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Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: uberx on May 28, 2004, 05:47:00 AM
Does anyone know if the HCE v8 project is still in the works?  Its a program I knew I was looking forwards to alot! Thanks!
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: XBOX War3z on May 28, 2004, 06:39:00 AM
Hehe thanks wink.gif
We're betatesting v0.8 right now, we got a complete logging system, now we have an even better system to see why booting failed:
(idea from XBMC, thx guys biggrin.gif )
(EDIT: this feature even works when you only place the default.xbe in a folder, no extra files needed, so perfect solution)

user posted image

also added the 'real' buttons instead of text

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fixed sooo many bugs,
we got custom map support (for all the bsp edits can now show a custom title + even read a custom ini file)
working on a build-in hex editor

networking is almost working

improved some stuff to run of dvd (has anybody ever done this?)

gonna try a way to 'detect' the current region

lots of other stuff

ideas are still welcome wink.gif
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: $eEnN|i on May 28, 2004, 08:23:00 AM
finaly an update on this been waiting a long time for a new build. currently testin beta 1 and it works fine to me
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: mastertito4 on May 28, 2004, 01:10:00 PM
i think i need to adjust the colors on the hce title and region, also widen the top bar a bit, but other than that: what do u guys think of the skin?
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: unsc1 on May 28, 2004, 02:24:00 PM
that skin looks sweet
dang cant wait until this is released keep up the good work
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: $eEnN|i on May 28, 2004, 02:28:00 PM
button are a nice touch........skin is comining along nicely........can't wait till you get the netork runnign perfectly and game save signing.........whoa holy shit unsc1 thaz a bit picture the admins and moderators are going to be on ur ass soon about that lol nice though.

This post has been edited by $eEnN|i on May 28 2004, 09:30 PM
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: deleeuw on May 28, 2004, 02:55:00 PM
I have a problem with HCE .7. It never seems to find my Halo game. I choose NTSC and press the A button, then it goes to my Evox dash. I don't know why. The location in config.ini is exactly where Halo is located on my hard drive:

NTSC = E:/Games/halo/default.xbe

And Halo is at that location on my hard drive so  I don't know why it won't load Halo properly... any ideas?
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: jkjk on May 28, 2004, 04:24:00 PM
u can't run it from evox...use avalaunch
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: pmprints on May 28, 2004, 04:45:00 PM
You can run it from evox fine. I do.  I think you may need to rename the folder to halo ntsc.  Just look in the config file and you can see the file name path to which it loads. ; )  Right now tho it should work if you hit the load pal version instead.
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: XBOX War3z on May 29, 2004, 11:27:00 PM
try using real backslashes \\ smile.gif it looks for those

upcoming hex editor:

user posted image

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[EDIT]
worked some more on it, you can now directly open cache files in the editor
user posted image
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: Moleman on May 30, 2004, 11:58:00 AM
HOT DAMN!  *changes pants* I can't wait for this!
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: th3gh05t on May 30, 2004, 08:25:00 PM
Yes...

I can't wait for the official release...

This is the best Xbox App out there!!!  laugh.gif
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: Jagger on May 30, 2004, 11:15:00 PM
Heh, I assumed that this had died... Glad to see it hasn't.

I remember testing version 0.1 alpha.. It didn't work.  tongue.gif

Anyway, it's nice to see how far this has come.. keep up the good work, XBOX War3z.
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: omnidragonomega on May 31, 2004, 01:08:00 PM
acn any one tell me how i use this program to apply the PFF's as i can't find the dir to place them in
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: XBOX War3z on May 31, 2004, 12:22:00 PM
QUOTE (omnidragonomega @ May 31 2004, 10:05 PM)
acn any one tell me how i use this program to apply the PFF's as i can't find the dir to place them in

for hce v0.7
go to the folder of your region
ntsc for america
pal for europe
ger for german

there is a PPF folder (EDIT: if the folder isnt there just make one)
place the ppf files in it

open hce
press back
choose apply path

select the patch and press a
select the cache and press a to apply or x to undo

wait and press a to finish smile.gif
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: NiKeJuStDoItOk? on May 31, 2004, 01:00:00 PM
wink.gif .  Everyone interested in HCE might wanna go to the forum war3z set up on sourceforge at http://hce.sourceforge.net/forum/.  I thought this was kinda inseresting that me and war3z were talking and we figured out that HCE was first released on August 12 2003.  ohmy.gif Also, I first suggested that we should recode the program on October 30 of that same year.  Cache backup is going good and a little keyboard support will be in by version 8 (not virtual keyboard).  The error mode works pretty good and two of the fonts are loaded from the xbe so it can run even without the media folder biggrin.gif .  War3z is doing the hex editor and it is developing real quickly so that will definantly be in by 8.0.  The other other thing I can think of is a lot of bug fixes from version 7... And a logging system. tongue.gif

beerchug.gif
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: d3fault_dot_xbe on May 31, 2004, 04:40:00 PM
i know this is a stupid question... i haven't been around much... but what is the network thingy gonna do?? download ppfs?? auto-update? what what what?/??

p.s. i LOVE the hex editor idea.... that is awesome.... nice job war3z
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: XBOX War3z on May 31, 2004, 09:02:00 PM
QUOTE (d3fault_dot_xbe @ Jun 1 2004, 02:40 AM)
i know this is a stupid question... i haven't been around much... but what is the network thingy gonna do?? download ppfs?? auto-update? what what what?/??

p.s. i LOVE the hex editor idea.... that is awesome.... nice job war3z

we'll try all of those then
but also for this:
- you and your friends want a LAN party
- you connect all of them
- start hce
- one person sets everything, applies some patches and got like 3 mp levels ready to play
- he then sends out a 'message' to all the xboxes in the current network that he wants to 'share' the maps
- every xbox gets a popup message with the details like Name/Region and from which xbox
- you accept the transfer and the it starts copying the cache file to your xbox
- with the new backup thing we might even make a ppf of it, send that and then apply it biggrin.gif

or just send any file you want to other xboxes smile.gif

it'll be great tongue.gif
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: th3gh05t on June 01, 2004, 12:24:00 PM
QUOTE (XBOX War3z @ Jun 1 2004, 06:02 AM)
we'll try all of those then
but also for this:
- you and your friends want a LAN party
- you connect all of them
- start hce
- one person sets everything, applies some patches and got like 3 mp levels ready to play
- he then sends out a 'message' to all the xboxes in the current network that he wants to 'share' the maps
- every xbox gets a popup message with the details like Name/Region and from which xbox
- you accept the transfer and the it starts copying the cache file to your xbox
- with the new backup thing we might even make a ppf of it, send that and then apply it biggrin.gif

or just send any file you want to other xboxes smile.gif

it'll be great tongue.gif

Yea, that sounds freakin' sweet!
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: XBOX War3z on June 03, 2004, 01:00:00 AM
tongue.gif

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so i change my region, want to apply a patch and select my cache

user posted image

oh cool hce can undo patches dry.gif tongue.gif


more to come biggrin.gif
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: XBOX War3z on June 03, 2004, 08:47:00 AM
ok i need some help, if anybody wants,
check out any of your halo map files (cache, compressed, doesnt matter) at 0x40
this is the build date, could you list your builddate here with the region that your halo is

on another thing
the go to offset thing
i had this in mind:
user posted image
you move arround in the hex numbers,
(A) adds the hex number to the offset thing,
(X) deletes the last,
(B) cancels and (Y) takes you to that offset

any other suggestions for the hex editor?
like what could the find do, ...?
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: Lightning|Striker on June 03, 2004, 10:28:00 AM
Have it, say, search for Level names, descriptions, etc...

Oh! It would be awesome if there was a built in model injector, it's awesome to swap the models in SP, but there's only Cyborg in multi...
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: Moleman on June 03, 2004, 11:56:00 AM
This is what was at decimal offset 64 (0x40 in hex).

01.10.12.2276

NTSC Blood Gulch.

Not sure if it is what you want though.
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: Moleman on June 03, 2004, 11:56:00 AM
double post
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: XBOX War3z on June 03, 2004, 07:53:00 PM
smile.gif

about the searching, that would be searching for unicode text (the ones with the dots in them wink.gif )
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: th3gh05t on June 05, 2004, 10:18:00 AM
QUOTE (XBOX War3z @ Jun 4 2004, 04:53 AM)
cool i thought it would all have the same build, ok then i only need the build number of the german cache files smile.gif

about the searching, that would be searching for unicode text (the ones with the dots in them wink.gif )

Yea, my thought is that all the NTSC BG build versions will be the same and the PAL and German might change.

But who knows..
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: XBOX War3z on June 08, 2004, 03:27:00 AM
wink.gif

changed the background color for all menus
hexeditor has a working go to offset thing:

user posted image
you move with your dpad in the hex numbers and then use A to add a hex number, X to delete last and Y to go to the offset you 'typed'

cache backups working biggrin.gif

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the information shows if you have a cache or not (you will also get a * behind a cache file but i think im gonna change this so it shows changes)

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press black to start the backup thing

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after its done everything gets updated and you can continue to work



what's left to do:
- file browser for hex editor
- editing in hex editor (any ideas? tongue.gif )
- restore backups (something in the menu where you can select (restore/delete) all the backups)

todo: (not for hce08)
- gametype editing
- network
- make ppf by comparing backup to current map
- ...
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: Gab_dC on June 08, 2004, 04:04:00 AM
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Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: omnidragonomega on June 08, 2004, 04:50:00 AM
bu would it be possible to do that? caus if so there a suggestion for a later version
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: Lightning|Striker on June 08, 2004, 02:51:00 PM
Model injector!
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: XBOX War3z on June 08, 2004, 05:43:00 PM
wink.gif

Model Injector would be sweet like extracting from a sp cache file and insert in a mp cache file?

Next set of updates (Almost almost ready for betatest):

Browsing for Hex Editor:
user posted image

user posted image

the errors in the drives thing is because im running it with a debug bios
on a normal bios it only gave an error (Unrecognized Volume) for the G partition because I don't have it tongue.gif
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: xboxhackern00b on June 08, 2004, 08:06:00 PM
looks cool
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: -FourDoor- on June 11, 2004, 09:01:00 AM
beerchug.gif
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: mastertito4 on June 11, 2004, 09:34:00 AM
biggrin.gif   ..... right?...... guys?.....
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: $eEnN|i on June 11, 2004, 10:41:00 AM
quite
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: kaka123 on June 11, 2004, 03:09:00 PM
is this almost done??
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: XBOX War3z on June 11, 2004, 11:18:00 PM
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the first the we still have to add is the restore thing, its gonna work in most cases and otherwise it will ask you what cache to overwrite (this shouldnt take too long, most code is done already)

the other thing was to add some sort of virtual keyboard but this was too hard for now so it was a little bit annoying
but how else are you gonna use the hex editor

but yesterday i was talking with TJ and he gave me this supereasy idea for a keyboard
no fancy gui just a simple virtual keyboard so i'm gonna make it and then we should be all good for a release

we also got the suggestions from the xlink team to use real system link, this way you can use the network support from hce over the internet with kai  ohmy.gif

and it would make it easier for us too
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: Lightning|Striker on June 12, 2004, 04:42:00 PM
Nice...Can't wait!
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: XBOX War3z on June 13, 2004, 02:03:00 AM
tongue.gif
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: XBOX War3z on June 13, 2004, 10:06:00 AM
biggrin.gif w00t w00t
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: mastertito4 on June 13, 2004, 10:13:00 AM
tongue.gif :

CACHE:\cache002.map.... shouldnt it be like X:\...?

"Cancel" in the bottom right goes out of the box

otherwise freakin good work i cant believe how fast u dish out these new features
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: XBOX War3z on June 13, 2004, 10:43:00 AM
tongue.gif

about the thing:
it should only view the letter your on (d in this screen)
and gonna let it show the hex value

the top one is the original value
the one under it the one you can change

probably gonna use left/right trigger to change between editing hex or text
when you click Y to change it will use the one you last edited (hex/text) and put that in the file

its not that good yet, maybe later directly use the keyboard to type in on the screen or even better let you move arround while you are in 'edit mode'
so you can keep change until you press b to go back
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: Lightning|Striker on June 13, 2004, 03:58:00 PM
Well, it would be nice instead of hexing it, just have an option in the menu 'Change player names' and edit it from there, know what I'm saying?
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: mastertito4 on June 13, 2004, 04:44:00 PM
or weapon/vehicle names, and game msgs.... hmm....
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: XBOX War3z on June 13, 2004, 07:45:00 PM
smile.gif
should be fast anyway to type 1000 then to keep scrolling tongue.gif
but this stuff will be for 0.9, we'll work hard to bring keyboard more in
like editing xbox name, change name of gametype, give a name for the ppf description + filename you want to save ppf too
and some other stuff

Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: enuf on June 14, 2004, 10:06:00 PM
Wow this is really looking good.. You're truley moving fast.

As a non programer seeking to be a programmer... I also wonder how people code stuff.  What kinda of 'code' are you using?  Or do you wish not to talk about it?  I was just wondering because you work rather fast in it.  I mean you fixed those two problems and checked it and then posted back here in 30 minutes..  I mean they were simple yeah but that was wicked fast.
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: XBOX War3z on June 15, 2004, 01:05:00 AM
smile.gif
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: Lightning|Striker on June 22, 2004, 03:11:00 PM
Bump! Anything new?
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: Helios on June 23, 2004, 05:46:00 AM
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Keep up the awesome work XW you are my hero!  beerchug.gif
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: mastertito4 on June 23, 2004, 10:55:00 PM
*i hate when i speak for XW like im in charge, but...*

beta is out so provided there r no big bugs, final release will be soon
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: Helios on June 26, 2004, 09:37:00 PM
Any news on HCE??? I am waiting very anxiously!!!! I cant wait for it to be released!!! Is it almost completed???
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: Badger6 on June 27, 2004, 09:43:00 PM
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Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: XBOX War3z on June 28, 2004, 11:50:00 AM
QUOTE
ok first of all, hce is f*ckin awesome!!!


hehe thx

QUOTE

heres a few ideas i came up with:

when u press black button to go back to dash, what if you could have a menu of dashes to boot that you could set in a .ini file, sorta like when u press start and choose which halo to boot.

great idea, will be added

QUOTE

what if when you are editing meta values, such as the gravity multiplier for a vehicle, what if you could use a virtual keyboard with just numbers, - , and .  instead of only being able to increase or decrease values by a set increment.  for example, on hce 0.7 when you edit the gravity multiplier for hogs on bg, if you press right or left to increase or decrease it, it goes up or down by increments of .1, making it impossible to make it something like .15, because it would go from .1 straight to .2.

virtual keyboard will be used for all number editing, but not yet

QUOTE

what about being able to edit more things about weapons such as clip size, # of projectiles fired, rate of fire, or accuracy?

the is the reflexives thing that we are gonna add some time rolleyes.gif

QUOTE

how about having the option to make campain vehicles such as gun turrets or wraiths fly?  i believe that hce currently only supports hogs, ghosts, and scorpions flying.

should be doable, just some ini changes

QUOTE

model injection sounds cool, and if something like this were to happen, what if it were possible to open two maps at the same time and switch between them by pressing a button such as white.

Seems pretty hard for now, would mean alot of changes but cool biggrin.gif

QUOTE

when entering things with a virtual keyboard such as going to hex offsets, how about being able to move the cursor left and right with right and left triggers.  for example, if you were trying to type 12345, and you accidentally typed 1245 (forgot the 3), instead of having to delete the 4 and 5, what if you could just press left trigger twice and move a cursor between 2 and 4 so you could enter the 3.

hmmm maybe later but not now

QUOTE

im not sure how hard this would be, but that would be cool if hce could decompress mapfiles off of a disc or in a halo maps folder so you wouldnt have to boot the game and load the map like that.  if this were to happen it would also be cool if hce could compress cache files into maps and put them in a halo maps folder on the xbox hdd so the mods would be permanent.

NikeJustDoItOk is planning on adding this

QUOTE

creating backup maps and using them to make ppfs would be a great idea that would save the time of having to send the map to the pc, make the ppf, then send the ppf back to the xbox.

yup

QUOTE

what if hce could create an ftp server so you could connect to your xbox via comp without having to quit hce and go back to dash.

some other interesting idea once we have the network working, maybe we can just use the xbfilezilla thing

QUOTE

well these are all just ideas, and some of them would be a lot harder than others to include, i definately dont expect you to include all of them because if you did do all that you definately wouldnt be human wink.gif

we arent humans anyway tongue.gif
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: PhatheadWRX on July 01, 2004, 06:25:00 AM
<----- loves HCE.7 and is dying to see what .8 brings......
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: XBOX War3z on July 04, 2004, 01:17:00 PM
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Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: ml3000 on September 23, 2004, 09:30:00 PM
Yeah, when is it supposed to release
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: XboxDude87 on September 24, 2004, 01:11:00 PM
dude, its out. This is an old thread. Beta 3 W.I.P is the newest version.
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: MoshMan on September 24, 2004, 04:02:00 PM
my warthog doesnt fly, ias soon as u get in it, attempt to drive, it goes all unstable shaking then tips upsidedown and blasts u in the air lol
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: AE6689 on September 24, 2004, 10:29:00 PM
Just one more idea, I think it would be awesome if you guys could add support for NMP 2 and CXE.  Also I really hope this project continues into Halo 2 (assuming of course that it uses the same type of system which I think it should) I'm not a betatester but I've compiled some of the sources and it seems awesome!  Hope for official release soon.
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: MoshMan on September 25, 2004, 08:41:00 AM
its not out?
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: CamdogXIII on September 25, 2004, 03:08:00 PM
u can't post a link because its built with xdk. (and as we all know that's a big no no.)
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: Helios on September 27, 2004, 12:08:00 AM
Just go on XW's website www.xboxwarez.tk... I am pretty sure that you have to be a betatester though... I am not sure but its good
Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: locutus of worm on September 27, 2004, 11:04:00 AM
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Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: Helios on September 27, 2004, 10:50:00 PM
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Title: Whats Up With Hce V8?
Post by: element4536 on September 28, 2004, 05:06:00 AM
i pmed XW about bein a beta tester but no reply yet and put a post on the official website(no reply) but he said to another guy on the forums"you and all the others wanting to b beta testers are accepted"