Post by: Penfoldian on August 25, 2004, 07:26:00 AM
This post has been edited by Penfoldian on Aug 25 2004, 02:28 PM
Post by: DOS4GW on August 25, 2004, 10:41:00 AM
There are no stupid questions, only stupid people.
This post has been edited by DOS4GW on Aug 26 2004, 12:44 AM
Post by: crobar on August 25, 2004, 10:45:00 AM
Post by: Penfoldian on August 26, 2004, 01:58:00 PM
| QUOTE (DOS4GW @ Aug 25 2004, 05:41 PM) |
| The definition of hack/hacking is to break into a computer network or system without authorization. There are no stupid questions, only stupid people. |
Do you feel sweet about what you have just posted now? Does that make you some what better than me? Just cause you know s h i t, dont mean you can put people down cause of it.
Maybe you misunderstood my question,
Is it true that SniperKilla figured out a way to you use modded cars on xboxlive?
For I have heard rumours about a Ferrari Challenge where by the Car was raced around the track "...bounce off the side twice and was at the finish line..."
Also I have heard that MS have been asking him for some time how he did it. To add there is meant to be others doing the same modifications that allow them to use modded cars on live.
Symantecs is probably why you feel that my question earlier was stupid...
Post by: DOS4GW on August 26, 2004, 04:36:00 PM
When you asked if sniper hacked xboxlive, as defined, hacked into the ms live server, to use his modded cars, you're lucky someone even bothered to answere.
This post has been edited by DOS4GW on Aug 26 2004, 11:37 PM
Post by: skit_____ on August 27, 2004, 04:44:00 AM
Post by: DOS4GW on August 27, 2004, 05:59:00 AM
Post by: SniperKilla on August 27, 2004, 07:51:00 AM
Post by: Heet on August 27, 2004, 08:18:00 AM
That isnt the definition of hacking. "The definition of hack/hacking is to break into a computer network or system without authorization" 
Sniperkilla Im baffled at how you can be playing 4 games simultaneously on xlink
Post by: SniperKilla on August 27, 2004, 08:29:00 AM
| QUOTE (Heet @ Aug 27 2004, 03:21 PM) |
| A) Yes there is a way to do it That isnt the definition of hacking. "The definition of hack/hacking is to break into a computer network or system without authorization" Sniperkilla Im baffled at how you can be playing 4 games simultaneously on xlink |
ha stupid losers with my profile.. the only me is sniperkil on live
Post by: DOS4GW on August 27, 2004, 10:55:00 AM
Heet: Are you claming the definition of hacking I wrote is false?
This post has been edited by DOS4GW on Aug 27 2004, 05:55 PM
Post by: joseph_hac on August 27, 2004, 10:21:00 AM
| QUOTE (DOS4GW @ Aug 26 2004, 05:36 PM) |
| I pointed out two facts, and if someone gets insulted by that, its not my problem. When you asked if sniper hacked xboxlive, as defined, hacked into the ms live server, to use his modded cars, you're lucky someone even bothered to answere. |
| QUOTE |
| To accomplish a result in an unorthodox way. |
Which is what SnipaKiller would have done to use modified cars on xbox live. Right?
I think you have a bit of a superiority compex.
Post by: DOS4GW on August 27, 2004, 11:32:00 AM
Define: Unorthodox
The google define results doesn't have a quality check. Its an automated service.
You are as clueless as the rest of the n00bs here.
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Post by: DOS4GW on August 27, 2004, 11:34:00 AM
Post by: joseph_hac on August 27, 2004, 11:54:00 AM
Anyway. I'm not going to sit here and argue/lookup dictionary terms with you all day. You're an asshole. Anyone who reads this thread will agree your an asshole. End of discussion. Good day!
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I also think your definitions of unorthadox strengthens my point.
| QUOTE |
| independent in behavior or thought |
Does everyone edit config files to modify cars and play on live? No. That sounds like an idependant thought or behaviour to me!
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This post has been edited by joseph_hac on Aug 27 2004, 06:58 PM
Post by: DOS4GW on August 27, 2004, 10:53:00 AM
So much for knowledge....
Edited for not making another post:
To dubble post means to post the same followup twice mr wiseguy.
I'm sure anyone calling editing plain text unorthodox, and hacking agree I'm an asshole.
Post by: joseph_hac on August 27, 2004, 10:58:00 AM
| QUOTE (DOS4GW @ Aug 27 2004, 12:56 PM) |
| So your knowledge is based on your x-s status? So much for knowledge.... |
Did I say that? I just think it's funny you called me a n00b when I have 600 some-odd posts and about 19 months of membeship over you. Not that it means anything about my status or credibility, but it's still funny. Good day!
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| QUOTE |
| You are as clueless as the rest of the n00bs here. |
As opposed to you trying to make people sound stupid instead of helping to answer their question?
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Post by: DOS4GW on August 27, 2004, 11:03:00 AM
Sniper is far from the only one modding cars, and racing them on live.
Don't speak when you don't have a clue of what you are talking about.
Post by: joseph_hac on August 27, 2004, 11:05:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| This is just bullshit! Your number of x-s posts doesn't tell anything about your knowledge. |
Didn't I just say that?
| QUOTE |
| Sniper is far from the only one modding cars, and racing them on live. |
A side from a few people on X-S, I'm sure he is.
Like I said before, I am not going to sit here and argue with you. Any rebuttles you have will go unanswered. Good day!
Post by: SniperKilla on August 27, 2004, 02:19:00 PM
| QUOTE (DOS4GW @ Aug 27 2004, 06:06 PM) |
| This is just bullshit! Your number of x-s posts doesn't tell anything about your knowledge. And you just proved you the opposite. How stupid are you? Sniper is far from the only one modding cars, and racing them on live. Don't speak when you don't have a clue of what you are talking about. |
actually.. i was the first.. and the only others are 2 very close friends
Post by: DOS4GW on August 27, 2004, 04:22:00 PM
But claiming this is hacking and even unorthodox, is plain bullshit. I think you can agree on that too. I don't know wich of the two ways you use, but both are pretty logical.
However, based on some of the people here, I'm not suprised there aren't more..
Post by: SniperKilla on August 27, 2004, 05:08:00 PM
Post by: joseph_hac on August 27, 2004, 06:05:00 PM
| QUOTE (SniperKilla @ Aug 27 2004, 07:11 PM) |
| wow using hacked cars on kai and using them on live is 2 completly different things |
You got in shit/approached by Microshaft?
Post by: DOS4GW on August 27, 2004, 06:57:00 PM
| QUOTE (SniperKilla @ Aug 28 2004, 01:11 AM) |
| wow using hacked cars on kai and using them on live is 2 completly different things |
Ehh, my bad. Misplaced live with kai...
Post by: joseph_hac on August 29, 2004, 03:54:00 PM
| QUOTE (DOS4GW @ Aug 27 2004, 09:00 PM) |
| Ehh, my bad. Misplaced live with kai... |
Was that an apology?
Post by: DOS4GW on August 29, 2004, 04:04:00 PM
I'm sorry sniper, for writing kai insead of live. The two guys claimed to use modded cars on live aswell.
Happy now joseph_hac?
Babble all you want, when you call editing text, installing software, and/or burning a disc hacking you're way off..
Post by: Penfoldian on August 30, 2004, 06:18:00 AM
My point is due to my understanding of the word Hack, Edit, Modify etc anything to do with changing something from what is was meant to do to me is hacking. But this is based on my understanding and how the these terms have evolved over time.
The thing is "DOS4GW" fully knew what i was on about, but decided to be difficult (which reminds of a guy called "stallion v1") and attempted to embarassed me thinking of me as a "nOOb" yet defending SniperKilla's secrets in turn not answering my post. Which in most cases would have never escalated and would have dissappeared down into all the other unsanswered posts.
This post is getting kinda long now so I will finish with .... Hey SniperKilla, I love to cheat everynow and then, spread the love and show us how u do it mate!
Just to add, if this word hack means..as DOS4GW puts "The definition of hack/hacking is to break into a computer network or system without authorization"
Then why is this Sub Forum Heading Called GAME HACKING?
Post by: DOS4GW on August 31, 2004, 03:10:00 PM
| QUOTE (Penfoldian @ Aug 30 2004, 02:21 PM) |
| Then why is this Sub Forum Heading Called GAME HACKING? |
A person that hack is a hacker. Based on that fact I guess you will call yourself a hacker, since you clame editing text is hacking.
I also guess joseph_hac calles everyone that does things in their own way hackers...
Ask the moderators why they have choosen to use that word. Argueing over fatcs is idiotic, and its about time you open your eyes.
What we have here is editing, and that includes the whole sublevel. There are some threads about cracking, but still far from hacking.
Post by: Penfoldian on September 02, 2004, 11:16:00 AM
Anyway you continue to avoid the main reason for my post, but hey I dont want you to anwser it anymore not that i wanted you to in the first place, but thanks for wasting your time and giving my some amusing posts.
P.S. "All that knowlege yet no wisdom or understanding of how to use it..." I pitty you.
Post by: Heykrop on September 02, 2004, 11:48:00 AM
End of Legal 101
Good Day!
Post by: DOS4GW on September 02, 2004, 02:20:00 PM
| QUOTE (Heykrop @ Sep 2 2004, 07:51 PM) |
| Lets just sufice it to say that, in order for Sniper or any others to race on LIVE with a modified car in PGR2 they first needed to HACK their xbox by using a method to circumvent the pretection schemes imposed by M$. Therfore by definition they are connecting to the live servers using HACKED content ie.. The text files that were on an encrypted/protected DVD and Console. As such these files were NEVER intended to be modified by the end user and in such case are now deemed as compromised or hacked files. With that being said. By the definition of the DMCA and US law they are in violation of these laws and can be deemed as hackers. End of Legal 101 Good Day! |
Lol. Dude, you're mixing cracking and hacking.
Post by: DOS4GW on September 02, 2004, 02:22:00 PM
| QUOTE (Penfoldian @ Sep 2 2004, 07:19 PM) |
| I dont claim it to be so, I understand that the topic of editing etc is a form of hacking and so forth whether its right or wrong its just how i percieve it to be. Anyway you continue to avoid the main reason for my post, but hey I dont want you to anwser it anymore not that i wanted you to in the first place, but thanks for wasting your time and giving my some amusing posts. P.S. "All that knowlege yet no wisdom or understanding of how to use it..." I pitty you. |
Petty me all you want. Based on your second post here I petty you.
Post by: DOS4GW on September 02, 2004, 04:08:00 PM
Post by: Penfoldian on September 03, 2004, 04:00:00 AM
| QUOTE (DOS4GW @ Sep 2 2004, 10:25 PM) |
| Petty me all you want. Based on your second post here I petty you. |
Are you angry? Upset ? Feeling picked on?
Listen mate, in the real world there are ignorant people and kind people who dont need to carry on the way you have. I asked and simple question, so what if the question may have seem dumb to you but to me it was not and thats were you crossed the line and became disrespectful to someone you dont know of which I'm sure you parents brought you up with a thing called "Commen Decency"
I pitty you because you know so much yet you look down on others for not knowing what you know. (By now your thinking "But I help Everyone on this forum...") True as that may seem but I'm a witness to the side of your ignorance of which I no longer wish to experience.
At the end of the day you choose to help and be a active member of this site, but dont let it get to your head... its only for fun why we this...hobbies...and stuff like that...you know...you be nice someone will be nice back.
Post by: DOS4GW on September 03, 2004, 07:34:00 AM
Be my guest and go "hack" your ini files.
Post by: chucky16 on September 03, 2004, 09:40:00 AM
Post by: DOS4GW on September 03, 2004, 09:48:00 AM
Post by: gcskate27 on September 03, 2004, 10:16:00 AM
Post by: DOS4GW on September 03, 2004, 11:35:00 AM
If they do have wep enabled, you CRACK the signature, once you're in, you've HACKED access to the network.
You can also HACK a website, and I'd call a person that calls Outlaws n00bs for a clueless person.
HACKING r00t at serves, gatering lists of shell accounts with users and passes is the most common HACKING today.
Have a peek in a nfo phile from some warez you've grabbed. Look a crew info, can you see any HACKERS? No. You've got 90% crackers and coders, the rest is testers...
Post by: gcskate27 on September 03, 2004, 03:24:00 PM
Post by: X2Gamer on September 03, 2004, 03:44:00 PM
Post by: gcskate27 on September 03, 2004, 04:32:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| hacker n. [originally, someone who makes furniture with an axe] 1. A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary. 2. One who programs enthusiastically (even obsessively) or who enjoys programming rather than just theorizing about programming. 3. A person capable of appreciating hack value. 4. A person who is good at programming quickly. 5. An expert at a particular program, or one who frequently does work using it or on it; as in `a Unix hacker'. (Definitions 1 through 5 are correlated, and people who fit them congregate.) 6. An expert or enthusiast of any kind. One might be an astronomy hacker, for example. 7. One who enjoys the intellectual challenge of creatively overcoming or circumventing limitations. 8. [deprecated] A malicious meddler who tries to discover sensitive information by poking around. Hence `password hacker', `network hacker'. The correct term for this sense is cracker. The term `hacker' also tends to connote membership in the global community defined by the net (see the network and Internet address). For discussion of some of the basics of this culture, see the http://www.tuxedo.or...cker-howto.html, How To Become A Hacker FAQ. It also implies that the person described is seen to subscribe to some version of the hacker ethic (see hacker ethic). It is better to be described as a hacker by others than to describe oneself that way. Hackers consider themselves something of an elite (a meritocracy based on ability), though one to which new members are gladly welcome. There is thus a certain ego satisfaction to be had in identifying yourself as a hacker (but if you claim to be one and are not, you'll quickly be labeled bogus). See also wannabee. This term seems to have been first adopted as a badge in the 1960s by the hacker culture surrounding TMRC and the MIT AI Lab. We have a report that it was used in a sense close to this entry's by teenage radio hams and electronics tinkerers in the mid-1950s. |
so yes, editing files, though easy, is also hacking...
Post by: DOS4GW on September 03, 2004, 08:32:00 PM
So go "hack" your inis n00b.
Post by: DOS4GW on September 03, 2004, 08:33:00 PM
| QUOTE (X2Gamer @ Sep 3 2004, 11:47 PM) |
| wow this topic has become a topic on grammer and proper use of words. This is kinfd of pointless however to argue over how to properly use the word "hack". I tihnk DOS4GW has the right idea of what hacking means. |
Finaly..
Post by: gcskate27 on September 03, 2004, 09:50:00 PM
well have fun script kiddie...
Post by: DOS4GW on September 03, 2004, 09:59:00 PM
| QUOTE (gcskate27 @ Sep 4 2004, 05:53 AM) |
| you really are a dumbshit... well have fun script kiddie... |
I am the dumbshit? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please show me what you have accived in life! Please.
Post by: gcskate27 on September 03, 2004, 10:05:00 PM
go ahead and think you are above everyone, even though you know nothing of what they know, and touting your 'merits' and calling others n00bs: im sure thatll finally get the popular girl to notice you...
*and yes this post was full of assumptions on my part, but given your attitude, its pretty fucking likely...
**will seem confusing as youve editted your post...
Post by: DOS4GW on September 03, 2004, 10:13:00 PM
2. Check your nfo's.
3. Calling Outlaws and Nwc n00bs.... Dude....
Post by: gcskate27 on September 03, 2004, 10:18:00 PM
Post by: DOS4GW on September 03, 2004, 10:43:00 PM
Post by: DOS4GW on September 03, 2004, 11:20:00 PM
Post by: joseph_hac on September 05, 2004, 11:03:00 PM
| QUOTE (DOS4GW @ Sep 4 2004, 01:23 AM) |
| When people hack their ini files it shows how awesome people are. |
So you finally admit that he was hacking??
Post by: DOS4GW on September 06, 2004, 12:53:00 AM
| QUOTE (joseph_hac @ Sep 6 2004, 07:06 AM) |
| So you finally admit that he was hacking?? |
Ever heard about irony? So much for the "genius" status....
Post by: gcskate27 on September 06, 2004, 04:17:00 AM
Post by: DOS4GW on September 06, 2004, 05:28:00 AM
Post by: Penfoldian on September 06, 2004, 06:47:00 AM
| QUOTE (DOS4GW @ Sep 6 2004, 01:31 PM) |
| Heh, irony is a from of sarcasm... My usage was completely correct. |
DOS4GW , I dont understand why this is still carrying on, if you was helpful in the first place this would have never happened.
Your need to correct everyone on what is what and so forth is making you look bad.
Just agree to disagree, and be kool.
Post by: joseph_hac on September 06, 2004, 07:06:00 AM
| QUOTE (Penfoldian @ Sep 6 2004, 08:50 AM) |
| DOS4GW , I dont understand why this is still carrying on, if you was helpful in the first place this would have never happened. Your need to correct everyone on what is what and so forth is making you look bad. Just agree to disagree, and be kool. |
He's just trying to make up for his dick size, and his strange obsession with Jim Henson puppets.
Post by: XXXXXX on September 06, 2004, 07:21:00 AM
Post by: Penfoldian on September 06, 2004, 11:15:00 AM
If he is any which way a real man he will apologise accept his mistake and tell us what we wanted to know orginally.
Fat chance of that happening!
Post by: ORGANIC_PEPSI on September 06, 2004, 11:45:00 AM
Post by: joseph_hac on September 06, 2004, 01:42:00 PM
| QUOTE (Penfoldian @ Sep 6 2004, 01:18 PM) |
| LOL!!! If he wants to be "WRONG AND STRONG" about it let him he is only fooling himself, and showing everyone his real character. If he is any which way a real man he will apologise accept his mistake and tell us what we wanted to know orginally. Fat chance of that happening! |
If you want to know how Sniperkilla hacked modded cars into Live, why don't you just send him a PM and ask him?
Post by: Penfoldian on September 06, 2004, 02:46:00 PM
Post by: DOS4GW on September 06, 2004, 04:18:00 PM
| QUOTE (XXXXXX @ Sep 6 2004, 03:24 PM) |
| god damn ur a fuckwit DOS4GW, u know what hacking means, i know what hacking means, and we both know what Penfoldian meant when he said hack/hacking. so whats ur fuckin problem fool? Dont let my status here fool ya, I aint no noob. Have u noticed these dayz that the term hack/hacking gets used for anything these days. You know wat im gunna do DOS4GW? I'm gunna go open the fridge and get a can of coke, but in other words im gunna hack into the fridge and get a can of coke. or if i was in norway i would hack into ur house and take ur friggin head of ya fuckin fool. bottom line is we all knew what he meant so y be a bytch? |
Well, you sure type like one.
Post by: Penfoldian on September 08, 2004, 09:37:00 AM
| QUOTE (DOS4GW @ Sep 7 2004, 12:21 AM) |
| Well, you sure type like one. |
Thats real "CHEAP" DOS4GW you cant win an argument that way.
I'm beginning to realise that some of us here are adults and some are children, not pointed fingers but I'm sure some can see its apparent who is who right about now. Which is unfortunate because the people on here who I thought I had respect for are really just little kids having misfits tantrums and "i know it all" routines. DOS4GW, your making an arse of your self quit it, the more u nick pick the more ur becoming unpopular right now...God knows why i am trying to help you!
But thats just me...I'm not here to flame and put people down because of how they might interpret things I'm here to enjoy learn and most of all SHARE!
Post by: SniperKilla on September 08, 2004, 12:00:00 PM
| QUOTE (Penfoldian @ Sep 6 2004, 09:49 PM) |
| Doh you dont think I aint done all that! I even tired to speak to him on live but he wont accept friend requests. Never mind, its ok now I cant be bothered it was just a simple task i wanted to do but seems that the world too full of BAD MINDED people to share such information. My aim was to whoop stallion v1 arse but I can do that already without cheating so its ok now. |
i dont accecpt requests from random people i dont know.. because i have a full list.. so if i dont recognize your name i say no.. lemme know who you are and ill accecpt it
Post by: DOS4GW on September 08, 2004, 04:45:00 PM
| QUOTE (Penfoldian @ Sep 8 2004, 05:40 PM) |
| Thats real "CHEAP" DOS4GW you cant win an argument that way. I'm beginning to realise that some of us here are adults and some are children, not pointed fingers but I'm sure some can see its apparent who is who right about now. Which is unfortunate because the people on here who I thought I had respect for are really just little kids having misfits tantrums and "i know it all" routines. DOS4GW, your making an arse of your self quit it, the more u nick pick the more ur becoming unpopular right now...God knows why i am trying to help you! But thats just me...I'm not here to flame and put people down because of how they might interpret things I'm here to enjoy learn and most of all SHARE! |
I do not feel like wasting time on people that hacks their refrigerator, and threaten to rip someones head of.
"God knows why i am trying to help you!" ? Wtf are you talking about? Do you think I need help, and if so, do you think I'd take help from someone that hacks their ini files? Do you think I mind beeing unpop here? I'm afraid I don't mind beeing unpop among n00bs hacking inifiles and refrigerators. Even lamos that threaten to kill.
As long as you hack your inis, and hack your xbox by changing some values you will not get any way.
You're the one that asked for help, not me. I know how this works, you don't. Based on that fact I can't even see how you can tell if there is hacking involved or not. Then again, you hack your inis, and your friend hacks his refrigerator...
Post by: Penfoldian on September 09, 2004, 01:35:00 AM
Post by: Penfoldian on September 09, 2004, 01:37:00 AM
| QUOTE (SniperKilla @ Sep 8 2004, 08:03 PM) |
| i dont accecpt requests from random people i dont know.. because i have a full list.. so if i dont recognize your name i say no.. lemme know who you are and ill accecpt it |
you know what that is true cause I do the same thing, my apologies.