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Title: Small Xbox 360 Motherboard Revision: GPU-revision, RF-Module
Post by: Xbox-Scene on December 04, 2009, 11:06:00 PM
Small Xbox 360 Motherboard Revision: GPU-revision, RF-Module
Posted by XanTium | December 5 01:06 EST | News Category: Xbox360
 
MODFREAKz posted pictures of an Xbox 360 (MFR Date 2009-09-20) with a somewhat updated motherboard revision. No huge changes, so it's probably still a Jasper.

It seems to have a new GPU-revision (Kronos1), new RF-module and some small layout changes. CPU, HANA, southbridge, 16mb NAND, RAM are same. No heatsink changes either, MS stopped using the 2nd GPU heatsink/pipe a while ago already.
The DVD drive is a Lite-On DG-16D2S 93450C-2.
The CB/CD are of course JTAG-fixed as with any 360 made since ~mid-June.
(IMG:http://pictures.xbox-scene.com/xbox360/jasperv2/STP67402-400.jpg)
(IMG:http://pictures.xbox-scene.com/xbox360/jasperv2/STP67395-200.jpg) (IMG:http://pictures.xbox-scene.com/xbox360/jasperv2/STP67418-200.jpg)

More Pictures: MODFREAKz at XBH (x-s mirror)



Title: Small Xbox 360 Motherboard Revision: GPU-revision, RF-Module
Post by: k12k08 on December 04, 2009, 11:16:00 PM
Maybe a xbox slim along the way?
Title: Small Xbox 360 Motherboard Revision: GPU-revision, RF-Module
Post by: Mr.RedRing on December 04, 2009, 11:17:00 PM
They aren't using epoxy on the edges of the chips now to keep the chip from warping.  They must be getting pretty confident.
Title: Small Xbox 360 Motherboard Revision: GPU-revision, RF-Module
Post by: vvk on December 04, 2009, 11:30:00 PM
QUOTE
The CB/CD are of course JTAG-fixed as with any 360 made since mid-June.
Did I buy a Jasper that can not be JTAG,my MFD is 15 july 2009 120g elit,the dashboard is exploitable 2.0.7363.0?Is this for certain?
Title: Small Xbox 360 Motherboard Revision: GPU-revision, RF-Module
Post by: XanTium on December 04, 2009, 11:54:00 PM
QUOTE(vvk @ Dec 5 2009, 07:30 AM) *

Did I buy a Jasper that can not be JTAG,my MFD is 15 july 2009 120g elit,the dashboard is exploitable 2.0.7363.0?Is this for certain?


What matters for the JTAG hack is the CB (and CD indirectly) version.
Now if you have an old Xbox 360 ... it's easy to know ... Microsoft updated and locked those to a non-exploitable version with the 849x update.
For "new" 360s it's a different story tho, Microsoft started using the fixed CB before they shipped them with 8498 onboard. So it's very possible to have a 7xxx kernel but with a fixed/locked CB already. From user reports we know MS started shipping with the fixed CB around mid June 2009. But that date might vary based on production plant and line.
Title: Small Xbox 360 Motherboard Revision: GPU-revision, RF-Module
Post by: jester on December 05, 2009, 12:06:00 AM
QUOTE(XanTium @ Dec 5 2009, 01:54 AM) *

What matters for the JTAG hack is the CB (and CD indirectly) version.
Now if you have an old Xbox 360 ... it's easy to know ... Microsoft updated and locked those to a non-exploitable version with the 849x update.
For "new" 360s it's a different story tho, Microsoft started using the fixed CB before they shipped them with 8498 onboard. So it's very possible to have a 7xxx kernel but with a fixed/locked CB already. From user reports we know MS started shipping with the fixed CB around mid June 2009. But that date might vary based on production plant and line.

^ this.

Easiest way to find out is to wire up the LPT points and dump your NAND, open the image in 360 Flash Tool, and report back which CB you have.
Title: Small Xbox 360 Motherboard Revision: GPU-revision, RF-Module
Post by: vvk on December 05, 2009, 12:17:00 AM
That is a f*****g dilema open the box and solder-dump-check and the warrantys gone or sold it with the warranty intact,and look for an older MFD.btw sorry for this offtopic.


This post has been edited by vvk: Dec 5 2009, 08:19 AM
Title: Small Xbox 360 Motherboard Revision: GPU-revision, RF-Module
Post by: m82a1 on December 05, 2009, 12:35:00 AM
when you click the pics on the front page, they resort to 404's

This post has been edited by m82a1: Dec 5 2009, 08:39 AM
Title: Small Xbox 360 Motherboard Revision: GPU-revision, RF-Module
Post by: XanTium on December 05, 2009, 01:20:00 AM
QUOTE(m82a1 @ Dec 5 2009, 08:35 AM) *

when you click the pics on the front page, they resort to 404's


fixed. thx.
Title: Small Xbox 360 Motherboard Revision: GPU-revision, RF-Module
Post by: jester on December 05, 2009, 01:55:00 AM
I wonder if Valhalla revision has been scrapped?  uhh.gif
Title: Small Xbox 360 Motherboard Revision: GPU-revision, RF-Module
Post by: E-Vix on December 05, 2009, 04:32:00 AM
I've got the same RF module in my Elite dated 2009-09-07. The drive is a Lite-on 83450C V2. I haven't checked checked to see if I also have the Kronos GPU.
I've dumped the NAND, but I couldn't get Xell running because the CD/CB was already at version 6750, so JTAG was already disabled... DB was at 7363 originally but it was updated to 84xx or 85xx when I played H3:ODST.
The big difference in the RF module is that all components are moved to the back. Also there are is room for 2 connectors on the RF module itself, but the connectors aren't soldered on yet. Maybe MS will add some new features to those connectors in the future, or maybe they are just there for debugging.
Title: Small Xbox 360 Motherboard Revision: GPU-revision, RF-Module
Post by: Ranger72 on December 05, 2009, 08:38:00 AM
I got got one of these a month ago. I was going to post some pics of it but put it off too long I guess.
Title: Small Xbox 360 Motherboard Revision: GPU-revision, RF-Module
Post by: Zack_sparrow on December 05, 2009, 03:37:00 PM
is jsut change the gpu?
have any port's postion been change?specific of nand
Title: Small Xbox 360 Motherboard Revision: GPU-revision, RF-Module
Post by: funky26cro on December 05, 2009, 07:19:00 PM
it seems they finaly changed solder balls material as they are so confident to put it without glue i got one of those mobo in elite manufactured 2009-08-02 drive 83450c v1 i was like looking all around for those boxes with 83450 v1 drives as later ones was not dumpable at time lol got assured 100% that drive was 83450c v1 and flashable by store
Title: Small Xbox 360 Motherboard Revision: GPU-revision, RF-Module
Post by: Br0k3R on December 07, 2009, 01:25:00 PM
QUOTE(funky26cro @ Dec 6 2009, 03:19 AM) *

got assured 100% that drive was 83450c v1 and flashable by store



you mean 74850C (liteon v1)

83850c is liteon v2
Title: Small Xbox 360 Motherboard Revision: GPU-revision, RF-Module
Post by: Shoush991 on December 09, 2009, 06:43:00 AM
Flashable or not possible? maybe in the future? just wondering because I'm looking to buy a new system but have had bad luck with consoles getting rrod/e74 on me.
Title: Small Xbox 360 Motherboard Revision: GPU-revision, RF-Module
Post by: Thundercleese on December 11, 2009, 03:59:00 AM
QUOTE(Br0k3R @ Dec 7 2009, 09:25 PM) *

you mean 74850C (liteon v1)

83850c is liteon v2



No there is 74850C, 83850c v1, 83850c v2 , 9xxxxc.
Title: Small Xbox 360 Motherboard Revision: GPU-revision, RF-Module
Post by: under420dog on December 12, 2009, 08:10:00 PM
about the solder ball issue...
nothing changed but the flux they were using...the older stuff caused residue
on and in the balls there self..so when the chip heated up...the solderballs tried to push out the bad  residue
causing an incomplete connection...
Title: Small Xbox 360 Motherboard Revision: GPU-revision, RF-Module
Post by: under420dog on December 13, 2009, 03:36:00 AM
woops sorry.......erm Merry Christmas
Title: Small Xbox 360 Motherboard Revision: GPU-revision, RF-Module
Post by: Martinchris23 on December 16, 2009, 01:57:00 AM
Typical - not seen any Lite-on except 74850 then get one of these! Used the rear of the PCB to dump the firmware. Mfg date 2009-08-25.