX
All programs installed on E
Games are on F
Movies are on F
Music is on G
PC files are on G
BANNED! I was banned from live the instant I got online with halo 2. I loaded the french game save, STUPID MISTAKE. Im sure thats what caused it...
Post by: whet1134 on November 09, 2004, 09:31:00 PM
| QUOTE (Psykomantis00 @ Nov 10 2004, 06:08 AM) |
| I dont think that matters. I have 3 gamer tags, one of them I made 2 days before getting halo 2. Thats what pisses me off. I just paid MS 50 dollars for a game, and another 50 for a brand new Halo 2 gamertag, and I get freakin banned... |
I thought it might matter because if I get a new EPPROM and I swap out my 200Gb for another drive I have here, the two virgin serials may not get picked up by MS if that's indeed what is happening. Can anyone test this out? It will be a week before I can get to it.
Post by: bearauto on November 09, 2004, 09:40:00 PM
Then I played a game on LIVE (had to download LIVE updates), and played for an hour and a half.
I'll check back later tonight to see if I got banned.
PS, I have the orig HD, with nothing installed on it, and I don't remember whether I modded my xbox before I got LIVE.
Oh and I don't have Halo 2 retail.
Post by: a_madman on November 09, 2004, 10:04:00 PM
His box details:
Chip - X2.6
Bios - X2 4983.06
Dash - THC Lite, running as evoxdash.xbe from C:
HDD - 160 GB (Seagate?)
His E: partition was clean, except I noticed after locking the upgraded hdd, there was a locklog.txt or something like that in E: along with UDATA, TDATA and CACHE. I didn't delete it so it would have been there when he logged onto Live.
He also has had this Live account for a while and played it with the stock hdd before getting it modded last night.
We're acquiring a new EEPROM for him, but I told him to wait to get back on Live until more information can be gathered regarding the issue. Thanks for everyone's input.
Post by: mrjkwik on November 09, 2004, 10:48:00 PM
Post by: Kaitou_Ace on November 09, 2004, 11:59:00 PM
2 of the systems had a different hdd when they originally signed onto live but it's been about a month out.
anything else i can share? let me know.
Post by: dzv on November 10, 2004, 12:05:00 AM
| QUOTE (Kaitou_Ace @ Nov 10 2004, 07:02 PM) |
| 2 of the systems had a different hdd when they originally signed onto live but it's been about a month out. |
This is interesting, as it seems to disprove the most popular theory at the moment. Perhaps their ban just hasn't taken effect yet. Please keep us posted if anything changes.
Post by: wagner on November 10, 2004, 12:18:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| Crystal Box looking might nice for Live use only. Hmmm, now I know what I want for XMas!! |
Where do they sell the Crystal Xbox?
I'm pretty sure all of us being banned has to do with the mod chip, not the hard drive. because people with stock hard drives are being banned too.
Post by: Chunkster on November 10, 2004, 12:36:00 AM
Try this site for the package description;
http://www.futuresho...15&WLBS=fsweb25
Kinda sweet. I'm picturing a red and green LED cladded Xbox for Xmas?
Post by: Chunkster on November 10, 2004, 12:39:00 AM
Post by: bearauto on November 10, 2004, 01:10:00 AM
Post by: dannymak on November 10, 2004, 01:17:00 AM
Here is my story:
1. I was playing DOA3 a while, switch to doau (Because i want to unlock "hitomi" in doau)
2. Removed the Lan cable before playing DOAU
3. Reboot, go to XBMC's filemanager to delete the screenshot01.bmp from E:\ and browse C:\ (nothing to do with it, just want to make sure no non-ms files in C:\ before going to Live)
4. Delete Halo2 french ver. savegame from tHclite and its game from ftp
5. switch off the chip and go XBL
6. Cant connect to XBL dashboard then go to troubleshooting , then detecting the network at the last one finding XBL, it popup a message say "Your Xbox console cannot communicate with Xbox Live because the software or hardware may have been modified"
I read all the post from this thread, XBL will ban the eeprom with the hdkey, So is it possible to flash a new eeprom with a new hdd to get Live again ?
Currently i have a new eeprom and my xbox stock hdd, i'll try later and post the result here
Thanks
Regards,
Danny
Post by: misfits138 on November 10, 2004, 01:50:00 AM
Post by: mkjones on November 10, 2004, 02:05:00 AM
I just wonderd. Did you actually ever call the xbox live center to complain?
If you call up, say you have been banned for "no" reason. Then find out the reason they banned you.
If they ask if your xbox is modded simply say NO
how the hell will they be able to tell? Come round to your house and LOOK? Just act the fool,
ya know "whats a modchip?" "what do you mean hard drive?"and "it was a present for my birthday, I really wanted a PS2 but got this" If you strongly argue the fact that your xbox is NOT modded and that you have been banned for no reason Im sure you can get some information that would be helpfull to everyone
Post by: eqqman on November 10, 2004, 05:02:00 AM
Haven't been this forum for a while. Seems like there were already plenty of xbl people been banned like I do.
As you see the time i post, 1.5 hrs ago i was banned.
And here's my xbox info:
Crystal (v1.6)
xecuter2.6 with m8
120G of hdd (WD brand)
A pal of mine post here that he was banned too... we aint doing anything wrong and it was working good like 3 month for me.
Post by: mitsu50 on November 10, 2004, 05:43:00 AM
EDIT:
i also have evox on my C drive, and the HD is the stock 8 gig.
Post by: DeathwishCrew on November 10, 2004, 06:04:00 AM
Post by: Jodo Kast on November 10, 2004, 06:21:00 AM
| QUOTE (DeathwishCrew @ Nov 10 2004, 03:07 PM) |
| The game save should not ban you. The game save works on the leaked french, English and the original. I had all three on my drive, and I still havent been banned. My hard drive though is stock. The other thing that I might have done that is different, is I first played the single campaign mode with my save before I went on LIVE. Maybe that changed it. Also to note, I have all my evox stuff on E: and not on C:. It is still there. |
Simply people need to stop being so dumb and saying its the Halo2 saved games... it cant be think how many legitimate people have Halo 2 out there for Review and Testing.
If M$ started baning the Boxes of Magazines think what great reviews they would get !! They CANT do that it would be Media suicide.
BTW i'm NOT saying that Halo 2 does not have anything to do with the Bannings, as it does look like it has somthing to do with the HD scanning.... maybe.
Post by: Killa420 on November 10, 2004, 06:26:00 AM
Friends box, 1.0 tsop flashed, split with 4981 bios and original bios. 200 gig maxtor hd, Never singed up for live untill 4 days ago. Uses unleashx and has progs all over c:\ / e:\ and had french version also. We both are still going strong.
Although to tell you the truth. I think live is pretty crappy. The way you have to use that matchmaking crap is stupid. I have only gotten to play one team slayer match which ended in like 2 min. The rest is always some stupid bomb or ctf single flag crap. I cant wait for the new xbox connect b/c I have a feeling I will be using that instead of live. Thank god its just a trial.
Post by: Gumba on November 10, 2004, 07:15:00 AM
| QUOTE (shanafan @ Nov 9 2004, 05:10 AM) |
| LOL.. we'll see if this magical date people seem to think will actually happen. Oh, and watch for December 12 for another XBox Live banning surpise |
hehe
ummm
oh.
Post by: Dasgooch on November 10, 2004, 07:58:00 AM
Post by: jz28 on November 10, 2004, 08:22:00 AM
| QUOTE (Killa420 @ Nov 10 2004, 10:29 AM) |
| Update here. Still on live as of 6 pm last night which means about 13 hours so far. 160 gig maxtor hd , xenium ice chip, 1.4 halo le box. NEVER used xbox live untill I signed up 5 days ago. Use unleashx which is named to evoxdash.xbe. Have crap all over c:\ & f:\ and played french version before (deleted game / saves / e:\cache) before installing new halo 2. Friends box, 1.0 tsop flashed, split with 4981 bios and original bios. 200 gig maxtor hd, Never singed up for live untill 4 days ago. Uses unleashx and has progs all over c:\ / e:\ and had french version also. We both are still going strong. Although to tell you the truth. I think live is pretty crappy. The way you have to use that matchmaking crap is stupid. I have only gotten to play one team slayer match which ended in like 2 min. The rest is always some stupid bomb or ctf single flag crap. I cant wait for the new xbox connect b/c I have a feeling I will be using that instead of live. Thank god its just a trial. |
why wait for xbc? you can play with a couple hundred people on kai right now.
www.teamxlink.co.uk
and you dont have to pay to play with a large number of people. you dont have to pay...ever...
just a suggestion.
Post by: whet1134 on November 10, 2004, 10:14:00 AM
My question is this: If MS is using the serial numbers and EEPROMS to ban, then why wasn't I banned earlier in the year when I was using my XBL account on others' xboxs. Their serials aren't the same as mine. The only thing I can think of is MS is linking my EEPROM to my HDD specifically, leaving my brother's EEPROM and HDD linked seperately as well, and when I changed mine, they screwed me. In that case, I'd just need a new HDD and EEPROM, not neccesarily a new XBL account. Thoughts?
Post by: Syphon Filter on November 10, 2004, 10:23:00 AM
XBL accounts are deisgned to be used on different boxes///ie round your mates house etc. But what i think what people are getting at is this:
When you sign in on your XBL account from any give xbox it does a couple of things:
Grab the serial #
and the HDD serial (or some other UID type thing).
The next time you sign in from that xbox it will check to see if the serial from the xbox and the HDD are the same as they were the last time you signed in from that account.
I think thats what people are getting at...but i am not 100% sure. To be honest no one really knows whats going on bar MS themselves.
Until someone actually works out what is really going on and what info MS is using to work out who has modded boxes and who has unmodded boxes then there is not a whole lot we can really do.
Post by: Killa420 on November 10, 2004, 10:38:00 AM
On kai, is there a new one out where you dont have to sit at your computer and join games or can you do everything from your xbox? Thats the only good thing I like about live so far.
Post by: admiralj on November 10, 2004, 11:08:00 AM
Post by: Killa420 on November 10, 2004, 01:07:00 PM
| QUOTE (Killa420 @ Nov 10 2004, 03:29 PM) |
| Update here. Still on live as of 6 pm last night which means about 13 hours so far. 160 gig maxtor hd , xenium ice chip, 1.4 halo le box. NEVER used xbox live untill I signed up 5 days ago. Use unleashx which is named to evoxdash.xbe. Have crap all over c:\ & f:\ and played french version before (deleted game / saves / e:\cache) before installing new halo 2. Friends box, 1.0 tsop flashed, split with 4981 bios and original bios. 200 gig maxtor hd, Never singed up for live untill 4 days ago. Uses unleashx and has progs all over c:\ / e:\ and had french version also. We both are still going strong. Although to tell you the truth. I think live is pretty crappy. The way you have to use that matchmaking crap is stupid. I have only gotten to play one team slayer match which ended in like 2 min. The rest is always some stupid bomb or ctf single flag crap. I cant wait for the new xbox connect b/c I have a feeling I will be using that instead of live. Thank god its just a trial. |
As of now, 20 hours, im still fine. Im begining to think they arent scanning hd sizes b/c if they were, i'd be done by now. My friend will test his when he gets home in 2 1/2 hours. I want be entirely sure im safe untill at least a couple of days.
Post by: Master Reefed on November 10, 2004, 02:43:00 PM
Post by: Killa420 on November 10, 2004, 02:45:00 PM
Post by: Fofer on November 10, 2004, 03:10:00 PM
| QUOTE (Killa420 @ Nov 10 2004, 10:10 PM) |
| As of now, 20 hours, im still fine. Im begining to think they arent scanning hd sizes b/c if they were, i'd be done by now. |
Not necessarily. They may not be scanning HD SIZES on their own (ie: banning anyone with >10 GB drives), but rather a looking for a SERIAL NUMBER DISCREPANCY from first XBL login to today. And since you stated that you only logged onto XBL for the first time 5 days ago, with an already modified box, the HDD size matches. A lot of folks were on XBL for months before diving in and modding their box though, and I believe those folks are the ones currently being bitten.
The only wrinkle here is if a user transports their gamertag/XBL account from one machine to another. I believe they are actually scanning for the EEPROM/HDD serial # combo. So if you get a new HDD (and hence a new HDD serial #) but your EEPROM stays the same, you'll be tagged. If you replace your EEPROM and your HDD serial #, you're fine... but this married combo is recorded and if it changes later, you're tagged.
The more reports I see, the more I think this theory is being confirmed. If you modified your Xbox *after* logging into XBL, M$ has a record that your HD has been changed.
Remember that old Gamespot <?> article that said M$ was tracking HDD's that everyone laughed at? Or the SmartXX's "Xbox-Live detection code" announcement from a few months back (that was widely derided) that said M$ was checking HD's to see if they'd been replaced?
Well I think those were true and this week is the payload. They were tracking back then, to compare to today.
Post by: Maverick0984 on November 10, 2004, 06:35:00 PM
Post by: mrjkwik on November 10, 2004, 07:17:00 PM
my question is, how many of you with stock drives have been banned, and if you formatted your drive with slayers?
no, this isnt a slam on slayers.
just wondering if they could be checking the volume id serials on the hdds instead of the manufacturers serial.
sorry to post another "theory". just curious.
Post by: Savejonas on November 10, 2004, 07:24:00 PM
btw, my xbox is now all stock again but I left evoxdash and ini on the c drive, but I was still able to get onto live for my first time.
Post by: datapusher on November 10, 2004, 08:38:00 PM
I followed zodiaks instructions to the T, so I am at a loss now
Any Ideas?
Post by: dalime on November 10, 2004, 09:20:00 PM
Basically, I signed up for Live BEFORE I installed my chip & HDD. I haven't logged in to Live since I put my new HDD in, but I hooked up my stocker (with Evox, Apps, etc.) and have no problem.
Sooooo, if I want to use my new HDD and Live, I will need a new EEPROM to go with the new HDD when I recover my account, no?
Assuming that no one used that EEPROM on Live before, they would look at it as though it were a new EEPROM & HDD to register in their database. (If the current theory is correct)
This sound right to you guys? TIA
Post by: Kaitou_Ace on November 10, 2004, 10:48:00 PM
system that got banned was 1.1 w/ x2.3p with a clean e but c had a few dashes on it. all else is on f.
this comes on the heels of the 1.4 getting banned. my other 3 guys are going to check and let me know tomorrow.
and i was JUST starting to enjoy XBL too...
Post by: admiralj on November 10, 2004, 11:34:00 PM
On many occasions, I have saved my live account onto a mem card and taken it over to a friend's house to play games on live at his place. He himself doesnt have a live acct, but I can log into live from his xbox by using the account on my mem card (by copying the data to his hdd i think). Now IF M$ is banning based on discrepencies between EEPROM/HDD serial #'s from the 1st time i logged into live (on my xbox) from the most recent time i logged into live (on my friend's xbox), how is it that i can login to live just fine from his xbox without seeing any of the "familiar symptoms" of being banned from Live? Further, would appearing on M$'s Live network from my friend's xbox (with his EEPROM/HDD serial #s being sent to M$) jeopardize my friend's xbox in any way should he decide to get a live acct?
Post by: loserkid182 on November 11, 2004, 02:42:00 AM
| QUOTE (Kaitou_Ace @ Nov 11 2004, 07:51 AM) |
| just got banned. system that got banned was 1.1 w/ x2.3p with a clean e but c had a few dashes on it. all else is on f. this comes on the heels of the 1.4 getting banned. my other 3 guys are going to check and let me know tomorrow. and i was JUST starting to enjoy XBL too... |
I seem to have the same problem.
I have a 1.1 with Xenium ICE, just signed onto Live this morning (No Halo 2 yet) and it said no-one was online.
I played FlatOut on it with no probs last night, and not had any probs since I installed the ICE.
i have evox on C: nothing on F: (Stock Drive) and e: has videos on it
I only use the box for Live games and Videos
I use my other Matrix box for backups and more videos
Gits
May be able to swap with a mate an unmodded for my Xenium Box
toypaj
Post by: datapusher on November 11, 2004, 05:39:00 AM
Changed my gamertag, did some modifications and now I'm back on Live. Played a little mechassault then decided to go buy Halo 2.
Played for a while. Logged off took a nap.
I just successfully logged back on and am now going to bed.
I will post exactly what I did when i wake up and since i started the thread I will definatley post if I get rebanned and am back in the same boat as before.
Hopefully it will not come to that.
Post by: Kaitou_Ace on November 11, 2004, 08:39:00 AM
then my wife and i can play sw battlefront together on live. holla backPost by: Kaitou_Ace on November 11, 2004, 08:41:00 AM
Post by: solid7x2 on November 11, 2004, 09:12:00 AM
otherwise your wasting a good eeprom
Post by: Kaitou_Ace on November 11, 2004, 09:49:00 AM
Post by: ruffles_x on November 11, 2004, 10:43:00 AM
| QUOTE (Kaitou_Ace @ Nov 11 2004, 11:44 AM) |
| has anyone tried flashing eeprom and NOT chaning HDD? i really don't want to lose my 160. also, i'm gonna look into the xtender if it's the one that lets me fit 2 hdds in my xbox. |
me in my 2nd xbox, and the xbox got banned again.
then i changed to a fresh eeprom and a clean stock HDD(both never been online before) and im back in live... 72 hours and counting
Thanks and sorry about my bad english
Post by: datapusher on November 11, 2004, 02:24:00 PM
| QUOTE (Kaitou_Ace @ Nov 11 2004, 09:44 AM) |
| has anyone tried flashing eeprom and NOT chaning HDD? i really don't want to lose my 160. also, i'm gonna look into the xtender if it's the one that lets me fit 2 hdds in my xbox. |
Yup.
just for shits and giggles, I kept the same hard drive in, flashed the bios to read everything from F instead of C. Moved all non MS signed crap to F and deleted all the xblive updates and unknown items in my memory.
I changed the eeprom and gave it a wirl. I was able to play for a few hours last night. Passed out and woke up around 6am and played a few games. Woke up this afternoon talked to a guy online and when I went to sign on, `the dreaded cannot connect message and after I went and troubleshot the connection. i was banned again for modification.
This leads me to believe that they do have the HD serial listed in their db. Or that they check for any changes in the HD from when you first logged on to live. if this is the case, my only issue was that I had bought a used xbox that the original had been used on live before I got it. And by adding a new hard drive and signing into live, there was a number mismatch and I was flagged.
So the next step is to see if i can play with my stock hard drive and a new EEprom. keep in mind this hard drive was used on live before I bought the Xbox. So this is just a test. All it costs me is $8 and a gamertag which I got from the Halo2 case.
If I happen to be banned with this test I will put in a stock Hard Drive that has never been on live and flash it with another eeprom (anyone wanna donate one? NTSC). And if i am banned on a virgin stock hard drive and with the mod chip off. The only possible conclusion I could come up with at this point in time would be that MS has found a way to detect the modchip even while off.
Post by: uk-hitman on November 11, 2004, 02:37:00 PM
And a Happy band we are . Have also sent a cracking email to there support calling them everything under the sun .
My xbox aint modded but has a 10gb drive in it because the old disk was making one hell of a noise . Thus Micro$oft calls it a mod .
I cant understand why some of you are going out and buying a new xbox to play Halo2 , you are falling right into there trap ..
I must question the fact that M$ can examine your HDD with information on it , Im sure there must be some kink of law against this ..Im sick fed up of them thinking they are god .
I m not buying another xbox but away to get a new PS2 v2 screw U M$ ...
Sorry lads rant over
Oh and Hi to all . sorry my first post has to be such a rant agains Micro$oft
Post by: maxipad1982 on November 11, 2004, 04:54:00 PM
which i've never had b4. and now thats happening ALOT!
Post by: moksi on November 11, 2004, 06:48:00 PM
i have read this entire thred and have no idea what M$ is doing but i want to throw out what my xbox is doing because i am not banned and just about everything i have done would say that i should be.
i have had the same xb for a while (v1.0) and i played live with free trials back in january and again in march (2 separate trials, 2 separate gamertags, same xb). so i had been playing on live with a completely stock xb for about 4 months (ending in april). i just recently modded my xb with a x3 and played french halo 2 for a little while. the day i got halo 2 i swapped for a seagate 80gig.
(i backed everything up from my xb, reformatted the drive using x3's awsome disk manager thing, and it allowed extra space on my F: drive, i then copied stock stuff back to the new 80 gig and put XBMC and some games on the F: partition. all the other drives are stock (i think) and i made brand new UDATA, TDATA, CACHE folders. i played halo 1, just to get something in the cache folder, and started up XBMC, just to make sure everything worked still.)
i then went and picked up halo 2. i came home set up my xbl account (from a 1 year starter kit i bought about 1 year ago and never set up) and signed on and played a couple games. i didnt play for most of the 9th until night and i played for about 3 hours, i then didnt play for almost all of the 10th when my roomate signed on (with another account he made using the 2 month trial) and he got on fine and played for about 1 hour. as far as i know i am still not banned but i will come back and let everyone know if i am.
with my setup this kinda disproves that you cant be on live b4 you mod, and also that you cant have a bigger hd. unless i just havent been banned yet. but ive been on for 3 days now and have had no problems.
just thought id share what i got.
Post by: Kaitou_Ace on November 11, 2004, 07:48:00 PM
the 2 that were banned both had files on c. however, 2 that were not also had files on c. the fifth had just reformatted all partitions.
the only common factor between the 2 banned machines that seems to have made the difference was the HDDs. both systems that were banned had previously used live within the last 2 months on older HDDs.
any questions about my 5 let me know. if you skipped the pages, i did post the specs on all 5 machines a few pages back.
Post by: Kaitou_Ace on November 12, 2004, 10:52:00 PM
the 2 that were banned both had files on c. however, 2 that were not also had files on c. the fifth had just reformatted all partitions.
the only common factor between the 2 banned machines that seems to have made the difference was the HDDs. both systems that were banned had previously used live within the last 2 months on older HDDs.
any questions about my 5 let me know. if you skipped the pages, i did post the specs on all 5 machines a few pages back.
Post by: Master Reefed on November 15, 2004, 04:40:00 AM
I havnt been banned yet. but now they'll prolly hunt me down after writing this
I have another BOX already softmodded, if one of the mods wanna PM me, I am willing to experiment with it.
btw... I deleted all traces (files) associated with any modifications Before actually signing in with HALO 2. Basicly a virgin BOX,filewise...if that helps any.
Post by: KTM666 on November 16, 2004, 09:28:00 AM
Post by: KTM666 on November 16, 2004, 09:31:00 AM
| QUOTE (Kaitou_Ace @ Nov 13 2004, 07:48 AM) |
| both systems that were banned had previously used live within the last 2 months on older HDDs. |
Just read your post, it can actually be this one. I don't remember exactly but I do think I had the older hd on when I connected to Live a year ago, and now I tried to connect with the new one. Anyway I'm not getting the "mod xbox" error but that other "can't find xbox live" shit...
Post by: balugabutt on November 17, 2004, 02:23:00 PM
I have a 1.1 xbox with a 1.0 eeprom because my 1.0 went bad and the HD was locked so I had to flash the new one with the old eeprom.
It has an X2.3b Pro with the wire install. The newest Evox BIOS and a 60gig IBM locked HD. All the evox files are on the C: drive.
I have NEVER been on live. If someone has a 2 week trial they would like to let me use then I will test and see if I get banned. I will even pay something for the trial.
I would have to look on my PC but I think I have another virgin eeprom and I know I have an extra stock HD that did not come with this XBox.
If one of the people trying ti figure this out wants me to try anything special. I am more then willing. I want to figure this out before christmas so I can buy Halo 2 for my son and not have him banned.
Let me know...
just checked and I DO have the virgin eeprom...
This post has been edited by balugabutt: Nov 17 2004, 10:25 PM
Post by: Devil Fire on November 18, 2004, 09:32:00 PM
I've been playing Live for a long time now with a modded box.
Modchip: Xenium ICE 2.01 BIOS
XECUTER2 BIOS
w/ Evox installed
20Gig WD HDD
As long as I booted up with the TSOP BIOS on my modchip I was able to play on Live. After Halo 2 came out that changed. I was banned.
After I was banned I switched my HDD to a WD 15 Gig HDD with a new Eeprom.
I formatted the drive and updated Live. I was back on Live. Stayed on for 5 min. then turned off the system. Went back the next day to check......banned! This was still using the TSOP BIOS and the HDD had no Evox or modded files on it. It was stock EXCEPT for it being 15 Gigs. I also have after XBOX that is totally stock and I"m still getting on just fine on that one. They are checking for your HDD size and mod files. Your HDD must be either a 8 or 10 Gig HDD. I'm going to try and find another Eeprom (if someone can help find one that would be helpful) and unlock an old stock 8 gig WD HDD from a different XBOX and see if it works. I'll let all of you know asap.
Post by: Realm Lord on November 18, 2004, 10:33:00 PM
Edit: I upgraded the HD several months before live 2.0 came out. I did play on live on my stock hdd with evox on E: for a while. Never had it on C:
This post has been edited by Realm Lord: Nov 19 2004, 06:35 AM
Post by: sarisn on December 05, 2004, 04:48:00 AM
| QUOTE (cloudjoe @ Nov 9 2004, 09:14 AM) |
| Since (As far as I know) Xecuter is the biggest chip maker of them all. Maybe its the combo of Xecuter 2 + Larger HDD? Anyone banned with a different chip? Thier system? So that $300 for the system and $50 for XBLive must have just been a charitible donation to the poor Gates family then huh? Last I checked you could actually do what you want with the things you own. I never tried to cheat on XBLive, and I hope that there is never a way to do so. So give me a break |
It's obvious that u don't get it right. MS is banning ppl because they have modified their console. They dont care how. What they care about is that u and many others play about 50 games (or more) with ur bigger HD without buying the games. So what u say about not cheated in Live doesnt mean anything. You cheated by modifying ur console so end of story. Ur wrong and u know it. I'm very glad i didnt modified mine 2 years i own it so it looks like i'll continue to play in Live with the same xbox and no extra cash spent.
Post by: Kopite_84 on December 05, 2004, 10:16:00 AM
| QUOTE (FlashKick @ Dec 5 2004, 06:25 PM) |
| where did you buy this game??? is it the pal release? if it is, how were you able to boot it up it from your original bios?? it sucks that the us release got delayed sooo damn long.. |
There is no region lock on this game. Works on any XBOX worldwide.
Post by: Xbox Maniax on December 05, 2004, 10:21:00 AM
Post by: modeststud on December 15, 2004, 12:27:00 AM
Well, I'd read that if you mod your box before you get your live account (so that all the parts have the same SN as they did from the beginning of the account), you shouldn't be banned as long as you keep the install stealth (everything is in F:), lock the HD, and keep the chip off when you get on live.
Well, I played Halo 2 for a couple hours last night on Live. Today, I tried to load it up & I'm banned. Guess I'm gonna have to shell out another $150 on an xbox that will probably have the same crap Thompson DVD that my other 2 that have broken will have.
Post by: link13233 on March 30, 2005, 06:42:00 PM
Post by: link13233 on March 30, 2005, 06:47:00 PM
Post by: datapusher on March 30, 2005, 07:35:00 PM
QUOTE(link13233 @ Mar 30 2005, 05:48 PM)
hey whats beter mods or live please tell because i have a mod chip and did not put it in yet but if live is beter ill stay like that?
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Title: Nov 8th, Xbox Live Ban Day
Post by: funey grunts on April 16, 2005, 05:04:00 PM
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Title: Nov 8th, Xbox Live Ban Day
Post by: josurr on June 01, 2005, 03:10:00 PM
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got banned today...
i think it was b/c i was running h2 off of the hdd and tried to sign in
anyway my xbox:
v1.4
x3 3284 bios
x3CP
200 gig maxtor (no G partition tho)
stock samsung dvd-rom
g/t: JorgeHWB
currently in process of buying eeprom from Zodiiak
could anyone help me with a solid way of installing new eeprom (so i dont pooch my xbox completely?)
also, any tips on keeping myself from getting banned once i install new eeprom?
thanks,
josurr
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Title: Nov 8th, Xbox Live Ban Day
Post by: datapusher on June 01, 2005, 03:18:00 PM
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Post by: funey grunts on April 16, 2005, 05:04:00 PM
Post by: josurr on June 01, 2005, 03:10:00 PM
i think it was b/c i was running h2 off of the hdd and tried to sign in
anyway my xbox:
v1.4
x3 3284 bios
x3CP
200 gig maxtor (no G partition tho)
stock samsung dvd-rom
g/t: JorgeHWB
currently in process of buying eeprom from Zodiiak
could anyone help me with a solid way of installing new eeprom (so i dont pooch my xbox completely?)
also, any tips on keeping myself from getting banned once i install new eeprom?
thanks,
josurr
Post by: datapusher on June 01, 2005, 03:18:00 PM
QUOTE(josurr @ Jun 1 2005, 03:21 PM)
got banned today...
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Title: Nov 8th, Xbox Live Ban Day
Post by: lordvader129 on June 01, 2005, 03:52:00 PM
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youll need a new HDD too, they ban those nowadays as well
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Title: Nov 8th, Xbox Live Ban Day
Post by: josurr on June 01, 2005, 11:31:00 PM
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is there anyway to change the serial to the hdd in the same way that i change the eeprom?
if need be, i can swap the 200 for a 250 i still have in a box that i was going to use for a mythtv backend server
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Title: Nov 8th, Xbox Live Ban Day
Post by: lordvader129 on June 01, 2005, 11:46:00 PM
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Post by: lordvader129 on June 01, 2005, 03:52:00 PM
Post by: josurr on June 01, 2005, 11:31:00 PM
if need be, i can swap the 200 for a 250 i still have in a box that i was going to use for a mythtv backend server
Post by: lordvader129 on June 01, 2005, 11:46:00 PM
QUOTE(josurr @ Jun 2 2005, 01:42 AM)
is there anyway to change the serial to the hdd in the same way that i change the eeprom?
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Title: Nov 8th, Xbox Live Ban Day
Post by: HL_101 on June 02, 2005, 12:05:00 AM
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Because your game tag is flagged BANNED!
MS will look for a non org HD in your xbox if you connect with it.
So if you use a new org hd no new gamer tag is needed.
Try hit the search button next time....
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Title: Nov 8th, Xbox Live Ban Day
Post by: 6022xbox on June 04, 2005, 03:33:00 AM
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I got a new xbox never on live, upgraded hdd, went on with new gamertag no problems for a week or so, then recovered my old gamertag that had been used on a previously banned hdd and I was xbox banned within 48 hours.
So use a stock drive me thinks.
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Title: Nov 8th, Xbox Live Ban Day
Post by: mystical on June 25, 2005, 10:20:00 PM
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Well I dont have time to go into the details of what I am running as far as bios and whatnot, but I can tell you that I was playing halo 2 all day yesterday. Went to the beach all day today came home and tryed to play XBL Halo 2 and cannot join at all. I checked to see if I still had a connection with my computer and all is well. I guess it was my time to be banned this time. Off hand I do know i have a SmartXX with a 120gb HD. um i think the bios is 49XX something or 48XX. Was told it was the most stable so wichever one that is. Oh well this really blows. Ill be back tomorrow with the other info. Thanks in advance for all the reseach and work you guys are sure to put in to this subject.
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Title: Nov 8th, Xbox Live Ban Day
Post by: bontke on June 29, 2005, 11:03:00 AM
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So this loks like the rules for playing on XBL:
1.) Don't sign on to XBL with mod chip on
2.) If your xbox has ever been used on XBL before, you must stay with that HD
and EEPROM combo.
3.)Using a previsouly banned gamerTag on a large HD will result in having the
xbox banned again. Must use banned GT on stock xbox HD's.
4.)If yoru xbox hads a large HD and has never been on XBL, then creating a new
gamertag will allow you to be on XBL safely (with modchip off).
5.)If you want to switch to a large HD on an xbox that has been on XBL before,
you will need to get a new EEPROM to go with the large HD.
Sound right?
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Title: Nov 8th, Xbox Live Ban Day
Post by: lordvader129 on June 29, 2005, 11:37:00 AM
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Post by: HL_101 on June 02, 2005, 12:05:00 AM
MS will look for a non org HD in your xbox if you connect with it.
So if you use a new org hd no new gamer tag is needed.
Try hit the search button next time....
Post by: 6022xbox on June 04, 2005, 03:33:00 AM
So use a stock drive me thinks.
Post by: mystical on June 25, 2005, 10:20:00 PM
Post by: bontke on June 29, 2005, 11:03:00 AM
1.) Don't sign on to XBL with mod chip on
2.) If your xbox has ever been used on XBL before, you must stay with that HD
and EEPROM combo.
3.)Using a previsouly banned gamerTag on a large HD will result in having the
xbox banned again. Must use banned GT on stock xbox HD's.
4.)If yoru xbox hads a large HD and has never been on XBL, then creating a new
gamertag will allow you to be on XBL safely (with modchip off).
5.)If you want to switch to a large HD on an xbox that has been on XBL before,
you will need to get a new EEPROM to go with the large HD.
Sound right?
Post by: lordvader129 on June 29, 2005, 11:37:00 AM
QUOTE(bontke @ Jun 29 2005, 01:14 PM)
So this loks like the rules for playing on XBL:
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Title: Nov 8th, Xbox Live Ban Day
Post by: 6022xbox on June 30, 2005, 10:50:00 AM
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Post by: 6022xbox on June 30, 2005, 10:50:00 AM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Jun 29 2005, 07:48 PM)
i wish everyone would read and comprehend as well as you, that is a perfect summary