Post by: bluewoodz on October 14, 2004, 06:35:00 PM
I dont know why i got banned this time. other than they scanned me.
Maybe had my gamertag marked.
Post by: shanafan on October 14, 2004, 08:51:00 PM
Post by: Optimus on October 14, 2004, 08:56:00 PM
Edit: Is there something we could have done when flashing our eeproms that would have caused a problem?
This post has been edited by Optimus on Oct 15 2004, 04:03 AM
Post by: Matarick on October 14, 2004, 09:06:00 PM
Thank god I didn't have the live checking devices or I would of been whipped.
Well another unusual thing is that Avalaunch isn't doing the streaming news stories on the dashboard yet Media Player seems to be fine on the news lead streaming.
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Post by: X2Gamer on October 14, 2004, 09:13:00 PM
Post by: Tsharkou on October 14, 2004, 09:36:00 PM
Post by: Lord Magnus on October 14, 2004, 10:56:00 PM
Let me know.
Post by: Modiller on October 15, 2004, 01:27:00 AM
fucking MS :grr:
Post by: Mekapo on October 15, 2004, 01:59:00 AM
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=289786
Post by: wlinwo1 on October 15, 2004, 06:22:00 AM
Post by: swervf4 on October 15, 2004, 10:12:00 AM
I am now looking for another 1.6 eeprom to reflash, does anyone have one that is unbanned for 1.6 version xbox?
thanks!
Post by: Mekapo on October 15, 2004, 11:37:00 AM
| QUOTE (swervf4 @ Oct 15 2004, 08:12 AM) |
| All I can remember is that I went to my friends house and copied FIFA 2005 on to my xbox hard drive, played the game by loading it from my hdd.. |
This also happend to me when attempting to play FIFA 2005. There were no updates for Xbox Live in the past few days. I had been playing the PAL version of Fifa 2k5 for a month or so and then purchased the NTSC version this past wednesday. I played quite a few games on Live on wednesday, and then when attempting to sign on to Live via FIFA 2k5 last night I was then banned. Could FIFA be responsible maybe...?
-Mekapo
Post by: Xbs1 on October 15, 2004, 11:46:00 AM
Post by: oswald on October 15, 2004, 11:57:00 AM
Just out of curiousity... do you guys yell or swear alot while playing? No need to answer, but that is also a bannable offense on Live if you read the ToU agreement.
Or perhaps one of the live aware games connected when you didnt notice... it happens to the best of us, thats why i've been running a BIOS that blocks live while the mod chip is on, it's fool proof.
This post has been edited by oswald on Oct 15 2004, 08:08 PM
Post by: blingbling on October 15, 2004, 11:02:00 AM
Post by: bigslickak on October 15, 2004, 01:17:00 PM
Post by: Mekapo on October 15, 2004, 01:53:00 PM
Post by: Xbs1 on October 15, 2004, 01:58:00 PM
About the only other thing I can think of is that my eeprom got sold to someone else who played what they weren't supposed to, and it nabbed us both. I didn't go near the game we cannot mention here, so I am not sure what's going on here.
Has someone tried to re-unban themselves with another eeprom and gotten back on successfully?
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Post by: sakuraix on October 15, 2004, 02:28:00 PM
Post by: Xbs1 on October 15, 2004, 02:42:00 PM
Post by: sludem on October 15, 2004, 03:33:00 PM
Post by: sludem on October 15, 2004, 03:34:00 PM
Post by: sakuraix on October 15, 2004, 03:45:00 PM
| QUOTE (sludem @ Oct 15 2004, 11:36 PM) |
| dont lash out at me im just guessing like the rest of you if you guys have any ideas feel free to share also have you ever been ban before do you have a bigger hard drive and did you play any of those ea games before you got banned |
I was banned before, like a month ago, by accidentally loading the MS dash while UDE was installed. I have nothing else in my Xbox, no bigger hard drive, TSOP, or anything. I haven't even opened my Xbox. Now I'm banned again. UDE was uninstalled, and I was disconnected while I was uninstalling it. And I was playing Rallisport Challenge 2, the first game I played on Live since my first ban, and that is in no way related to EA.
Post by: sludem on October 15, 2004, 04:04:00 PM
well theres another thing we could add to the list ude i also have that on my xbox so did a few of my friends but who knows guessing again 
keep your strorys coming guys mabe we could find a link and get to the bottom of this
Post by: Maverick923 on October 15, 2004, 04:07:00 PM
Post by: swervf4 on October 15, 2004, 04:24:00 PM
Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on October 15, 2004, 04:58:00 PM
if you could post who you are buying from... its a long shot... but just another possability to mark off the list.
i got a large hard drive and xecuter and play splinter cell almost every night... no problems here.
Post by: GamezMan on October 15, 2004, 05:25:00 PM
Here my story
I'v been online for about 5 months playing regularly,, have big hdd and exe 2.3b lite.. been chiping and messing with xbox for 2 years... was using the x2_4983. diable live sing in bios before 2nd BAN
Just ova A week ago i was trying out the m8 bios to see if it was any good.... i was testing it with starwars battlefront and when testing in-game-reset i think maby it tryed to connect to live (after testing bios i put the x2_4983 bios back on.... then a few days later i tryed to sign in and i was BANNED... i was sure the NC was not in when trying the m8 bios thing but i was not 100% so i put it down to that...
Anyway got eprom of a freind (so i know no1 else has\had that eprom) flashed it last friday, things was fine BUT now i just tryed to sign in (frii 15 oct 04 11.30pm-ish) and im BANNED AGIAN twice in just ova a week. and i DEFINATLY DIDNT SIGN IN WITH CHIP ON...,what i did do yesterday was try Avalaunch for the 1st time yesterday and i clicked all the update things and it connected then updated... (but from readin other posts i dont think theres a link there) thats all i did and im fu*%ing BANNED AGAIN !!!
I can get another eprom anytime but im not gonna bother risk wastin it...
Post by: Maverick923 on October 15, 2004, 06:22:00 PM
Post by: bobzmuda on October 15, 2004, 06:55:00 PM
No pre-release French software. No getting online when the chip was disabled, I have the 4981 bios to prevent that from happening.
I have a large hd (80gb) with the c/f boot so that when I boot with the chip off, the M$ Dash can't see my F drive.
I was banned a month or 2 ago while being a dumbass. Installed new eeprom and everything worked great until yesterday.
I also got the "Could not connect error" error immediately when I tried to troubleshoot my connection. This is unlike the first time I was banned when it took a good bit before it returned the "could not connect error"
I also have an xecutor 2.3b+ lite.
From what I can tell from what I have in common with all the other recent banees, the banning has something to do with checking who was previously banned.
Post by: Orangey on October 15, 2004, 07:18:00 PM
Yet another proof positive of my "theory" MS is going after people who have been banned once and have replaced their EEPROMs.
Post by: bobzmuda on October 15, 2004, 07:26:00 PM
| QUOTE (Modiller @ Oct 16 2004, 03:26 AM) |
| your theories incorect because I was banned and had never replaced my eeprom |
Tell us more about your setup. Large HD? What's your BIOS? Any special setups on your BIOS? What games on Live do you play? etc. etc.
BTW, MS could be banning for multiple reasons, so just because you haven't been banned before doesn't mean MS isn't also banning for that reason in addition to a reason that would apply to you.
Post by: Orangey on October 15, 2004, 07:37:00 PM
| QUOTE (Modiller @ Oct 15 2004, 07:26 PM) |
| your theories incorect because I was banned and had never replaced my eeprom |
Well pin a "Dumbass" medal on you....Nah J/K mate
They may be banning multiple ways, just too early to tell. But almost 12 people in this thread have been banned in the past 48 hours. All of them replaced their EEPROM at some time or another. Good Day.
Post by: Jully on October 15, 2004, 08:26:00 PM
| QUOTE (Tsharkou @ Oct 15 2004, 04:11 AM) |
| This happened to me....infact I got an email from M$ stating that my account had been permanentlt closed. here it is.... Do not respond to this email address. It is not monitored. This email is to notify you that your Xbox Live account has been permanently cancelled due to violations of the Xbox Live Terms of Use and Code of Conduct. Xbox Live expects that all customers abide by the Xbox Live Terms of Use and Code of Conduct. These documents provide the guidelines for appropriate activity and behavior while playing on the Xbox Live service. You can view the Terms of Use and Code of Conduct from the Xbox Live Dashboard under Xbox Live Policies in Account Management, or by visiting http://www.xbox.com/.../termsofuse.htm. If you have any questions regarding the Xbox Live Code of Conduct, please contact Xbox Customer Support. Thank you Xbox Live Community Management team |
that might have been because too many people gave you negative feedback
Post by: Lord Magnus on October 15, 2004, 09:57:00 PM
| QUOTE (Orangey @ Oct 16 2004, 03:21 AM) |
| Yet another proof positive of my "theory" MS is going after people who have been banned once and have replaced their EEPROMs. |
Thath is a pretty good theory... If I had to choose wich one of all the possibilities mentioned over here could get you banned, besides having you're chip on, but I believe you all in that.... having the experience of getting banned makes you chek twice before going online.
Anyways.. if I had to choose one from the whole bunch.. I'd have to agree with Orangey... makes sence.
So let me get this straight... NONE and I mean absolutley NONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT GOT BANNED in this period of time we're talkinga about, had a... let's say "virgin" eeprom of their own? the one that came with your one and only xbox when you bought it?
Keep on posting... we'll see what's going on.
Post by: Optimus on October 15, 2004, 10:37:00 PM
Post by: Mekapo on October 16, 2004, 10:30:00 AM
| QUOTE (dcartello13 @ Oct 16 2004, 06:34 AM) |
| Gonna have to buy a fresh xbox and not do jack to it. it will be just my XLive box! |
ya thats what im gonna do. Its not too bad a deal really. W/that new bundle we get 2 games Top Spin ($20) and NCAA 2k5 ($40), both of which are live compatible, and a new controller ($30). So in essence ur paying 60 bux for a brand new headache free xbox live experience. Seems like a decent price to me, considering all the games I havn't had to buy due to mr modchip
Post by: TheSandman87 on October 16, 2004, 11:06:00 AM
Post by: GamezMan on October 16, 2004, 11:26:00 AM
But My freind and I think that MS are banning boxes based on new eprom but SAME MAC Address ..
...because seeing as iv been banned twice in just ove a week..how do MS know whether ir not that the 2nd time i had a new xbox but put same bigger hdd in it ??? surly they wouldn't be banning ppl for that... so we think it must be the MAC address...
And yes i am p***ed at MS for this... if i had tryed to go online with chip on then yes,, but i didnt but along with all these other ppl im banned for no-good reason.... an i bet the PPL WHO DO HAVE A PIRATE HALO2 ON THEIR BOXES ARNIT BANNED...
MS Suks
Post by: newbreed on October 16, 2004, 03:56:00 PM
Is it possible for LIVE to determine that a connetion is made to allow something to boot from the LPC's? Possibly the D0 connection?
I only mention this because i am banned as well. I just reflashed my eeprom about 4 days ago and played online. I have a 1.1 xbox, SmartXXv2 with LCD and a Seagate 250gb drive. Since ive installed the LCD, when I boot the original bios from the chip, i still get the custom text on my LCd so I am thinking its possible that xbox live may "pulse" the LPC's or D0 to see if a "alternitave" bios option is available, then ban. Just a guess at this, since my custom text is still available and the light on this chip is on, TECHNICALLY the chip is on. That means ALOT of chips are still on. My old Matrix had a light that comes one EVEN when its "off" and my SmartXX v1 did the same. SInce it obviously is powered, is it under attck from micro$oft? If it is, I think it violates our rights to a extent, but M$ may hide under the "modified software on Xbox Live sh*t."
Ive also thought about the Halo 2 possibility. I admit ive done some research into it, but i dont want to ruin the suprise by playing it in French so I am a faithful Halo fan and waiting for the official release. Is it possible M$ has collected IP's for "marked" xbox uilites and banned those from the system? Its a longshot, but I wouldnt be suprised!
Another thoery, no longer thought to be a longshot....
Since most of us store our thirdparty applications on the F drive where M$ cannot find it, there is configuration files for some of these apps on the E: drive with the saved games. Even the cache drives have information from some dashboards. Ive always been curious as to when they were going to look for these. We spend alot of time and effort to keep these software somewhere else than on the C and E partition, but they still leave their mark. Even alot of dashboards themselves store info on the C partition right next to the XboxDash.xbe! Could be a number of things I guess. Maybe the smartxx team that found the HD check needs to look again at the recent code.
If thats true, I would like to PERSONALLY thank the person that released Halo 2 on the internet by saying, "THANKS FOR RUINING IT FOR ALL OF US!"
Post by: newbreed on October 16, 2004, 04:23:00 PM
As i checked my email, I have a message from MS asking me to update my billing information, not related to the other email that was found in a earlier post. As I scrolled through it, they send a download! I enclosed a pic of the .css file that was sent to me by MS.
Maybe unrelated, but I can send this file to you if you wish, or forward this email to yours. Just PM me.
Post by: GameAngel on October 16, 2004, 05:02:00 PM
I cant use my save games now, anyone know why?
Post by: A.Z.BEST on October 16, 2004, 06:21:00 PM
.GameAngel: you can't use your game saves, because the gs's are binded to consoles EEPROM. If you get yourself unbanned, you change the EEPROM, which actually means that you change your consoles serial number and few more things. So the console is not more your past xbox. The gs's are binded to the previous EEPROM- console...
Post by: TheSandman87 on October 16, 2004, 08:34:00 PM
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH-BGates."Post by: Maverick923 on October 16, 2004, 08:53:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| i fear that M$ is finally on its way to catching us all...only time will tell if we all will be banned permanitly from xbl...THE END IS NEAR!!! " MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH-BGates." |
1. Catching us doing what?
2. Dont say things like that, you will jinx us.
3. One more thing
| QUOTE |
| Just to clear things. I have never been ban until yesterday. My box has been fixed and running legit games on live for about a year, and no I have no stock. $1.20 is nice to have. |
Post by: newbreed on October 16, 2004, 10:27:00 PM
Resist the modding tempation and use it for live. My Xbox in the living room will never see live again. Im tired of reflashing the eeprom and with whats goin on now it doesnt look like its gonna work anymore anyway.
Maybe XBL is purposely banning people. Via the terms of service for xbox live a modchip violates the TOS. So we had a good run! Wait for the new technology in modchips and try again!
Post by: nikeskateboarding.net on October 17, 2004, 09:17:00 AM
Post by: Mannequin on October 17, 2004, 04:27:00 PM
| QUOTE (nikeskateboarding.net @ Oct 17 2004, 05:20 PM) |
| Is anyone that is being banned have a smartxx chip ? |
Nope, i've got a chameleon.
Post by: GLiTcH on October 17, 2004, 09:35:00 PM
Post by: GLiTcH on October 17, 2004, 11:17:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mekapo @ Oct 17 2004, 11:39 PM) |
| where is that sweet deal at? I'll pick one up at that price for sure. |
my friend works at ezpawn
i'm going tomorrow to go get it, hope its not too late
Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on October 18, 2004, 04:54:00 AM
| QUOTE (TheArtist @ Oct 18 2004, 12:20 PM) |
| Well its not the games that are causing this because, I played SWBF on XBOX Live about 2 weeks ago and I had no problems. Then all of the sudden I go to play it the other day and I find out that I am banned. |
ok, well you dont get banned instantly.. so that game isnt ruled out.
however, i play it on xbc and i still play xbox live on a daily basis.
kinda odd though... i was on splinter cell, and a friend came in saying he got booted and it said "you are already signed in on another xbox" or something similar... so i went to invite him to the game he was already in, and the whole room got booted and issued that message... had to resign into xbox live... no ban as of yet though.
odd shit going on... gonna be scared to play halo 2 when i get home at 12:02 on november 9th. scared my xbox will explode. its gotta be related.
Post by: TheArtist on October 18, 2004, 07:09:00 AM
| QUOTE (Mannequin @ Oct 18 2004, 09:03 AM) |
| I've been a victim of these "new" bannings and I've never played SWB, so I think that clearly rules it out at least as being the only game/factor to have impact. |
I agree Mannequin, I just do not think that the GAMES themselves are getting us banned. I think that MS is somehow scanning for modchips or flashed TSOPs and simply busting people. As I said before I think that they are pissed about HALO 2 and this is their revenge against all of us "pirates".
Post by: solid7x2 on October 18, 2004, 11:58:00 AM
In my personal opinion, (which may be really extreme but not impossible) M$ is freakin pissed off about the french software situation. It is possible they set up a small team of people dedicated solely to banning 'hackers' from live. This can include hacked software of any kind, re-used eproms, french software, large hard drives... basically anything of this nature... even taking gamer tags from sites like this and scrutinizing these accounts.
this may seem a little crazy, but its not impossible is it?
ps. not banned yet, but assuming its coming soon for reason im not going to say (and im removing my name from sig).
Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on October 19, 2004, 02:10:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| Xbox Live security The Xbox Live team has noticed and received reports from the Xbox Live community about users connecting to the Xbox Live service using modified Xbox consoles. In most cases, these users have used the modifications to gain an unfair advantage over other players, such as racing modified, faster cars in Project Gotham Racing 2. By doing this, users are breaking the Terms of Use that must be agreed to when a gamertag is created. The Xbox Live team will not tolerate this unfair activity and have taken steps to protect our community from this cheating. Xbox Live has recently initiated additional security measures to ensure that those connecting to Xbox Live with modified hardware will be removed from the system. Modified consoles will be banned, and information about those banned machines will be tracked to prevent them from connecting to the service again. Its important to the Xbox Live team that we work to provide an environment that is free of cheating and gives all players an opportunity to compete fairly online, and that's why I wanted to ensure that the community knows this. Xbox Live constantly monitors for users attempting to bypass security measures and gain unfair advantages over other players, and will take additional action as needed. |
im sure this is a major part in the banning outbreak... especially to try and keep the halo 2 servers clean for when it comes out.
so maybe its a good thing, as long as i dont get banned and only the people who think they can get away with going on live with a chip enabled do... but im sure there will be many casualties that dont deserve to lose their accounts.
it really pisses me off though that people have to cheat...im pretty much furious over this whole thing.
Post by: blackout_19 on October 19, 2004, 03:53:00 AM
Post by: smack_blitz on October 19, 2004, 04:12:00 AM
Which one of the two are more likely to be booked by M$??
Any of the recently banned individuals happen to use a xenium ice? should i be worried?
Post by: A.Z.BEST on October 19, 2004, 04:23:00 AM
Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on October 19, 2004, 04:44:00 AM
i know you are doing your best to get this thing under wraps..
and i for one appreiciate it..
its just so hard to get information straight with some ppl.
i for one, use xbmc, i have save games for unleashX on my hard drive, use live on a regular basis, havent used xbox connect in a long while, play battlefront backup (never put update or dashupdate.xbe on my hard drive or game backup disc)
played all the new games...
and my account seems ok. not a problem.
i however HAVE NOT attempted to or thought about downloading H2... maybe these people have and thats how this is happening and they are just afraid to say so.
im suprised none of the mods have any insight on this.
Post by: Lord Magnus on October 19, 2004, 11:21:00 AM
One more thing... I tried to log in xbox Live yesterday to check who was online and they have you registering your box serial number, name, and bunch of crap... you think that has something to do also?
Post by: dbldown768 on October 19, 2004, 11:35:00 AM
Now i also have ESPN NFL 2k5, and NHL2k5, both of which i have played on XBL, no problems - MOD OFF. I also have one of the other so called problem games Madden 2005, which i have played with mod on.
Anytime i run a backup i have the MOD on (obvious) but whenever i run a retail i have the MOD off( not matter what im playing XBL or XLink)
I've havent been banned at all - and shouldnt be because i havent violated any rules.
I think its a bit more involved than games causing problems. Also i tried the password trick as of late, and then powered up the SW:BF game and it never tried to sign me in before the game started. I always have to do that myself.
On a side note, i have noticed 1 time when i updated a game on XBL, it changed my autosign in to enabled. have no idea why that happend. but i caught the change and switched it back. So anytime you get an XBL update ALWAYS check to make sure your sign in is still disabled.
Post by: GamezMan on October 19, 2004, 09:57:00 PM
| QUOTE (Lord Magnus @ Oct 19 2004, 07:24 PM) |
| check it out. One more thing... I tried to log in xbox Live yesterday to check who was online and they have you registering your box serial number, name, and bunch of crap... you think that has something to do also? |
WHAT !!! ??? so u have to manualy type in ur name and details when u sign on to live ????? PLEASE EXPLAIN IN MORE DETAIL !
Also that links not working ! what did it say
TheArtist, where did u get that story from plz post link .....
Post by: sakuraix on October 19, 2004, 11:16:00 PM
Post by: TheArtist on October 20, 2004, 04:27:00 AM
| QUOTE (sakuraix @ Oct 20 2004, 01:19 AM) |
| Man, f*** it. I am getting a new Xbox to play on Live with, and keep it stock. I'll just mod the hell out of my old one and use it to play backups and DVDs, it's already been banned three times anyway. I'm planning on getting a Halo Xbox. Might as well have a special edition if I'm going to have two Xboxes. This Live ordeal is pissing me off. I'll see all of you on Live come Halo2 time in November. Hopefully, this thing will blow over by then. |
I'm with you Sakuraix that's exactly what I plan to do also...this seems like waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy too much time and trouble!
Post by: GamezMan on October 20, 2004, 10:28:00 AM
Post by: kakelkund on October 20, 2004, 12:01:00 PM
I think the reason for resent banning could be spelled "GAMEHACKING"! You can find a number of the banned ppl in this thread:
PGR2 hacking and this: Hacking Ghost Recon Maps
Post by: Fofer on October 20, 2004, 02:19:00 PM
| QUOTE (knodi @ Oct 17 2004, 11:37 PM) |
| I was banned too. The strange thing is I haven't been on LIVE in a month. I haven't even turn on my Xbox in a month. I strated play the "french leaked pal version of a spicel game" and today when I tryed to sigin to LIVE I was banned. I have a x2_4981.06 bios, Maxtor 60Harddrive, and runing Avalaunch/EvoX. Using X-B.I.T modchip. I my gamertag is not banned but my Xbox is banned. Because I can still sign on LIVE with my friends unmodded Xbox. |
knodi - when you played the french game, was your ethernet cable plugged in or not? Your situation may help shed some light.
Post by: John Hoek on October 21, 2004, 03:04:00 AM
Xbox Live security
The Xbox Live team has noticed and received reports from the Xbox Live community about users connecting to the Xbox Live service using modified Xbox consoles. In most cases, these users have used the modifications to gain an unfair advantage over other players, such as racing modified, faster cars in Project Gotham Racing 2. By doing this, users are breaking the Terms of Use that must be agreed to when a gamertag is created. The Xbox Live team will not tolerate this unfair activity and have taken steps to protect our community from this cheating.
Xbox Live has recently initiated additional security measures to ensure that those connecting to Xbox Live with modified hardware will be removed from the system. Modified consoles will be banned, and information about those banned machines will be tracked to prevent them from connecting to the service again.
Its important to the Xbox Live team that we work to provide an environment that is free of cheating and gives all players an opportunity to compete fairly online, and that's why I wanted to ensure that the community knows this. Xbox Live constantly monitors for users attempting to bypass security measures and gain unfair advantages over other players, and will take additional action as needed.
unquote:
This is even worse? It seams that someone has managed to get om XboxLive WITH a modchip ON! Only then you can change/mod games to do such things and stil run them...
How did they even do that? I believe strongly that it's possible to get on xboxLive with a modified xboxlivedash (i am working on it too), but it seams to be possible already now. How did they do that in the beginning? If they can manage this, then i'm sure they can also find a solution for fooling xbox live banning procedures.
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Also it seams that new Live games automaticly sets AUTOLOGON LIVESERVICE on ON, at starting the game. Even if the xbox is physically not connected to the internet. Needs to be more investigated too...
Post by: EthanHunt_IMF on October 21, 2004, 04:10:00 AM
| QUOTE (John Hoek @ Oct 21 2004, 05:07 AM) |
| This is even worse? It seams that someone has managed to get om XboxLive WITH a modchip ON! Only then you can change/mod games to do such things and stil run them... How did they even do that? I believe strongly that it's possible to get on xboxLive with a modified xboxlivedash (i am working on it too), but it seams to be possible already now. How did they do that in the beginning? If they can manage this, then i'm sure they can also find a solution for fooling xbox live banning procedures. |
You forgot to mention you were quoting major nelson's blog...
And whoever the parties involved in going on XBL with mods are, they aren't gonna come out and say so. So we just sit and wait for some one to make the discovery on what MS is looking for now.
Post by: fever on October 21, 2004, 08:22:00 AM
2nd was a aladain live chip. i dont know whats going on. they both worked for a day of using them and 2nd day banned i been carefull to keep the chip turned off when i been using live.
dont know if it was cause was on the ms dashboard setting up slayers when the chip was on or cause starwars tryed to go on live even tho in options i set it to not try to. really narked off.
guess might need a 2nd xbox one for my 120gb and testing games and one for live
i know i can get some epprom but i dont know if its even worth it :@
what u all think
Post by: A.Z.BEST on October 21, 2004, 10:01:00 AM
Wait with the next unbanning a bit more.
Post by: sakuraix on October 21, 2004, 02:03:00 PM
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=216825
Post by: snyper1982 on October 21, 2004, 02:18:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mekapo @ Oct 16 2004, 06:33 PM) |
| ya thats what im gonna do. Its not too bad a deal really. W/that new bundle we get 2 games Top Spin ($20) and NCAA 2k5 ($40), both of which are live compatible, and a new controller ($30). So in essence ur paying 60 bux for a brand new headache free xbox live experience. Seems like a decent price to me, considering all the games I havn't had to buy due to mr modchip |
and you get the dumbass award for admiting to pirating games. You deserve to be banned from live, and i hope you get baned from here as well. i swear i dont understand how some people even manage to breathe.
Post by: Arakon on October 21, 2004, 03:57:00 PM
I got a 2 month trial account..
xbox with various mods (used to be a mod test machine) and 20 gig IBM HD.. got banned. chip was disabled.
flashed new eeprom, got on, 2h later banned again. mod was 100% off (smartxx in the machine at the time, btw).
flashed another, replaced HD with a returned-to-stock state HD, however copied all savegames and C partition 1:1 off the IBM HD, removed all non-stock files (dashboards, app saves, eeprom backups etc), removed mod from system.. 3 days and still not banned.
I'm guessing:
either:
- MS checks for certain files/filenames on the HD
- checks for non-stock HDs
- detects LPC chips even while disabled (which is possible if the mod doesn't completely detach itself from the lpc port when disabled)
they do not
- "mark" gamer tags
- store information about being previously banned on HD (would've copied that over in my case otherwise)
truly safe ways of playing live should be:
- unplug mod (use pinheader install to be able to do that)
- swap HD for stock
annoying of course, but at least safe it seems.
Post by: TheArtist on October 21, 2004, 04:03:00 PM
Post by: A.Z.BEST on October 21, 2004, 04:45:00 PM
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Post by: Arakon on October 21, 2004, 08:57:00 PM
of course the 1.6 bios runs off the lpc port, but it would be very easy for MS to distinguish wether it's a modchip or their own xyclops chip.
and a tsop flashed box can either
a) not go on live anyways (256 kb tsops)
or
b) they can easily check if the entire tsop contains a valid bios or not.
also, have tsop boxes been banned multiple times yet?
@Sacrilego
I swapped the HD along with the eeprom, but I also restored stock state on the HD.
Post by: EthanHunt_IMF on October 21, 2004, 09:05:00 PM
My question really is, if you don't have a live account on the system to log in with, can you be banned?
Post by: GamezMan on October 22, 2004, 09:03:00 AM
Post by: mc_365 on October 22, 2004, 12:40:00 PM
Post by: deacon187 on October 23, 2004, 12:54:00 PM
even after playing SWBF ive never had to change auto sign in back to off, no game for me thus far has enabled it
i would have to say its the eeprom issues as stated the whole time or something in your info that you give MS when signing up for live like your name and credit card info for the people multiple bans , maybe they flag your name as well since it has to match CC info
who knows
Post by: A.Z.BEST on October 23, 2004, 03:55:00 PM
Who have actually got banned:
- people who have bought premodded Xboxes (EEPROMs might been sold for someone else)
- ppl who have been banned at least few months ago, and then got rebanned
- ppl who have bought EEPROMs from those damn resellers
I'm just laughing of those guys who sell EEPROMs few times, heh. If you wanna steal, do it with style. Steal millions not 4-5$ for an EEPROM, lol.
Post by: pimpin260 on October 24, 2004, 08:03:00 AM
ps.: is there a way to decrypt v1.6 EEproms? LiveInfo Beta 2 can only decrypt V1.0-V1.1
KPunk, how do you know MS is doing what their doing?
Post by: Veryn on October 25, 2004, 12:34:00 PM
you guys think if i take the right precautions i wont get banned? my chip is sooooo gonna be off when i get a live account and my box was factory sealed when i bought it
and only one time i did connect to the m$ dash while my chip was on, but that was only before i flashed my chip
Post by: Digital Marine on October 29, 2004, 05:31:00 PM
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Post by: Dieseldoug on October 30, 2004, 01:45:00 PM
. Is it also possible that Bungie & M$ could have leaked a Halo2 version onto the net for the sole purpose of tracking modders because they would be the only ones that could get their hands on a copy.
Post by: Master YodaX on October 31, 2004, 08:19:00 AM
| QUOTE (Dieseldoug @ Oct 30 2004, 04:48 PM) |
| Is it also possible that Bungie & M$ could have leaked a Halo2 version onto the net for the sole purpose of tracking modders because they would be the only ones that could get their hands on a copy. |
Yeah and give it away to the many modders who do not have an xbox live account?NOT BLOODY LIKELY
Post by: rebelace on November 08, 2004, 04:42:00 PM
Post by: rebelace on November 08, 2004, 07:23:00 PM
Post by: tricksterg on November 09, 2004, 12:39:00 PM
120 GB w/ booted RETAIL bios.
they know something. mac address? could a solution be get a stock xbox? do i need a new gamertag? what's the deal here?
Post by: Mentok on November 17, 2004, 11:08:00 AM
| QUOTE (GoodGrief @ Nov 17 2004, 07:03 PM) |
| Word is on the street that if you have been banned before you have to get a new eeprom and lock it with a NEW HD (Stock has been proven to work). Once you have been banned M$ has definately put extra checks if u use the same GT. If you really want to keep your GT then try to get a stock HD. If your can live without it, create a new one and then you could use the larger HD. Virgin EEPROM + Virgin GT + Large HD = Success on XBLive. I have proof of that, but I am not using any exploits or softmods. EDIT: I wanted to give you some more info on my situation. I do have Dloaded games (F:) and gamesaves I also have evox dash on c: |
There is truth to that.
I got banned recently and have been laying low. But I couldn't wait any longer and flashed a new eeprom yesterday and playec Street Fighter AC for about 3 hours. Then today I was banned. I do believe they flag your GT and run more extensive tests on it once you sign in with it again. I have a large HD btw.
Soooooooooooo If I flash epprom again but use a NEW GT I should be straight?
Post by: mrjkwik on November 17, 2004, 11:15:00 AM