Post by: bhang419 on November 09, 2004, 09:03:00 PM
I know no one but myself made it off Halo1 so where did sarge come from and that covenant dude. Now don't get me wrong sarge was a cool guy but dead is dead, and I saw him blow up while hugging a covenant.
Where did the skill GO? I ran through the game laughing, stopping to smell the flowers and talk to the birdies, while occasionaly shooting at a few enemies. The campaign levels were painfuly small and cramped, didn't everyone say they liked "Assault on the Control Room" the best? I guess bungie just wasn't listening.
I did like the fancy new bit mapping, but does anyone else think the mastercheif looks a little flat? Must be that lack of polygons from the first, I wonder if online play again had a hand in that. The weapons all suck, one weapon is the same as the next, and I've seen three year old girls that can throw a grenade farther than MC. But now he can jump off a 1000 foot cliff and not get hurt, futher removeing skill from the game.
I use to enjoy beating dead covanent to a bloody pulp and painting the walls with them untill the lag was just too unbearable, now they hardly blead at all. Drop ships are still invincible, shure I can blow off a couple of guns but thats hardly as satisfying as standing over the rubble of a once magnificent ship. Did that giant plant remind anyone of little shop of horrors? Enough bitching for now, but I do think we need a special fourm just for Halo 2 bitching!!! <
Post by: 2der on November 09, 2004, 08:07:00 PM
it sucks.. havent played the campain.. but.. its like.. sucks.,. i played like 5 mins.. and then i wanted to go back to halo 1... ..i just hope we dont feel (or I feel the same way) about xbox2... so.. so far i dont like it..
Post by: maxgeek on November 09, 2004, 09:28:00 PM
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Post by: itsmee129 on November 09, 2004, 08:27:00 PM
Post by: Crypty on November 09, 2004, 09:39:00 PM
Aside from the story(since I didnt bother following it in either game) I thought the SP experience was pretty sick. Don't like what they did with the mp gameplay though.
Anybody wanna ask bungie for a re-release of halo1 with sp cut out for live and more levels? <
Post by: bigjonny on November 09, 2004, 10:33:00 PM
Post by: Heet on November 09, 2004, 11:04:00 PM
A guy(P@nZ3r) in reviews summed it up like this, and I agree.
PROS:
* Great visuals ( OMG the water effects are beautiful)
* Amazing music, i loved #1's music as well. This Music rocks.
* Legendary tougher then #1.
* Funny as hell audio. ( take Srg. Johnson's Sniper )
* Hijack vehicles, throw nades in tanks, ride on enemy driven vehicles.
* Battle creek and blood gulch redone ( Beaver creek & Coagulation)
* PHYSICS , PHYSICS, and more PHYSICS
* Emblem / color Customazation in MP.
* Damage to vehicles ( specific parts )
* Banshee Flips!!!
CONS:
* Incredibly dumb friendly AI.... let your marines drive. you'll see....
* VERY disappointing ending. VERY... ** EXTREMELY **
* Brutes are not cool. just annoying. not even fun to kill ..
* MP view seems cramped and sluggish movements... good bye H1 perfection
* Dont use pistol unless you are duel weilding.
* Atleast 75% of campaign is played as Elite Covenant
* Covenant weapons boring (except duel needlers!!! )
* Repetative maps... same thing over...over and over.
* Sword is n00b-weapon. omg.....
* Jackals too accurate with sniper on Legendary ? pro/conn
* MP lacks gripping game play. i can play H1 for hours... not H2
* Shotgun extremely nerfed...
* Whacks..... they barely hurt.
I only want to add that I cant believe they only included vertical view for widescreen. WTF?
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Post by: Axis86 on November 09, 2004, 11:34:00 PM
There multiplayer maps are toooooooo bigggggg its not fun for 2-4 ppl i miss the smaller maps <
Post by: 2der on November 09, 2004, 10:50:00 PM
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| now that halo 2 is legally out , im not cool at school anymore!! |
Post by: manichispanic on November 10, 2004, 08:09:00 AM
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Post by: Kev052683 on November 10, 2004, 10:05:00 AM
Multiplayer feels COMPLETELY different than Halo 1. You carry a flag and you go about half the speed you went without it. It's a friggin' flag, not a boulder, come on! Also, I can somewhat understand the no driving with the flag, but I dont agree with what it does to the game. You can't gun either. Yes, it's Halo 2, it's different game, but so far I despise the multiplayer. It's feels so SSLLOOWW. Even without the flag, I feel like I'm walking in mud. One last complaint about it is the fact that the interface seems crammed. Play with 4 players on a screen, and you'll see that there are so many things on the screen (being ammo, radar, shield, etc) that you can hardly see what's happening. Even with the radar turned off, we are cursed with that damn circle in the bottom left.
Sorry Bungie, don't think you went in the right direction with your multiplayer - just my opinion though.
Edit - One last thing to rant about is the warthog. Halo 1 warthog took a learning curve yes, but then I absolutely loved it. I dont like how this one handles. Also, WTF is up with the high pitch engine as you're driving? That sounds like 2 door japanese car, not a "truck"
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Post by: iwannadie on November 10, 2004, 10:10:00 AM
| QUOTE (manichispanic @ Nov 10 2004, 04:01 PM) |
| Hype kills, i didnt read a sentence about Halo2 prerelease and I think its great. True, the XBL is a little wierd, and the story is not what I expected, but I am far far far from dissapointed. I bet you vould sell your used copies of Halo2 on eBay for $50 to a kid who really wishes he preordered it right now. |
try 100$ for the LE version unopened <
Post by: xfoofoo on November 10, 2004, 10:47:00 AM
| QUOTE (iwannadie @ Nov 10 2004, 06:02 PM) |
| try 100$ for the LE version unopened |
I don't know which state you're in, but we have tons of copies lying around in local stores. Regular and collector's edition.
Anyway bungie is not bungie anymore, it's just another group of M$. Whatever they do, the goal is to make the most profit for M$ and they did pretty well of robbing our hard earned cash this time(heard $100M sell first day). <
Post by: FreakInvasion on November 10, 2004, 10:20:00 AM
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| I know no one but myself made it off Halo1 so where did sarge come from and that covenant dude. Now don't get me wrong sarge was a cool guy but dead is dead, and I saw him blow up while hugging a covenant. |
This is a new guy. As readers of the book would know, Halo doesn't end where Halo 2 starts. Here is what happens between where Halo 1 lets off and where Halo 2 begins (http://www.gamedaily...&article_id=388):
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They return to the ship and start the detonation sequence, but Guilty Spark teleports in to shut it down. Master Chief is forced to manually destroy parts of the engine to destabilize the reactor and cause an explosion. With only minutes left before the ship explodes, Master Chief makes a mad dash into a fighter plane parked in one of the docking bays and escapes just in time as The Pillar of Autumn detonates and Halo is destroyed. Back out in space, Master Chief discovers a handful of human survivors in another ship as well as a small group of Covenant ships. They land inside the landing bay of a Covenant ship and capture it so that they can take advantage of its Slipspace abilities (similar to warp speed in Star Trek or hyperspace in Star Wars) and return home. Cortana assists them in their mission by entering the Covenant network and keeping track of the enemy locations. However, she notices that she had copied so much information about the history of Halo from the Halo network that she's a bit sluggish. Once they have control of the ship, Cortana is amazed at the superior Slipspace technology the Covenant possess that allows them to maneuver through space with pinpoint accuracy. The rest of the crew wants to return to Earth and share the discovery, but Master Chief wants to return to Reach and salvage serviceable UNSC craft. Secretly however, he hopes to find a few of his Spartan teammates on the ground still alive. What Master Chief doesn't know is that five of his Spartans are still alive. Normally, when the Covenant destroy a world from space, they bombard every square centimeter of the surface. However, this time the destruction wasn't total, and the Covenant neglected to bomb the area around a human facility located deep within a mountain. Instead, they send an army of forces to converge on the mountain. The team of Spartans manages to make their way into the facility and is reunited with Dr. Halsey. Inside the abandoned facility, Dr. Halsey works on healing the Spartans' wounds and hacks into the network to discover that the markings on the rock stolen from Cote d'Azur also pinpoint their current location. As the Covenant begin digging into the mountain to unearth the facility, Dr. Halsey and the Spartans retreat into old mine tunnels deeper into the mountain, searching for a way out as well as anything that might give a clue about why the Covenants are so interested in this place. They stumble into an ancient, circular room, stretching more than 3 kilometers in diameter. In the center is a crystal floating above a pedestal, which the humans take just as the ceiling opens up and Covenant forces storm in. Back in space, as the stolen Covenant ship comes out of Slipspace and approaches Reach, the crew can see that a small square of land had been saved from bombardment. Hearing a signal known only to the Spartans being transmitted repeatedly, Master Chief is convinced that some Spartans are still alive and is determined to drop down to the surface. He and a handful of Marines take a drop ship down to the source of the signal and are reunited with a handful of Spartans hiding from the Covenant. They set out on a mission to reach the base of the nearby mountain and are reunited with the other Spartan team. What Master Chief sees is nearly jaw-dropping. The entire three kilometer wide cavern is packed full of snarling Covenant forces, holding their fire because Dr. Halsey is holding the crystal in her hand. Aboard the stolen Covenant ship, Cortana isn't pleased with how her thinking has slowed down and she decides to use a Covenant AI replication program she found to duplicate herself and free up some memory. But after the process, she realizes that she can now perfectly understand the Covenant language and discovers with horror that the Covenant have discovered the location of Earth and are preparing to launch a massive operation. As the Spartans and the other humans attempt to flee from Reach and the massive Covenant army in a drop ship, Covenant space ships surround them. Cortana takes over a nearby UNSC ship and rescues them from certain defeat. As they attempt to jump into Slipspace, the mysterious crystal twists shape and space becomes distorted. They manage to escape the Covenant, and Dr. Halsey concludes that the crystal can not only bend space, but time as well. Cortana discovers that the Covenant will rendezvous at a command station called Unyielding Hierophant before attacking Earth. The Spartans decide to launch a first strike at the Covenant there and delay the invasion of Earth. Meanwhile, Dr. Halsey effectively destroys the crystal so that the Covenant can't ever get their hands on it. Throughout her entire life, she has always felt guilty for her role in the illegal kidnappings to start the SPARTAN program and the lives she essentially forced the kids to adopt. She finally repents and takes Kelly, one of the injured Spartans, to fly off secretly on a mission of her own without telling anyone. Before the Spartans leave on their mission to attack the Unyielding Hierophant, Cortana uploads a copy of herself to Master Chief. When the Spartans land at the Covenant command station, they are astonished at the hundreds of ships docked at the station. Master Chief links Cortana to the station network so that she can help shut down security and tell them where to go, but as the mission wears on, she becomes overwhelmed by the Covenant AI and is forced to replicate hundreds of times just to continue communication with Master Chief. All the Cortana copies are fragmented and eventually unravel. Luckily Master Chief and his team are able to set explosives on the central reactor and make their escape as the entire station explodes, virtually destroying the armada. The Covenant have suffered a big defeat, but Master Chief and company have only delayed the inevitable Covenant invasion of Earth... |
And as for playing as a covenant, that was pretty surprising but fun none-the-less. It gives an important look into what being a covenant is really like. I didn't expect it, but I did enjoy it.
Post by: mamajo on November 10, 2004, 12:31:00 PM
Post by: Sentient on November 10, 2004, 02:03:00 PM
Halo 2 is great, if you dont like it then its because you had a preconception of what it was going to be and you are too stubborn to accept it for what it is, one of the most balanced, best looking FPS ever.
(IMO the best)
I loved halo 1 but halo 2 is better.
Post by: esc1 on November 10, 2004, 02:22:00 PM
H2 is damn near perfect.
Post by: tricksterg on November 10, 2004, 02:33:00 PM
Post by: Sentient on November 10, 2004, 02:48:00 PM
laff
Post by: chris_kalan on November 10, 2004, 03:05:00 PM
Also, they reused the original Halo engine! So now it chgs like mad, the background flickers, and there is way too much going on for me to appreciate much more.
Lastly, I am disappointed that it will end abruptly. I really would have aited another year for the REAL Halo 2 or even until it became an Xbox Next launch title. Now there is something to look forward to!
Post by: RustAngel on November 10, 2004, 03:11:00 PM
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| the name of the game is Halo 2, you guys thaught it would only be you defending earth? laff |
Since when is the title of a game supposed to be a 100% accurate summary? If it were, don't you think Splinter Cell should have some actual splinters in it? How about the lack of burnouts in Burn Out 3? Or the fact that Tony Hawk Underground is not actually set under the ground?
Besides, LOOK AT THE F*$KING ADVERTISING!! "Earth Needs You!" "Fight for the Earth" Earth this, earth that...look at all the friggin trailers!!! IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AN EPIC WAR ON EARTH, not some pansy 10-hour field trip before the real battle even begins!!
*cries*
RustAngel
Post by: IheartHuckabees on November 10, 2004, 04:41:00 PM
| QUOTE (RustAngel @ Nov 11 2004, 12:14 AM) |
| Since when is the title of a game supposed to be a 100% accurate summary? If it were, don't you think Splinter Cell should have some actual splinters in it? How about the lack of burnouts in Burn Out 3? Or the fact that Tony Hawk Underground is not actually set under the ground? Besides, LOOK AT THE F*$KING ADVERTISING!! "Earth Needs You!" "Fight for the Earth" Earth this, earth that...look at all the friggin trailers!!! IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AN EPIC WAR ON EARTH, not some pansy 10-hour field trip before the real battle even begins!! *cries* RustAngel |
your an idiot to
earth does need you, the covenant were going to activate another halo, thereby killing off humans
but i guess that doesnt count
you guys are a bunch of fucking whine babies
Post by: RustAngel on November 11, 2004, 01:32:00 PM
| QUOTE (IheartHuckabees @ Nov 11 2004, 01:44 AM) |
| your an idiot to earth does need you, the covenant were going to activate another halo, thereby killing off humans but i guess that doesnt count you guys are a bunch of fucking whine babies |
Now now, looks like someone hasn't been paying attention in school:
"You're an idiot too!
Earth does need you, the Covenant were going to activate another halo, thereby killing off humans, but I guess that doesn't count."
There, isn't that much better? I write real good for an idiot, huh?
As I said in the other thread you're busy polluting with your snot-nosed fanboy drivel, there was no need to get personal. If you're going to debate, then come up with some real arguments apart from "omg evryone who dosnt like halo2 STFU ur all idiot n00bs and you dont understand bungie like i do".
RustAngel
Post by: lifeforce4 on November 11, 2004, 01:59:00 PM
I know I'm not the best at halo so I want to know anyone have tips for how to play H2 on legendary?
Thanks,
Kyle
Post by: RustAngel on November 11, 2004, 03:18:00 PM
| QUOTE (FreakInvasion @ Nov 11 2004, 10:48 PM) |
| You forgot some. Shouldn't Rainbox Six have some rainbows in it? WHERE ARE MY GOD DAMN RAINBOWS. My teacher said her macintosh didn't come with any apples. NO FUCKING APPLES!!! Why isn't American football actually called tackleball? If they had called it something other then Halo 2, they would have had to make it a different game. It's still based around the same idea of playing as MC and fighting the covenant. Never judge a book by its cover..... fucking rainbows... |
Not only should it have rainbows, but it should have SIX of them!! Goddamn false advertising
Post by: Master-Chief on November 11, 2004, 03:35:00 PM
Post by: Imagineaworld on November 11, 2004, 04:12:00 PM
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Post by: esc1 on November 11, 2004, 04:24:00 PM
Post by: Barnolde on November 11, 2004, 04:50:00 PM
My rant/review on Halo 2's single player
RustAngel, I like your name analogy. 2 levels on Earth sucked, mainly because most of the Halo levels were the same boring, generic crap we saw in the first game. 3 years and they can't fix the stupid level design. We actually went back to The Library!!! WHY!? In a cutscene, they said they were going to The Library, and MC was going somewhere else, and then you find out you have to go there as an Elite, wow, fun. Bungie took a shot at themselves, made me breathe a sigh of relief, and then kicked me in the nuts while I wasn't looking by going to the worst level from the first game as a character I don't want to play as. Playing as an Elite was cool for two levels, but they made you do it so much it turned out to be almost as annoying as playing as Raiden from MGS2. Then again, putting the MC on the cover in a prominent pose doesn't mean anything, hell in Halo 3 you'll probably be some generic Marine, like in THUG you don't even play as Tony Hawk anymore. Dear game devs, we want to play as the characters we know in love, that means no Elites and no Raiden. Bungie made so many half-assed mistakes in this cramped game with level design done by Stevie Wonder, because no person with vision could've made levels this horrible and cramped.
Halo 2 = Halo 1.5, because there's no way this game is a full sequel. They should've called it Halo: Island Thunder or Halo: Black Arrow, because it was more like one of those expansion pack type games than a full sequel.
But the multiplayer is fun, I only wish I preferred multiplayer to single player and I wasn't banned from XBL. Bungie sold out to the great Satan, and this lackluster game makes me hate MS anymore and I have lost much respect I once had for Bungie.
Post by: RoninX7 on November 11, 2004, 11:31:00 PM
One of the things that bothered me most about HALO 1 was that we had no idea who the Covenant really were. "See they're these guys. Yeah, these guys, from another planet. They all look different from each other, for some reason. They've got crazy weapons and purple ships. And, um, they want to take over Earth. We really don't know why. Oh, and they have a religion of some sort."
I'm told they explain more in the books, but, well, I never read them.
Thanks to the role of the Arbiter in HALO 2, we now have a much better understanding of the Covenant, the way their society works, their religious practices, and the significance of Halo and Earth. Actually being able to play as an Elite does so much more for the game as a whole. Now the Covenant are not just these generic aliens, now they seem like actual characters, with real depth and dimension. We have a reason to hate them or even empathize with them (I found myself seriously rooting for the Elites over the Brutes, which is very strange considering the number of times I've yelled "FUCKING ELITE!" at my TV during my HALO career).
And besides, optic camoflauge at the push of a button? Cool. Hunters and sword-wielding Elites as your allies? Very cool.
So that's just my two cents. I'm surprised that the Covenant levels are taking so much heat, they went over really well with our crowd.
Post by: Al_Ghazi on November 12, 2004, 03:55:00 AM
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| All that I know is that I like it. But if you do not then shut up and stop talking shit about it. Don't ruin it for the rest of us other Halo 2 fans. This is ridiculous if you do not like it stop playing it and play the orignal |
Spoken like any jerk who has 67 posts to his name.
This is a forum you idiot - it is FOR discussing things. That is why it is here.
Halo 2? Big let Down. Bungie is just another part of the M$ cash machine - they sucker punched all of us with this release - what the hell were they doing for 3 years????
Ghaz,
Post by: fezzman on November 12, 2004, 05:49:00 AM
After trying it out on XBC I finally decided to go back and give Live a second chance. I am so glad that I did too. Party invites are easy enough to do and I now have enough friends in my list because of the party invites that I can easily fill a room. Sometimes I still like to stick to the playlists though. I didn't care much about ranking at first because it's never interested me with other games. Being that they geared this game around ranking I'm going to start taking them up on their offer.
The ranking goes all the way up to 50 and I've already made it to a huge whopping 6 
I'm just glad that I didn't dismiss the game so quickly. It has grown on me quicker than Halo 1 did.
Post by: chris1712 on November 12, 2004, 06:09:00 AM
also wtf with people saying this was easy!? Jeezus some of the battles are huge and you tae so much fire its very hard to stay alive. It must be incredibly difficult on legendary. Also, there better be a friggin halo 3.
Post by: lifeforce4 on November 12, 2004, 07:46:00 AM
| QUOTE (Al_Ghazi @ Nov 12 2004, 07:58 AM) |
| what the hell were they doing for 3 years???? Ghaz, |
The extra dvd that comes with the LE game tells.
Kyle
Post by: bluedeath on November 12, 2004, 09:24:00 AM
| QUOTE (lifeforce4 @ Nov 12 2004, 04:49 PM) |
| Snootchey Bootchey |
I don't know why I was disappointed by this game. Could it be the fact that you can run the single player campaign under legendary mode in a day. Does anyone else notice that the graphics get worse the deeper you get into the game. Everything is darker. They hid poor design with smoke and haze. The list goes on and on. I have to applaud MS on their money making scam. This game was made for the sole purpose of prepping everyone for Xbox 2. Hype begets Hype.
Post by: esc1 on November 12, 2004, 09:55:00 AM
Post by: TacoBalls on November 12, 2004, 10:20:00 AM
| QUOTE (RoninX7 @ Nov 12 2004, 02:34 AM) |
| And besides, optic camoflauge at the push of a button? Cool. Hunters and sword-wielding Elites as your allies? Very cool. |
Yea, it was cool, until it disengaged after 10 seconds or it went away after the first firing of a weapon, that was lame.
I agree with the general consensus...campaign is super gay, multiplayer is super fun when you tweak it.
I also agree with the expansion theory. It's just an expansion, not a sequel. I play broodwar so I can play online with lurkers and medics. I'll play Halo 2 online so I can drive Covenant vehicles and have more team options and new levels. I beat the campaign once and wont try it again.
Post by: Phizzy on November 12, 2004, 10:50:00 AM
Where is the real-time lighting and shadows as seen in the videos (ie. E3)?
Where is the story and long gameplay in single player? H2 was supposed to be at least 50% longer than H1.
Where are the Warthogs? Bungie showed five, but only gave us two.
Where is the ATV?
I could go on and on...
Post by: esc1 on November 12, 2004, 11:39:00 AM
Post by: gcskate27 on November 12, 2004, 12:09:00 PM
Post by: Sentient on November 12, 2004, 12:24:00 PM
with that out of the way, here we go with your 2 important questions Phizzy.
Bungie never claimed ONCE that anything shown at E3 was a finished product or would be seen in the final release. There are some pretty sweet Dynamic lighting affects that got included into the final version of halo, take some time to look at objects and how the light plays off of them in relation to where it is at, and what is in the way, ect.
as for the story and gameplay, easy to answer. Halo 1 has 10 missions, halo 2 has 15. I trust you can do the math. As for the actual time it takes in hours to complete the game... since you are super l337 and have been playing games since the dawn of time, it probably takes you no more than 10 hrs to beat the game... but that is subjective. Bungie can't predict the length of time that it takes you to to complete their game... and if you want it to take longer try legendary next time.
Instead of complaining about the horrible flaws (which ones again?) and the things bungie didn't do, try actually playing the game with an open mind that this is actually a video game, not divine enlightenment. Seriously though... take a look around some of the single player levels. Realize that ALL of the cutscenes are run on the games engine, something that very few developers have the balls, or the ability, to do.
Post by: gcskate27 on November 12, 2004, 01:15:00 PM
i think (read: hope) that the e3 level will be a downloadable single player mission on live...
it makes sense as it could tie up the story a bit more as its on earth where mc is about to land at the end of the game as well as the fact that there are brutes there, which means it was a bit further in the story than the levels in the begining... i hope im right as that level looked really fun, but im not holding my breath...
Post by: AnThRaX on November 12, 2004, 02:56:00 PM
Post by: SniperKilla on November 12, 2004, 08:21:00 PM
Post by: SpeedyOyster on November 12, 2004, 09:49:00 PM
I am so angry I bought this hunk of garbage.
Post by: gcskate27 on November 12, 2004, 09:54:00 PM
Post by: lifeforce4 on November 12, 2004, 10:21:00 PM
| QUOTE (gcskate27 @ Nov 13 2004, 01:57 AM) |
| my interpretation of people bitching about halo2 multiplayer" "im upset they took out my 3 shot kill uber-weapon.. now i have to learn something new: i hate losing!" just repeat this in your head everytime you read one of their posts... |
hahaha not only that but most every one that complains has under 100 posts from what I have seen.
Yeah after playing it a little more I seem to like it. I have only played SP right now and just have to get use to the new way of moving around. The tank drives so slow now. I guess thats a good thing? I think one of the wires on my xbox wiggled free, I have to open it up so I can copy H2 to my xbox and my brother and I can play MP.
Kyle
Post by: gamefreakgcb on November 12, 2004, 10:45:00 PM
Post by: Crypty on November 13, 2004, 01:35:00 PM
Well I can look forward to H3(or whatever it may be called). Hopefully they won't fuck it up.
Ohhhh yes, I just remembered HL2 is one to look forward to also.
I have a feeling after tonight, H2 isn't going to spend much time in my drive.