Post by: Xbox-Scene on September 20, 2011, 11:37:00 AM
Matrix Glitcher Speed Test and NAND Flasher Posted by XanTium | September 20 13:37 EST | News Category: Xbox360 |
| The Matrix team released a video showing the speed of their Matrix Glitcher RGH modchip and also announced the release of their own NAND Flasher: Quote
Official Site: http://www.infinitymod.com/ |
Post by: Rad0x on September 20, 2011, 01:13:00 PM
Post by: jm206 on September 20, 2011, 01:19:00 PM
QUOTE(Rad0x @ Sep 20 2011, 08:13 PM) 
A single boot doesn't say shit... it can boot instantly the first time, and take like a minute the next time.
Pretty much this.
It has a 25% chance to boot instantly. Every other time it will have several seconds delay.
Post by: [Imported]Intruder on September 20, 2011, 01:51:00 PM
QUOTE(Rad0x @ Sep 20 2011, 08:13 PM)
A single boot doesn't say shit... it can boot instantly the first time, and take like a minute the next time.
Exactly what I was going to post man.... Would have been better to see a few power cycles to prove it......
And sure you did not know him we believe you
QUOTE
We believe that a third party test done by a professional installer
Post by: ichigo1234 on September 20, 2011, 02:08:00 PM
Post by: Darkjasper on September 20, 2011, 02:08:00 PM
Post by: letsmod on September 20, 2011, 02:15:00 PM
QUOTE(Rad0x @ Sep 20 2011, 12:13 PM)
A single boot doesn't say shit... it can boot instantly the first time, and take like a minute the next time.
that was jsut a quick test but like all others , yes it random boots
1 - 4s boot
2 - 9s boot
3 - 4s boot
4 - 1m2s boot
5 - 14s boot
Post by: RoboChicken on September 20, 2011, 02:21:00 PM
x-s should make an RGH and ODD chart for comparisons like they did with modchips way back when
Post by: crisdo98 on September 20, 2011, 03:26:00 PM
QUOTE(Darkjasper @ Sep 20 2011, 09:08 PM)
On the reseller sites it says the chips are blank and you need a jtag cable. Assuming that would not mean their nand programmer but a whole different cable?
Most likely said to avoid any legal action from Microsoft.. I couldn't see them shipping these blank with the programmer not even yet available.
And as other posters have stated this doesn't show jack. As this uses the exact same components as a C-mod then it will have the same success. My experience is that times vary from 8s to 1m. My first ever boot was 4 secs.. every other boot has been at least 18 secs with the majority of boots between 20 and 30s.
QUOTE(letsmod @ Sep 20 2011, 09:15 PM)
its a whole different cable
that was jsut a quick test but like all others , yes it random boots
1 - 4s boot
2 - 9s boot
3 - 4s boot
4 - 1m2s boot
5 - 14s boot
thanks for the honesty and quick reply to the negative posts including mine.
Post by: Mr10001 on September 20, 2011, 03:43:00 PM
"It features a PIC18F2455 microcontroller for stable and quick reading/writing of all NAND models available on the different XBOX360 models."
* Fully compatible with all XBOX360 NAND models.
Xenon and Falcon come to mind. Glitch doesn't work with Xenon, no HDMI. Current glitch "software" doesn't work with Falcon due to timing.
Per the original Glitch hack posted on 08/28/11...
(expect Xenon, Falcon support will follow later)
The information posted by infinity is misleading without the fine print. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Post by: kl1k on September 20, 2011, 03:57:00 PM
Post by: Morning Call on September 20, 2011, 04:12:00 PM
amazing. thats no matrix glitcher thats a COOL RUNNER and look how fast it works like a champ. lol.
its sad but most companies are going to market their product as faster then others when in reality they are all just about the same.
This post has been edited by Morning Call: Sep 20 2011, 11:14 PM
Post by: LSU_P8tball on September 20, 2011, 04:22:00 PM
QUOTE(Mr10001 @ Sep 20 2011, 04:43 PM)
Does anyone see a problem with these statements...
"It features a PIC18F2455 microcontroller for stable and quick reading/writing of all NAND models available on the different XBOX360 models."
* Fully compatible with all XBOX360 NAND models.
Xenon and Falcon come to mind. Glitch doesn't work with Xenon, no HDMI. Current glitch "software" doesn't work with Falcon due to timing.
Per the original Glitch hack posted on 08/28/11...
(expect Xenon, Falcon support will follow later)
The information posted by infinity is misleading without the fine print.
That board is used to read the NAND and not the glitch. The NAND has always been able to be read, but without the CPU key it was kinda useless. Xenons can be jtaged in which you would need to read the NAND, just can't glitch a Xenon. I know it gets confusing with everyone interchanging words and dubbing their own.
Post by: SNAAAKE on September 20, 2011, 05:23:00 PM
also it says I gotta program the chip. does it come with the jtag cable or I need to get that too? assuming a pre programmed chip would be "illegal" with MS code?
This post has been edited by SNAAAKE: Sep 21 2011, 12:28 AM
Post by: guily666 on September 20, 2011, 06:03:00 PM
QUOTE(RoboChicken @ Sep 20 2011, 09:21 PM)
decisions decisions! so many to chose from
x-s should make an RGH and ODD chart for comparisons like they did with modchips way back when
Yeah, that would be cool, specially because news just don't stop coming...
But still I'm waiting more is for a true dashboard 4 this glitches, and therefore make it fully J-tagged...
Keep Cool
Post by: warbeast on September 20, 2011, 07:31:00 PM
im using a cpld from ebay with a 220pf cap 1st boot was instant but since then ive had everything from 5secs to 5mins im going to give a 270pf a try but im hoping for a jed file with increased boot time from 25%
like others have said its easy to film a few boots then post a video of the fasted so ill stick to what i have...
one thing i would like to know is what the j2c3.2 UART point is used for
This post has been edited by warbeast: Sep 21 2011, 02:36 AM
Post by: jtemag2011 on September 20, 2011, 08:26:00 PM
Post by: Downcastnut on September 20, 2011, 09:40:00 PM
Post by: wlintek on September 20, 2011, 11:20:00 PM
all other chips must be the same.
Bulding a Xilinx program cable is not hard. The diagram is in the released tutorial.
Post by: Bad_Ad on September 21, 2011, 12:41:00 AM
QUOTE(kl1k @ Sep 20 2011, 10:57 PM)
Using a PIC - interesting. Would love to see the schematic for it.
the nand flasher uses a PIC - there are lots of schematics for it. The glitch mod doesnt.
Post by: Downcastnut on September 21, 2011, 12:58:00 AM
QUOTE(wlintek @ Sep 20 2011, 08:40 PM) 
As there are two types of jed files for fat and slim, so the chip must be programmed just before installation.
all other chips must be the same.
Bulding a Xilinx program cable is not hard. The diagram is in the released tutorial.
You think the others are going to be like that too? I hope not....a USB Jtag cable goes for 45$....I guess I could build or buy the lpt one but not that many people have access to a lpt port. Looks like Im reviving my old computer. It gives me something to do while my slim is in transit.
This post has been edited by Downcastnut: Sep 21 2011, 08:00 AM
Post by: kermit007 on September 21, 2011, 03:28:00 AM
QUOTE(RoboChicken @ Sep 20 2011, 01:21 PM)
decisions decisions! so many to chose from
x-s should make an RGH and ODD chart for comparisons like they did with modchips way back when
I'm expecting they likely will, but allot of these haven't even hit the chain yet for live fire testing. I expect someone will likely make one in the next month or so. Wish these ODD hacks weren't averaging $100.
Post by: wlintek on September 21, 2011, 05:58:00 AM
QUOTE(Downcastnut @ Sep 21 2011, 07:58 AM)
You think the others are going to be like that too? I hope not....a USB Jtag cable goes for 45$....I guess I could build or buy the lpt one but not that many people have access to a lpt port. Looks like Im reviving my old computer. It gives me something to do while my slim is in transit.
Well, unless a chip has dual banks, one to glitch the fat and other to glitch the slim, otherwise the end users have to program the chip before installation using the specific jed file.
USB jtag cable is to read /write nand on the xbox not glitch chip. For the glitch chip you need xilinx program cable which is much easier to build. Anyone who can't build that cable is not capable of soldering the glitch chip anyway.
Post by: Zoneout on September 21, 2011, 06:04:00 AM
Tested with a different Jasper console:
You can see, the successful booting varies between the two.
Boot times:
Jasper 1:
3 Sec
8 Sec
4 Sec
16 Sec
10 Sec
31 Sec
3 Sec
Jasper 2:
40 Sec
22 Sec
1 Minute and 5 Seconds
2 minutes and 7 Seconds
30 Sec
Hope this helps.
Cheers!
Zoneout
Post by: Haygar on September 21, 2011, 06:51:00 AM
Was there anything obvious between the 2 consoles that would indicate why? Different manufacture dates, etc.
This post has been edited by Haygar: Sep 21 2011, 01:56 PM
Post by: Perkele on September 21, 2011, 04:51:00 PM
QUOTE(wlintek @ Sep 21 2011, 05:20 AM)
As there are two types of jed files for fat and slim, so the chip must be programmed just before installation.
all other chips must be the same.
You have to solder a bridge on the chip for Fat or Slim mode, so I guess both jed files are on the chip.
Post by: letsmod on September 21, 2011, 07:16:00 PM
Post by: turfster on September 21, 2011, 07:30:00 PM
QUOTE(letsmod @ Sep 21 2011, 09:16 PM)
they chips are blank you set the jumper then program it with the .jed file
Do you sell the device to program it? I'd like to buy one if you do. I ordered a Xilinx Parallel CPLD Programming Cable III PC3 XC2C64A off ebay but its coming from china and taking forever.
This post has been edited by turfster: Sep 22 2011, 02:32 AM
Post by: Downcastnut on September 21, 2011, 08:25:00 PM
QUOTE(wlintek @ Sep 21 2011, 04:58 AM)
Well, unless a chip has dual banks, one to glitch the fat and other to glitch the slim, otherwise the end users have to program the chip before installation using the specific jed file.
USB jtag cable is to read /write nand on the xbox not glitch chip. For the glitch chip you need xilinx program cable which is much easier to build. Anyone who can't build that cable is not capable of soldering the glitch chip anyway.
The Xilinx Jtag cable is a USB/LPT Jtag programming cable. Ill give you a link if you don't believe me. And the cable I was talking about is the LPT version of the Jtag cable. The thing you are thinking about that reads and writes the nand is just a simple LPT nand flasher/reader.
You need a USB Jtag programming cable
Jtag USB cable
or you can get the LPT version
Jtag LPT cable
both of those can be used to program the matrix glitcher, but see my problem is that I dont have a readily available LPT port so its either not buy this and wait or go with the 45$ cable. The USB Jtag cable is WAYYYY too hard to make at least at my experience.
if you dont believe that...then look at the matrix glitcher. See the 4 pins on the side? now look at the Jtag programming cables. They both have the same pins, VCC, TDI, TMS, etc.
This post has been edited by Downcastnut: Sep 22 2011, 03:28 AM
Post by: alukado on September 21, 2011, 08:54:00 PM
Post by: The Ripper on September 22, 2011, 09:22:00 AM
QUOTE(Zoneout @ Sep 21 2011, 01:04 PM)
Our videos with the matrix glitcher:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSBcbGeMDM4
Tested with a different Jasper console:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSOyf4Za3ns
You can see, the successful booting varies between the two.
Boot times:
Jasper 1:
3 Sec
8 Sec
4 Sec
16 Sec
10 Sec
31 Sec
3 Sec
Jasper 2:
40 Sec
22 Sec
1 Minute and 5 Seconds
2 minutes and 7 Seconds
30 Sec
Hope this helps.
Cheers!
Zoneout
Hi guys
I did dump the nand xbox 360 slim, we created image_00000000.ecc i wrote, then programmed matrix reset glitch, i install after diagram on the official site, but does not want to slim boot, only black screen. I do not know what to do. Please you can put an installation diagram to see if i made the wrong somewhere?
Thx you and I apologize for my bad English
This post has been edited by The Ripper: Sep 22 2011, 04:27 PM
Post by: geekay on September 22, 2011, 03:04:00 PM
QUOTE(Downcastnut @ Sep 22 2011, 03:25 AM)
The Xilinx Jtag cable is a USB/LPT Jtag programming cable. Ill give you a link if you don't believe me. And the cable I was talking about is the LPT version of the Jtag cable. The thing you are thinking about that reads and writes the nand is just a simple LPT nand flasher/reader.
You need a USB Jtag programming cable
Jtag USB cable
or you can get the LPT version
Jtag LPT cable
both of those can be used to program the matrix glitcher, but see my problem is that I dont have a readily available LPT port so its either not buy this and wait or go with the 45$ cable. The USB Jtag cable is WAYYYY too hard to make at least at my experience.
if you dont believe that...then look at the matrix glitcher. See the 4 pins on the side? now look at the Jtag programming cables. They both have the same pins, VCC, TDI, TMS, etc.
Any comments on the LPT programmer from Digilent found here:
http://www.digilenti...o...2,395&Cat=5
There are no details of it on the site but it's only $12.
Post by: katerlad on September 22, 2011, 06:19:00 PM
Post by: juggahax0r on September 22, 2011, 07:10:00 PM
QUOTE(geekay @ Sep 22 2011, 05:04 PM)
Any comments on the LPT programmer from Digilent found here:
http://www.digilenti...o...2,395&Cat=5
There are no details of it on the site but it's only $12.
QUOTE(katerlad @ Sep 22 2011, 08:19 PM)
is it possible to use a PCI to parellel card? for the programming cable? they are only around 10 dollars at the store.
@geekay - The $12 Digilent one is what I use , you just have to have an open LPT port on your PC and it works great. I wouldn't fork out the money for the USB one unless you would be programming something bigger. You can also look on Ebay for one that is also around $12 and doesn't need you too hook up the DVD power cable to the CPLD to program it. the $12 digilent one does, but it isn't really a hassle.
@katerlad - I do believe that will work fine as it will have direct hardware access.
edit: I misread katerlad's post thought he was asking about LPT to USB adapter. My bad
Post by: warbeast on September 23, 2011, 05:14:00 AM
QUOTE(katerlad @ Sep 23 2011, 01:19 AM)
is it possible to use a PCI to parellel card? for the programming cable? they are only around 10 dollars at the store.
A pci card is what i used with a diy lpt programmer worked great
You just need to look in device manager and check its lpt1 2 or 3 then make sure xlilnk match
Post by: katerlad on September 24, 2011, 11:05:00 PM
Post by: alukado on September 27, 2011, 03:01:00 AM
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