Post by: filletofish on November 20, 2011, 03:26:00 PM
QUOTE(Hurleyman217 @ Nov 20 2011, 07:10 PM) 
Hey Scene,
I was just wanting some clarification on the new silent update/ Live safe discussion. I am still on Dash 13604, did not partake in the rollout. I'm running LT 2.0 and using Burner Max to make my backups.
Is it safe to play these backups offline? The headline that broke the dae.bin news said no online, no xdg3s but I have read posts about people still playing offline as they wait for LT 3.0. Thanks for clearing this up for me Scene!
Sean
As long as your Xbox 360 was not silently updated, meaning you have not connected to Live in the past 4-5 days and you do not connect to Live until a solution is made available, then the assumption is you are safe to play any backup made properly offline.
It would be a good idea to remove your ethernet cable, or block the Xbox 360 on your router from connecting just in case you accidentally do connect one day until the solution is made available.
Post by: Hurleyman217 on November 20, 2011, 05:20:00 PM
I have been online in the last few days, but I have played only a stock disc of AC Brotherhood for the last week or two. Given my circumstance, do you think I am safe to play my backups offline?
Sean
Post by: funksoulbrother on November 20, 2011, 06:24:00 PM
I only ask because a guy posted in the first news thread about this to say that he'd attached his USB stick to a friend's modded console, then after that the console could no longer boot any AP2.5 protected games even though it had not been connected to Xbox Live in order to receive the updated dae.bin file. I haven't seen anyone else mention such a thing, but I swap a USB stick between consoles and I don't want to "infect" my offline box.
Post by: filletofish on November 20, 2011, 07:39:00 PM
QUOTE(Hurleyman217 @ Nov 21 2011, 02:20 AM)
Thanks for the response filletofish.
I have been online in the last few days, but I have played only a stock disc of AC Brotherhood for the last week or two. Given my circumstance, do you think I am safe to play my backups offline?
Sean
If you have been online in the past 2-3 days you will definately have the new dae.bin protection active on your Xbox 360. This means...
1. AP2.5 games will not boot.
2. Trying to play an AP2.5 game and it not booting will set a flag on your NAND which will then be uploaded when you next connect to Xbox Live.
3. This means you will then be flagged for a ban - IF - banning based on AP2.5 fails is enacted. (It hasn't so far as far as anyone knows, except I think at the beginning of august where quite a large number of people were banned only for the bans to be revoked as it was deemed that the bans were unsafe and that some people who didn't have modded consoles were banned).
However, this is a few months down the line and it is likely that the detection\banning will not have those mistakes in it now.
Basically...
Your console now will not boot AP2.5 games, as long as you do NOT attempt to play ANY AP2.5 backup until you flash the new LT3.0 when it comes out, you will be safe - even if connected to live etc.
If you do\have played one and got the message saying the game can't start etc. Then you it doesn't matter what you do, you are flagged.
You cannot play ANY AP2.5 games online OR offline now that you have the new dae.bin.
...I don't think Assasins Creed 1\2 has AP2.5 but brotherhood\revelations definately does....EDIT - just seen you said stock, as long as it's not a backup you can play ANY game. All this info only pertains to backups, real games will work as they should and are unaffected by any of this recent news.
Post by: Hurleyman217 on November 20, 2011, 10:03:00 PM
Thanks again.
Sean
Post by: filletofish on November 20, 2011, 10:54:00 PM
QUOTE(Hurleyman217 @ Nov 21 2011, 07:03 AM)
Thank you filletofish. Not the news I was hoping for obviously, but very well said. I will then only play stock discs until LT3.0 comes out.
Thanks again.
Sean
No probs, if you can make sure before you play that the backup isn't AP2.5 enabled, then they are fine. Basically avoid any game released in the last 2-3 months and also there's about 6-8 released before that with it (COD series, Assasins Creed, Halo Reach and a couple of others) If you check first, as there's a list somewhere (google) then you will be fine playing your old backups. Just not the new ones
