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Title: First Pictures of the x360SED v1.0 'Stealth Eject' Chip
Post by: Xbox-Scene on November 04, 2010, 10:31:00 AM
First Pictures of the x360SED v1.0 'Stealth Eject' Chip
Posted by XanTium | November 4 12:31 EST | News Category: Xbox360
 
Logic-Sunrise released the first pictures of the x360SED v1.0 'Stealth Eject' Chip for Xbox360 DVD drives. It will allow you to bypass the new AP2.5 protection in new games with the new Fall2010 (12611) dashboard and it'll allow you to play multi-player games on several consoles using just 1 disc of the game. It's not LIVE-safe however, so for non-LIVE consoles only. More details about the chip in our previous news.

Official Site: http://consoles.librasoft.fr/
News-Source/More Pictures: xbox-360.logic-sunrise.com



Title: First Pictures of the x360SED v1.0 'Stealth Eject' Chip
Post by: Lsd on November 04, 2010, 10:45:00 AM
how completely and utterly worthless this chip is.  Oh well, there are suckers born every minute.  Good luck to the developer i guess
Title: First Pictures of the x360SED v1.0 'Stealth Eject' Chip
Post by: Haruno on November 04, 2010, 10:59:00 AM
I'll be surprised if they make a profit from producing this useless crap.
Title: First Pictures of the x360SED v1.0 'Stealth Eject' Chip
Post by: Haruno on November 04, 2010, 11:14:00 AM
Tatsh, the first thing that happened to the 360 scene was c4eva's dvd firmware.
It was ONLY piracy before homebrew.
Homebrew brought more piracy in terms of XBLA but oh well.

Doesn't mean there shouldn't be a new rebooter. If anything, take out xlive so there wont be modded lobbies anymore. I don't see how that's a big deal because jtag + live is instant ban anyway.
Title: First Pictures of the x360SED v1.0 'Stealth Eject' Chip
Post by: brandogg on November 04, 2010, 11:28:00 AM
This is completely counterproductive, and it will get you banned from Xbox Live if you use it (which is the whole purpose for the product). Stupid. Just buy games and you'll be fine.
Title: First Pictures of the x360SED v1.0 'Stealth Eject' Chip
Post by: Tatsh on November 04, 2010, 11:28:00 AM
I'm well aware that the first thing was piracy with c4eva's firmware mods, and we knew that couldn't really lead us down the road to firmware unless there would've been a vulnerability in there to run code on the machine as opposed to just the micro-controller in the drives. Clearly not the case as nothing has happened from DVD firmware except piracy and legitimate backups. I believe in your right to make backups. I used to use my Kreon drive to do so. That is, your OWN backups from your OWN real legitimate games. Microsoft may disagree and so might the DMCA but we know a consumer war is really going to begin when they bring on the next format and and the next telling us we have to buy all our media AGAIN (mainly talking about films here).

I'm not sure why people go on-line with JTAGs anyway. It is an instant ban nearly. I would never take any of mine on-line for any reason.
Title: First Pictures of the x360SED v1.0 'Stealth Eject' Chip
Post by: diablomastabarb on November 04, 2010, 11:37:00 AM
Really? 2 diodes and an IC? This is the leading edge in technology, guys.
Anyone with a little knowledge in small electronics and a manufacturer's sheet can build this for about $2, plus shipping. Mind you, you'd have to wire the connectors manually, but still, I'd prefer that to paying ridiculous amounts of money for components readily available elsewhere at far less of a price.

Besides, given the fact that this is such a novel device, I don't see why it would even be worth the effort, let alone the money.

This post has been edited by diablomastabarb: Nov 4 2010, 06:45 PM
Title: First Pictures of the x360SED v1.0 'Stealth Eject' Chip
Post by: RoCkP on November 04, 2010, 11:45:00 AM
omfg that is so cool,we can play games on our 360's without the disc...oh wait my jtag does that just fine and i can play much more people online thru kai without needing to crowd all my buddies in my living room and setup tv's and xboxes like its the next bieber....good effort not enough thought as to why people would want to buy this product.

tatsh with all due respect- if your so against piracy and have so much negative things to say about the scene,why do u have 2 jtag consoles?the purpose of a jtag for 99% of people is to be pirates.you cant say its for homebrew because there isnt that much and most of it is emulators and rom sets.i hope you dont think your emus and rom sets dont have an owner -think again.if you dont have it for those reasons then the last one would be hosting prestige lobbies and modding games and if this is what your doing,your way worse then any of us pirates.avast ya stinkin land lubber time to walk the plank and take a trip down to me mateys place in davey jones locker!!me dont know which bung hole you climbed out of ya filthy bilge rat but me n my matey's are the greatest pirates that ever sailed these digital seas!!  ((NO OFFENSE))

This post has been edited by RoCkP: Nov 4 2010, 07:02 PM
Title: First Pictures of the x360SED v1.0 'Stealth Eject' Chip
Post by: Bad_Ad on November 04, 2010, 11:56:00 AM
QUOTE(Tatsh @ Nov 4 2010, 06:28 PM) View Post

 Clearly not the case as nothing has happened from DVD firmware except piracy and legitimate backups.


Wrong. King Kong exploit came from the hacked dvd drives that would play a king kong disc with the patched files.

no hacked dvd firmware = no king kong exploit, which was the first homebrew solution for the 360

QUOTE(diablomastabarb @ Nov 4 2010, 06:37 PM) View Post

Really? 2 diodes and an IC? This is the leading edge in technology, guys.
Anyone with a little knowledge in small electronics and a manufacturer's sheet can build this for about $2, plus shipping. Mind you, you'd have to wire the connectors manually, but still, I'd prefer that to paying ridiculous amounts of money for components readily available elsewhere at far less of a price.

Besides, given the fact that this is such a novel device, I don't see why it would even be worth the effort, let alone the money.


The IC will have code on it, the protection bit will be set, so people cant just read the code off it.

Someone could reverse it, but its trival to make anyway from scratch. its just stopping the eject line going high or low, then the wire you need to solder will be to a point to either eject the disk or a line to keep the drive as "in".

This is all from not even looking at the 360 or the drive, but basic electronics and an educated guess.
Title: First Pictures of the x360SED v1.0 'Stealth Eject' Chip
Post by: diablomastabarb on November 04, 2010, 12:10:00 PM
QUOTE(Bad_Ad @ Nov 4 2010, 06:56 PM) View Post

The IC will have code on it, the protection bit will be set, so people cant just read the code off it.

Someone could reverse it, but its trival to make anyway from scratch. its just stopping the eject line going high or low, then the wire you need to solder will be to a point to either eject the disk or a line to keep the drive as "in".

This is all from not even looking at the 360 or the drive, but basic electronics and an educated guess.


Exactly.
Title: First Pictures of the x360SED v1.0 'Stealth Eject' Chip
Post by: Reaper527 on November 04, 2010, 12:37:00 PM
QUOTE(Bad_Ad @ Nov 4 2010, 01:56 PM) View Post

The IC will have code on it, the protection bit will be set, so people cant just read the code off it.


just like the psjailbreak, right smile.gif

i would be surprised if this code doesn't leak before the product ships
Title: First Pictures of the x360SED v1.0 'Stealth Eject' Chip
Post by: ddxcb on November 04, 2010, 02:01:00 PM
QUOTE(Bad_Ad @ Nov 4 2010, 10:56 AM) *

Wrong. King Kong exploit came from the hacked dvd drives that would play a king kong disc with the patched files.

no hacked dvd firmware = no king kong exploit, which was the first homebrew solution for the 360

Dont forget ms firmware update that allows more excutable in the HV. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Title: First Pictures of the x360SED v1.0 'Stealth Eject' Chip
Post by: Takashi on November 04, 2010, 02:08:00 PM
QUOTE(RoCkP @ Nov 4 2010, 12:45 PM) View Post

...and xboxes like its the next bieber...



Somehow sticking Justin Bieber into an XBS post, Amazing!
 biggrin.gif
Title: First Pictures of the x360SED v1.0 'Stealth Eject' Chip
Post by: robsonnbi on November 04, 2010, 05:22:00 PM
And here are the winning lotto numbers of today:

1-2-f-6-7-5

This post has been edited by robsonnbi: Nov 5 2010, 12:23 AM
Title: First Pictures of the x360SED v1.0 'Stealth Eject' Chip
Post by: symbal on November 04, 2010, 05:52:00 PM
All this talk about hardware mods making people money but where the hell's the software exploits? I keep reading for even a crumb of  news to give me some hope 360 homebrew becomes more than just ways of simplifying getting all your retail software for free, everyone but the most delusional among us know Jtag is a complete lost cause, so one simple question, is anything currently happening to give any hope of an exploit?
Title: First Pictures of the x360SED v1.0 'Stealth Eject' Chip
Post by: Perkele on November 05, 2010, 12:53:00 AM
QUOTE(robsonnbi @ Nov 4 2010, 11:22 PM) *

And here are the winning lotto numbers of today:

1-2-f-6-7-5

So? Without the code it's useless.
Title: First Pictures of the x360SED v1.0 'Stealth Eject' Chip
Post by: Takashi on November 05, 2010, 01:18:00 AM
QUOTE(symbal @ Nov 4 2010, 06:52 PM) View Post

...everyone but the most delusional among us know Jtag is a complete lost cause

It's only a "lost cause" if you're clueless.
Title: First Pictures of the x360SED v1.0 'Stealth Eject' Chip
Post by: Bad_Ad on November 05, 2010, 02:44:00 AM
QUOTE(Reaper527 @ Nov 4 2010, 07:37 PM) *

just like the psjailbreak, right smile.gif

i would be surprised if this code doesn't leak before the product ships


Pretty much, but the psjailbreak code wasnt directly read from the device and "leaked" it was reversed.

Logic analyser and some time and someone could reimplement this in a DIY solution. I dont expect it to take long for someone to post a hex that functions the same way as this.

Or they could just recreate it from scratch, its not a complex project.
Title: First Pictures of the x360SED v1.0 'Stealth Eject' Chip
Post by: symbal on November 05, 2010, 05:02:00 AM
QUOTE(Takashi @ Nov 5 2010, 07:18 AM) View Post

It's only a "lost cause" if you're clueless.

When only a hardcore few buy it and 99% of homebrew is piracy tools then yeah it is a complete lost cause, and before anyone says it i know some people use it to genuinely keep content they legitimately bought, but that'll be no more than 1% of people who use it.
Title: First Pictures of the x360SED v1.0 'Stealth Eject' Chip
Post by: BoNg420 on November 05, 2010, 06:02:00 AM
Definitely a waste of money.  New firmware should be out within a month or two, this is just a waste and isn't safe for live.  I don't even understand why the developer would go through the trouble of making these.  He would be better off just putting up a tutorial on how to build your own.  He will only get a few month of sales out of these if lucky or if there is any desire by people to actually buy them.
Title: First Pictures of the x360SED v1.0 'Stealth Eject' Chip
Post by: Bad_Ad on November 05, 2010, 06:12:00 AM
Probably took a day to design and test.

probably around $3 per board from china.

Doesn't need to sell much to make him enough money to buy a few new toys (tools).
Title: First Pictures of the x360SED v1.0 'Stealth Eject' Chip
Post by: letsmod on November 05, 2010, 10:20:00 AM
and C4E has already stated using this will most likely  get you banned
Title: First Pictures of the x360SED v1.0 'Stealth Eject' Chip
Post by: viper3344 on November 05, 2010, 02:20:00 PM
Will this method still work even if your AP25 banned?