Post by: Xbox-Scene on March 01, 2012, 06:31:00 PM
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Post by: mrdude2478 on March 01, 2012, 07:37:00 PM
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Post by: Weirdjerz3y on March 01, 2012, 07:53:00 PM
Post by: wolferine111 on March 01, 2012, 07:56:00 PM
VERY keen on this!
Post by: Lush on March 01, 2012, 07:58:00 PM
Post by: ruciz on March 01, 2012, 08:04:00 PM
Team Xecuter makes a point to stand behind their hardware releases with incredible (usually public) software development. I guess those coolrunners were a good seller! hopefully the XB1 release spirit continues with their software running on anything it can.
Im also curious as to what their RGH2.0 is - a better/more successful install or just an all in one update so one chip does it all.
"Naturally our present day endeavors don't really include any of the awesome hacking that took place on the Xbox 1, nowadays there are the well known firmware hacks which have been tremendously exploited by sceners such as Commodore4Eva & Team Jungle. As great as these 360 hacks are I don't think we will ever see again the level of fantastic homebrew capabilities that the Xbox 1 had - unless you have a JTAGGABLE 360 of course - then you should get yourself an Xecuter Nand-X" - htxtp://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42434
Looks like Team Xecuter may finally surpass the JTAGGABLE 360 hype they posted back in '06 and all they achieved on the xbox 1
This post has been edited by ruciz: Mar 2 2012, 04:05 AM
Post by: deadeyes989 on March 01, 2012, 08:06:00 PM
I was that guy that modded every xbox for his friends.
I was that guy that had a blue Xbox logo 'cause I was badass.
I will be that guy again. Thank you Xecuter. I've missed the original xbox style.
Post by: vb_encryption_vb on March 01, 2012, 09:10:00 PM
Post by: Dcoz on March 01, 2012, 09:12:00 PM
QUOTE(deadeyes989 @ Mar 2 2012, 04:06 AM) 
I am crying from happiness. I don't care if Xecuter is taking advantage of other groups hard work.
I was that guy that modded every xbox for his friends.
I was that guy that had a blue Xbox logo 'cause I was badass.
I will be that guy again. Thank you Xecuter. I've missed the original xbox style.
I just pressed the like button. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Post by: Hamsnibit on March 01, 2012, 09:22:00 PM
Post by: AZImmortal on March 01, 2012, 09:32:00 PM
QUOTE(ruciz @ Mar 1 2012, 07:04 PM) 
Looks like Team Xecuter may finally surpass the JTAGGABLE 360 hype they posted back in '06 and all they achieved on the xbox 1
Not to temper your excitement, but the JTAG hack didn't come out until 2009. That list from Xecuter was probably modified as advancements were made in 360 hacking.
Post by: MasterGouken on March 01, 2012, 09:36:00 PM
Post by: ruciz on March 01, 2012, 09:36:00 PM
QUOTE(AZImmortal @ Mar 2 2012, 05:32 AM)
Not to temper your excitement, but the JTAG hack didn't come out until 2009. That list from Xecuter was probably modified as advancements were made in 360 hacking.
Very true.
http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/461489
king kong exploit wasn't publically disclosed until Feb 28 2007 - 5 years ago.
For some reason I don't remember seeing any hype video in December about the exploit. Guess there was some public demonstration though.
Ironic they release this video 5 years to the day almost after.
This post has been edited by ruciz: Mar 2 2012, 05:39 AM
Post by: The Dude Z on March 01, 2012, 09:36:00 PM
In any event this will be sweeeeet and hopefully someone will develop a media player for it that will finally play .mkv-x264 content !! Cant Wait
Post by: gehx on March 01, 2012, 10:23:00 PM
QUOTE(The Dude Z @ Mar 1 2012, 11:36 PM)
One must wonder if this will be a mod chip or TSOP style setup.
In any event this will be sweeeeet and hopefully someone will develop a media player for it that will finally play .mkv-x264 content !! Cant Wait
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Post by: Marcheslav on March 02, 2012, 12:14:00 AM
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Post by: darklord88 on March 02, 2012, 04:39:00 AM
cant wait
Post by: DaBuisneZ on March 02, 2012, 06:42:00 AM
So as exciting as this news is i would be happier to see some emus getting updated aswell as some true homebrew features. Changing the boot ani is super sweet and all but playing n64, nds, or dreamcast stuff would take the cake. Ofcourse an xmbc port would demolish any other project as far as popularity. Tx needs to light a fire under some devs arses in order to make this new kernel even more appealing.
Post by: barnhilltrckn on March 02, 2012, 07:42:00 AM
QUOTE(DaBuisneZ @ Mar 2 2012, 08:42 AM)
Well now that was a nice treat to com home too. This must be said though. No point in a great kernel if there isnt any good homebrew to take advantage of it. So far 360 has atleast a dozen emus all of which are partially done.
So as exciting as this news is i would be happier to see some emus getting updated aswell as some true homebrew features. Changing the boot ani is super sweet and all but playing n64, nds, or dreamcast stuff would take the cake. Ofcourse an xmbc port would demolish any other project as far as popularity. Tx needs to light a fire under some devs arses in order to make this new kernel even more appealing.
Dont worry about the emulators. There is a good project in the works that is going to blow everybody away. Nes, Snes, Sega, And VBA will be coming with ALOT of great features and great compatability. Shouldnt be too long before its ready for the public so thats all I will say about it.
But back OT it is nice to see TX get beack to its roots, I am still running good ole 4983 on my xbox. The only thing that makes me wonder is what else do they really have to bring to the table when it comes to a custom kernal?? Every restriction that the 360 has is allready removed so other than custom boot logos and such I really see nothing else they can bring. Hopefully they can bring some new things in and maybe even see the 360 reach levels that the xbox did.
Another thing I am worried about is if we can flash this directly to our nand or will we need a DemoN to be able to run this kernal. I took a look at the TX forums and an admin over there said a DemoN is needed. Personally I do not need one as I have a cygnos in my slim now. I am perfectly happy with it running a RGH image on one nand and RgLoader on the other. Hopefully this part will also be like the old xbox days where you can use the TX kernal on anything.
Post by: Hoescout on March 02, 2012, 07:58:00 AM
QUOTE(DaBuisneZ @ Mar 2 2012, 03:42 PM)
Well now that was a nice treat to com home too. This must be said though. No point in a great kernel if there isnt any good homebrew to take advantage of it. So far 360 has atleast a dozen emus all of which are partially done.
So as exciting as this news is i would be happier to see some emus getting updated aswell as some true homebrew features. Changing the boot ani is super sweet and all but playing n64, nds, or dreamcast stuff would take the cake. Ofcourse an xmbc port would demolish any other project as far as popularity. Tx needs to light a fire under some devs arses in order to make this new kernel even more appealing.
Exactly this. Personally I also think we need xbmc. Everything else is not interesting. We have some emus already which work ok.. Maybe YT app or something for jtags but thats about it. The real deal is still the XBMC. Everything else works already and I have to agree to barn. Every restriction is in fact already removed. Theres not much left they can do in this direction.
I know its not easy ofc. Is there a linux driver for the xbox gpu with full access to hardware acceleration? Or let me ask this way- is the xbox gpu capable of accelerating h264 decoding etc.? Or does the cpu handle all the video stuff?
Post by: RDJ134 on March 02, 2012, 08:11:00 AM
Post by: SZaiaku on March 02, 2012, 08:13:00 AM
Post by: boflc on March 02, 2012, 09:45:00 AM
QUOTE(SZaiaku @ Mar 2 2012, 11:13 AM)
Please tell me I don't have to buy any more hardware to be able to use this.
it's a different kernel is all; should work on all exploited consoles.
QUOTE(DaBuisneZ @ Mar 2 2012, 12:00 PM)
Im with you guys in wondering if this will be demon exclusive.
it isn't a demon exclusive, as it's just a different set of bl's, patches, etc. from what i can gather, it was work that was once abandoned and has recently been taken up again (by other folks).
Post by: warbeast on March 02, 2012, 11:10:00 AM
Post by: The Prankster on March 02, 2012, 11:15:00 AM
The main feature I'd be looking for is XBMC, even though that's seperate from XBMC, am I not the only one sick and tired of using PS3 Media Server/TVersity for MKV support?
Summing up-
XBMC & the ability to install a LARGE 1TB and up drive as the main drive. Plus the ability to create the 'F*** M$' logo upon bootup... was always my favorite for Xbox1 logos.
I can do without everything else, but I'm sure others can't.
Great work Xecuter!
Post by: drewZen on March 02, 2012, 11:21:00 AM
Post by: boflc on March 02, 2012, 11:22:00 AM
QUOTE(warbeast @ Mar 2 2012, 02:10 PM)
the main thing i hope they do is remove the need to increase the ldv every time the retail side takes a update
two different things and i do not see that happening.Post by: DaBuisneZ on March 02, 2012, 11:45:00 AM
Also everyone is killing me with the mkv support. My samsung tv/dvdplayer/galaxy tab 10.1 and xbox 360 using windows media center stream mkvs. Years ago i could see it being a problem but now every new dvdplayer and tv supports divx aswell as h.264. Not trying to brag jus curious why so many ppl starve for such a feature when even smart phones are capable. off topic check out samsungs new series 8 models. Mind boggli
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Post by: Gazc0igne on March 02, 2012, 12:03:00 PM
QUOTE(DaBuisneZ @ Mar 2 2012, 06:45 PM)
Also everyone is killing me with the mkv support. My samsung tv/dvdplayer/galaxy tab 10.1 and xbox 360 using windows media center stream mkvs. Years ago i could see it being a problem but now every new dvdplayer and tv supports divx aswell as h.264. Not trying to brag jus curious why so many ppl starve for such a feature when even smart phones are capable. off topic check out samsungs new series 8 models. Mind boggli
ngnah id prefer not to have to pull my 1tb external HDD out of my JTAG and to have to plug it into my TV every time i want to watch a mkv film
XBMC will be bad ass cant wait, been waiting for it since the release date of the xbox360.
great news!!
Post by: ddxcb on March 02, 2012, 12:31:00 PM
QUOTE(pigbait @ Mar 2 2012, 10:28 AM)
so this being a custom kernel would this mean that a glich chip would only be required to set up the kernel then once flashed to nand and stuff the chip could be removed? and xbox would boot to custom kernel
I don't know why people think this is a new kernel or a custom one. It's a dev kit kernel. Same stuff that we got back in Oct. 09, aka freeboot/XBR/GGboot.
Of cource the Glitch chip is needed to boot to the modded kernel, just like GGboot or xell. The chain of trust is still there and needed to be hack to obtain access to the system.
Post by: mrdude2478 on March 02, 2012, 12:31:00 PM
Personally the features I'd like to see in this kernel are as follows.:
XBMC
Built in xlink kai - without needing a computer.
Abilty to assign internet sites like youtube, iplayer, faceboot, etc to a menu.
Abilty to play all 360/xbox 1 backups, homebrew etc (already we have this).
Better video codecs.
Built in server/client for streaming from on to upnp devices + dlna support.
Ping patch without the need for dashlaunch.
Abilty to easily mod the menu's - ie skinable.
This would be awesome, but looking forward to it none the less.
Post by: ploggy on March 02, 2012, 12:40:00 PM
http://www.lonelycod...showtime/boards
Post by: scibot on March 02, 2012, 12:50:00 PM
I suppose that depends on the release date for the new Xbox 3/720, but with the slow pace of homebrew in general for the 360 (so many unfinished projects) I feel as tho this may be an awesome addition, but too late to use it to its full potential.
But, as always I'm prepared to be proven wrong.
Post by: warbeast on March 02, 2012, 01:16:00 PM
QUOTE(boflc @ Mar 2 2012, 07:22 PM)
two different things and i do not see that happening.
so ur saying they cant add virtual efuses the same way freeboot and xbr does on jtag?
would be nice not to have to mess about every time a retail update is out plus would save alot of hassel with noobs that have demon fitted without knowing what they are doing...
Post by: STICKY_BUD on March 02, 2012, 01:17:00 PM
Post by: RRoD420 on March 02, 2012, 01:28:00 PM
QUOTE(ploggy @ Mar 2 2012, 02:40 PM)
If XBMC is a no go. people should try to port Showtime Mediaplayer to the 360.
http://www.lonelycod...showtime/boards
http://www.lonelycod...showtime/boards
I was going to say, I use Showtime on my PS3 w/ cfw. SICK thats all I can say. Someone needs to get something like THAT on 360!
Post by: modslave on March 02, 2012, 01:35:00 PM
QUOTE(STICKY_BUD @ Mar 2 2012, 09:17 PM)
they will have to show a lot more than that to get me excited... making claims with pictures and no video proof has been done before.
When has TX ever done that!?
Of coarse I'm also excited with this and RGH2 news. Be nice to have dashlaunch features built into a dashboard that can play any media file I throw at it.
It doesn't have to be the XBMC team, anybody that has the skills to port XBMC or Showtime would get a donation from me
I don't care at all if I have to buy some mod chip hardware either.
Post by: pperez664 on March 02, 2012, 02:23:00 PM
Post by: barnhilltrckn on March 02, 2012, 02:35:00 PM
QUOTE(DaBuisneZ @ Mar 2 2012, 11:00 AM)
P.S Great to hear someone is working on something special for emus. By the way you said it it seemed maybe a AIO emu possibly? If so ill throw a benji your way if you make it pull boxart thx in advance
No no no. There will be absolutely NO money thrown at me for that project. It is being done by 2 other devs and since they havent given any details to anyone yet I will NOT say too much about it. This dev has also turned down donation in the past soooo many times it isnt funny. He thinks it isnt right and just will not accept it no matter what, a true dev imho.
I can say that it is a whole new way of ports. Like I said I cant go into much detail but it will totally change the way ports are done from now on. These 2 guys are great devs and well.......you will see.
Sorry to hijack the thread folks so........yea fusion, lets just see if TX can live up to there roots with this. They started in bios dev. back in the day so hopefully they bring the TX back we all used to know.
Post by: Julets on March 02, 2012, 02:51:00 PM
Post by: ploggy on March 02, 2012, 02:52:00 PM
QUOTE(barnhilltrckn @ Mar 2 2012, 09:35 PM)
No no no. There will be absolutely NO money thrown at me for that project. It is being done by 2 other devs and since they havent given any details to anyone yet I will NOT say too much about it. This dev has also turned down donation in the past soooo many times it isnt funny. He thinks it isnt right and just will not accept it no matter what, a true dev imho.
I can say that it is a whole new way of ports. Like I said I cant go into much detail but it will totally change the way ports are done from now on. These 2 guys are great devs and well.......you will see.
Sorry to hijack the thread folks so........yea fusion, lets just see if TX can live up to there roots with this. They started in bios dev. back in the day so hopefully they bring the TX back we all used to know.
I think I know the devs your talking about
Post by: ruciz on March 02, 2012, 04:01:00 PM
QUOTE(Julets @ Mar 2 2012, 10:51 PM)
What is so great about this? Shouldn't they throw in help on something like FreeStyle dash if they are looking to put these kind of things out there? Sorry, it just seems they missed the boat.
everything released up to now is ran off the microsoft kernel, with a few things disabled (like region lock and all that) this is completely another kernel based off the microsoft one - with all current software features embedded into it.. so no need to even have a HDD in the system to do basic things like format partition HDDX, run DLC from a USB stick, or pair the installed drive to the console.
On-The-Fly KV patching is the most interesting. with this we could unleash havoc on XBL as well as easily flash other systems DVD drives (provided we glitched them first to get the decrypted KV)
TX will also likely lead the xbox scene low-level homebrew development, with advances like glitching all CBs including xenon, as well as a corona hack and more reliable trinity hack. But only time can tell what will really happen.
Post by: ddxcb on March 02, 2012, 04:13:00 PM
QUOTE(ruciz @ Mar 2 2012, 03:01 PM)
everything released up to now is ran off the microsoft kernel, with a few things disabled (like region lock and all that) this is completely another kernel based off the microsoft one - with all current software features embedded into it.. so no need to even have a HDD in the system to do basic things like format partition HDDX, run DLC from a USB stick, or pair the installed drive to the console.
On-The-Fly KV patching is the most interesting. with this we could unleash havoc on XBL as well as easily flash other systems DVD drives (provided we glitched them first to get the decrypted KV)
UM this is a MS Devkit kernel modified to add this stuff like freeboot/etc.
QUOTE(warbeast @ Mar 2 2012, 12:16 PM)
so ur saying they cant add virtual efuses the same way freeboot and xbr does on jtag?
would be nice not to have to mess about every time a retail update is out plus would save alot of hassel with noobs that have demon fitted without knowing what they are doing...
This is a Devkit kernel and does not do normal systemupdates.
And even the RGH/SMC *JTAG* do not update normally, they are build to per kernel update to have all the patches and exploit.
Post by: STICKY_BUD on March 02, 2012, 04:23:00 PM
QUOTE(modslave @ Mar 2 2012, 12:35 PM)
When has TX ever done that!?
Of coarse I'm also excited with this and RGH2 news. Be nice to have dashlaunch features built into a dashboard that can play any media file I throw at it.
It doesn't have to be the XBMC team, anybody that has the skills to port XBMC or Showtime would get a donation from me
I don't care at all if I have to buy some mod chip hardware either.
team-xecuter has cancelled products and gone back on claims before; at least a handful of times in fact. they both cancelled products and had huge delays that turned sour sometimes. i am not hating on them, just answering your direct question to the best of my recollection. i have owned and used their products and code, but maybe i am just too old to understand what it takes to get kiddies attention. imho this video was overboard.
we have no idea what all those pretty pictures indicate. even at 720p, you cannot read much of anything. pictures of menus with graphics/words to try to make it mean something, but it is all rubbish until they show something more significant AND it must be something a noob can understand too.
that is my point.
again, i have used their products and code for about 8 years now and i still use x2 to this day in my tsop xbox1, but i have a better question for you than the one you posed to me.
besides that x2 code, and it's updates, has team xecuter EVER released any code that was free for the scene to use without hardware purchase AND that changed everything? seriously!!
if the team releases something for the scene, like they did that one time, and if it is even very useful, not mind blowing, just very useful, EVERYBODY will give them propers.
QUOTE(ruciz @ Mar 2 2012, 03:01 PM)
everything released up to now is ran off the microsoft kernel, with a few things disabled (like region lock and all that) this is completely another kernel based off the microsoft one - with all current software features embedded into it.. so no need to even have a HDD in the system to do basic things like format partition HDDX, run DLC from a USB stick, or pair the installed drive to the console.
On-The-Fly KV patching is the most interesting. with this we could unleash havoc on XBL as well as easily flash other systems DVD drives (provided we glitched them first to get the decrypted KV)
TX will also likely lead the xbox scene low-level homebrew development, with advances like glitching all CBs including xenon, as well as a corona hack and more reliable trinity hack. But only time can tell what will really happen.
see now that is what i am talking about. that video showed nothing like this. if this is all true, i bet it will not be released until team-xecuter is certain it only runs on their hardware. they may not be able to keep it that way, but that will be the goal
again, i am not hating on that.
Post by: Mehtevas on March 02, 2012, 05:22:00 PM
Let's go racing boys!!!
Post by: ddxcb on March 02, 2012, 07:35:00 PM
QUOTE(warbeast @ Mar 2 2012, 05:15 PM)
thanks i didnt know this is built from the Devkit kernel i ment for using dual nand and not having to edit the fusion nand each time the retail side takes a update. could this be done?
The devkit kernel and/or fusion/RGLOADER do not have a CF/CG bootloader, so no you dont need to moddify the LDV on the images. But it is not that hard to do with 360 flash tool for freeboot/ggboot.
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Post by: ruciz on February 02, 2020, 08:42:00 PM
QUOTE(ddxcb @ Mar 3 2012, 12:13 AM)
UM this is a MS Devkit kernel modified to add this stuff like freeboot/etc.
What is currently used for freeboot/xebuild is retail images afaik - which is why you get a retail/stock dashboard.
RGLoader is the closest to running the devkit, which requires devkit firmware. Im not saying they don't use devkit patches in the retail - but RGloader is the only way I know to make an RGH system boot a devkit kernel...
TX are not adding freeboot, they are integrating it.. kernel level, so your DLC will work over a network, your ISOs won't need to be extracted kinda- thing, providing they deliver.
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Post by: ddxcb on March 02, 2012, 09:00:00 PM
QUOTE(Vejita @ Mar 2 2012, 07:34 PM)
Does the Xecuter Fusion kernel always need to be glitched/JTAG'ed to load once it's on the onboard NAND? I'm guessing it can be run off the onboard NAND right and doesn't need a dual NAND solution?
It will be required to be glitched/hacked into, but can be on a single nand on the 360 flash.
QUOTE(ruciz @ Mar 2 2012, 07:42 PM)
What is currently used for freeboot/xebuild is retail images afaik - which is why you get a retail/stock dashboard.
RGLoader is the closest to running the devkit, which requires devkit firmware. Im not saying they don't use devkit patches in the retail - but RGloader is the only way I know to make an RGH system boot a devkit kernel...
TX are not adding freeboot, they are integrating it.. kernel level, so your DLC will work over a network, your ISOs won't need to be extracted kinda- thing, providing they deliver.
RGLoader is like freeboot/ggboot, it uses a patching engine and patches.
TX is doing the same thing, loading the dev kit kernel and then patching it with patches and adding xex and etc...
Post by: Masta-G on March 02, 2012, 11:53:00 PM
We already have the dashlaunch patches for each new kernel that gets released by ms.
And we can be boot those patched kernels using both the jtag mod or the rgh making nearly all xbox360 consoles vulnerable.
Adding more kernel patches and custom options wont get us more emulators nor a media player.
And its stated many times that team xbmc is not interested in porting xbmc using the xbox360 xdk.
So why not write better drivers for running linux instead?
Like for example a galium3d driver for video hardware acceleration, that would be the bomb!
Then we can use the vdpau state tracker and have the xbox360 decode h264 content for us.
tmbnc already gave out examples on how to run shaders directly on the gpu.
Too bad nobody worked it out.
Linux + video acceleration drivers + better sound drivers = XBMC (the latest and greatest) !
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Post by: TAz00 on February 03, 2020, 10:18:00 AM
QUOTE(ruciz @ Mar 2 2012, 05:36 AM)
king kong exploit wasn't publically disclosed until Feb 28 2007 - 5 years ago.
For some reason I don't remember seeing any hype video in December about the exploit. Guess there was some public demonstration though.
Ironic they release this video 5 years to the day almost after.
The reason for that is, if I remember correctly, that they told microsoft about the exploit first.
To let them patch the system, before it was released publicly.
Post by: sighbringer on March 03, 2012, 10:52:00 AM
QUOTE(Semiroundboss @ Mar 3 2012, 10:43 AM)
Is this for the Xbox1 or the 360.
Well, Fusion is a modified Kernel based on the 360 DevKit from what I have read, it only makes sense that this is for XBOX1. Seriously think about things before saying or doing.
Post by: STICKY_BUD on March 03, 2012, 12:06:00 PM
QUOTE(TAz00 @ Mar 3 2012, 09:18 AM)
The reason for that is, if I remember correctly, that they told microsoft about the exploit first.
To let them patch the system, before it was released publicly.
yes, they did not release until later, but they did show it at CCC, or somewhere like that, a few months earlier
Post by: K3thunder on February 03, 2020, 04:50:00 PM
The only things that stand out to me is the cool dvd pair function along with that suspicious "KV generator" for PNET. I'll have to admit this all does feel more like the xbox1 days and there is no complaints in this area Whatsoever!
I can see a collaboration of different methods, different modifications, All used in order to create Fusion, But without the scene I don't see happy days for you all achieving full control over the xbox all in one Dashboard..
ehem.. Not to mention, atm, Fusion is the 13xxx dashboard with added features.
To give a pointer to those who may not know, The "king kong exploit" A game which had a vuln in the way it saved, was demonstrated before a few members of M$.
originally dating back to 2006 as being -worked on. Once word got out in 07' the demonstration was preformed and the scene began to grow more & more towards the jtag method the way they are today.
Most of this has always been potential untapped and nothing was stopping anyone from messing with the kernal/bootloaders since the exploit.
However the main issue that I've always seemed to be angry with is KNOWING about something with substantial possibilities of advancing the scene in regards to kernal/DEV modifications, But never having or being given the resources to do said hacks in the first place.
Then forever later seeing those resources leaked as if it was highly secrete in the first place and should have been public from the git go, imo.
Given people out there are not ready to access PNET responsibly that is understandable with reason.
My point is "we all had the potential of being where we are now 5 years ago with the method of turning a retail console into a devkit."
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Post by: The Prankster on March 03, 2012, 09:56:00 PM
QUOTE(Semiroundboss @ Mar 3 2012, 11:43 AM)
Is this for the Xbox1 or the 360.
Haha.
Post by: ruciz on March 04, 2012, 09:08:00 AM
QUOTE(Twis7eD @ Mar 4 2012, 03:34 AM)
Can't wait! I got into modding primarily after all the Xbox1 custom kernel stuff, so I never got to experience that first hand. Trying this out will be awesome.
that was the only way to mod the xbox1, the dvd drive flashes came out in like 2005 with xbox live support - which lead to the '360' hack everyone as it was touted 'live-safe' (I doubt anyone got away with one xbox for this without being banned since 2005 however)
Post by: xboxmods2977 on March 04, 2012, 01:42:00 PM
Post by: Gazc0igne on March 04, 2012, 02:45:00 PM
i hope you were kidding!
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Post by: ddxcb on March 04, 2012, 11:18:00 PM
QUOTE(rykin @ Mar 4 2012, 08:31 PM)
I'd like to know if this can run Lix homebrew (e.g. PCSXR) and not just XDK stuff. This would be nice as it would remove the need for the XellLoader.
boot into xell?
not hard.
Post by: Toddler on March 05, 2012, 11:47:00 AM
QUOTE(RDJ134 @ Mar 2 2012, 09:11 AM)
Custom boot screen sounds awsome, i never tought the 'good old days' would be back.
I swear, the stupid things that people get excited about. "Forget playing a game, let's see that Ana Beatriz Barros boot screen again."
QUOTE(The Prankster @ Mar 2 2012, 12:15 PM)
the ability to create the 'F*** M$' logo upon bootup...
Years of work for this?
Post by: Toddler on March 05, 2012, 12:02:00 PM
QUOTE
Dash Launch 2.32
----------------
It's been a long fun road full of headaches and cheers, and I'm glad you all
joined me on this journey. 2.32 marks the end of my work on this project as
well as bringing fast patch updates for new versions to other projects now that
the expert-tease of 3rd party product providers steps up to provide... well
that remains to be seen, but look to them when the next update rolls out.
Just a little bonus, its not documented elsewhere but was being worked on as
the next feature, and as it stands it is incomplete. fakelive=true, see what
happens when you use a live account to start an app. There, that is my expert-
tease to punctuate the last 2.5 years of work, and I didn't even try to sell
you a damned thing
----------------
It's been a long fun road full of headaches and cheers, and I'm glad you all
joined me on this journey. 2.32 marks the end of my work on this project as
well as bringing fast patch updates for new versions to other projects now that
the expert-tease of 3rd party product providers steps up to provide... well
that remains to be seen, but look to them when the next update rolls out.
Just a little bonus, its not documented elsewhere but was being worked on as
the next feature, and as it stands it is incomplete. fakelive=true, see what
happens when you use a live account to start an app. There, that is my expert-
tease to punctuate the last 2.5 years of work, and I didn't even try to sell
you a damned thing
Make of it what you will, but he sounds just a little bitter to me.
Post by: ravendrow on March 05, 2012, 05:34:00 PM
Post by: tiderium on March 06, 2012, 08:58:00 AM
Post by: juggahax0r on March 08, 2012, 09:11:00 PM
QUOTE(ravendrow @ Mar 5 2012, 07:34 PM)
if the demon is required it will probably be because they have used a cygnos style SMC kinda like the Pre XBR days.. i can't wait to see it but it should not be locked to the demon and even if it is just give the people some time Freeboot used to be cygnos only too and look what happened they released a single nand option and bam no more cygnos chips in production.
They have already made it pretty clear it won't be locked to the demon .... The Cygnos SMC was for the Jtag hack specifically, because the Cygnos and likewise the Demon was/is capable of handling the Jtag commands, instead of the 360 onboard SMC.
They have never locked anything to their products, not even in the Xbox 1 days , the Xecuter BIOS could be run on any modchip , and on certain boxes on the onboard TSOP.
I'm only stating facts , I can't say I am happy about cOz taking his work private , hopefully Team-X can keep up with the updates , the video only shows version 13604 if I remember correctly. We shall see how it all turns out soon.
Post by: Haygar on March 09, 2012, 06:27:00 PM
QUOTE(TAz00 @ Mar 4 2012, 04:18 AM)
The reason for that is, if I remember correctly, that they told microsoft about the exploit first.
To let them patch the system, before it was released publicly.
Someone should've shot that little softcock from running to M$
. Things would probably have advanced sooo much more quickly from then.That said....free60 did put the word out there that people should sit and wait when the storm was brewing and the jtag hack was about to become a reality for all to have....but most blindly went ahead and updated. Even friends I warned did the same, I'm glad I was not amongst that group.
Post by: OggyUK on March 09, 2012, 06:50:00 PM
You can not criticise a hacker for telling them of their flaws.
Some people reverse engineer because they can, not for any specific gain other than a personal motive, for the challenge.
Whereas some do it for gain, financial and egoistical.
Post by: juggahax0r on March 09, 2012, 07:07:00 PM
QUOTE(OggyUK @ Mar 9 2012, 08:50 PM)
That softcock indirectly plays a part in every exploit of the kernel we've seen to date.
You can not criticise a hacker for telling them of their flaws.
Some people reverse engineer because they can, not for any specific gain other than a personal motive, for the challenge.
Whereas some do it for gain, financial and egoistical.
+1
Yup ... And he could also have decided to ONLY share it with M$ , but he didn't , he shared it with everyone... And everyone saw what happened to failoverflow and geohot for cracking the PS3 right? It was uncharted territory, he didn't know MS wasn't going to sue his pants off , he actually excepted that they might.
We are of course talking about tmbinc , if he hadn't left the scene it actually would have advanced a lot more than it did after he left .... There was a dry spell when he left, until people started putting out XDK software , which is why he left ...
But bottomline he was there for a lot more than just finding and releasing the exploits, he was also active on the XBH forums sharing and absorbing information .... He always wanted to remain legal , and with libxenon only everything was fine ... I'm not going to rant a bunch , but I don't like people talking sh*t about tmbinc , without him there would be no exploits , he did more than find the HV exploit , he also got the 1bl , without which none of this would have been possible, and he built the libxenon toolchain.
QUOTE(Haygar @ Mar 9 2012, 08:54 PM)
Yes, and I suppose for that I indirectly thank him but all of this is a side-effect from what his mission was.......probably personal gain and also, I suppose I cannot blame him (if I was him)
My last word here: Can anyone confirm that just the existing single nand will be all that is required (aside from glitch chips for rgh's)?
They have said plenty of times it will not be locked to the Demon , what more do you want , they themselves have said that. It's a hacked kernel how would you expect them to lock it their chip? It wouldn't then be able to run on the console anyway. The only "lock" on the Cygnos was the SMC , you can change that , and then it runs on the console using the onboard SMC for Jtag writes, RGH has nothing to with Jtag , only the patches that make it reboot indefinitely , which are just patches to the SMC file , the Cygnos uses an onboard controller to do Jtag writing for the Jtag hack , it's not really a lock....
The only reasons you would want a Demon are A. you want to be able to use LIVE still unhacked or B. You develop and want to have 2 nands for different hacked builds. C. Your Xbox has a blown SPI port and you can't use a NandX or other USB flasher to flash it anymore. None of that would cause them to lock it , and as I have said , they have already said no Fusion will not be locked the the Demon , it's just a replacement ala freeBOOT/Xebuild etc .....
Post by: guily666 on March 11, 2012, 11:24:00 AM
I want to J-tag my xbox360, but should I J-tag it now and then can I use this new coming Dashboard with full 100% functionality. Or will it require a new chip from them (for the RGH2.0)?
Thank you!
Keep Cool
Post by: boflc on March 11, 2012, 03:25:00 PM
unless you have a box with a vulnerable CB, you can't 'j-tag' it. you'd be glitching the box with an external cpld, like the digilent c-mod and the team-xecuter coolrunner.
Post by: sinclairuser on March 13, 2012, 07:15:00 PM
i am interested though id love to make the start up swoosh blue or even multi coloured like that sample on you tube
as for xbmc and the like maybe but a native port wont happen no matter how much we crow about
it what we need is a hd display driver then the live xbmc could be used a far more realistic route imo
Post by: guily666 on March 16, 2012, 02:46:00 PM
QUOTE(boflc @ Mar 11 2012, 09:25 PM)
it will not require particular hardware. fusion is a kernel.
unless you have a box with a vulnerable CB, you can't 'j-tag' it. you'd be glitching the box with an external cpld, like the digilent c-mod and the team-xecuter coolrunner.
So it can just simply be aplied to any current J-tag with any kind of chip no matter which one?
And about RGH2.0 what is it? (Will it need a new kind of chip?)
ps: I wanted to get J-tag on my 360, but if a new and better chip is coming I will wait 4 it instead of using the ones that are out there. (So is any new better chip coming soon or should I J-tag mine right now?) I WISH XBMC WOULD BE PORTED TO 360...
Keep Cool
Post by: Haygar on May 09, 2012, 02:16:00 AM
Quote from Team Xecuter:
Features of Xecuter Fusion as of v1.0.6
Requirements:
RGH/RGH2 Console (JTAG Not Supported)
Edit: I hope this is only because of the beta testing at this point, I don't wanna give up my jtag yet.
Post by: avineyard on May 09, 2012, 07:57:00 PM
Post by: Haygar on May 09, 2012, 11:02:00 PM
QUOTE(Haygar @ May 9 2012, 06:16 PM)
Requirements:
RGH/RGH2 Console (JTAG Not Supported)
Edit: I hope this is only because of the beta testing at this point, I don't wanna give up my jtag yet.
Nope, apparently "RGH is the future of console modding" - Translated "Fusion for JTAG will not sell our product ie. coolrunners/demon"
Post by: steveo1978 on May 10, 2012, 12:44:00 AM
QUOTE(Haygar @ May 10 2012, 12:02 AM)
Nope, apparently "RGH is the future of console modding" - Translated "Fusion for JTAG will not sell our product ie. coolrunners/demon"
You should read more of the thread before you make comments like that.
Post by: Haygar on May 10, 2012, 05:30:00 AM
QUOTE(steveo1978 @ May 10 2012, 04:44 PM)
You should read more of the thread before you make comments like that.
If you're talking about this thread, I have. But I'm talking about what is being said over at Team Xecuter and "For now it's RGH only as thats where the future of homebrew is."
Forget about the early adopters who played it safe with updates, we're a minority now.
Post by: steveo1978 on May 10, 2012, 11:59:00 AM
QUOTE(Haygar @ May 10 2012, 06:30 AM)
If you're talking about this thread, I have. But I'm talking about what is being said over at Team Xecuter and "For now it's RGH only as thats where the future of homebrew is."
Forget about the early adopters who played it safe with updates, we're a minority now.
yeah I am referring to the same thread as you and actually the same post. Where Ubergeek said
QUOTE
Probably not. JTAG can't work with some of the features. With JTAG you;d have to load a hell of a lot more from HDD and it can be unstable. For now it's RGH only as thats where the future of homebrew is.
Post by: Haygar on May 11, 2012, 01:47:00 AM
So what does that mean for jtag owners who don't necessarily want to lose the ability to rollback if ever desired?
Can you build a fusion-based rgh image from a pre-8955 stock image and successfully glitch the console (with the required hardware of course)?