Post by: Xbox-Scene on December 15, 2011, 05:55:00 PM
News on Lite-On DG-16D5S 1175 Drive *Updated* Posted by XanTium | December 15 19:55 EST | News Category: Xbox360 |
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Post by: Blargharg on December 15, 2011, 07:36:00 PM
Post by: XBOX360NYMODING on December 15, 2011, 08:42:00 PM
Post by: D2C MASTER on December 15, 2011, 09:13:00 PM
Post by: Dark Mod on December 15, 2011, 09:25:00 PM
QUOTE(Blargharg @ Dec 15 2011, 10:36 PM) 
Damn, I got my hopes up when I saw the title, just to have them crushed again after reading the article... Well, I'm sure c4e and the scene will be able to crack this one as well, but atm I'm more interested in RGH on Corona...
you not the only one...drive mods getting pretty out of hand imho
Post by: scorpionrecords on December 15, 2011, 09:31:00 PM
This post has been edited by scorpionrecords: Dec 16 2011, 05:31 AM
Post by: rwcottrell on December 15, 2011, 10:10:00 PM
Post by: comhen on December 15, 2011, 10:17:00 PM
QUOTE(rwcottrell @ Dec 16 2011, 03:10 PM)
if they can get the key they should at least say how because all u need is the key to use an odde
Article clearly states new firmware has encryption which is different from older drives. So key a d the board won't do the job.
Post by: scorpionrecords on December 15, 2011, 11:42:00 PM
Post by: michalss on December 16, 2011, 12:08:00 AM
Post by: SNAAAKE on December 16, 2011, 04:07:00 AM
Post by: crisdo98 on December 16, 2011, 04:41:00 AM
QUOTE(SNAAAKE @ Dec 16 2011, 12:07 PM)
how can I tell if I have this drive? is there a way to do it by manufacturer date of the xbox 360 or... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) ?
In my experience (in the UK at least) Lot No. 1131X and under are not 1175, 1132X seems to be a mixure of Corona/1175, Corona/1071 and Trinity/1071. In other words 1131X appears to support drive flashing and RGH whereas 1132X is a bit of a lucky dip.
Again, this is just my experience.. best to check the maunfacturing date agaist the database www.360drives.com
Post by: danthaman673 on December 16, 2011, 10:10:00 AM
I wonder what this drive has in-store (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pop.gif)
Post by: blastagator on December 16, 2011, 11:01:00 AM
(Not sure if this drive is only in Corona boxes or if it came out before Corona. I think the drive came first but not sure.)
This post has been edited by blastagator: Dec 16 2011, 07:01 PM
Post by: pperez664 on December 16, 2011, 12:55:00 PM
Post by: HotKnife420 on December 16, 2011, 12:58:00 PM
QUOTE(scorpionrecords @ Dec 16 2011, 07:42 AM)
I guess is not the same method being used for old drives like drilling or capacitor?
Reading/writing the firmware isn't the issue here - decrypting it is.
Post by: D2C MASTER on December 16, 2011, 04:19:00 PM
QUOTE(pperez664 @ Dec 16 2011, 08:55 PM)
How much you guys want to bet that team xecutor and the rest of the boys will came up with a new "spear" and some other crap they want to sell us only to become obsolete within a few weeks/months. Even if there was a software o kamikaze type of mod they wont let anyone know....why you ask??.... becuase then they come up with something new to sell us. Sometimes hardware is needed like for the RGH, other times hardware is not needed like the " LT Switch". They pushed the LT Switch down peoples throats when they knew of other ways to retrieve the dvd key. And the list goes on ladies and gentlemen. Monopolization at its finest.
Well said. I feel that's the reason they are not tellings anything. But it's ok. At the end of day we are just going to buy it anyway.
Post by: Redline99 on December 16, 2011, 05:01:00 PM
QUOTE(pperez664 @ Dec 16 2011, 11:55 AM)
They pushed the LT Switch down peoples throats when they knew of other ways to retrieve the dvd key. And the list goes on ladies and gentlemen. Monopolization at its finest.
I don't normally comment on this type of crap, but really? Xecuter pushed it down people's throat? Are you retarded or something where you can't do something on your own? Maybe you are in another reality than I am in, but I do not remember being forced to use or buy anything. I have done a lot of things the "hard way" and I really appreciate any and all of the tools, products and software made by various people and groups. Team Xecuter, podger, geremia, maximus, xkey, wasabi, freeboot, schtrom, tiros, c0z, tmbinc, xorloser, etc, etc... The list goes on and on, who cares stop crying about this product or that product or they did this or they did that and grow up. Everyone builds upon others and in the end you do have choice to be thankful for.
Post by: Ranger72 on December 16, 2011, 05:38:00 PM
QUOTE(Redline99 @ Dec 16 2011, 07:01 PM)
I don't normally comment on this type of crap, but really? Xecuter pushed it down people's throat? Are you retarded or something where you can't do something on your own? Maybe you are in another reality than I am in, but I do not remember being forced to use or buy anything. I have done a lot of things the "hard way" and I really appreciate any and all of the tools, products and software made by various people and groups. Team Xecuter, podger, geremia, maximus, xkey, wasabi, freeboot, schtrom, tiros, c0z, tmbinc, xorloser, etc, etc... The list goes on and on, who cares stop crying about this product or that product or they did this or they did that and grow up. Everyone builds upon others and in the end you do have choice to be thankful for.
Normally I would just remove posts that could lead to flame war but this is spot on saying it as it is.
Nobody forced anybody to buy anything they dont want to.
Now back on topic.
Post by: hitcat on December 16, 2011, 05:55:00 PM
QUOTE(Ranger72 @ Dec 16 2011, 06:38 PM)
Normally I would just remove posts that could lead to flame war but this is spot on saying it as it is.
Nobody forced anybody to buy anything they dont want to.
Now back on topic.
Agreed and glad you did not remove it.
On Topic, yeah I have one of these drives and the new MOBO to go with it in a slim bought over a month ago.
K-Mart actually paid my guy a Penny (yeah Im not gonna go into detail as to how he does it but its 100% LEGAL (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) just so i could have a box with all the newest shizzz to mess around with when the time came.You guys have a way to dump it I'd be happy to attempt to with your technique and provide the dump to you to help with decoding.
Post by: ruciz on December 16, 2011, 09:08:00 PM
Its the next batch of drives that come in the corona model boards with no glitch ability.
as for the flames on TX and the other groups - they are out to make the cash not single-handedly hold the scene up.. Of course there are more exploits. RGH was sat on for a year before it was disclosed to ANYONE.... They sell whats 'public' easy, or marketable to capitalize on, while the private methods stay just that way - so your 'public' method thats commercialized can continue... as each one gets closed (spear dead due to new MS action) they have another method to reveal.
From the sounds of it MS didn't do any further advanced hardware protection (than a locked SPi) but they did add an encryption like the original hitachi drives had.. For sure there will be a spear or unlock board to get past SPi lock (maybe wrong) - but if you have the right component (cap or resistor or diode bridge or whatever) you can make your own for pennies... Maybe a corona hack will come out and you will have to use an elf file to dump/flash your drive right in the xbox to force the sales of NAND-X and CoolRunners V2 combination they are set to release? who knows.
It can be a very safe bet that the D4S drives are very close to the D5S. its not like this drive came out of nowhere....
Has no one on here took an economics class? basic business. Why sell the ferrari at $10,000 when people will buy kias for that price?
This post has been edited by ruciz: Dec 17 2011, 05:23 AM
Post by: courier on December 17, 2011, 03:06:00 AM
QUOTE(Redline99 @ Dec 17 2011, 01:01 AM)
I don't normally comment on this type of crap, but really? Xecuter pushed it down people's throat? Are you retarded or something where you can't do something on your own? Maybe you are in another reality than I am in, but I do not remember being forced to use or buy anything. I have done a lot of things the "hard way" and I really appreciate any and all of the tools, products and software made by various people and groups. Team Xecuter, podger, geremia, maximus, xkey, wasabi, freeboot, schtrom, tiros, c0z, tmbinc, xorloser, etc, etc... The list goes on and on, who cares stop crying about this product or that product or they did this or they did that and grow up. Everyone builds upon others and in the end you do have choice to be thankful for.
True !!!! like more your post Red +10 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: hitcat on December 17, 2011, 01:05:00 PM
QUOTE(ruciz @ Dec 16 2011, 10:08 PM)
Its the next batch of drives that come in the corona model boards with no glitch ability.
I have one in a non-glitchable board sitting here.
Post by: danthaman673 on December 17, 2011, 01:40:00 PM
If anyone decrypting the new FW needs someone to contribute a reasonable chunk of CPU WU's then I might be able to help. I'm guessing the kernel guys will make short work of it thru something similar to RGH but using SMC instead of Hana ;-) Maybe they can just figure it out somehow by looking at the update and how it decrypts it... I look forward to seeing what our cluey(er) scene member's come-up with on that one.
My guess is that it wont need anything much more than existing unlocking, but we will need perhaps some extended way of decrypting and then re-encrypting etc.. they prolly went with extending their hashing system somehow to make it more unique (like silent DAE.bin upd) and more painful to put back looking legit (I could speculate more here but for obvious reasons I wont)
(sorry fer straying off topic here...)
Monopoly implies there is only one alternative, not so .. It's just the ethics of one affect the many... just because you can doesn't mean you should doesn't seem to bear consideration to some, whom by their actions bite the very hands feeding them, if you are one of the many who are bitten, before you get angry remember THEY ARE NOT A MONOPOLY
(sorry couldn't help myself ;-)
Brgds
This post has been edited by danthaman673: Dec 17 2011, 09:45 PM
Post by: scorpionrecords on December 18, 2011, 10:14:00 AM
QUOTE(scorpionrecords @ Dec 15 2011, 10:31 PM)
Are Lite-on 1175 drives everywhere now or will it be while for 0401 drives to disappear at the store? M$ is not giving up that means c4eva did a good job.
Anything after August 17, 2011 is likely to be a Corona/1175, which, at present, cant be modded
Post by: Exobex on December 18, 2011, 10:26:00 AM
Post by: filletofish on December 18, 2011, 01:28:00 PM
QUOTE(Exobex @ Dec 18 2011, 07:26 PM)
Is there anything WE can do? Plenty of spare CPU cycles around here if someone set up a Project-X-type brute-force attack on the OFW, if such an attack is feasible?
Just because you want to save the world doesn't mean you can.
Post by: iAmMasterF on December 19, 2011, 12:36:00 AM
Post by: njmbb8 on December 19, 2011, 02:48:00 PM
Post by: macforever2012 on December 19, 2011, 05:05:00 PM
The last thing you want to do is reveal to MS the procedures used to decrypt their newest firmware
You NEVER release your source code or decryption procedures publically. Because if its made public the Provider can see how its been specifically compromised and patch the backdoor holes being exploited and port the techique over to newer drive firmware to ensure they can't be simmilarly compromised.
Give C4eva and Team Executer a little credit. The reason that great relationship hast lasted all these years is because they keep their mouth shut and keep the lid shut on all source code and procedures for disassembly.
Come on guys think first before posting.
Releasing your source code and private decryption procedures is something only an uniformed NOOB would ask. A skilled hacker knows such things must always be kept very private!
EXAMPLE:
How you think we so sucessfully NOZKT'd or hacked the old DirecTV receivers for nearly 8 years right under Dave's watchful eyes?
Because, we never released the procedure or source code for decrypting or dissasembling their reciever's firmware and thus for 8 years every new DirecTV receiver/model was compromosed the same exact way; Thus forcing them to finally replace all satellite cards and all STB receivers in 2004, since our NOZKT hack was 100% unstoppable. If it had been released them Dave could have easily patch all firmware updates to keep us out or at best keep us cronically repatching firmware to spoof around it and keep it working.
This is why you NEVER release source code or decryption procedures.
This post has been edited by macforever2012: Dec 20 2011, 01:19 AM
Post by: Fantasy Star on December 19, 2011, 06:28:00 PM
This post has been edited by Fantasy Star: Dec 20 2011, 02:32 AM
Post by: Snowy87 on December 19, 2011, 10:44:00 PM
L T 3.0 was completed for BENQ eight days ago.
An others got tested during last week.
So why no update on a release time frame?
I bet he's waiting for x-mas.
Post by: D2C MASTER on December 19, 2011, 10:55:00 PM
Post by: filletofish on December 20, 2011, 01:54:00 AM
QUOTE(D2C MASTER @ Dec 20 2011, 07:55 AM)
Back to topic. I wonder how they dump the drive.. We tried some stuff but No luck on getting a good dump.
I'm scratching my head here...
Why would you be able to get a good dump? It's a new drive!
Post by: D2C MASTER on December 20, 2011, 01:06:00 PM
QUOTE(filletofish @ Dec 20 2011, 09:54 AM)
I'm scratching my head here...
Why would you be able to get a good dump? It's a new drive!
What's so hard to understand? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
Post by: burzum1 on December 20, 2011, 05:22:00 PM
QUOTE(filletofish @ Dec 20 2011, 10:54 AM)
I'm scratching my head here...
Why would you be able to get a good dump? It's a new drive!
Now i need to take a dumb
Post by: filletofish on December 21, 2011, 12:01:00 AM
QUOTE(D2C MASTER @ Dec 20 2011, 10:06 PM)
I mean if it's a new drive, it's likely to need new method to dunmp firmware. So naturally it's not unexpected that you couldn't dump it.
Post by: danthaman673 on December 21, 2011, 12:22:00 AM
QUOTE(Snowy87 @ Dec 20 2011, 03:14 PM)
Who cares?
L T 3.0 was completed for BENQ eight days ago.
An others got tested during last week.
So why no update on a release time frame?
I bet he's waiting for x-mas.
Xmas eve US time (Is what we're hearing)
Would be a great Xmas present
Post by: Blade360 on December 21, 2011, 07:31:00 AM
QUOTE(danthaman673 @ Dec 21 2011, 05:22 PM)
Xmas eve US time (Is what we're hearing)
Would be a great Xmas present
He's from Australia if not mistaken so I wonder if he meant the 24th in AU or US?
I guess it's possible to have it made available in both...
Post by: Dark Mod on December 21, 2011, 08:52:00 AM
Post by: OggyUK on December 22, 2011, 04:22:00 PM
Post by: rjohnson79 on December 24, 2011, 04:56:00 PM
Post by: hardie on December 24, 2011, 05:23:00 PM
QUOTE(rjohnson79 @ Dec 25 2011, 09:26 AM)
So I am new to the Xbox360......Have it all torn apart and an optical drive model DG-16d5s fw 1175. So does this mean that currently their is no softmod options for this drive? Thank you for any feedback.
No
Post by: gosssamer on January 02, 2012, 07:27:00 PM
QUOTE(hardie @ Dec 24 2011, 07:23 PM)
No
I also have this drive.
Is the solution to replace it with a hacked drive? Can you recommend a model number that I should purchase to do this?
Thanks,
Dave
Post by: filletofish on January 03, 2012, 02:51:00 AM
QUOTE(gosssamer @ Jan 3 2012, 04:27 AM)
I also have this drive.
Is the solution to replace it with a hacked drive? Can you recommend a model number that I should purchase to do this?
Thanks,
Dave
Solution hasn't been made public yet, assuming a solution has been found.
Post by: rjohnson79 on January 09, 2012, 10:23:00 PM
QUOTE(hardie @ Dec 24 2011, 04:23 PM)
No
looks like its finally on eh!!!! I can't wait to find out how much harder this is then the wii and ruin a perfectly good system!!!!
quote on c4evaspeaks.com
Lite-On 1175 DG-16D5S LT+ v3.0 IN PROGRESS
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This version adds support for topology data in place of AP2.5 replay data for all XGD3 and AP2.5-active XGD2 backups. *NOTE: For drives that support AP2.5, all backups containing AP2.5 replay data will need to be patched or re-dumped and re-burned for compatibility with v3.0.
iXtreme LT+ v3.0 for Lite-On Slim retains support for the use of truncated backups, although it it strongly recommended to use full XGD3 burns made with a compatible Lite-On iHAS drive flashed with the iXtreme Burner MAX fw.
In LT+ v3.0, backups remain the same layout, but require new "AP2.5 topology data" in place of the older "AP2.5 replay sector" that was used in LT+ v2.x and older. Burned backups made for v2.x will not work on v3.0, and vice-versa. In the case of v3.0, the firmware would be looking for nonexistent topology data on a backup burned for v2.x. For v2.x, the firmware would be looking for nonexistent AP25 replay data on a backup burned for v3.0. Either way will not work, and will flag your 360 by failing AP2.5 challenges outright.
Post by: fitsman on January 23, 2012, 08:03:00 AM
Correct?
Post by: mouseym on January 23, 2012, 08:15:00 AM
QUOTE(fitsman @ Jan 23 2012, 03:03 PM)
So until now there isn't any way to can dump not flash the 1175 original firmware.
Correct?
people have tried and have had no luck dumping the key or the firmware
Post by: pharaoah on February 22, 2012, 04:19:00 AM
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Post by: filletofish on February 23, 2012, 03:27:00 AM
QUOTE(pharaoah @ Feb 22 2012, 01:19 PM)
That sux. What might be the problem? Is the Hitachi really build with higher security?
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