Post by: marundy on February 12, 2013, 12:35:00 PM
Thanks in advace. Sorry for my english 
Post by: phrozenfeonix on January 26, 2012, 07:41:00 PM
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Compatible with all Xbox360 models (Except Xenon and Corona boards)
These two features seem to clash for me. If it's HANA independent, then shouldn't it be compatible with corona 360s?
Post by: boflc on January 26, 2012, 07:47:00 PM
corona: no (at least currently): there is no corona-compatible CB for glitching yet. further, the 4gb corona's have a new flash controller that has yet to be reverse engineered. cory1492 said that it does respond to SPI commands at some point, but that it still needed to be RE'ed.
Post by: phrozenfeonix on January 26, 2012, 08:00:00 PM
As for Xenon, I though it was a given xenons were never going to be RGH'ed?
Post by: DARKFiB3R on January 26, 2012, 08:21:00 PM
QUOTE(burnshroom @ Jan 27 2012, 03:10 AM) 
Wouldn't RGH'ing a Xenon be like trying to put nice rims on your uncle's old 1972 Nova. Sure it looks nice but it won't last long enough to be enjoyed...
Add rep, +1, like post. Where are these buttons when you need them?
On a side note, it has a v nice logo.
Post by: kronolynx on January 27, 2012, 01:56:00 AM
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JTAG Programming of onboard Xilinx via USB (No external programmer needed)
SPI Progamming of Xbox360 NAND via USB (No external programmer needed)
SPI Progamming of Xbox360 NAND via USB (No external programmer needed)
so we will be able to RGH our xbox without the need of external hardware ?
no need for nandx to dump the nand or program the chip ?
did i understand right ?
Post by: SNAAAKE on January 27, 2012, 02:01:00 AM
QUOTE(kronolynx @ Jan 27 2012, 03:56 AM)
so we will be able to RGH our xbox without the need of external hardware ?
no need for nandx to dump the nand or program the chip ?
did i understand right ?
yes sounds about right. good for people that dont own any programmer.
personally I will stick to tx coolrunners until someone figures out corona boards.
Post by: Morning Call on January 27, 2012, 06:28:00 AM
the external clock is just for less wires to install with 'possible' corona support for future if anything happens.
Post by: 40_ounce on January 27, 2012, 08:20:00 AM
Post by: tech3475 on January 27, 2012, 08:52:00 AM
QUOTE(burnshroom @ Jan 27 2012, 03:10 AM)
Wouldn't RGH'ing a Xenon be like trying to put nice rims on your uncle's old 1972 Nova. Sure it looks nice but it won't last long enough to be enjoyed...
I would still like to see a xenon version if it's possible since my one is banned and I don't want to RG my XBL console.
Of course with the CPU issue (I thought HANA was only used on slim consoles?) I doubt it.
Post by: kronolynx on January 27, 2012, 10:32:00 AM
QUOTE(40_ounce @ Jan 27 2012, 05:20 PM)
Sounds good time to buy another 360. Now we just need a price. If it's the same price as the coolrunner then you can count me out since I have all the hardware already for installing the coolrunner.
i hope it has a similar price to coolrunner so i don't have to waste money on the nand-x which cost more than the cool runner.
Post by: Blackaddr on January 27, 2012, 10:53:00 AM
I expect comments like this from simple simple copy-cat product manufacturers but Rebug is well respected in the PS3 scene. If they want to put an xtal onboard, it is one less wire to solder and they can choose a clock other than 48 Mhz if they wish. Cool, no problem there, they can state that as a value-add. The standby clock is used only because it's convenient, it has very little to do with the RGH itself.
As for stating that wiring to the HANA is no longer required? What do they think the I2C wires are connected to? I guess we could assume they simply meant wiring a clock wire is no longer required, if so the language used is misleading.
No one knows exactly what will be required for Corona support until someone has made it work. Suggesting "Corona" support in any way at this point is inappropriate.
QUOTE(tech3475 @ Jan 27 2012, 10:52 AM)
Of course with the CPU issue (I thought HANA was only used on slim consoles?) I doubt it.
The chip on a Xenon is labelled "ANA". It takes digital video from the GPU and primarily performs digital-to-analog conversion. When they added HDMI support to the Zephyr, the HDMI functionality was added to the ANA chip and was renamed "HANA".
Corona still has a "HANA", it's just not separate chip anymore.
Post by: pperez664 on January 27, 2012, 12:41:00 PM
Post by: kronolynx on January 27, 2012, 01:37:00 PM
QUOTE(steveo1978 @ Jan 27 2012, 09:10 PM)
My Opinion:
I think this is made more for the people that just want to do one console or maybe a small amount. I think if it runs for around $30 then it would be a better deal then the TX or matrix glitch chip, since you wont have to buy separate to dump the nand and also to program the chips.
that would be great, cuz there's plenty of people like me that only want to do one xbox and is not worth buying the nand-x for the coolrunner .
i hope it doesn't cost more than the cool runner.
i have a question it's compatible with the nand-x v2 but what for ?
Post by: steveo1978 on January 27, 2012, 01:40:00 PM
QUOTE(kronolynx @ Jan 27 2012, 03:37 PM)
that would be great, cuz there's plenty of people like me that only want to do one xbox and is not worth buying the nand-x for the coolrunner .
i hope it doesn't cost more than the cool runner.
i have a question it's compatible with the nand-x v2 but what for ?
No its compatible with nand-pro v2 not nand-x. Nand-pro is the software that is used to dump the 360 nand.
Even if it cost more then the TX its still a better deal for people that just want to RGH one 360.
Post by: DeVante on January 28, 2012, 10:10:00 AM
QUOTE(steveo1978 @ Jan 27 2012, 03:40 PM)
No its compatible with nand-pro v2 not nand-x. Nand-pro is the software that is used to dump the 360 nand.
Even if it cost more then the TX its still a better deal for people that just want to RGH one 360.
Bear with me, I know little about RGH'ing a console. I've JTAG'ed mine but now am researching RGH as I am tired of fixing RROD's on the "phats".
Why would this be single use only? Does that big clear box stay inside of the console?
And side question, does that mean that whatever chip you put in there does the RGH each time the console is turned on, unlike JTAG where once you've hacked it there is no need for additional hardware?
Post by: tech3475 on January 28, 2012, 02:23:00 PM
QUOTE(Blackaddr @ Jan 27 2012, 05:53 PM)
The chip on a Xenon is labelled "ANA". It takes digital video from the GPU and primarily performs digital-to-analog conversion. When they added HDMI support to the Zephyr, the HDMI functionality was added to the ANA chip and was renamed "HANA".
Corona still has a "HANA", it's just not separate chip anymore.
I meant in regards to HANA being used for the hack, not about whether HANA was present.
When I read the RGH summary at free60.org HANA is only mentioned in the Slim section and used because unlike Phat consoles it doesn't have a "CPU_PLL_BYPASS" connection on the mobo, but people keep repeating that HANA is the issue and I've only seen one person on this forum mention a clock generator being the issue.
Post by: birdd on January 28, 2012, 10:34:00 PM
QUOTE(kronolynx @ Jan 27 2012, 02:37 PM)
that would be great, cuz there's plenty of people like me that only want to do one xbox and is not worth buying the nand-x for the coolrunner .
I just want to clarify one thing. The nand-x is not required for programming the TX CoolRunner. You can buy or build a printer port cable to read/write your nand and another one to program the CoolRunner. The nand-x just makes it much faster.
When I decided to do the RGH on my Jasper, I bought the "phat coolrunner bundle" that comes with the printer port cable for the coolrunner since I already had a nand cable from back when I did the JTAG on my xenon console.
If I planned to do more then one or two units I would spend the money on a nand-x because it will save you hours when dumping the nand for each xbox.
Cheers.
Post by: danthaman673 on January 29, 2012, 02:42:00 AM
Thats if there's any left... As for pros/advanced: It might pay off if you plan to play around with ur kernel/Nand a lot and don't want to install a socket... oh wait u still have the same issue there also... don't you? If you have sn SPI then you just add a socket or header so u can use over and over, either way you have to open the case or install an external socket so... why do we need on-board SPI ?? I really dont see the point,to my mind less is better keep it lean and mean. Still I guess it's good to have choices and if they are onto the whole xtal/corona thing then good on them, that will be the only factor (and perhaps price) that might induce me to buy :-)QUOTE(burnshroom @ Jan 27 2012, 12:40 PM)
Wouldn't RGH'ing a Xenon be like trying to put nice rims on your uncle's old 1972 Nova. Sure it looks nice but it won't last long enough to be enjoyed...
Actually a Xenon is like a Corolla: It might have a a couple of design flaws, but overcome them and it will kick-on forever (even if there are more efficient models around) It's funny: When I'm playing FPS on live and some1 complains about their box getting choppy every time some1 drops a smoke grenade I say : 'Are you using a Slim?' and they say :'Yes how did you know?' ;-)
They should replace that silly 'are u buying a kinect poll' with 'Which is the best model 360?' Xenon, Falcon, Jasper, Trinity or Corona?' I'm inclined to say Falcon , maybe Jasper... hmmm there are pro's and cons of each, using less power with smaller cores doesn't always = better as the freq gest diminished more easily, makes me wonder why M$ put in that silly choke on the Slims's southbridge ..
Post by: 1nsan3 on January 30, 2012, 04:12:00 PM
it says all kernels....
thanks