Post by: elitewolverine on August 11, 2005, 08:21:00 PM
So here is my project, a mod with the xbox limits in mind, and xbox friendly. Xbox first pc later kinda of thought...(i did make a few mods for the pc a long time ago before xbox 1 version)
The idea for this mod is not to add a all end all shop or to make a entire new game world....the idea is to bring different ideas into one mod, and base it around liven up the towns to make it look richer...
but since the xbox has limits i have to add many ideas to many locations to get it to work problem free with the box, and in doing so will liven up the game world with more livelier towns....
Right now marketplaces is the main theme for my mod with a few buildings to come about as well....it will be for beginners and for people who already beat the first quest etc...
the towns to be modded are balmora, ebonheart, caldera, vivec, aldruhun(maybe), dagon fel, ghostgate
the possibility to do questions within these marketplaces can be put in as long as they dont interfear with the main quest or pickup bugs because of it...
each town will get a number of mods 3-10 each with about 6+ npc's per town...
If anyone has a small armor mod etc or building mod etc, and want it in this mod plz feel free to give me a heads up. Ideas are greatly welcome the more the merrier.
each thing will also have a small theme, for instance balmora will be for beginners looking for a edge up, or caldera for those players looking to get rid of that beginner bonemold....and ghostgate for those looking for items to get them through the ashers etc...maybe even a few vampire marketplaces to help with those index quests....
I want this mod to be a very good 20mb large, by spreading everyones good ideas around the world so we can have a nice large mod...
2-3weeks is what i hope for, for the first mod to be out. My wife will also be playing while i create to see what is missing or could be added in. I am fighters guild she is mages, so i need that other insight or it will be all weapons sold lol.
quests might be added as said earlier but probably after the first installment and maybe even a market guild island that is being overun by bandits and needs your help, or something, every idea will be taken into consideration,and if used even ever so slightly your name will be put in the readme file etc....maybe even npc ;)
this is also a balanced mod, so dont expect every market or building to have the best, itwill have armorand weapons but only one or two shops will carry the best and very select ones at that....this is to enhance the experience, not to 'cheat' or 'overpower' it.
and if people want races for those just starting out, name which ones you want and i will include them in the mod...
pictures will be released of progress in a week or sooner if i get one place done etc, so you can see the quality and give feedback on it...
This post has been edited by elitewolverine: Aug 12 2005, 03:26 AM
Post by: darth_turtur on August 12, 2005, 11:19:00 AM
Darth Turtur's response: "I'd rather reach for the stars than live a life of mediocrity...besides, I don't have to pay for my BMW if i'm up that high."
What the hell was my point again? Oh yeah, I remember.
You are embarking on one hell of a project there my friend. Let me know how the forum can help you out. I know you mentioned in the other thread that you have the pc copy and also have access to TESCS. This is a great way to get the users involved. I'll pin a topic on top of the forum with users's requests on what they would want to see. Let me know what else you need.
Post by: forprog on August 12, 2005, 11:29:00 AM
Post by: daedelus7183 on August 12, 2005, 04:01:00 PM
Post by: darth_turtur on August 12, 2005, 05:02:00 PM
QUOTE(daedelus7183 @ Aug 12 2005, 04:12 PM)
You should merge it with the Morrowind Cities Anti-Mod so the framerate stays good and reduce DDEs. Just my $0.02. :beer:
That's worth $0.08 but it doesn't make sense to say "Here's my eight cents"...just doesn't flow right, doesn't it?
I think the Morrowind Cities Anti-Mod was taken down because of some instability and how it affects certain game behaviors (damn GMST's!!!) same thing the FPS Optimizer. Unstable. Too bad some authors keep messing up with things that they don't have to. Some of these mods could've turned out extremely well.
Post by: elitewolverine on August 12, 2005, 08:45:00 PM
on mod merging, that will come about oh halfway into the mod...
right now one of the balmora markets is 60-80% finished, called the guild market...
in fact there is a new guild called markets guild, expansion on joining the guild is yet to be seen as that is part of mission building etc...but its there...
there is also a "guild" of guards for the markets, one or two each, each guard is level 60+ and has either ebony armor glass etc, depending on locations i guess....also each one has its own weapon that well is quite nice and i dont think will spoil the game at all just give that nugde if you manage to take him on, killed my leven 17 character with full adamantium armor and adamtium shield (80pts worth of armor) in one hit (145pts of health taken away in one swing) so he has got some nice potential
, and yes attack the merchant and the guard will atackafter the guild market in balmora, there will be a peoples market and a house market, each one having its own buying theme...
a trend will follow threw the markets in design and also in what you can buy...
i hope to get the basic infastructure done in this coming week, each market place about 1-2days to complete, because once one is done i can do each place in a little under a hour, making it detailed but not overdone is what takes the longest...
ideas on where and what to include in the markets would be great, remember 3+markets per town, and at least 6 towns will be modded, so have your choices expanded and not in one clump...building could be added, houses probably not, for there are lots of nice ones, one to be added with mine will be the knights house mod because it goes good with this my mod imo....
once we or i etc, have the idea of markets and placement, so it doesnt interfer with other 'popular' mods will be nice as taking time to find the mods see what they add etc takes time....
main towns to be modded no matter what are Balmora, Ebonheart, Caldera(so small with so much potential), GhostGate(the high end market called 'Hells Door'), Dragon Fel, maybe a vivec one to accompany the arrowseller mod....to be considered sadrith mora and others if time permits etc...
scripting is at basic level with visual basic background for me personally so learning that wont be to hard, missions? have to deffinately look at that...
if i dont reply alot dont kill me im spending time modding
, but i will try to reply once a day or when relevant info needs to be said...thanx again for your guys time and interest in making a decent vvanderfell mod
or at least one that wont kill the game and gives a little life to the placeas for a name for this community mod, have no idea you can also sprout ideas out for that as well...a picture of this market i have done will be released in a day
remember nothing fancy, needs to look like a mod that should have came packed with the original disc and developers so nothing overdone
Post by: daedelus7183 on August 12, 2005, 09:11:00 PM
Post by: elitewolverine on August 12, 2005, 09:19:00 PM
QUOTE(daedelus7183 @ Aug 12 2005, 10:15 PM)
If you need any testers, let us know.
actually that wouldnt be too bad, when i am 'done' with the markets in balmora, i will give a beta tester esp file out there, just to try it out and make CC as always...probably give a tester after each town so that i can make sure there is no bugs etc in the town before i go onto the next one kinda of thing...
maybe i might make a generic mission for a test mission, something like take a pot to another market in town, or even a kill npc mission like a bandit etc...who know just a thought to throw around :), even though missions is not this mods focus one or two might not be bad....right now studying the topics and mission tuts...
see now this is what im talking about people helping in a mod, just not downloading one, and one made for pc in mind...
also all my testing is done on the xbox....even though im building off the pc, once i 'save' the mod it gets immediately transfered to xbox to make sure little details dont crash the box and so far it runs smooth even the fps are smooth while staring at the flame in the markets furnice :) or at least no big hit imo
Post by: daedelus7183 on August 12, 2005, 09:39:00 PM
Post by: elitewolverine on August 12, 2005, 11:13:00 PM
also think im happy with the first of the balmora markets, just added the second trader to it (a alchemy type person) and it looks quite nice not large or overdone...
oh yea on top of this, im running about 15+mods with my xbox, the one that is testing my mod, so 'compatibility' wont be to much of a issue...etc...
now just two more markets in balmora and off to ebonheart i think, or caldera which ever one sparks yours or my interests next...
but for those that want the esp file (no other file is needed for mod to work :) ) i will be happy for them to give it a test run, i havnt tried to nail any bugs if any in the market, so for now its bug free from what i can tell....
anyone got good links for dialog and mission tuts?
Post by: elitewolverine on August 13, 2005, 02:40:00 AM
moving on to the other markets in town but C&C are greatly welcome
and if you want some more shots ask and ill see what i can do...
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just fill in the spaces
Post by: metalmulisha247 on August 14, 2005, 12:59:00 PM
and if anybodycan help me with my FTP prob go FTPing Is A bitch 2 me
Post by: daedelus7183 on August 14, 2005, 05:03:00 PM
Post by: elitewolverine on August 14, 2005, 07:03:00 PM
QUOTE(metalmulisha247 @ Aug 14 2005, 02:10 PM)
can u make weapons and armor????
and if anybodycan help me with my FTP prob go FTPing Is A bitch 2 me
and if anybodycan help me with my FTP prob go FTPing Is A bitch 2 me
:) depends kinda, right now my 3dmodeling program blender3d, doesnt export to the format .NIF, if anybody knows where i can get a free one, then yes i can, or at least try....With Blender3d i have modeled a 320,000 polygon model of a mechwarrior or battletech for the techheads...
as for the other guy beta? well when im done with balmora ill release a balmora beta...right now there is a script im trying to get to work :), what that script does? well for all those bug testers and curious folk, who touch everything in a new mod to find flaws etc...youll find it :), just a little something, nothing to special but something to make it fun imo...
almost done with the second balmora market on the east side, ill release a picture when its done, then one more and ill release a beta...
sucks that balmora is taking abit longer than thought, but thats mainly because my wife is on to going into labor real soon, so i can only spend 2-3hrs a night, including bug testing and cleaning, i run a bug test every 20mins or so just to make sure of things...so far so good.
i have decided next to mod Ebonheart, once balmora is done...
also for the beta, the shops arent fully loaded, so plz add comment on what to put into the traders to sell...nothing huge for balmora, because you got 4 towns to spread out the armor requests, but i will add just enough kinda of thing...right now i really like some of the mods in the knights of tamirel mods, and will be asking to use their armor in my mods...anyone want a peek at them can go here
http://www.geocities.com/jw_mcguinn/armory.html
see which ones you like, if you like them all, ill try to request them to be put in there...most of their mods also have quests, if not all, and if you want those to that is fine...although major bug testing for the mods for xbox will be needed i know the armor for kynareth freezes the box in one of the rooms during the quest, i modded it to work with the box by deleting the room or just by pasing it, so feel free to ask :)
Post by: daedelus7183 on August 14, 2005, 07:19:00 PM
Sniper Crossbow: Powerful (60 damage) but balanced with a slooooow reload time (0.5 would work I think), and a 25,000 gold pricetag. Also, should enchant with a bonus to marksman to simulate a medival scope or something. I'd do it myself, but I suck at that.
Yeah, that's about as creative as I'm gonna get right now.
Post by: metalmulisha247 on August 15, 2005, 07:08:00 AM
Post by: darth_turtur on August 15, 2005, 11:00:00 AM
My suggestion is before you load all the bsa or bmp files into the esp, try to convert them into a lower resolution image file. This is the only way to avoid the constatnt DDE's that i'm sure we're all gonna experience.
Post by: elitewolverine on August 15, 2005, 11:20:00 AM
QUOTE(daedelus7183 @ Aug 14 2005, 08:23 PM)
Here's a couple of ideas for you:
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Title: A New Mod To Start With Xbox In Mind
Post by: elitewolverine on August 15, 2005, 12:20:00 PM
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Post by: elitewolverine on August 15, 2005, 12:20:00 PM
QUOTE(darth_turtur @ Aug 15 2005, 12:11 PM)
Most if not all these armors are contained within the Morrowind Knight Shop, a mod that places a merchant inside Moonmoth Legion Fort. Because of the use of extensively hi-res textures, the xbox is not able to run it because of the, well, you all know...STUPID RAM LIMITATION
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Title: A New Mod To Start With Xbox In Mind
Post by: metalmulisha247 on August 15, 2005, 01:00:00 PM
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how will u be getting them to work cuz I tried to add a set and I got happy faces aka error
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Title: A New Mod To Start With Xbox In Mind
Post by: elitewolverine on August 15, 2005, 11:22:00 PM
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and now on to my third market in balmora the house market
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Title: A New Mod To Start With Xbox In Mind
Post by: darth_turtur on August 16, 2005, 10:38:00 AM
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url link isn't working brother...could you post another one?
Thanks and keep up the great work.
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Title: A New Mod To Start With Xbox In Mind
Post by: elitewolverine on August 16, 2005, 01:46:00 PM
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Post by: metalmulisha247 on August 15, 2005, 01:00:00 PM
Post by: elitewolverine on August 15, 2005, 11:22:00 PM
and now on to my third market in balmora
the house market
Post by: darth_turtur on August 16, 2005, 10:38:00 AM
Thanks and keep up the great work.
Post by: elitewolverine on August 16, 2005, 01:46:00 PM
QUOTE(darth_turtur @ Aug 16 2005, 11:49 AM)
url link isn't working brother...could you post another one?
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Title: A New Mod To Start With Xbox In Mind
Post by: darth_turtur on August 16, 2005, 02:06:00 PM
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Post by: darth_turtur on August 16, 2005, 02:06:00 PM
QUOTE(elitewolverine @ Aug 16 2005, 01:57 PM)
there is two blanks in the link one at the h and another in the word image...
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Title: A New Mod To Start With Xbox In Mind
Post by: elitewolverine on August 16, 2005, 02:18:00 PM
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ht tp://img37.image shack.us/img37/6517/balmoraeast9lr.jpg
lets try that one...
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Title: A New Mod To Start With Xbox In Mind
Post by: elitewolverine on August 16, 2005, 10:06:00 PM
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, this way if you dont want a town you can pick and choose
anyways, the release will be on johnny-evils website and will be for testing and input on what to add in terms of characters selling items etc...
also anything else players want etc from the town mod, basically its for as much feedback as possible to what you as the players want from or taken away from the mod... you guys have major power here to get inputs into this mod. The guards are placers for now, and are very powerfull but their armor in the end could change etc, but the power they have is more or so what the final guard will be like...
my input is building and basic infustructure kinda of thing, but other than that its you guys who determine what you would like out of these alpha releases to turn them into finished beta releases
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Title: A New Mod To Start With Xbox In Mind
Post by: daedelus7183 on August 16, 2005, 10:45:00 PM
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Can't wait to try it. Looks SWEEEET!
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Title: A New Mod To Start With Xbox In Mind
Post by: elitewolverine on August 17, 2005, 01:44:00 AM
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Title: A New Mod To Start With Xbox In Mind
Post by: elitewolverine on August 17, 2005, 09:19:00 AM
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well there is it boys and girls a alpha release of my balmora markets...
currently working on a kick butt script that i think everybody would love and another one does have a bug in this release, although it will not affect you or the npcs, just a container, nothing in there anyways but oh well still trying to get that to work...
any requests on which town to do next? right now im leaning towards cladera or ebonheart...
available here on johnny's website...since its alpha its not in the download section but in a subdomain...reach it here
www.johnny-evil.com/elitewolverine
Post by: elitewolverine on August 16, 2005, 02:18:00 PM
lets try that one...
Post by: elitewolverine on August 16, 2005, 10:06:00 PM
, this way if you dont want a town you can pick and choose anyways, the release will be on johnny-evils website and will be for testing and input on what to add in terms of characters selling items etc...
also anything else players want etc from the town mod, basically its for as much feedback as possible to what you as the players want from or taken away from the mod...
you guys have major power here to get inputs into this mod. The guards are placers for now, and are very powerfull but their armor in the end could change etc, but the power they have is more or so what the final guard will be like...my input is building and basic infustructure kinda of thing, but other than that its you guys who determine what you would like out of these alpha releases to turn them into finished beta releases
Post by: daedelus7183 on August 16, 2005, 10:45:00 PM
Post by: elitewolverine on August 17, 2005, 01:44:00 AM
Post by: elitewolverine on August 17, 2005, 09:19:00 AM
currently working on a kick butt script that i think everybody would love and another one does have a bug in this release, although it will not affect you or the npcs, just a container, nothing in there anyways but oh well still trying to get that to work...
any requests on which town to do next? right now im leaning towards cladera or ebonheart...
available here on johnny's website...since its alpha its not in the download section but in a subdomain...reach it here
www.johnny-evil.com/elitewolverine