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Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: Xbox-Scene on March 22, 2010, 05:07:00 PM
NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Posted by XanTium | March 22 19:07 EST | News Category: Xbox360
 
From eurasia.nu:
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GodzIvan strikes again with an update of the Xbox 360 NAND flash write protection chip now called NWP CHIP v2 [Nand Write Protect Chip V2]. This version uses the Xbox 360 native LED ring (instead of a bi-color LED) to show status, so all you need to do is to flash a PIC12F629 microcontroller and install by soldering wires. After checking the diagram I think the solder points looks easier as well.
LED RING RED      -> UNProtected
LED RING GREEN      -> Protected
LED RING ORANGE      -> SETTING
LED RING BLINK GREEN   -> STATE SELECT ENABLE
LED RING BLINK RED   -> STATE SELECT DISABLE
LED RING BLINK ORANGE   -> SAVING

1) TURN OFF THE XBOX
2) STATUS = Press the Sync Botton for 3 secs (GREEN = Protected; RED = UNProtected)
3) SETTING MODE = Press the Sync Botton for 6 secs (till ORANGE = Setting)
4) SET PROTECTION = Press the Sync Botton for changing the setting (BLINKING GREEN = Protected; BLINKING RED = UNProtected)
5) SAVE = Press the Sync Botton for 6 secs (till BLINKING ORANGE = Saving)


GodzIvan also released hex dump and diagrams for CMD RF controller v0.1 which makes it possible to use the Xbox360 RF module (with game controllers) by connecting it to a PC. Thanks for sharing!

Official Site: eurasia.nu
Downloads: NWP CHIP v2 | CMD RF controller v0.1



Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: comhen on March 22, 2010, 05:28:00 PM
Great stuff, reminds me of the Xbox1 days

This post has been edited by comhen: Mar 23 2010, 12:28 AM
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: skyliner99 on March 22, 2010, 05:43:00 PM
looking good
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: JeeBoy on March 22, 2010, 06:12:00 PM
What does this do?
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: brandogg on March 22, 2010, 06:27:00 PM
Gee, I wonder what a "NAND flash write protection chip" does...

Edit - just read the part under the image about using the RF module on a PC. That's awesome, people have been asking about that for years, I guess it just took a little initiative (and a fair bit of knowledge). Nice work, dude.

This post has been edited by brandogg: Mar 23 2010, 01:31 AM
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: dokworm on March 22, 2010, 06:50:00 PM
So you can take the RF module out of a dead 360 and use it to connect wireless controllers to the PC? Or have I read that last line wrong?

I have the official wireless connector dongle anyway, just interested in that last line under the picture.

QUOTE(JeeBoy @ Mar 23 2010, 01:12 AM) *

What does this do?


I think it allows you to protect your 360 by being able to 'write protect' your NAND, i.e. there is no way anything could update your NAND whilst you had write protect enabled.You would have to turn off the write protection first before being able to flash your NAND.

So it is a way to protect your 360 against accidental flashing by you or less savvy family members, or via a stealth update from a new game or over the net.
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: linkinworm1 on March 22, 2010, 06:59:00 PM
i take it you need to mod your controller leds?
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: minooch on March 22, 2010, 07:12:00 PM
QUOTE(linkinworm1 @ Mar 23 2010, 11:59 AM) View Post
i take it you need to mod your controller leds?


 

No - Read the article again - You don't touch the controller, its uses the sync button on the console
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: Lush on March 22, 2010, 07:49:00 PM
the RF feature is a novel idea...
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: Porta360 on March 22, 2010, 07:54:00 PM
Seems like this is to just help you stay on point.
keep working tho, getting better and better.
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: JeeBoy on March 22, 2010, 08:01:00 PM
QUOTE(brandogg @ Mar 23 2010, 01:27 AM) *

Gee, I wonder what a "NAND flash write protection chip" does...

Edit - just read the part under the image about using the RF module on a PC. That's awesome, people have been asking about that for years, I guess it just took a little initiative (and a fair bit of knowledge). Nice work, dude.

AND??? Why would u wanna write protect the NAND?
Please explain what good this is for and to the homebrew instead of being a shithead who just came from his moms ass.
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: nomorgow on March 22, 2010, 08:18:00 PM
QUOTE(JeeBoy @ Mar 22 2010, 09:01 PM) View Post

AND??? Why would u wanna write protect the NAND?
Please explain what good this is for and to the homebrew instead of being a shithead who just came from his moms ass.

Primarly, this will protect you from microsoft crippling your 360/profile and nulling your secdata over live.  

I'm not sure how it would work with kernel/efuse/dashboard updates, but the only reason why i looked into doing it in the past was because of that.
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: corruptsector on March 22, 2010, 09:00:00 PM
Does this use the original bin file that was for the v1 of the mod? and is it just different solder points for the IC?
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: GOTitCUZiMODDED on March 22, 2010, 09:31:00 PM
Wow, this is awesome!  And here I am, going thru my old modchips and I found a tube full of 12f629 PIC chips!  This will make me feel better when I sell all these jTAGGED consoles as I feared the the R6T3 method might not be enough.  Great job!  Keep them coming!   biggrin.gif
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: TheGlow on March 22, 2010, 10:02:00 PM
Anyone got a link to that diagram for the RF module?
I tried joining that site 3x and always says passwords no good.
I fill out for new one, sends it, that dont work..
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: brandogg on March 22, 2010, 11:38:00 PM
QUOTE(JeeBoy @ Mar 22 2010, 10:01 PM) View Post

AND??? Why would u wanna write protect the NAND?
Please explain what good this is for and to the homebrew instead of being a shithead who just came from his moms ass.

No need for the flames, guy. If you don't know what write-protecting the NAND would be good for, then this does not concern you. Obviously it's so you can write protect your NAND (and show the status, let you turn off the protection, etc) so you (or anyone else) doesn't accidentally (or purposely) update your JTAG'ed (or JTAG-able) console, which would make it "retail for life."

The benefits - it looks cool, and you only need to install this chip once, then you can just use the sync button to enable/disable write protection to the NAND.
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: Juvenal1228 on March 23, 2010, 12:23:00 AM
does anyone know of any reason a pic12f683 couldn't be substituted for the pic12f629 with the RF part of this?
just tried it with a 12f683 and it was no-go, windows recognized it as an "unknown device" but after manually installing the wireless drivers for it from MS's site it said it was working correctly. this is with and without the PIC

either way sync is a no-go and the power LED on the ROL doesn't light.

only thing i could think of was the PIC, because i checked every connection multiple times.

can't see why it wouldn't be compatible tho, same OSC, same GPIO, double flash/ram
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: nomorgow on March 23, 2010, 06:08:00 AM
Since i havent spent the few minutes to search, how expensive is it to acquire the hardware to flash one of those PIC chips?
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: efegue on March 23, 2010, 06:31:00 AM
looking good smile.gif
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: rulevoid on March 23, 2010, 06:39:00 AM
I have a ton of 12F683's has anyone seen a version for the 683?
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: idog on March 23, 2010, 07:43:00 AM
QUOTE
This Xbox 360 modification does not stop the ban from M$, but it stops the deletion of the HD installation certificates required by games (if the flash type has different pinout, just find the datasheet to locate WP). NOTE: In order to update the kernel this mod must be disabled; a simple switch solution comes to mind. Zip file includes PNG diagram.


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Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: deecee on March 23, 2010, 11:30:00 AM
Don't know why anyone would want this when r6t3 removal is so easy.
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: Craigsblackie on March 23, 2010, 12:26:00 PM
QUOTE(akijikan @ Mar 23 2010, 05:33 PM) View Post

is it difficult to build a programmer for the PIC12F629



Not at all.
IPB Image
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: akijikan on March 23, 2010, 02:17:00 PM
QUOTE(Craigsblackie @ Mar 23 2010, 02:26 PM) View Post

Not at all.


Wow that is simple, looks like the the USB is just for power and I can use WxPic with it?
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: nomorgow on March 23, 2010, 04:40:00 PM
QUOTE(akijikan @ Mar 23 2010, 03:17 PM) View Post

Wow that is simple, looks like the the USB is just for power and I can use WxPic with it?

Wow! Agreed! And yes, those pinouts for usb just deliver power.

Now the bigger question is if we can get that PIC at the local radioshack. Hehe.
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: oisuxx on March 23, 2010, 05:00:00 PM
so just a heads up to everyone. you can get free samples of pics from http://www.microchip.com/samples/
all you need to do is register an email account (or numerous depending on how many "samples" you want...for wii chips i had about 30 samples) from here http://www.tshirthel...m/emailhell.htm i use the @angryforlife.com for all my sample accounts. basically if you want to be an ass you could create 100 accounts and get 300 free samples of any pic you need. figured id pass this along, since i did it a few times for wii modchips back in the day.
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: Juvenal1228 on March 23, 2010, 05:07:00 PM
QUOTE(oisuxx @ Mar 23 2010, 07:00 PM)  

so just a heads up to everyone. you can get free samples of pics from http://www.microchip.com/samples/
all you need to do is register an email account (or numerous depending on how many "samples" you want...for wii chips i had about 30 samples) from here http://www.tshirthel...m/emailhell.htm i use the @angryforlife.com for all my sample accounts. basically if you want to be an ass you could create 100 accounts and get 300 free samples of any pic you need. figured id pass this along, since i did it a few times for wii modchips back in the day.

or, you could go to digikey.com and get them for $1.40 a piece and not waste hours of your time making accounts only to find out your samples aren't coming...
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: oisuxx on March 23, 2010, 07:08:00 PM
forget it..
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: nomorgow on March 23, 2010, 07:33:00 PM
QUOTE(Juvenal1228 @ Mar 23 2010, 06:07 PM)  

or, you could go to digikey.com and get them for $1.40 a piece and not waste hours of your time making accounts only to find out your samples aren't coming...

Can you tell me which of those we should use?

http://search.digike...C12F629-E/SN-ND
That?
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: Juvenal1228 on March 23, 2010, 09:36:00 PM
i would use this one

http://search.digike...IC12F629-I/P-ND

as the one you picked is much smaller, making it harder to solder/program/handle in general
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: monit on March 28, 2010, 03:12:00 PM
I couldn't flash the PIC, and it always shows a Error Message in last step (Verify) and PIC remains empty, I have tried all possible programms like WinPic800, ICProg, PicProg2009 and so on, my Programmer is a JDM Programmer which supports this PIC definitly, would somebody help me with which Program and Settings I can flash it? many thanks.
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: sandman_br on April 01, 2010, 08:49:00 AM
there is a port for avr family microcontrolers?
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: monit on April 01, 2010, 04:09:00 PM
can please somebody help me to program the PIC?
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: -Gadget- on April 03, 2010, 08:56:00 AM
If ya in the UK near EAST coast i can smile.gif

but my Q is, can this be used to link up wireless headsets to PC ??
or are there not any drivers to get sound etc ??
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: aaa111 on April 29, 2010, 06:46:00 AM
Hi, guys.

With the new RF module (RF02) this NWP CHIP v2 does not work sad.gif !!!

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1 pin - VDD (+3.3V)
2 pin - USB DATA -
3 pin - USB DATA +
4 pin - VSS

5 pin - ???
6 pin - is not DATA. What ???
7 pin - is not clock (CLK), in the new module is now DATA!
8 pin - ???
9 pin - CLK 130Hz !

If someone is already looking to the new module, then write what you learn.
Title: NWP CHIP v2 and CMD RF controller released
Post by: aaa111 on May 04, 2010, 08:20:00 AM
New RF module (RF02)
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