Post by: Xaian on November 14, 2010, 12:53:00 AM
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[2010-11-13 03:33PM] <*****> is it possible to spoof our current drives to appear as samsung drives and bypass ap25
[2010-11-13 03:34PM] <c4eva> *****:osig is checked as part of ap25
[2010-11-13 03:34PM] <********> I spoofed 4 o 5 Slims to diferent drives, and only 2 times it don't works with Kinect (Play DVD) However, other slims read all (unless Fable 3 xD)
[2010-11-13 03:36PM] <c4eva> ********:new dash at some point checks slim drive fw, once it has spoof will cease to work
[2010-11-13 03:36PM] <*****> c4eva will LT+ firmware be available to hitachi v79 drives?
[2010-11-13 03:37PM] <c4eva> *****:maybe
[2010-11-13 03:38PM] <******> C4eva have u tested AC brotherhood?
[2010-11-13 03:39PM] <c4eva> yes, i have ac:b, all is good!
[2010-11-13 03:44PM] <c4eva> lt+ testing begins this weekend, not long now!
[2010-11-13 06:24PM] <******> unless u have a hitatchi drive or a sammy, but sammys seem to be hit and miss, works for some and not for others
[2010-11-13 06:25PM] <c4eva> ******:ap25 is checking osig
[2010-11-13 06:26PM] <******> +c4eva - what is osig?
[2010-11-13 06:27PM] <c4eva> original drive signature for motherboard
[2010-11-13 06:31PM] <c4eva> osig is interesting, they took out kernel check due to rrod repairs, now ap25 had to have it,otherwise everyone would be a sammy, now rrod repairs may not boot if osig wasnt updated!
[2010-11-13 06:35PM] <c4eva> its gone past just live, they want no backups booting period!
[2010-11-13 06:37PM] <*******> I read somewhere that this ap 2.5 can be different for each game ... so every new game might not work the same way as the previous one and may need a new fw update?
[2010-11-13 06:38PM] <c4eva> fw will be fine!
[2010-11-13 06:39PM] <******> it'll work for any AP2.5 challenge he said
[2010-11-13 08:11PM] <*****> c4eva fable3 and asasin have same ap25 checks ?
[2010-11-13 08:12PM] <c4eva> ap25 checks are game specific
[2010-11-13 08:12PM] <*********> c4eva do u know why samsung does not have ap2.5 >
[2010-11-13 08:12PM] <c4eva> because it doesnt have the code for it
[2010-11-13 08:13PM] <******> c4eva, AP2.5 - thats a name you came up with or does it show in the dash binary somehow ?
[2010-11-13 08:13PM] <******> that's what the specification is actually called, ******
[2010-11-13 08:13PM] <*********> c4eva, i suppose we will need new software/hardware aswell, to dump the new sectors and inject them in iso ?
[2010-11-13 08:14PM] <******> ******, specification that came from MS to game developers ?
[2010-11-13 08:14PM] <*****> New 0800 and xbc would be liky
[2010-11-13 08:14PM] <*****> Likely
[2010-11-13 08:14PM] <c4eva> yes
[2010-11-13 08:16PM] <****> c4eva, so if ap2.5 is game specific. Could ms implement new checks with an update and render the new drive FW useless again ?
[2010-11-13 08:18PM] <c4eva> ****:fw will be fine
[2010-11-13 08:19PM] <*******> c4eva original slim now can be updated to new firmware and after that it can be LT+ flashed with no problem?
[2010-11-13 08:20PM] <*********> how do you dump and test ap25 games for now? is it a secre?
[2010-11-13 08:20PM] <c4eva> *******:yes
[2010-11-13 08:20PM] <c4eva> *********:yes
[2010-11-13 08:32PM] <*********> <+c4eva> thanks for all your hard work man, we love you. Maybe consider putting out a non-LIVE version of the FW for those that dont care about LIVE. It would have to be easier on ou.
[2010-11-13 08:32PM] <*****> C4s always been committed to stealth
[2010-11-13 08:33PM] <*****> And im
[2010-11-13 08:33PM] <*****> Sure he is busy enough
[2010-11-13 08:33PM] <c4eva> ap25, live or no live, doesnt matter
[2010-11-13 08:35PM] <*********> my fable 3 doesnt show AP25 in ABGX???
[2010-11-13 08:36PM] <******> *********: Fable III doesn't have that flag
[2010-11-13 08:38PM] <c4eva> with new dash xex flag is irrelevant!
[2010-11-13 08:38PM] <******> yeah, so that becomes an unreliable method to determine
"all is good" for AC:B means it HAS AP2.5, C4E KNOWS this an is using it to test. I ASSUME thats what hes been waiting for all the time. To see if theres going to be more "challenges" in AP2.5 in different titles. If not I'd expect LT+ in 2 weeks to a month.
"You want false hope or not?"
"Only if you dont have any REAL hope."
This post has been edited by Xaian: Nov 14 2010, 09:13 AM
Post by: bullka on November 14, 2010, 02:43:00 AM
I think they have a big Security team (both on Liteon side and in MS internally) building the AP25. And just one person hacks it in just a few days.I guess c4e should be milionaire already thanks to all our donations
Post by: Maximize on November 14, 2010, 11:01:00 AM
Post by: OggyUK on November 14, 2010, 05:10:00 PM
QUOTE(bullka @ Nov 14 2010, 09:43 AM) 
I can image how MS management is pissed of because of just a one person
I think they have a big Security team (both on Liteon side and in MS internally) building the AP25. And just one person hacks it in just a few days.I guess c4e should be milionaire already thanks to all our donations
Funniest thing I've read in a long time.
Post by: xbox360sexual on November 14, 2010, 05:13:00 PM
Post by: tomgreen99200 on November 14, 2010, 05:26:00 PM
QUOTE(xbox360sexual @ Nov 15 2010, 01:13 AM) 
Why is it funny?
Probably that more people in the scene contribute and not just one person. Either way, its an amazing achievement.
Post by: Retroplay on November 15, 2010, 12:25:00 AM
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[2010-11-13 03:36PM] <*****> c4eva will LT+ firmware be available to hitachi v79 drives?
[2010-11-13 03:37PM] <c4eva> *****:maybe
[2010-11-13 03:37PM] <c4eva> *****:maybe
I'm keeping my fingers crossed on that one.
Sometimes it really annoys the hell out of me that I was unlucky enough to get one of those 79FL drives.
Post by: RRoD420 on November 15, 2010, 12:36:00 AM
since acb doesnt release until 11/16
Post by: kobe2424 on November 15, 2010, 01:11:00 AM
[2010-11-13 08:36PM] <******> *********: Fable III doesn't have that flag
[2010-11-13 08:38PM] <c4eva> with new dash xex flag is irrelevant!
[2010-11-13 08:38PM] <******> yeah, so that becomes an unreliable method to determine
wht does this mean??
This post has been edited by kobe2424: Nov 15 2010, 09:13 AM
Post by: cypher21 on November 15, 2010, 01:27:00 AM
QUOTE(tomgreen99200 @ Nov 15 2010, 12:26 AM)
Probably that more people in the scene contribute and not just one person. Either way, its an amazing achievement.
I'm 99% sure Oggs is laughing about this part:
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I guess c4e should be milionaire already thanks to all our donations smile.gif
Post by: Biaz on November 15, 2010, 02:08:00 AM
Post by: Spark on November 15, 2010, 05:38:00 AM
QUOTE(Biaz @ Nov 15 2010, 10:08 AM)
How will this affect JTAGs?
It won't.
Post by: axxxo on November 15, 2010, 06:01:00 AM
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[2010-11-13 06:25PM] <c4eva> ******:ap25 is checking osig
[2010-11-13 06:26PM] <******> +c4eva - what is osig?
[2010-11-13 06:27PM] <c4eva> original drive signature for motherboard
[2010-11-13 06:31PM] <c4eva> osig is interesting, they took out kernel check due to rrod repairs, now ap25 had to have it,otherwise everyone would be a sammy, now rrod repairs may not boot if osig wasnt updated!
[2010-11-13 06:35PM] <c4eva> its gone past just live, they want no backups booting period!
[2010-11-13 06:26PM] <******> +c4eva - what is osig?
[2010-11-13 06:27PM] <c4eva> original drive signature for motherboard
[2010-11-13 06:31PM] <c4eva> osig is interesting, they took out kernel check due to rrod repairs, now ap25 had to have it,otherwise everyone would be a sammy, now rrod repairs may not boot if osig wasnt updated!
[2010-11-13 06:35PM] <c4eva> its gone past just live, they want no backups booting period!
Does this mean that the original drive has to be in the xbox, for instance if someone had replaced their fecked drive from a hitachi to benq, then LT+ wont boot an AP2.5 game?
Post by: Buzzcut on November 15, 2010, 06:43:00 AM
Post by: jokuvuan on November 15, 2010, 06:46:00 AM
QUOTE(Xaian @ Nov 14 2010, 09:53 AM)
[******] is black ops as safe as any other game before the dash update?
[c4eva] ******:yes
What does this mean excatly? Black Ops was safe in the old dash? But how about the new dash, is is still safe, or does it containt AP2.5?
Post by: elementary on November 15, 2010, 09:08:00 AM
QUOTE(jokuvuan @ Nov 15 2010, 01:46 PM)
What does this mean excatly? Black Ops was safe in the old dash? But how about the new dash, is is still safe, or does it containt AP2.5?
Hi, From what i have read Black Ops IS safe in the OLD and NEW DASH!! it currently does NOT contain AP2.5...
BUT, possibly in the near future there may be a Title update for Balck Ops! which will include AP2.5!!
Post by: xbox360sexual on November 15, 2010, 10:13:00 AM
QUOTE(Buzzcut @ Nov 15 2010, 01:43 PM)
However spoofing is also now detected so you'd better replace that fecked Hitachi with another one.
Who says spoofing is detected?
Post by: cypher21 on November 15, 2010, 10:16:00 AM
QUOTE(xbox360sexual @ Nov 15 2010, 05:13 PM)
Who says spoofing is detected?
well, read this
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[c4eva] ******:ap25 is checking osig
[******] +c4eva - what is osig?
[c4eva] original drive signature for motherboard
[c4eva] osig is interesting, they took out kernel check due to rrod repairs, now ap25 had to have it,otherwise everyone would be a sammy, now rrod repairs may not boot if osig wasnt updated!
[******] +c4eva - what is osig?
[c4eva] original drive signature for motherboard
[c4eva] osig is interesting, they took out kernel check due to rrod repairs, now ap25 had to have it,otherwise everyone would be a sammy, now rrod repairs may not boot if osig wasnt updated!
Post by: ace_012 on November 15, 2010, 11:13:00 AM
Post by: nevernamed on November 15, 2010, 11:24:00 AM
QUOTE(ace_012 @ Nov 15 2010, 07:13 PM)
So pretty much no matter what the drives involved were, since osig is checked now spoofing is pretty much dead for xbox live users? That sucks :/ Is there any more information about a possible ban wave this holiday season after c4eva said he thinks there isn't any secuirty checks or w/e in the update?
OSIG will ban you offline too..
The only thing I'm foggy on, is whether or not you get flagged for any backup copy that doesn't have AP25.. At first people reported them NOT working after running fable..
Post by: mat82284 on November 15, 2010, 11:29:00 AM
QUOTE(ace_012 @ Nov 15 2010, 10:13 AM)
So pretty much no matter what the drives involved were, since osig is checked now spoofing is pretty much dead for xbox live users? That sucks :/ Is there any more information about a possible ban wave this holiday season after c4eva said he thinks there isn't any secuirty checks or w/e in the update?
Shit if thats the case i need to buy a lite on drive
I bought a new xbox a year ago the drive burned out after 2 months, so i replaced it with an old benq and has been perfect since. I should have flashed it back to original and sent it in.
I wonder if he can make firmware for the benq to make it act like a Lit-on and visa versa. I know most people out there who have spoofed would spoof from there lite-on drive because some required physical modifications to the drive.
Post by: cragnut on November 15, 2010, 12:22:00 PM
Post by: Suicyde on November 15, 2010, 12:39:00 PM
QUOTE(C4eva @ Nov 14 2010, 09:53 AM)
[2010-11-13 08:19PM] <*******> c4eva original slim now can be updated to new firmware and after that it can be LT+ flashed with no problem?
[2010-11-13 08:20PM] <c4eva> *******:yes
[2010-11-13 08:20PM] <c4eva> *******:yes
Not according to Geremia:
QUOTE(Geremia @ Nov 14 2010, 09:53 AM)
yes, if i'm the only one out here with a locked spi flash
Post by: snake3 on November 15, 2010, 02:15:00 PM
Does this mean we need to reburn our whole collection with SSv3 for the new dashboard?
Post by: tekno123 on November 15, 2010, 04:23:00 PM
Post by: tomgreen99200 on November 15, 2010, 05:09:00 PM
QUOTE(snake3 @ Nov 15 2010, 10:15 PM)
[c4eva] with new dash xex flag is irrelevant!
Does this mean we need to reburn our whole collection with SSv3 for the new dashboard?
That just means that the AP 2.5 in the xex being set to "true" is irrelevant since they are being sneaky and its not showing up. Only games with AP 2.5 will require ssv3 so your old ssv2 games are still valid for now.
QUOTE(tekno123 @ Nov 16 2010, 12:23 AM)
Quick question, if i have a liteon that died in a fat 360 and i replace with a samsung which i flash with the Correct key but it is not spoofed, would this be fine on the new dash? Since its not spoofed and has correct key
It would be fine if you want to get banned.
Post by: Drefsab on November 15, 2010, 05:48:00 PM
Would it be possible to spoof a liteon drive to report as a sammy or could a physical drive swap to a sammy/hitachi work? or would that box be no good for AP2.5 backup's until LT+ hits? I know it something im going to get asked at some point soon from a mate but he doesnt give a damn about live so thought id find out the facts
Post by: thecoo1est on November 15, 2010, 06:22:00 PM
QUOTE(Drefsab @ Nov 16 2010, 01:48 AM)
Hmm not that I have any issues because I have a jtag but say you have a banned console already so don't have to worry about live etc, but you want to play backup's of AP2.5 titles.
Would it be possible to spoof a liteon drive to report as a sammy or could a physical drive swap to a sammy/hitachi work? or would that box be no good for AP2.5 backup's until LT+ hits? I know it something im going to get asked at some point soon from a mate but he doesnt give a damn about live so thought id find out the facts (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I have a jasper with a lite-on and lt. I tried AC brotherhood, updated dash and you know what happened then. I tried taking a old hitachi 59out of a old rrod box, I flashed my lite-on key and a AC still doesnt work, I then spoofed the hitachi as a toshiba ms25, and still no go, always get the disc read error, I even tried reinstall update after spoofing hitachi and still nothing.
Anyone have any ideas I can try?
Post by: tekno123 on November 15, 2010, 06:24:00 PM
Post by: OggyUK on November 15, 2010, 11:08:00 PM
When you write fw back, it adopts that firmware revision, as the hardware is identical.
Post by: d2fmb on November 15, 2010, 11:36:00 PM
Post by: OggyUK on November 16, 2010, 12:48:00 AM
Use that Sam-ofw.bin as source in jf, liteon fw as target, spoof, erase liteon, write.
Roberts your mothers brother.