Post by: Xbox-Scene on January 19, 2010, 06:26:00 PM
C4E's iXtreme LT Firmware and Jungle Flasher v0.1.70 (85S) Posted by XanTium | January 19 20:26 EST | News Category: Xbox360 |
| From team-xecuter.com: Quote After a great deal of development and anticipation we are pleased to announce for the first time that Team Xecuter are giving direct support to C4EVA to help his development capabilities and to make sure that the scene get's the best work from the scene's #1 360 firmware coder - for absolutely no cost at all times. Naturally donations are always welcome :p Official Site: twitter.com/TeamJungle | http://jungleflasher.net | http://team-xecuter.com Download JungleFlasher v0.1.70(85S): here Download C4E's iXtreme Lite Touch (LT): n/a (might be illegal under DMCA/EUCD) |
Post by: feidhlim1986 on January 19, 2010, 06:29:00 PM
Don't all new consoles these days come with Lite-on drives, I feel like I read that somewhere
This post has been edited by feidhlim1986: Jan 20 2010, 02:33 AM
Post by: HotKnife420 on January 19, 2010, 06:29:00 PM
Post by: Lush on January 19, 2010, 06:30:00 PM
Post by: sinn78 on January 19, 2010, 06:32:00 PM
Post by: bennybullfrog on January 19, 2010, 06:32:00 PM
I wonder what the ramifications of using SS v1 are.
Post by: DaShiZNiT on January 19, 2010, 06:33:00 PM
Post by: pwnsweet on January 19, 2010, 06:33:00 PM
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Post by: Ultimatemale420 on January 19, 2010, 06:33:00 PM
I SURE HOPE BENQ IS NEXT!!!
Post by: Jak_Da_Riipa on January 19, 2010, 06:36:00 PM
Post by: Pseudo99 on January 19, 2010, 06:38:00 PM
Post by: lonedeath on January 19, 2010, 06:38:00 PM
QUOTE(Jak_Da_Riipa @ Jan 20 2010, 03:36 AM) 
When do you guys think the next ban wave will come around??
Its usually once a year around the same time (November) but who knows with microsoft...
Post by: tskiller on January 19, 2010, 06:38:00 PM
Post by: lonedeath on January 19, 2010, 06:39:00 PM
Post by: Jak_Da_Riipa on January 19, 2010, 06:40:00 PM
QUOTE(lonedeath @ Jan 19 2010, 08:38 PM)
Its usually once a year around the same time (November) but who knows with microsoft...
Ok Then, Cause ive been using non-stealth
but im jus gonna say W/E and ride the wave
Post by: nevernamed on January 19, 2010, 06:41:00 PM
Post by: bhazard on January 19, 2010, 06:48:00 PM
Post by: baberg on January 19, 2010, 06:50:00 PM
Thanks to the scene for all the hard work. Don't let the haters get you down. The silent majority out here know what you've sacrificed for little or no reward.
Post by: Modify_inc on January 19, 2010, 06:50:00 PM
Post by: quantex on January 19, 2010, 06:53:00 PM
Anyone knows if flash still works in ms-dos?
I always have problems writing firmware in windows.
Any news about the release date for other drives?
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Post by: ddd1 on January 19, 2010, 06:55:00 PM
Post by: SniperKilla on January 19, 2010, 06:57:00 PM
The way people reacted to nothing but rumors was sickening.
Post by: kaneda_77 on January 19, 2010, 06:59:00 PM
i appreciate the hell out you guys!
Post by: f575gtc on January 19, 2010, 07:00:00 PM
Post by: nu7c453 on January 19, 2010, 07:01:00 PM
Post by: BlackCloud1711 on January 19, 2010, 07:01:00 PM
Have a banned Liteon, cba with the wave booting disc.
Thanks C4E
I never doubted you for a second
Post by: m4sterchi3f on January 19, 2010, 07:02:00 PM
Post by: creed7727 on January 19, 2010, 07:04:00 PM
Post by: Ree1981 on January 19, 2010, 07:04:00 PM
QUOTE(tskiller @ Jan 20 2010, 02:38 AM)
Cool, guess I'll give this a try sooner or later, when I feel like opening my 360 up again.
Again? As in, it's been modded already? Then you're screwed (according to the text). This only works for virgin Xboxes, apparently.
QUOTE(BlackCloud1711 @ Jan 20 2010, 03:01 AM)
I know it isn't safe, but are non-splitvid discs still bootable with LT?
Have a banned Liteon, cba with the wave booting disc.
Yup. I believe LT behaves just like iXtreme 1.6 No Stealth, from the users perspective. No boot discs, no wave checks, it'll just assume you know what the h*** you're doing and run whatever you plug into the Xbox, for better or worse.
The real problem is.. how the hell do you phrase this to the average Joe customer? "Yeah, it's live safe, sorta... probably. You'll know by the end of the year, ok?".
Post by: Matrix01 on January 19, 2010, 07:04:00 PM
Gratz on the new firmware guys thanks for the time that was put into it and best of all thanks for the free firmware.
Post by: m4sterchi3f on January 19, 2010, 07:06:00 PM
QUOTE(Ree1981 @ Jan 19 2010, 09:04 PM)
Again? As in, it's been modded already? Then you're screwed (according to the text). This only works for virgin Xboxes, apparently.
It will still work. It will just work better on an untouched box. And if you have an already modded console, it will work too, just as long as it has not been flagged.
Post by: Vejita on January 19, 2010, 07:06:00 PM
QUOTE(BlackCloud1711 @ Jan 20 2010, 02:01 AM)
I know it isn't safe, but are non-splitvid discs still bootable with LT?
I'd also like to know.
Post by: devilstrider on January 19, 2010, 07:08:00 PM
Post by: pwnsweet on January 19, 2010, 07:08:00 PM
QUOTE
Warning! Lt will not save you from being banned if console is already flagged by using a previous firmware or non-stealth discs
Does this only refer to playing on Live with a previous firmware/non-stealth disc? What if I've flashed my drive with previous firmware but have never connected my console to Live? Will my console keep a record of this?
Post by: vpforlyfe on January 19, 2010, 07:08:00 PM
Odd, I thought it seems safer to flash LT first and than update your dash to the latest. I am referring to those who still have the previous ixtreme and never updated to the latest dash.
This post has been edited by vpforlyfe: Jan 20 2010, 03:10 AM
Post by: m4sterchi3f on January 19, 2010, 07:09:00 PM
QUOTE(pwnsweet @ Jan 19 2010, 09:08 PM)
I have a question that I think many will also have. It's about this line in the readme:
Does this only refer to playing on Live with a previous firmware/non-stealth disc? What if I've flashed my drive with previous firmware but have never connected my console to Live? Will my console keep a record of this?
If you have never connected to Live, you never could have been flagged.
You should be fine.
Post by: zeromx on January 19, 2010, 07:09:00 PM
Post by: notmyrealname on January 19, 2010, 07:10:00 PM
Post by: foolkiller on January 19, 2010, 07:10:00 PM
Post by: lostprophet_23 on January 19, 2010, 07:11:00 PM
QUOTE(notmyrealname @ Jan 19 2010, 09:10 PM)
well after being offline for 3+ months...guess what, i'm banned, and i wasn't flagged, so what gives?
Apparently you were.
Post by: pwnsweet on January 19, 2010, 07:11:00 PM
QUOTE(m4sterchi3f @ Jan 20 2010, 10:09 AM)
If you have never connected to Live, you never could have been flagged.
You should be fine.Thanks for the amazingly fast and informative reply!
Post by: kero on January 19, 2010, 07:12:00 PM
QUOTE
Disc images must also be splitvid and preferred SS v2
Does this mean images that are NOT splitvid will NOT load?
QUOTE
It is also advisable to apply all system updates before flashing with LT. All future console system updates (not game updates) must be applied with caution
So do not use if you have a old dash (ie going to J-TAG your console or have not connected to live for a long time)?
Did they find something that affects the drive in the lastest dashboard?
Post by: skyliner99 on January 19, 2010, 07:13:00 PM
Post by: lonedeath on January 19, 2010, 07:13:00 PM
Post by: hareball25 on January 19, 2010, 07:14:00 PM
QUOTE(vpforlyfe @ Jan 19 2010, 09:08 PM)
"It is also advisable to apply all system updates before flashing with LT. All future console system updates (not game updates) must be applied with caution"
Odd, I thought it seems safer to flash LT first and than update your dash to the latest. I am referring to those who still have the previous ixtreme and never updated to the latest dash.
I agree...hmm...strange?!?
Post by: iglitare on January 19, 2010, 07:16:00 PM
QUOTE(devilstrider @ Jan 20 2010, 03:08 AM) 
Thought you could not flash a Lite On drive. I always though you had to get the key and replace the drive with another and spoof the firmware.
wow. what have you done with your 179 posts??
There are 4 Versions of Lite-On out there. All can be flashed.
First Lite-On was flashable arround mid 2009 i guess...
you know some things happend?
The name "obama" sounds familar? if not, you should watch news, too.
By the way. It is also possible to have a thing in which you can drive arround, but you don´t need horses anymore!!!
Post by: TheBends on January 19, 2010, 07:17:00 PM
Post by: scorpionrecords on January 19, 2010, 07:20:00 PM
IT DOESN'T WORK!!!!!!! PISSED OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY BOTHER IT DOESN'T WORK!!! I WILL POST A VIDEO OF MY BANNED XBOX.... WATCH HOLD ON....
Post by: f575gtc on January 19, 2010, 07:21:00 PM
Post by: lostprophet_23 on January 19, 2010, 07:22:00 PM
QUOTE(scorpionrecords @ Jan 19 2010, 09:20 PM)
I GOT RIPPED OFF I GOT BANNED FROM XBOX LIVE!!!!!!!!!!!! I WAS JUST ABOUT TO PLAY STREET FIGHTER IV ON XBOX LIVE AND I GOT BANNED! I UPDATED MY LITEON 83850C
IT DOESN'T WORK!!!!!!! PISSED OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY BOTHER IT DOESN'T WORK!!! I WILL POST A VIDEO OF MY BANNED XBOX.... WATCH HOLD ON....
So you had a previous firmware and were flagged previously. Stop crying. Also, how did you get ripped off? Did you pay for it? Probably not.
Post by: iglitare on January 19, 2010, 07:23:00 PM
QUOTE(scorpionrecords @ Jan 20 2010, 03:20 AM)
I GOT RIPPED OFF I GOT BANNED FROM XBOX LIVE!!!!!!!!!!!! I WAS JUST ABOUT TO PLAY STREET FIGHTER IV ON XBOX LIVE AND I GOT BANNED! I UPDATED MY LITEON 83850C
IT DOESN'T WORK!!!!!!! PISSED OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY BOTHER IT DOESN'T WORK!!! I WILL POST A VIDEO OF MY BANNED XBOX.... WATCH HOLD ON....
you are a real dumbass.
If your drive ever had a firmware other than LT before, the your Console could be flaged...
you can make videos as much as you like.
even a video from you putting your wiener in you xbox wouldt make a difference
Post by: Midnight Tboy on January 19, 2010, 07:23:00 PM
Post by: chorizo1 on January 19, 2010, 07:25:00 PM
QUOTE(Midnight Tboy @ Jan 19 2010, 08:23 PM)
this is gonna get really annoying with ppl connecting their box up for first time in 2 months+ and saying "this firmware has banned them!!"
get your popcorn.
Post by: Vejita on January 19, 2010, 07:25:00 PM
Post by: lonedeath on January 19, 2010, 07:26:00 PM
QUOTE(scorpionrecords @ Jan 20 2010, 04:20 AM) 
I GOT RIPPED OFF I GOT BANNED FROM XBOX LIVE!!!!!!!!!!!! I WAS JUST ABOUT TO PLAY STREET FIGHTER IV ON XBOX LIVE AND I GOT BANNED! I UPDATED MY LITEON 83850C
IT DOESN'T WORK!!!!!!! PISSED OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY BOTHER IT DOESN'T WORK!!! I WILL POST A VIDEO OF MY BANNED XBOX.... WATCH HOLD ON....
Obv this guy is taking the piss
Post by: deans21 on January 19, 2010, 07:26:00 PM
But really... all the people complaining about bans were definitely flagged before. And really? Ripped off? How much did you pay for LT again?
Post by: lostprophet_23 on January 19, 2010, 07:26:00 PM
QUOTE(Vejita @ Jan 19 2010, 09:25 PM)
There is no advantage to using LT fw on a banned box compared to iX no stealth right like faster loading or better compatibility with disc brands etc?
Probably not.
Post by: jeffrey92 on January 19, 2010, 07:30:00 PM
but... no benq
i want benq
Post by: pricemeista33 on January 19, 2010, 07:32:00 PM
Thanks
Post by: Franssen on January 19, 2010, 07:32:00 PM
Waiting for Benq Lt
Thanks
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 19, 2010, 07:34:00 PM
Post by: ste030 on January 19, 2010, 07:35:00 PM
Pack includes:
*ABGX 1.0.2
*iXtreme LT all liteon firmwares
*Liteon orig.bin
*Jungle flasher v0.1.70 Beta
*iXtreme LT NFO
This post has been edited by ste030: Jan 20 2010, 03:43 AM
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 19, 2010, 07:37:00 PM
QUOTE(ste030 @ Jan 20 2010, 03:35 AM)
All in one LT pack download here:
Pack includes:
*ABGX 1.0.2
*iXtreme LT all liteon firmwares
*Liteon orig.bin
*Jungle flasher v0.1.70 Beta
*iXtreme LT NFO
Firmware links are not allowed to be posted here.
Plus just go to JungleFlasher's Twitter page, the link is there.
Post by: naser075 on January 19, 2010, 07:39:00 PM
where can I download the LT firmware from . any link?
also is this only for the lite on drives or is there anything for samsung hitachi and benq ....
great job and thanks for the info if you guys can provide it to me
ohh and what is ssv2 also
This post has been edited by naser075: Jan 20 2010, 03:42 AM
Post by: Kloud on January 19, 2010, 07:39:00 PM
Any reports of other "virgin" systems being flashed and playing backups online? Properly stealthed of course.
This post has been edited by Kloud: Jan 20 2010, 03:42 AM
Post by: fffttt on January 19, 2010, 07:39:00 PM
Post by: Charbless on January 19, 2010, 07:44:00 PM
Why are Team Xecuter getting credit what have they offered us this generation apart from rip off prices.
Thanks c4e and team jungle
Post by: evolution2147 on January 19, 2010, 07:50:00 PM
QUOTE(scorpionrecords @ Jan 20 2010, 03:20 AM)
I GOT RIPPED OFF I GOT BANNED FROM XBOX LIVE!!!!!!!!!!!! I WAS JUST ABOUT TO PLAY STREET FIGHTER IV ON XBOX LIVE AND I GOT BANNED! I UPDATED MY LITEON 83850C
IT DOESN'T WORK!!!!!!! PISSED OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY BOTHER IT DOESN'T WORK!!! I WILL POST A VIDEO OF MY BANNED XBOX.... WATCH HOLD ON....
hahahahahahahahaa
Post by: walterg74 on January 19, 2010, 07:50:00 PM
QUOTE(Charbless @ Jan 20 2010, 12:44 AM)
I like that in the pack the original lite-on firmwares have been included.
Why are Team Xecuter getting credit what have they offered us this generation apart from rip off prices.
Thanks c4e and team jungle
"Rip off" prices? you probably want them to give you stuff for free and even go to your housr and do the modding, huh? Talk about a cheapskate... You don't even deserve to have this, go out and buy originals, see if that's cheap enough for you...
Post by: dreK on January 19, 2010, 07:50:00 PM
QUOTE(Charbless @ Jan 20 2010, 03:44 AM)
I like that in the pack the original lite-on firmwares have been included.
Why are Team Xecuter getting credit what have they offered us this generation apart from rip off prices.
Thanks c4e and team jungle
Probably threw a little cash to c4e and TJ for some credit & support.
Ontopic: Thanks
Post by: jeffrey92 on January 19, 2010, 07:52:00 PM
but it wasn't too hard to find
scratch that i just didnt refresh ma bad
This post has been edited by jeffrey92: Jan 20 2010, 03:54 AM
Post by: BlueSlingShot on January 19, 2010, 07:54:00 PM
QUOTE(fffttt @ Jan 20 2010, 03:39 AM)
Waiting for the one for samsung
Yes i'm curious too as i have a samsung drive. I could of swore i read in that "memoir" topic posted a month ago that there will only be developement for liteon drives for LT firmware. No samsung, hitachi, benq,etc, but don't quote me on that. I could of read it wrong.
I seriously don't believe this
This is great news but i shipped my 360 for jtagging today.Duet o some stuff i was readng on some other sites, people were stating LT is on hold cause c4e's test boxes were getting banned left and right, i thought this was the end of stealth firmware. Even if they come out with sammy LT the jtag will ban me.Guess i'll have to pick up an arcade if it comes to it
Post by: jeffrey92 on January 19, 2010, 07:55:00 PM
Post by: garlon on January 19, 2010, 07:55:00 PM
Post by: thecrunked on January 19, 2010, 07:55:00 PM
although i think im gonna stick with 1.6 with activate.iso built in cause im not taking my box online
Post by: tehloxely on January 19, 2010, 07:58:00 PM
Post by: GOTitCUZiMODDED on January 19, 2010, 07:58:00 PM
Post by: SnizzelFlap on January 19, 2010, 08:00:00 PM
Is anyone working on a solder free method?
Post by: themonsterbbc on January 19, 2010, 08:03:00 PM
Post by: gamesquest1 on January 19, 2010, 08:04:00 PM
Also im sure the new "unmoddable" dvd drives will be around soon so might be an idea for ppl to grab one before it gets to the point where some arnt moddable again
This post has been edited by gamesquest1: Jan 20 2010, 04:06 AM
Post by: ste030 on January 19, 2010, 08:10:00 PM
Post by: odgaf on January 19, 2010, 08:13:00 PM
This post has been edited by odgaf: Jan 20 2010, 04:27 AM
Post by: jrat on January 19, 2010, 08:13:00 PM
Now for my question - Can other drives no longer be spoofed with LT? The inquiry/identify strings do not seem to be saving to the LT-CFW - nowhere within the saved FW can I find my sammy info.
It shows correctly after spoofing, but upon saving and reopening, it shows the DG-16D2S inquiry/identify. Hex edit can't find the string either.
Not to mention, it doesn't show "Spoofed as:" as it previously did. It would suck not be able to use this stack of LiteOns with my boxes.
OR.. Did I miss something?
Post by: octo on January 19, 2010, 08:14:00 PM
Post by: Ranger72 on January 19, 2010, 08:15:00 PM
QUOTE(SnizzelFlap @ Jan 19 2010, 10:00 PM)
I guess that soldering is still required to dump the lite-on 93450c .
Is anyone working on a solder free method?
There is no software only solution to the two new drives. There is no news that this will ever happen.
There will be many people who unplugged from Live when they seen the ban wave that started last November and have not been on Live since waiting for this LT. THESE PEOPLE WILL PROMPTLY GET BANNED ONCE LOGGING BACK ONTO LIVE WITH THEIR NEW LT FIRMWARE!
This is NOT a flaw in LT. This just means that you was already banned back in November but you just didn't know it yet because you stayed off Live until now. Don,t be a dumb ass and come in here complaining about LT getting you banned when it has NOTHING to do with LT for you getting banned.
Post by: fffttt on January 19, 2010, 08:15:00 PM
QUOTE(BlueSlingShot @ Jan 20 2010, 10:54 AM)
Yes i'm curious too as i have a samsung drive. I could of swore i read in that "memoir" topic posted a month ago that there will only be developement for liteon drives for LT firmware. No samsung, hitachi, benq,etc, but don't quote me on that. I could of read it wrong.
I seriously don't believe this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This is great news but i shipped my 360 for jtagging today.Duet o some stuff i was readng on some other sites, people were stating LT is on hold cause c4e's test boxes were getting banned left and right, i thought this was the end of stealth firmware. Even if they come out with sammy LT the jtag will ban me.
Guess i'll have to pick up an arcade if it comes to it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
I have not seen a official statement of "only for liteon". so I guess there will still be firmwares for other drivers. and if it is out, i think it will be my last time to update firmware for my old samsung. Since it is waveless and I'm tired to do so.
Post by: RoCkP on January 19, 2010, 08:16:00 PM
on a second note they would of course work on the version for the latest distribution 360's first,as most will have the new ones or be getting them.plus not many virgin ts,hitachi or benq drives out there.most are already flashed and probably flagged.not much point in putting the work for models in such a state.i wouldnt be surprised or disappointed if it wasn't even released for the other drives.why bother really,let everyone ride out the systems on the f/w thats on em,and get a new xbox for use with LT.makes sense considering the warning issued about a virgin xbox.....think about it....think...about...it
Post by: SLuSHIE on January 19, 2010, 08:20:00 PM
Post by: federicozose on January 19, 2010, 08:22:00 PM
Post by: gamemaster9641 on January 19, 2010, 08:23:00 PM
QUOTE(RoCkP @ Jan 19 2010, 09:16 PM)
thanks alot everyone involved
on a second note they would of course work on the version for the latest distribution 360's first,as most will have the new ones or be getting them.plus not many virgin ts,hitachi or benq drives out there.most are already flashed and probably flagged.not much point in putting the work for models in such a state.i wouldnt be surprised or disappointed if it wasn't even released for the other drives.why bother really,let everyone ride out the systems on the f/w thats on em,and get a new xbox for use with LT.makes sense considering the warning issued about a virgin xbox.....think about it....think...about...itNo, i have a virgin xbox 360 on live right now with a Hitachi 59 drive, unmodded, i bet there are still people like me who still would like LT to be released on the older drives.
Post by: matt_cooper_1987 on January 19, 2010, 08:24:00 PM
iv never been able to get jungleflasher to work,
cheers in advance,
matt
Post by: jeffrey92 on January 19, 2010, 08:28:00 PM
QUOTE(RoCkP @ Jan 19 2010, 07:16 PM)
thanks alot everyone involved
on a second note they would of course work on the version for the latest distribution 360's first,as most will have the new ones or be getting them.plus not many virgin ts,hitachi or benq drives out there.most are already flashed and probably flagged.not much point in putting the work for models in such a state.i wouldnt be surprised or disappointed if it wasn't even released for the other drives.why bother really,let everyone ride out the systems on the f/w thats on em,and get a new xbox for use with LT.makes sense considering the warning issued about a virgin xbox.....think about it....think...about...iti see your logic but there are still thousands of consoles that are not banned and have older drives, probably millions. There are still tons of 360s that are MS refurbs and have benq drives and are being sent out, or refurbs by 3rd party individuals and companies that will have older drives.
i can understand samsungs and hitachis not being supported, but those suck anyways. but benq?
Post by: Leandros on January 19, 2010, 08:28:00 PM
Hopefully it comes soon.
Post by: garlon on January 19, 2010, 08:28:00 PM
Jst want to ask something a few hours ago i flashed e new box with 1.61 never connected to live... Is it safe to flash with LT now and go online?
Post by: ThE MaSTeR 3 on January 19, 2010, 08:29:00 PM
Post by: danzio2020 on January 19, 2010, 08:30:00 PM
The xbox i'm using is an arcade with a 7xxxx series lite-on
Post by: Leandros on January 19, 2010, 08:30:00 PM
QUOTE(garlon @ Jan 20 2010, 04:28 AM)
Thanks to all of you that make this possible.
Jst want to ask something a few hours ago i flashed e new box with 1.61 never connected to live... Is it safe to flash with LT now and go online?
You would have never been flagged which would mean if you would update to LT, you'll be fine.
Post by: JBmtk on January 19, 2010, 08:31:00 PM
QUOTE(matt_cooper_1987 @ Jan 19 2010, 10:24 PM)
anyone got any idea if we can flash with dosflash, insert key with firmtool?
iv never been able to get jungleflasher to work,
cheers in advance,
matt
You don't need jungle flasher...I never used it...only DOS tools, which is easier and more reliable.
Post by: ImpactPlayer on January 19, 2010, 08:31:00 PM
QUOTE(jeffrey92 @ Jan 19 2010, 10:28 PM)
i see your logic but there are still thousands of consoles that are not banned and have older drives, probably millions. There are still tons of 360s that are MS refurbs and have benq drives and are being sent out, or refurbs by 3rd party individuals and companies that will have older drives.
i can understand samsungs and hitachis not being supported, but those suck anyways. but benq?
The firmware is undoubtedly coming for all drives. In the past, firmware for one drive is released first and the firmware for the remaining drives follows within the next few days. Most of the time Lite-on was the one that lagged behind, or didn't even release with some iterations of ix. This time lite-on is out first, but it doesn't mean that the others aren't coming. Patience people.
And thanks c4e & team jungle (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Post by: Aksh0le on January 19, 2010, 08:34:00 PM
Post by: daoneandonly on January 19, 2010, 08:35:00 PM
Post by: Psito on January 19, 2010, 08:35:00 PM
Service is not available right now your box is flagged and will be banned new firmware or not. Its going to be pretty annoying with so many people accusing the new firmware does not work when they were flagged in the first place.
Post by: cytokinetic on January 19, 2010, 08:37:00 PM
QUOTE(devilstrider @ Jan 19 2010, 07:08 PM)
Thought you could not flash a Lite On drive. I always though you had to get the key and replace the drive with another and spoof the firmware.
Where have you been the last 13 months? Even the newer 83850c and 93450c drives have been flashable for more than a month.
Great job C4EVA! Thanks for all of your hard work.
Post by: farntheplaya on January 19, 2010, 08:39:00 PM
that can be done with using XVAL
what you are recommending wouldnt work in this specific case
-a console thats been offline forever and has been playing all wave 4/5 games.
therefore he HAS the latest updates and his console is storing this data BUT because he hasnt been online microsoft has no info that his console is modded. therefore the repair would go through
Post by: jeffrey92 on January 19, 2010, 08:40:00 PM
QUOTE(ImpactPlayer @ Jan 19 2010, 07:31 PM)
The firmware is undoubtedly coming for all drives. In the past, firmware for one drive is released first and the firmware for the remaining drives follows within the next few days. Most of the time Lite-on was the one that lagged behind, or didn't even release with some iterations of ix. This time lite-on is out first, but it doesn't mean that the others aren't coming. Patience people.
And thanks c4e & team jungle
true... but in previous released they would always say something like... "hitachi coming soon or soon to follow"
they didn't mention other drives at all
Post by: KaISeR SoZEi on January 19, 2010, 08:41:00 PM
Also does anyone know if The Kreon bug with angle 359 is patched on the fly on LT or not ?
This post has been edited by KaISeR SoZEi: Jan 20 2010, 04:46 AM
Post by: xunderxoathx on January 19, 2010, 08:43:00 PM
Post by: Achtung on January 19, 2010, 08:44:00 PM
I like to flash xbox's before powering them on the first time and connecting to live they are now advising against this?
Post by: Psito on January 19, 2010, 08:44:00 PM
QUOTE(farntheplaya @ Jan 19 2010, 10:39 PM)
thats NOT how you would check. the BEST way to check is to see if your SECDATA is clean.
that can be done with using XVAL
what you are recommending wouldnt work in this specific case
-a console thats been offline forever and has been playing all wave 4/5 games.
therefore he HAS the latest updates and his console is storing this data BUT because he hasnt been online microsoft has no info that his console is modded. therefore the repair would go through
I wasn't referring to a specific case mentioned before sorry if there was any confusion, but you and I know many many people unplugged their xboxs when the ban wave started thinking they were safe. People will then flash to the lt fw thinking they are ok and hop online and get banned. I just don't want a billion claims saying the fw is detectable when it isn't. Your way would be best, I was just suggesting another way to check if you could be flagged or not via the request repair check......
Post by: skyworxx2000 on January 19, 2010, 08:47:00 PM
So I guess the only safe way to create backups is having a second lite-on with the ix1.6 0800 firmware on it?
Post by: LockmanSal on January 19, 2010, 08:47:00 PM
I mean come on , bet they released it cause they didn't get banned while testing but that doesn't mean that Microsoft hasn't detected those 360's with LT unless they have someone inside the room that controls Live and tells C4E that it no longer gets detected. for all we know they could have upgraded the Live system to instantly ban the modifications that they know off but just alert them about new modifications and they to decide when to ban them.
This post has been edited by LockmanSal: Jan 20 2010, 04:50 AM
Post by: xc1234 on January 19, 2010, 08:49:00 PM
Post by: federicozose on January 19, 2010, 08:54:00 PM
Post by: Narbo on January 19, 2010, 08:55:00 PM
Post by: xmod4u on January 19, 2010, 08:56:00 PM
QUOTE
Bet Microsoft is laughing their asses off being able to detect C4E and the testers Xbox360's with IXtreme LT months ago , now is for them to wait for a reasonable amount of red flags to show up in their screen and activate the next ban hammer.
I mean come on , bet they released it cause they didn't get banned while testing but that doesn't mean that Microsoft hasn't detected those 360's with LT unless they have someone inside the room that controls Live and tells C4E that it no longer gets detected. for all we know they could have upgraded the Live system to instantly ban the modifications that they know off but just alert them about new modifications and they to decide when to ban them.
I mean come on , bet they released it cause they didn't get banned while testing but that doesn't mean that Microsoft hasn't detected those 360's with LT unless they have someone inside the room that controls Live and tells C4E that it no longer gets detected. for all we know they could have upgraded the Live system to instantly ban the modifications that they know off but just alert them about new modifications and they to decide when to ban them.
QUOTE
All future console system updates (not game updates) must be applied with caution
nuff said... lol
good luck everyone
This post has been edited by xmod4u: Jan 20 2010, 04:59 AM
Post by: fuzzyplums on January 19, 2010, 08:56:00 PM
and 4 the reat a 
at u lol now donate.u all wanted it 
Post by: 69218 on January 19, 2010, 08:57:00 PM
QUOTE(federicozose @ Jan 20 2010, 04:54 AM)
and if for some reason i lose the backup information of the drive, how can i retrive it from the drive???
using this:
http://forums.xbox-s...o...8256&st=525
or this:
http://www.team-xecu...ead.php?t=52557
Post by: Mik3h on January 19, 2010, 08:57:00 PM
QUOTE(fffttt @ Jan 20 2010, 03:15 AM)
I have not seen a official statement of "only for liteon". so I guess there will still be firmwares for other drivers. and if it is out, i think it will be my last time to update firmware for my old samsung. Since it is waveless and I'm tired to do so.
# #iXtreme LT for all drives, in dev/testing and going well. No ETA! 10:16 AM Nov 19th, 2009 from tircd
Post by: bananaboi on January 19, 2010, 09:01:00 PM
I personally have a benq, but one of my friends has a lite-on 74850c..
Do you still need the probe and ck3 to flash the lite-on 74850c?
Post by: zeromx on January 19, 2010, 09:12:00 PM
Post by: semente on January 19, 2010, 09:12:00 PM
For all of you who are complaining about the possibility of getting banned from Live! the solution is simple: don't mod!! It's a risk you take - don't blame the developers who spent their time bringing you yet another release. You don't get to criticize until you release a better fw yourself (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
SementE
This post has been edited by semente: Jan 20 2010, 05:14 AM
Post by: fuzzyplums on January 19, 2010, 09:16:00 PM
Post by: Chaosplt on January 19, 2010, 09:28:00 PM
Post by: Mik3h on January 19, 2010, 09:28:00 PM
QUOTE(fuzzyplums @ Jan 20 2010, 04:16 AM)
to be honest i got a box never bin open but drive tray look like a lite on well wen i crack it better be lol.now is it done the old way or diff..wot i mean is with the probe and that gee been out on the town and cum into this wow.so when i sober i do my box lol (IMG:style_emoticons/default/love.gif)
My head hurts now.
Post by: majik655 on January 19, 2010, 09:29:00 PM
QUOTE(fuzzyplums @ Jan 19 2010, 08:16 PM)
to be honest i got a box never bin open but drive tray look like a lite on well wen i crack it better be lol.now is it done the old way or diff..wot i mean is with the probe and that gee been out on the town and cum into this wow.so when i sober i do my box lol
Wow I don't know if I even understand you correctly but even drunk people write better than that (english being a second language AND being drunk now that is probably more like it
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Of course use this newest Jungle Flasher and 1.6 LT firmware if needed.
Post by: Skevus on January 19, 2010, 09:29:00 PM
QUOTE(Charbless @ Jan 20 2010, 03:44 AM)
I like that in the pack the original lite-on firmwares have been included.
Why are Team Xecuter getting credit what have they offered us this generation apart from rip off prices.
Thanks c4e and team jungle
They Sponsored C4E with all the 360 that got baned during the tests of their LT firmware. It's 20-25 Virgin Arcade Xboxes that got baned during their tests.....
Post by: majik655 on January 19, 2010, 09:30:00 PM
QUOTE(Mik3h @ Jan 19 2010, 08:28 PM)
My head hurts now.
HAHA lol Cool it wasn't just me
Post by: halleluia on January 19, 2010, 09:52:00 PM
Post by: tomgreen99200 on January 19, 2010, 09:53:00 PM
Post by: Skevus on January 19, 2010, 09:57:00 PM
QUOTE(garlon @ Jan 20 2010, 03:55 AM)
Lol few hours ago i flashed e new box with 1.61 never connected to live... Is it safe to flash with LT now and go online?
It deppends on your Kernell and if you started any games on it since you flashed with IX1.61, If your kernell is to new you could be flagged even if you only started originals with IX1.61. However if you are not sure you have nothing to loose testing iXtreme LT. Just make sure your backups are splitvided SS V2 and everything else is right because LT will start anything, So you need to test every game image with ABGX to be sure. If you get baned you will be able to start any backups woth LT so LT is a nice firmware what ever happends.
However if uou have a really early Kernell and you aren't sure if you are flagged it could be a god idea to JTAG your 360 so you could start games of your hardrive or even your USB hardrive. There will obviously come a XBMC for the 360 anytime so IF your Kernell is early it could be a better idea to JTAG your 360 instead of iXtreme LT. Because if you JTAGED your 360 you could get your CPU Key or even Unban your 360 in the future.
However if you just iXtremed your 360 with IX 1.61 and didn't use it online or offline you should be safe with LT. I Ixtremed my 360 in July 2009 however I didn't use my 360 since then and I am going to Ixtreme LT my 360 as soon that I have some time. If you have the latest Kernell you have nothing to lose with Ixtreme LT. I heard the 2 Latest kernell Revisions are able to flagg you offline if you didn't use iXtreme Lt from start. But it's nothing anybody is sure about. If you have the 2 latest kernells you have nothing to lose anyway. If you stick to Ixtreme 1.61 you will be baned for sure and iXtreme Lt is a better firmware even for a baned 360 since it take all the games no matter what wave it is or if the games are splitvided or not.....
Post by: Chaosplt on January 19, 2010, 10:00:00 PM
Post by: PRlME on January 19, 2010, 10:06:00 PM
Post by: Muzzakus on January 19, 2010, 10:07:00 PM
QUOTE(Chaosplt @ Jan 20 2010, 05:00 AM)
I hope that this LT firmware gets people banned so we can concentrate 100% on the homebrew, Actually i know it will get people banned because the past what was it 2 times it got people banned.. lolz
I'm a fan of homebrew too. Unfortunately the long term viability of 360 homebrew is still a questionmark.
There is an increasingly shrinking hardware base that can be exploited. If by some miracle an exploit is found for all revisions, only then will I be doing the happy dance.
I have 2 exploitable systems in mothballs - but my personal benefit does not translate to the scene at large.
Post by: dharrison on January 19, 2010, 10:07:00 PM
I, for one, cannot wait to flash it and go online and test it out. And, will definitely be donating to this cause.
Thanks again!
Post by: nafeasonto on January 19, 2010, 10:12:00 PM
I am assuming this will be for lite on only?
This post has been edited by nafeasonto: Jan 20 2010, 06:13 AM
Post by: masterchief351 on January 19, 2010, 10:16:00 PM
Post by: xhackshotmastax on January 19, 2010, 10:16:00 PM
Post by: coreyinoz on January 19, 2010, 10:21:00 PM
QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Jan 20 2010, 03:34 AM)
Glad I bough a new Arcade a few months ago in preparation for iXtreme LT.
+1 lol... kept it in the closet this whole time, which has been a little tough to explain to the wife.
Thanks to all those involved. I couldn't care less about the drama - just happy to see new releases!
Post by: audi_a8 on January 19, 2010, 10:25:00 PM
The main question is still: Disc images must also be splitvid and preferred SS v2
How do we get SS v2 in images, abgx does not convert it....
Post by: BottleB on January 19, 2010, 10:25:00 PM
QUOTE(fuzzyplums @ Jan 20 2010, 05:16 AM)
to be honest i got a box never bin open but drive tray look like a lite on well wen i crack it better be lol.now is it done the old way or diff..wot i mean is with the probe and that gee been out on the town and cum into this wow.so when i sober i do my box lol
Post by: fffttt on January 19, 2010, 10:26:00 PM
QUOTE(Mik3h @ Jan 20 2010, 11:57 AM)
# #iXtreme LT for all drives, in dev/testing and going well. No ETA! 10:16 AM Nov 19th, 2009 from tircd
that would be great if it's true.
Post by: pchop6t9 on January 19, 2010, 10:30:00 PM
Post by: mafiafan123 on January 19, 2010, 10:53:00 PM
QUOTE(Ultimatemale420 @ Jan 19 2010, 07:33 PM)
lol BENQ BENQ BENQ LOOOOL
I SURE HOPE BENQ IS NEXT!!!
Same boat (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Post by: sdeens2009 on January 19, 2010, 10:59:00 PM
Your right I noticed that as well and this new version v1.70 may NOT be patching the spoof data and inquiry bins correctly OR at the very least it is NOT being reported correctly; This is major a concern potentially and we need to get this answered from the JF guys fast before we try and spoof our LITEON 73850c drives into Hitachi 79FLs.
btw,
Is it really necessary anymore to manually spoof the "ORIGINAL" inquiry. bins from our LITEON-73850C drives if we intend to spoof them as Hitachi 79FL? Can we just use the Hiattchi 79FL DVD key and let JF do it automatically or must we still do it manually again? Do we really need the original INQUIRY.bin anymore and for the record, has MS ever checked for it. Has that been confirmed?
also FYI:
Just because you can JTAG a pre-8955 kernel console does NOT mean you can unban the unit in spite of having the CPU key. I think there is more to that story: its the "keyvault" that is being banned and NOT just the console ID.
I think you need two such unbanned consoles with their two decrypting CPU keys in advance to capture the private KEYVAULT data. What you have to do is swap or clone the decrypted KEYVAULTS from the one unbanned console into the other banned console's nand firmware (ie the 48 pin TSOP). Very few testers have two such exploitable early kernel consoles in the first place and thus its NOT a practical solution and I doubt anyone is going to share their decrypted private KEYVAULTS with you so you can become unbanned again on XBL. So unbanning, althought it is 100% possible (and rather easy to) but not practical unless you have two exploitable consoles inadvance with early 7xxx kernels. Correct me if I am wrong please
btw:
You can now play all the 360 games (all waves) and all the arcades off of large 2 terrabyte USB-SATA external 3.5" drives without freezing and arcade demos converetd into full games easily. No need to have the backup or original game DVD in the tray anymore (this will save the laser for sure). This is juts like the old XBOX1 and Playstation2 days. Homebrew in 2010 has already surpassed ixtreme and LT, but its NOT 100% safe either to play on-line since they are now recently checking for the changes we made in the nand firmware's bootloader area..(i.e the homebrew nands: FREEBOOT and XBRreboot)
This post has been edited by sdeens2009: Jan 20 2010, 07:10 AM
Post by: UnnA^ on January 19, 2010, 11:17:00 PM
Quick question. I only have my original dumy.bin, key.bin etc. extract from my probe on my 7xxx series drive. When i merge my dummy.bin with LT, it copies all the information across except the calibration data. In jungle flsher it displays like this....
Spoofing Target
DVD Key copied to target
Inquiry string copied to Target
Identify string copied to Target
Serial data copied from Source to Target
No Calibration data in source
Is there no way to get my original calibration data from the files i have (dummy.bin, identify.bin, inquiry.bin and key.bin) on my 7xxx series drive or was it lost when i wrote IX1.6 to it? Or the probe on a 7xxx drive never was programmed to read that data so i don't have it?
Post by: Pacotera on January 19, 2010, 11:27:00 PM
maybe only fully dumping the fw to get this (cutting traces etc)
Post by: t0m on January 19, 2010, 11:37:00 PM
thanks team. waiting for the other drive models to do my own machine. quick question about xval: is it really a safe (100%) way to see if you are flagged? my machine has been offline since last june. its running hitachi 1.51, but its been updated to the recent wpa2 update via the hard drive from my other machine that broke last november, two days after the update came out. will xval guaranteed tell me if im flagged or is there any other way i can find out?
thanks again to everyone involved
Post by: PHiXiON666 on January 19, 2010, 11:46:00 PM
Post by: spavia on January 19, 2010, 11:50:00 PM
Post by: d4m4n on January 19, 2010, 11:59:00 PM
THis should stop the sudden laser deaths of LiteON drives hours or weeks after flashing.
Post by: Jimmydome on January 20, 2010, 12:01:00 AM
This post has been edited by Jimmydome: Jan 20 2010, 08:06 AM
Post by: AsTuRkInG on January 20, 2010, 12:02:00 AM
QUOTE(Mik3h @ Jan 20 2010, 04:57 AM)
# #iXtreme LT for all drives, in dev/testing and going well. No ETA! 10:16 AM Nov 19th, 2009 from tircd
any news about the other firms for the rest of the drives?
http://twitter.com/TeamJungle/status/5864410467
Post by: theo481 on January 20, 2010, 12:12:00 AM
Looking for some help.
I've flashed it, using the writeup JF did. I did the cut traces bla bla bla and what not
I got a successful flash, but I get an Open Tray no matter what I put into it..
I rechecked the repair solder points too..
anyone care to help?
gtalk theo481 @ gmail . com
Post by: ZakMcRofl on January 20, 2010, 12:15:00 AM
CODE
Size: 7835516928 bytes (SplitVid 2nd wave rounded up to ECC block size)
[...]
Size is too large for SplitVid, truncating...
Truncating "C:\halo3.iso" to 7835492352 Bytes... Done
Comparing L1 Video on L0 to L1 Video on L1...
SplitVid is valid
(it is obviously they are proper after fixing but I wonder if the non-truncated version would be LT safe)
Post by: Ubergeek2 on January 20, 2010, 12:18:00 AM
QUOTE(Chaosplt @ Jan 20 2010, 05:28 AM)
Thanks to geremia for cracking the demo release and gotten this for free to us. Thats the only reason its free because it was cracked and released online. Anyone who says otherwise is a fucking cunt. Anyways, I have homebrew now, no reason for me to use this firmware. LOL.. Homebrew ftw!
Let's be honest you are a bit of a moron.
This post has been edited by Ubergeek2: Jan 20 2010, 08:30 AM
Post by: UnnA^ on January 20, 2010, 12:20:00 AM
QUOTE(d4m4n @ Jan 20 2010, 02:59 PM)
If you want the calibration data you need to read all LiteOn models the new way just like 8xxx V2 and 9xxx models.
THis should stop the sudden laser deaths of LiteON drives hours or weeks after flashing.
Thats really hard to do when our 7xxx drives were modded 12 months ago when all we could get was a key extract....
I'm not sure the full dump would help because our drives already been erased/flashed.
This post has been edited by UnnA^: Jan 20 2010, 08:22 AM
Post by: Ubergeek2 on January 20, 2010, 12:21:00 AM
QUOTE(LockmanSal @ Jan 20 2010, 04:47 AM)
Bet Microsoft is laughing their asses off being able to detect C4E and the testers Xbox360's with IXtreme LT months ago , now is for them to wait for a reasonable amount of red flags to show up in their screen and activate the next ban hammer.
I mean come on , bet they released it cause they didn't get banned while testing but that doesn't mean that Microsoft hasn't detected those 360's with LT unless they have someone inside the room that controls Live and tells C4E that it no longer gets detected. for all we know they could have upgraded the Live system to instantly ban the modifications that they know off but just alert them about new modifications and they to decide when to ban them.
so you are a cock master yes ?
where the fuck do numpties like this crawl from lol (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: SNAAAKE on January 20, 2010, 12:24:00 AM
Ive been xbox live for months but never tried any wave4 games. only upto wave3. I will try tomorrow and report back.
This post has been edited by SNAAAKE: Jan 20 2010, 08:24 AM
Post by: Iriez on January 20, 2010, 12:24:00 AM
Funny how they had a beta of LT where no one else did though eh? Weird.Upgrading with a blaster is so smooth
Post by: BigSteel on January 20, 2010, 12:26:00 AM
QUOTE(Iriez @ Jan 20 2010, 12:24 AM)
Glad to see a free solution after all those sites were popping up (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Funny how they had a beta of LT where no one else did though eh? Weird.
Upgrading with a blaster is so smooth (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Hey Iriez, and idea if the other drives are being worked on/tested???
Post by: Ubergeek2 on January 20, 2010, 12:28:00 AM
QUOTE(Chaosplt @ Jan 20 2010, 05:28 AM)
Thanks to geremia for cracking the demo release and gotten this for free to us. Thats the only reason its free because it was cracked and released online. Anyone who says otherwise is a fucking cunt. Anyways, I have homebrew now, no reason for me to use this firmware. LOL.. Homebrew ftw!
lets explain how stupid you are:
1. this fw was always free. xecuter covered developmet costs long ago to make sure it stayed free. naturally you seem to be like someone who lives at home and thinks $5 is a lot of money. This kind of dev costs thousands. Fortunately it costs you zero. So you have this much right to talk shit: zero.
2. This isn't homebrew moron - this is direct piracy. You probably only just heard the word homebrew and thought you understood what it was. I first heard the word homebrew 18 yrs ago. let me guess - you weren't born then.
Big fat yawn ensues...
QUOTE(Iriez @ Jan 20 2010, 08:24 AM)
Glad to see a free solution after all those sites were popping up (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Funny how they had a beta of LT where no one else did though eh? Weird.
Upgrading with a blaster is so smooth (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
It was always in hand brother - you know im 100% (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
This post has been edited by Ubergeek2: Jan 20 2010, 08:36 AM
Post by: masterchief351 on January 20, 2010, 12:30:00 AM
Post by: Ubergeek2 on January 20, 2010, 12:33:00 AM
QUOTE(Charbless @ Jan 20 2010, 03:44 AM)
I like that in the pack the original lite-on firmwares have been included.
Why are Team Xecuter getting credit what have they offered us this generation apart from rip off prices.
Thanks c4e and team jungle
maybe, just maybe Team Xecuter after 10 years of experience gave someone a call and said - hey - lets take care of all your expenses so you never have to worry about covering your costs again anytime in the future so this work is always free at all times.
it wasn't credit dipshit - it was thanks.
I should add the only people who thought the quality hardware was rip off were cheap ass bitches like you. No one forces you to buy anything.
Clown shoes for sure.
This post has been edited by Ubergeek2: Jan 20 2010, 08:35 AM
Post by: SNAAAKE on January 20, 2010, 12:34:00 AM
QUOTE(evolution2147 @ Jan 19 2010, 09:50 PM)
hahahahahahahahaa
"ripped off" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
that post cant be serious..............
Post by: groni on January 20, 2010, 12:37:00 AM
Post by: tabsaid on January 20, 2010, 12:37:00 AM
Strange first boot though. Booted my Gears 2 back-up (100% verified in ABGX) and I got the dvd player screen like I flashed the wrong dvd key. Knew that had to be nans so I tried booting another back-up and no problem. Attempted same Gears back-up again and booted no problem. Just concerning since I didnt get a dirty disc error but seemed firmware messed up reading my drive key for a second or something. Anyone else?
This post has been edited by tabsaid: Jan 20 2010, 08:40 AM
Post by: T3XA5360R3B3L on January 20, 2010, 12:38:00 AM
swapped it out with the Hitachi 79FL that was spoofed to look like a BenQ.
so far it boots up all Wave 3/4/5 backups..
plugged in the internet cable to the console. Did a XBL test. It downloaded an update.. Rebooted, installed an update, signed into XBL with a silver account, logged in no problem.. Played CODMW2 online, no problems..
my other console is an Elite with a BenQ in it spoofed to look like the Hitachi 79FL that came with it..
I think I'll wait for the LT for BenQ, unless I get bored and take another spare Liteon 84 series and flash it with LT and spoof it to look like an Hitachi 79FL..
I've got 4 consoles... none of them are banned... probably because I had non-stealth firmware installed before the November update and ban wave..
so LT is ban proof.. we'll see.. hopefully this will work as advertised and M$ will just throw in the towel and stop trying... only thing I can see them doing is, installing Blu-Ray drives in the next wave of 360s and making it impossible to dump or flash any firmware at all... much like the PS3...
Post by: gizmodesigns on January 20, 2010, 12:38:00 AM
1.) Split vid, I have some old copies, will they boot on LT and under which condition?
2.) How to check with ABGX for the split vid? What is good and what is not good?
I only care that the game will run, I do not want to use X B O X live.
Post by: astrosaber3 on January 20, 2010, 12:52:00 AM
Had a Elite with Benq that RROD December 2008 (a bit over a year ago). I fixed it last week. This system had not seen the internet for over a year, I logged onto LIVE, and 5 seconds later - BANNED. No big deal.
I checked this console on the M$ site before connecting to LIVE to see if it could be repaired, and it would let me set up a repair. I checked my newer 360 to see if it could be repaired, and it came up with an error page. So I am assuming the ban flag on the RROD 360 was flagged on the colsole, NOT on M$ LIVE servers because it would let me set up a repair.
So M$ banned this 360, not from the Nov 2009 ban flag, but apparently from the 2008 ban flag.
So people complaining about getting banned after logging onto LIVE with new LT firmware, your 360 could have been flagged for a ban well over a year ago - not just the November 2009 ban.
Post by: LittleBH on January 20, 2010, 01:09:00 AM
QUOTE(sdeens2009 @ Jan 20 2010, 05:59 AM)
"Not to mention, it (Jungleflasher) doesn't show "Spoofed as:" :
Your right I noticed that as well and this new version v1.70 may NOT be patching the spoof data and inquiry bins correctly OR at the very least it is NOT being reported correctly; This is major a concern potentially and we need to get this answered from the JF guys fast before we try and spoof our LITEON 73850c drives into Hitachi 79FLs.
iXTreme LT DOES NOT SUPPORT Spoofing as other drives!
Read the Jungleflasher tutorial! - the warnings are there!
JF 1.70 spoofs ix fw fine - LT is just NOT SPOOFABLE - it was originally a function of iXtreme FW's - now removed to achieve ORIGINAL behaviour!
This post has been edited by LittleBH: Jan 20 2010, 09:17 AM
Post by: GDT on January 20, 2010, 01:09:00 AM
QUOTE(Skevus @ Jan 20 2010, 06:57 AM)
It deppends on your Kernell and if you started any games on it since you flashed with IX1.61, If your kernell is to new you could be flagged even if you only started originals with IX1.61. However if you are not sure you have nothing to loose testing iXtreme LT. Just make sure your backups are splitvided SS V2 and everything else is right because LT will start anything, So you need to test every game image with ABGX to be sure. If you get baned you will be able to start any backups woth LT so LT is a nice firmware what ever happends.
Post by: Ciocardel on January 20, 2010, 01:18:00 AM
Post by: punlet642 on January 20, 2010, 01:25:00 AM
QUOTE(gizmodesigns @ Jan 20 2010, 08:38 AM)
Here are some dumb questions but never the less here they are:
1.) Split vid, I have some old copies, will they boot on LT and under which condition?
2.) How to check with ABGX for the split vid? What is good and what is not good?
I only care that the game will run, I do not want to use X B O X live.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I am wondering the same thing
So will there be a new version of ABGX?
Post by: jippyuk on January 20, 2010, 01:37:00 AM
Will hopefully be getting myself a new xbox soon to try this bad boy out. Quite excited
Post by: ojrman on January 20, 2010, 01:41:00 AM
well with jungle flasher i was just going to load orig lite on fw as source, fw pops up stock etc with key 55AA55AA
anyway, i check the advanced view and just noticed tabs, inquiry, identify, drive serial..
i was just going to flash with information form orig bin and manually enter my drive key since i know it and flash on another pc, but I now see there is more to do... don't be lazy and just use the original fw's that come packed with dl b/c you will be entering in wrong serial data this serial info etc. check by clicking on drive serial tab and doublclick window...
Cover / D609CG921xxxxxxxx
PCB / S4P951500
/00077xxx
HW Ver. / A0Ax
Laser / 9E13
/ xxxx
/ 16D6
/ 14XX
this is where i stopped, and noticed i almost flashed wrong serial data b/c i loaded up orig lite-on fw from rls being lazy and on other pc..
(this shouldn't affect me anyways as this is a jtagged and offline only, I like this fw for the fact it should load everything and still play so that's why I'm using it), I got another console for live that too will have LT soon never been online, still has dash 7363 dash so I am going to wire up lpt and dump nand on that console retrieve key and if i am to ever get banned on that box, shouldn't with lt but should it!! , lol ... I could just use box1 kv/info ect and swap with box 2.. and ladeda
anyway off topic
as i almost did this I am taking the time to post as someone else might see original fw folder and use that as there source b/c its the ORIG(wrong) don't do this, many noobs prolly will, i'm not a noob and I almost did it, I just overlooked it b/c i was LAZYYY and creating fw on remote pc soo... if you do do it this way make sure you follow instructions and enter your serial info etc from YOUR FW.. just b/c there is a folder and it says ORIGINAL, its not YOUR original..
I am tired and know there a lot of mistakes in my post grammar wise so eat it! ha
hope this prevents at lease 1 noob from making a mistake that i almost made...ha then my time wasted writing this will be pput to some use... dont know if the post made by people who lost there bad serial information or w/e i rmemeber reading someone having a problem, i dont know if this has anything to do with that but yeah... idk goodnite ladies
more on post topic *(thanks to all involved!! LOVE YA!! not really but yeah!, no one else said it so i guess i mine as well have.. hahahha ... **bastards could have rlsed it during day then i would be awake and aware....BAStards!!!( and if you dont see the sarcasm there, well im kidding... geez later
)
Post by: Martinchris23 on January 20, 2010, 01:48:00 AM
QUOTE(punlet642 @ Jan 20 2010, 08:25 AM)
I am wondering the same thing
So will there be a new version of ABGX?
You don't need to check for SplitVid - just rip using XBC. It's been default since v2.6. Run any backups through Schtrom to check it's a SplitVid image if you don't want to re-rip.
This post has been edited by Martinchris23: Jan 20 2010, 10:04 AM
Post by: pakigno on January 20, 2010, 02:01:00 AM
Post by: Jimmydome on January 20, 2010, 02:17:00 AM
This post has been edited by Jimmydome: Jan 20 2010, 10:46 AM
Post by: tpepsiman on January 20, 2010, 02:33:00 AM
& thank you TJ for new jungleflasher you's rock too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
one thing tho any one know a non solder way for new liteons
people don't like the idea of solding stuff into there drives. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
This post has been edited by tpepsiman: Jan 20 2010, 10:57 AM
Post by: teknofranko on January 20, 2010, 02:43:00 AM
I have a liteon flashed with 1.51, then with 1.6...how can i get calibration data if they are not in my dummy?
Is there any way to inject them in LT?
Thank's in advance.
Post by: Jimmydome on January 20, 2010, 02:51:00 AM
QUOTE(teknofranko @ Jan 20 2010, 04:43 AM)
Excuse me, in advance, for my question if it is supposed to be stupid...
I have a liteon flashed with 1.51, then with 1.6...how can i get calibration data if they are not in my dummy?
Is there any way to inject them in LT?
Thank's in advance.
Nope, back then they didnt know about the calibration data (supposedly) so it wasnt extracted. You been running FW with no calibration data, thats why liteOns would fail and stop reading discs for so many people, now they want to include it, but the method for dumping full liteOn FW includes some hard modding.
Post by: gizmodesigns on January 20, 2010, 03:00:00 AM
QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Jan 20 2010, 09:48 AM)
You don't need to check for SplitVid - just rip using XBC. It's been default since v2.6. Run any backups through Shtrom to check it's a SplitVid image if you don't want to re-rip.
So will lt boot incorrect split vid or not?
Post by: LittleBH on January 20, 2010, 03:06:00 AM
QUOTE(gizmodesigns @ Jan 20 2010, 10:00 AM)
So will lt boot incorrect split vid or not?
Yes it will boot it! - HENCE there is a need to check it is splitvid - to avoid being flagged for ban!
Post by: teknofranko on January 20, 2010, 03:19:00 AM
QUOTE(Jimmydome @ Jan 20 2010, 10:51 AM)
Nope, back then they didnt know about the calibration data (supposedly) so it wasnt extracted. You been running FW with no calibration data, thats why liteOns would fail and stop reading discs for so many people, now they want to include it, but the method for dumping full liteOn FW includes some hard modding.
So can't i use the original files supplied with LT pack anyway?...why are those files in the pack?
Post by: gizmodesigns on January 20, 2010, 03:25:00 AM
Ok, just to clear out;
- i do not have the original (stock) FW fro the 7xxx series of Lite on - the first flash was from a 3rd person!
others where made by me
(currently there is 1.61 liteon)
- will I be able to flash it with LT? (a word from calibration data missing form the ixtreme)with only 1.61 dummy file?
thx in advance
Post by: Secret-Service on January 20, 2010, 03:26:00 AM
http://guf4you.dk/share/download/file.php?id=12
http://guf4you.dk/share/download/file.php?id=13
http://guf4you.dk/share/download/file.php?id=14
http://guf4you.dk/share/download/file.php?id=15
http://guf4you.dk/share/download/file.php?id=16
http://guf4you.dk/share/download/file.php?id=17
http://guf4you.dk/share/download/file.php?id=18
http://guf4you.dk/share/download/file.php?id=19
http://guf4you.dk/share/download/file.php?id=20
http://guf4you.dk/share/download/file.php?id=21
http://guf4you.dk/share/download/file.php?id=22
http://guf4you.dk/share/download/file.php?id=23
http://guf4you.dk/share/download/file.php?id=24
http://guf4you.dk/share/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=15
There are no major changes in code, much of it is dvd key has changed to 7. And encryption removed. The rest of the changes I do not know exactly what is right now.
Post by: Jimmydome on January 20, 2010, 03:27:00 AM
QUOTE(teknofranko @ Jan 20 2010, 05:19 AM)
So can't i use the original files supplied with LT pack anyway?...why are those files in the pack?
yeah you can, but you would have to flash stock FW they provide to drive spoofing your dummy.bin details to it, then re-dump the drive with the cut pin or LT switch method for full proper FW dump, rediculous i know. But right now only way to get calibration data included in LT flash, no way to just extract calibration data out of the original FW they provide.
Post by: BlackBurN on January 20, 2010, 03:32:00 AM
its opitional data, only to prevent the laser problem ?!
Post by: phoenixdigital on January 20, 2010, 03:34:00 AM
QUOTE(scorpionrecords @ Jan 20 2010, 02:20 AM)
I GOT RIPPED OFF I GOT BANNED FROM XBOX LIVE!!!!!!!!!!!! I WAS JUST ABOUT TO PLAY STREET FIGHTER IV ON XBOX LIVE AND I GOT BANNED! I UPDATED MY LITEON 83850C
IT DOESN'T WORK!!!!!!! PISSED OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY BOTHER IT DOESN'T WORK!!! I WILL POST A VIDEO OF MY BANNED XBOX.... WATCH HOLD ON....
You should ask for your money back for the FREE firmware you got.
To all those whinging... if you don't want to get banned don't change your firmware... It's pretty simple... if you do get banned then it's the chance you took.
And to all those with non Liteon drives waiting for this release on your drive. It will arrive when it arrives stop whinging about that too.
BTW I have a hitachi and will install the new firmware when it comes... if I get banned so be it..
The whinging and complaining and anger on these forums is so freaking retarded. If you want to have something faster or better get off your asses and stop playing games and learn how to build firmwares yourself. If you cant be bothered doing that or your too stupid then STFU.
Post by: slimgrip on January 20, 2010, 03:38:00 AM
A big STFU to all the bullshitters
Post by: walterg74 on January 20, 2010, 03:40:00 AM
QUOTE(Chaosplt @ Jan 20 2010, 03:00 AM)
I hope that this LT firmware gets people banned so we can concentrate 100% on the homebrew, Actually i know it will get people banned because the past what was it 2 times it got people banned.. lolz
Yeah! Wow! HOMEBREW!!! LEt's concentrate on getting the box to play all those crappy emulators and s*it, that you can already play on your pc with no hassle! So cool!!!
Honestly, why ppl get so revved up on crap like that, I'll never undestand really lame....
(Of course it is really god for the people that actually hack this, being that's what they like to do, and it's a real achievement to do it, but for the others? Lamest thing ever....)
Post by: Jimmydome on January 20, 2010, 03:41:00 AM
QUOTE(BlackBurN @ Jan 20 2010, 05:32 AM)
so, this calibration data have no reference with playing online right ?!
its opitional data, only to prevent the laser problem ?!
Yeah it doesnt say anywhere that it matter except your drive could stop reading discs. And once you flash LT FW on your drive the only way to flash again is to do the cut pin /LT switch hard mod, so adding it later when a easier option is available isnt an option cause essentially LT locks your drive, no matter what version you have according to Jungleflasher new guide. So if you are going to do the cut pin full dump eventually you might as well do it right the first time, cause if you cant do the cut pin mod, if your drive stops reading discs, it will be useless to you.
Post by: hetster on January 20, 2010, 03:51:00 AM
as for calibration data i think the more its talked about and tested the better the response will be for those who dont have the dump and only have dummy files from the older evisions..i personaly am gunna hex edit the LT so the data is blank.
Post by: Sl4uGh7eR on January 20, 2010, 03:55:00 AM
First of all, ABGX have option to fix/check SS v2 and SplitVid
SSv2 = AutoFix tab, Trust SS v2 angles option must be disabled
SplitVid = Misc tab, SplitVid option - Add it if it doesn't exist or isn't valid.
For Calibration data i checked 3 firmwares i dumped from 83850C V2 drives and probably i'm blind but i don't see any difference there.
Why do all write here that u need to spoof your dummy.bin to org file from pack, then flash, then read full firmware by cutting traces etc?
For me saving spoofed dummy to orginal fw then loading it as source, and spoof again but to LT fw would be enough to get calibration data in LT.
I will do tests today on few drives to see if it works. Wish me luck.
Btw. Great thanks for all involved.
Post by: Sany92 on January 20, 2010, 03:59:00 AM
Post by: gizmodesigns on January 20, 2010, 04:00:00 AM
QUOTE(Jimmydome @ Jan 20 2010, 11:41 AM)
Yeah it doesnt say anywhere that it matter except your drive could stop reading discs. And once you flash LT FW on your drive the only way to flash again is to do the cut pin /LT switch hard mod, so adding it later when a easier option is available isnt an option cause essentially LT locks your drive, no matter what version you have according to Jungleflasher new guide. So if you are going to do the cut pin full dump eventually you might as well do it right the first time, cause if you cant do the cut pin mod, if your drive stops reading discs, it will be useless to you.
As I understand the new Jungleflasher...
You can not extract dummy file from the LT flashed drive, but you can still use the one's from the previous flashes.(but no calibration data) from your PC archive.
Can someone confirm that?!
Post by: hetster on January 20, 2010, 04:03:00 AM
QUOTE(Sl4uGh7eR @ Jan 20 2010, 10:55 AM)
Why do all write here that u need to spoof your dummy.bin to org file from pack, then flash, then read full firmware by cutting traces etc?
For me saving spoofed dummy to orginal fw then loading it as source, and spoof again but to LT fw would be enough to get calibration data in LT.
I will do tests today on few drives to see if it works. Wish me luck.
Btw. Great thanks for all involved.
the ONLY place that has calobration for your drive is an original dump..once you use a dummy bin you lose the data..its the same as the drive key..if you flash without the key its gone forever. this applies for the calibration data..unless you use a dump from the drive before any flashing then the calibration data is the data from the dummy file which is why they will all look the same..
Post by: gizmodesigns on January 20, 2010, 04:10:00 AM
I do not have the original dump ti was not preformed by me.
Post by: Jimmydome on January 20, 2010, 04:16:00 AM
QUOTE(Sl4uGh7eR @ Jan 20 2010, 05:55 AM)
HI, i'm a little new in posting here, but i read that forum since years.
First of all, ABGX have option to fix/check SS v2 and SplitVid
SSv2 = AutoFix tab, Trust SS v2 angles option must be disabled
SplitVid = Misc tab, SplitVid option - Add it if it doesn't exist or isn't valid.
For Calibration data i checked 3 firmwares i dumped from 83850C V2 drives and probably i'm blind but i don't see any difference there.
Why do all write here that u need to spoof your dummy.bin to org file from pack, then flash, then read full firmware by cutting traces etc?
For me saving spoofed dummy to orginal fw then loading it as source, and spoof again but to LT fw would be enough to get calibration data in LT.
I will do tests today on few drives to see if it works. Wish me luck.
Btw. Great thanks for all involved.
Your right, I just relized this myself, checked it out and sure enough it works, now i come back over and look in this thread and you said it, nice!
Post by: Redsquirrel on January 20, 2010, 04:17:00 AM
so i was planning to skip this process...
Post by: nafeasonto on January 20, 2010, 04:32:00 AM
Post by: RedFarmer on January 20, 2010, 04:41:00 AM
QUOTE(nafeasonto @ Jan 20 2010, 12:32 PM)
Anyone know if this is coming out for the other drives?
http://twitter.com/TeamJungle/status/5864410467
Post by: [AD] on January 20, 2010, 04:42:00 AM
If so why does it say iXtreme LT in firmware type instead of Stock.
Wouldnt M$ be able to see this?
Just a thought
Post by: wiebel on January 20, 2010, 04:49:00 AM
However one thing isn't really obvious to me, when you're missing this laser calibration data, could that mean a ban? Or could it just mean you're liteon might stop reading discs after a while?
Post by: audi_a8 on January 20, 2010, 04:51:00 AM
QUOTE(RedFarmer @ Jan 20 2010, 12:41 PM)
http://twitter.com/TeamJungle/status/5864410467
yeah, the liteon fw is the hottest now so they will probably do it in the descending order by dvd drives, today the Liteon, next week the Benq and Samsung and maybe after a while the Hitachi drives.
Post by: kestrel699 on January 20, 2010, 04:56:00 AM
i opened the dummy in jf and spoofed to the lt fw the message about calibration data came up i ignored it and saved the fw as hacked.bin then i simply used dosflash 16 to erase and write lt
is this safe for live it plays backups fine
Post by: fitsman on January 20, 2010, 05:06:00 AM
How i can take the key from an liteon74850c with ixtreme lt on it?
Is there any other way than "mra hack" that it doesn't need to hurt the xbox360 dvd-rom motherboard.
A LOT OF THANKS.
Post by: saleem_hacks_360s on January 20, 2010, 05:09:00 AM
QUOTE(kestrel699 @ Jan 20 2010, 11:56 AM)
hi all ive just updated my liteon 7000 from 1.61 to lite touch
i opened the dummy in jf and spoofed to the lt fw the message about calibration data came up i ignored it and saved the fw as hacked.bin then i simply used dosflash 16 to erase and write lt
is this safe for live it plays backups fine
i opened the dummy in jf and spoofed to the lt fw the message about calibration data came up i ignored it and saved the fw as hacked.bin then i simply used dosflash 16 to erase and write lt
is this safe for live it plays backups fine
no it aint safe on live,you will get banned,all the info from when you had 1.61 and was using backups was logged,that is with ms now and your flagged for ban.you should have just stayed with 1.61 as you wont benefit from the flash.mind you saying that if you had strict wave compliance at least you dont have to worry about wave6.
if you bothered to read teamjungle twitter it states that you should only use unflashed virgin console to be 100% safe.well for me to say you are safe would be proposterous,you are not safe.noone is its just you took your chances from 100% down to about 1% as ms will ban you when they feel like it,the ban hammer might not be on at the mo but,when it is you will feel it.
Post by: Spark on January 20, 2010, 05:13:00 AM
QUOTE(audi_a8 @ Jan 20 2010, 12:51 PM)
yeah, the liteon fw is the hottest now so they will probably do it in the descending order by dvd drives, today the Liteon, next week the Benq and Samsung and maybe after a while the Hitachi drives.
I would like to say that they have done the Liteon first for any reason other than to show off but I would be lying.
This is completely useless to almost all but those willing to buy a new console but thank you anyway.
Post by: kestrel699 on January 20, 2010, 05:14:00 AM
another question with a virgin 360 would it be suitable to use the old method of dumping the key then doing what i just did as i understand lt requires a full dump so you can get the calibration data?
thanks
Post by: dromiderry on January 20, 2010, 05:17:00 AM
how do i get rid of that irratating squeaky voiced bunch of twats singing badly? that is killing my happiness.
anyway thatnks to C4E and team jungle!! great work.
Post by: Muzzakus on January 20, 2010, 05:24:00 AM
You want it enabled so that it doesnt alter back to mirror SSv1 angle.
Anyone know if angle 359 need to be fixed?
QUOTE(Sl4uGh7eR @ Jan 20 2010, 10:55 AM)
HI, i'm a little new in posting here, but i read that forum since years.
First of all, ABGX have option to fix/check SS v2 and SplitVid
SSv2 = AutoFix tab, Trust SS v2 angles option must be disabled
SplitVid = Misc tab, SplitVid option - Add it if it doesn't exist or isn't valid.
For Calibration data i checked 3 firmwares i dumped from 83850C V2 drives and probably i'm blind but i don't see any difference there.
Why do all write here that u need to spoof your dummy.bin to org file from pack, then flash, then read full firmware by cutting traces etc?
For me saving spoofed dummy to orginal fw then loading it as source, and spoof again but to LT fw would be enough to get calibration data in LT.
I will do tests today on few drives to see if it works. Wish me luck.
Btw. Great thanks for all involved.
Post by: DrexeL_UK on January 20, 2010, 05:30:00 AM
QUOTE(walterg74 @ Jan 20 2010, 10:40 AM)
Yeah! Wow! HOMEBREW!!! LEt's concentrate on getting the box to play all those crappy emulators and s*it, that you can already play on your pc with no hassle! So cool!!!
Honestly, why ppl get so revved up on crap like that, I'll never undestand really lame....
(Of course it is really god for the people that actually hack this, being that's what they like to do, and it's a real achievement to do it, but for the others? Lamest thing ever....)
It's not just about the Emus though. I love my JATG'd 360 because it has enabled me to install a 1tb drive and boot games without discs. No more burning, just extract the game to my PC and FTP it over to the 360
Post by: halleluia on January 20, 2010, 05:56:00 AM
What does this mean?
Post by: g.sonic on January 20, 2010, 05:56:00 AM
Post by: ADAWG69 on January 20, 2010, 05:57:00 AM
QUOTE(DrexeL_UK @ Jan 20 2010, 07:30 AM)
Good to see this 'officially' released
It's not just about the Emus though. I love my JATG'd 360 because it has enabled me to install a 1tb drive and boot games without discs. No more burning, just extract the game to my PC and FTP it over to the 360
Exactly! I look forward to the day where I can stream music, movies and pictures from my pc to my 360. Internet browsing for things like youtube, justin.tv and whatever else. There is so many other things that will be coming besides emulators that make jtagging an xbox worth it.
Post by: Obveron on January 20, 2010, 06:01:00 AM
QUOTE(Xbox-Scene @ Jan 20 2010, 02:26 AM)
It is also advisable to apply all system updates before flashing with LT. All future console system updates (not game updates) must be applied with caution.
So to be clear, if you're still on an old 360 kernel, flash your lite-on back to stock (if applicable), then update to the latest 360 kernel, THEN flash LT.
Post by: xbox360sexual on January 20, 2010, 06:17:00 AM
QUOTE(halleluia @ Jan 20 2010, 12:56 PM)
long suspected 74 f/w's with 0x1a000 and 0x1b000 key sectors,
What does this mean?
What does this mean?
Some 74xx drives had keys in different locations, like mine did earlier (which I sent to the JF team).
Post by: TingedAce on January 20, 2010, 06:29:00 AM
Therefore it seems to me that the approach taken by c4e to identify all these new 'checks' would have been to examine the 8955 kernel and find the code that implements them. That is, a slightly more scientific approach rather than just keep patching things up until it didn't seem to get banned any more.
Given this and the apparent amount of testing it's had leads me to believe that all of the checks were indeed found in the kernel and each one addressed in the version of LT we have now. Therefore I'd be inclined to believe that it is safe on live with the current 8955 dash, but not necessarily with future system updates.
Hence the reason not to dive straight in to the next system update when it comes along. It's quite feasible that M$ held back on 1 or 2 checks this time round so they could add them next time, or add newly discovered checks. If this continues I forsee a new version of LT to be required with each system update :-s
Oh well could be worse
Post by: Jbasto on January 20, 2010, 06:43:00 AM
Okay i have a 74xx and when i load the Lite_CFW.bin to JF and load LT i get "Calibration data copied from Source to Target" That means im good to go ??
Cause im so confused now its to early in the morning to mess this up lol
Post by: feidhlim1986 on January 20, 2010, 07:07:00 AM
Quick question, before I go and buy a cheap arcade console to replace my banned one, do new consoles nearly always come with Lite-On drives? Also what Chipsets do new consoles have, Jasper?
Thanks Guys
Post by: zainday on January 20, 2010, 07:16:00 AM
QUOTE(Jbasto @ Jan 20 2010, 05:43 AM)
This might be a dumb question or not.
Okay i have a 74xx and when i load the Lite_CFW.bin to JF and load LT i get "Calibration data copied from Source to Target" That means im good to go ??
Cause im so confused now its to early in the morning to mess this up lol
I'm kinda in the same boat of confusion...haha....
If I load my dummy.bin and load LT and save.....JF log says the calibration data wasn't included in the source.
but if i load the dummy.bin and c4e stock 74xx .bin and save the file (fake orig.bin).
Reopen JF and load that saved (fake orig.bin) and LT and save ....JF log says calibration data copied from source to target.
Do all drives in 74xx series have different calibration data that are unique? or are they all the same from a particular series (ie 74xx)?
Post by: bullka on January 20, 2010, 07:18:00 AM
- That game backups are working with no problems.
- That you're not getting banned (at least today).
?
Coz all are thanking but no one has tried yet :s
Post by: daman22 on January 20, 2010, 07:22:00 AM
Post by: Mr.RedRing on January 20, 2010, 07:24:00 AM
QUOTE(audi_a8 @ Jan 20 2010, 06:51 AM)
yeah, the liteon fw is the hottest now so they will probably do it in the descending order by dvd drives, today the Liteon, next week the Benq and Samsung and maybe after a while the Hitachi drives.
Damn... Oh well, that's what I get for having a launch day Xenon system that still runs fine...and has a Hitachi drive...
Post by: ste030 on January 20, 2010, 07:28:00 AM
Post by: Ranger72 on January 20, 2010, 07:36:00 AM
QUOTE(feidhlim1986 @ Jan 20 2010, 09:07 AM)
Thanks Again to C4E & TeamJungle and anyone else involved.
Quick question, before I go and buy a cheap arcade console to replace my banned one, do new consoles nearly always come with Lite-On drives? Also what Chipsets do new consoles have, Jasper?
Thanks Guys
Yes they all comes with Liteon drives. BUT you will need to do some soldering and trace cutting to read the firmware from the new Liteon drives.
Post by: pablex on January 20, 2010, 07:36:00 AM
QUOTE(bullka @ Jan 20 2010, 07:18 AM)
Has anybody here (except Lite Touch developers and their testers) already installed new firmware in a brand new xbox and can confirm:
- That game backups are working with no problems.
- That you're not getting banned (at least today).
?
Coz all are thanking but no one has tried yet :s
Yes, I did it, let me tell you what I've done:
My console was flashed with 1.61, never went online or played pre release games, erased my HDD and internal memory, then I reflashed the drive with OFW, and went online and recover my gamer tag.
Sign out and sign in about 5 times, NO BAN.
Then I a flashed my lite on using the stock dummy bin extracted with USB Xtractor and LT.
Went Online again played bayonetta(copy, and abgxed) while I was online.
Then I did the same, sign in and out 3 times, NO BAN, I checked my warranty status still in green(I don't now if still a valid method to know if I am flagged)
At this time all seems to be fine.
Post by: drogy on January 20, 2010, 07:43:00 AM
QUOTE(zainday @ Jan 20 2010, 04:16 PM)
I'm kinda in the same boat of confusion...haha....
If I load my dummy.bin and load LT and save.....JF log says the calibration data wasn't included in the source.
but if i load the dummy.bin and c4e stock 74xx .bin and save the file (fake orig.bin).
Reopen JF and load that saved (fake orig.bin) and LT and save ....JF log says calibration data copied from source to target.
Do all drives in 74xx series have different calibration data that are unique? or are they all the same from a particular series (ie 74xx)?
i would assume they would have said something about this if it was a valid procedure in JF tutorial and they don't. Although, if you use common sense.. let's see:
- if you read the tutorial, to get a liteon back to stock you would have to spoof dummy.bin to the orig.bin provided for your rev and flash back to your drive. so now you would have a stock drive with the calibration data that's in the orig bin and - supposedly this would be ok.
- if you have a stock drive, the logical thing to do would be use the MRA method to get the whole FW from the drive, including calibration data, spoof to LT and flash - supposedly this would be ok.
BUT, the calibration data you would be getting from a returned to stock drive would be the same calibration data that's in the orig bin from the FW pack, not the calibration data that was originally on your drive.
SO, i would ASSUME that you could skip the whole back to stock, solder + cut traces + read and just do it the way you said: spoof dummy to orig, save, load saved fw, spoof to LT, write.
Post by: barelynotlegal on January 20, 2010, 07:47:00 AM
i have numerous of xbox's. i had a gold account and then it went silver. my latest console is modded with 1.61 andthe only live it has been on is to watch movies from pc. and one time i went on live to download a patch to watch avi's and ect
is this considered live or is everyone talking bout being on live playing games? when the internet is plugged in it said logged in, should i be worried?(have had the same hdd since my first elite.
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 20, 2010, 07:51:00 AM
QUOTE(barelynotlegal @ Jan 20 2010, 03:47 PM)
i;m sorry but i want to clarify one thing.
i have numerous of xbox's. i had a gold account and then it went silver. my latest console is modded with 1.61 andthe only live it has been on is to watch movies from pc. and one time i went on live to download a patch to watch avi's and ect
is this considered live or is everyone talking bout being on live playing games? when the internet is plugged in it said logged in, should i be worried?(have had the same hdd since my first elite.
If the ethernet cable is plugged in and you don't get a message about a problem with xbox live when you sign in, it IS xbox live, regardless if your streaming movies from your PC. If your xbox is connected to the internet then you are on xbox live when you sign in. There is no difference.
Post by: zainday on January 20, 2010, 07:57:00 AM
QUOTE(drogy @ Jan 20 2010, 06:43 AM)
i would assume they would have said something about this if it was a valid procedure in JF tutorial and they don't. Although, if you use common sense.. let's see:
- if you read the tutorial, to get a liteon back to stock you would have to spoof dummy.bin to the orig.bin provided for your rev and flash back to your drive. so now you would have a stock drive with the calibration data that's in the orig bin and - supposedly this would be ok.
- if you have a stock drive, the logical thing to do would be use the MRA method to get the whole FW from the drive, including calibration data, spoof to LT and flash - supposedly this would be ok.
BUT, the calibration data you would be getting from a returned to stock drive would be the same calibration data that's in the orig bin from the FW pack, not the calibration data that was originally on your drive.
SO, i would ASSUME that you could skip the whole back to stock, solder + cut traces + read and just do it the way you said: spoof dummy to orig, save, load saved fw, spoof to LT, write.
Agreed, same results , different paths that lead to the same location....lol....
but JF tutorial is still at 1.69 and the new LT / JF combo is 1.70.....
meaning, the calibration data is new (as far as I know) to LT and if the tutorial hasn't been updated , then we don't have much to go on.....
If someone knows if the calibration data is unique to each drive, or not....it would help me and alot of people understand things better....
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 20, 2010, 08:00:00 AM
QUOTE(zainday @ Jan 20 2010, 03:57 PM)
Agreed, same results , different paths that lead to the same location....lol....
but JF tutorial is still at 1.69 and the new LT / JF combo is 1.70.....
meaning, the calibration data is new (as far as I know) to LT and if the tutorial hasn't been updated , then we don't have much to go on.....
If someone knows if the calibration data is unique to each drive, or not....it would help me and alot of people understand things better....
There is a new guide for 1.70 but it does not mention the calibration data thing either.
I also want to know if the data is the same for all drive with the same firmware or is it unique like the barcode on the drive?
EDIT: Unless since they recommend a virgin xbox 360 for LT, maybe JF already handles the data with new untouched drives.
Post by: taylor3114 on January 20, 2010, 08:06:00 AM
Definitely big props!
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http://tiny.cc/IBkxa :*¨¨*: American Tribute/C4eva Ad for LT (TY C4!) :*¨¨*:
Post by: bullka on January 20, 2010, 08:07:00 AM
QUOTE(pablex @ Jan 20 2010, 04:36 PM)
Yes, I did it, let me tell you what I've done:
My console was flashed with 1.61, never went online or played pre release games, erased my HDD and internal memory, then I reflashed the drive with OFW, and went online and recover my gamer tag.
Sign out and sign in about 5 times, NO BAN.
Then I a flashed my lite on using the stock dummy bin extracted with USB Xtractor and LT.
Went Online again played bayonetta(copy, and abgxed) while I was online.
Then I did the same, sign in and out 3 times, NO BAN, I checked my warranty status still in green(I don't now if still a valid method to know if I am flagged)
At this time all seems to be fine.
Thanks for your answers. This is what I asked.
I have a brand new xbox (original/stock firmware) and I'm playing online now. As I'm xbox newbie.. I'm searching a full step-by-step procedure for dummies how to flash my console. Including steps with soldering etc.
I appreaciate what you wrote.. but If I want to do it by myself - your procedure doesn't give that much information how to do that
I'm familiar with soldering and have needed tools. Just need a procedure how to do everything from brand new box till LT Any ideas or links?
Post by: pablex on January 20, 2010, 08:16:00 AM
QUOTE(bullka @ Jan 20 2010, 08:07 AM)
Thanks for your answers. This is what I asked.
I have a brand new xbox (original/stock firmware) and I'm playing online now. As I'm xbox newbie.. I'm searching a full step-by-step procedure for dummies how to flash my console. Including steps with soldering etc.
I appreaciate what you wrote.. but If I want to do it by myself - your procedure doesn't give that much information how to do that
I'm familiar with soldering and have needed tools. Just need a procedure how to do everything from brand new box till LT Any ideas or links?Ok, first check your inventory:
VIA 6421 Card, if you want to avoid issues
Torx 10, to open the XTS
And what model of lite on you have?
Post by: zainday on January 20, 2010, 08:19:00 AM
QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Jan 20 2010, 07:00 AM)
There is a new guide for 1.70 but it does not mention the calibration data thing either.
I also want to know if the data is the same for all drive with the same firmware or is it unique like the barcode on the drive?
EDIT: Unless since they recommend a virgin xbox 360 for LT, maybe JF already handles the data with new untouched drives.
Thanks for the heads up!
Checked yesterday and it was at 1.69......
Just now got the new 1.70 tutorial....
Thanks Again!
Now if we could just figure out this calibration data issue.....lol.....DOH!
Post by: Affar on January 20, 2010, 08:24:00 AM
Post by: aqswde123 on January 20, 2010, 08:26:00 AM
Post by: pablex on January 20, 2010, 08:30:00 AM
QUOTE(aqswde123 @ Jan 20 2010, 08:26 AM)
damn...i got my xbox flashed to lt...without the latest update...what do i do now....anyone tried updating with cd/pendrive after flashing?
What I did, was re stock with the OFW included in the LT kit, then go live do the update, but first is strongly recommended to erase hdd or internal memory and clear xts cache, just in case.
Then flash using LT
I did that and I am not banned yet
Post by: me2611 on January 20, 2010, 08:33:00 AM
QUOTE(bullka @ Jan 20 2010, 05:07 PM)
Thanks for your answers. This is what I asked.
I have a brand new xbox (original/stock firmware) and I'm playing online now. As I'm xbox newbie.. I'm searching a full step-by-step procedure for dummies how to flash my console. Including steps with soldering etc.
I appreaciate what you wrote.. but If I want to do it by myself - your procedure doesn't give that much information how to do that
I'm familiar with soldering and have needed tools. Just need a procedure how to do everything from brand new box till LT Any ideas or links?http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=699991
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=702263
http://jungleflasher.net/files/JungleFlasher.pdf
Post by: Modify_inc on January 20, 2010, 08:37:00 AM
QUOTE(pablex @ Jan 20 2010, 04:30 PM)
What I did, was re stock with the OFW included in the LT kit, then go live do the update, but first is strongly recommended to erase hdd or internal memory and clear xts cache, just in case.
Then flash using LT
I did that and I am not banned yet
I hoped you enter your drive specifcs for the ofw included in the pack before you went online.
Post by: Martinchris23 on January 20, 2010, 08:37:00 AM
QUOTE
' date='Jan 20 2010, 11:42 AM' post='4619874']
I thought this fw was supposed to be as close to the original as possible.
If so why does it say iXtreme LT in firmware type instead of Stock.
Wouldnt M$ be able to see this?
Just a thought
I thought this fw was supposed to be as close to the original as possible.
If so why does it say iXtreme LT in firmware type instead of Stock.
Wouldnt M$ be able to see this?
Just a thought
It doesn't actually SAY 'iXtreme LT' anywhere in the firmware. JungleFlasher uses hash checking to determine the version based on a known table.
Post by: pablex on January 20, 2010, 08:45:00 AM
QUOTE(Modify_inc @ Jan 20 2010, 08:37 AM)
I hoped you enter your drive specifcs for the ofw included in the pack before you went online.
Absolutely
Post by: alwaysonjohn on January 20, 2010, 08:46:00 AM
Post by: Jimakos Sn on January 20, 2010, 08:52:00 AM
Post by: bullka on January 20, 2010, 08:57:00 AM
QUOTE(Jimakos Sn @ Jan 20 2010, 05:52 PM)
So, if LT makes liteons undumpable after flashing, MS won't read our firmwares anymore?
So.. MS will do following: if they won't be able to read firmware - they will assume that it's flashed and ban the xbox.
Correct?
Post by: Blargharg on January 20, 2010, 09:00:00 AM
Post by: pablex on January 20, 2010, 09:02:00 AM
QUOTE(bullka @ Jan 20 2010, 08:57 AM)
So.. MS will do following: if they won't be able to read firmware - they will assume that it's flashed and ban the xbox.
Correct?
Good point, I was assuming that yesterday I tried several times, to dump it with no results, this FW looks pretty like a OFW, this is great.
QUOTE(Blargharg @ Jan 20 2010, 09:00 AM)
A question about a virgin 70000 lo and calibration data - will I be able to extract it using the spear method or do i have to dump the orig firmware using the trace cut method to get that data?
Both methods work the same in 7xxxx
Post by: Blargharg on January 20, 2010, 09:07:00 AM
QUOTE(pablex @ Jan 20 2010, 05:02 PM)
Both methods work the same in 7xxxx
Cool, so is there any advantage at all to dumping the full firmware as opposed to just dummy.bin on a 70000 series?
Post by: slayer902 on January 20, 2010, 09:11:00 AM
QUOTE(Blargharg @ Jan 20 2010, 05:07 PM)
Cool, so is there any advantage at all to dumping the full firmware as opposed to just dummy.bin on a 70000 series?
if you're dumping dummy.bin, your drive has already been flashed ie there's no calibration data available to use so you're better off just doing that.
Post by: pablex on January 20, 2010, 09:19:00 AM
QUOTE(Blargharg @ Jan 20 2010, 09:07 AM)
Cool, so is there any advantage at all to dumping the full firmware as opposed to just dummy.bin on a 70000 series?
Well the spear method, extract 4 aditional files(inquiry, identify, serial, and key) as far as I know they are in some way included in the dummy.bin
the only advantage I see is those files are used for spoofing, and previous versions of JF require those files, but lately I don't see any usage
Post by: newboxflash on January 20, 2010, 09:25:00 AM
a Major reduction in site threads for 2010
except for where's the hitachi sammy and benq firmware
cheers all involved much appreciated
Post by: WarriorSan on January 20, 2010, 09:27:00 AM
QUOTE(t0m @ Jan 20 2010, 07:37 AM)
nice
thanks team. waiting for the other drive models to do my own machine. quick question about xval: is it really a safe (100%) way to see if you are flagged? my machine has been offline since last june. its running hitachi 1.51, but its been updated to the recent wpa2 update via the hard drive from my other machine that broke last november, two days after the update came out. will xval guaranteed tell me if im flagged or is there any other way i can find out?
thanks again to everyone involved
xval readme:
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At the same time this does not guarantee that the console with a "clean" X value has not been flagged on the server side.
Post by: kl1k on January 20, 2010, 09:39:00 AM
QUOTE(devilstrider @ Jan 20 2010, 04:08 AM)
Thought you could not flash a Lite On drive. I always though you had to get the key and replace the drive with another and spoof the firmware.
Sheesh dude. Have you been living in a cave?
Post by: 3thereal on January 20, 2010, 09:43:00 AM
Post by: mrpacijr on January 20, 2010, 09:56:00 AM
Post by: OggyUK on January 20, 2010, 09:58:00 AM
CODE
Thanks to TJ and C4!
Quick question. I only have my original dumy.bin, key.bin etc. extract from my probe on my 7xxx series drive. When i merge my dummy.bin with LT, it copies all the information across except the calibration data. In jungle flsher it displays like this....
Spoofing Target
DVD Key copied to target
Inquiry string copied to Target
Identify string copied to Target
Serial data copied from Source to Target
No Calibration data in source
Is there no way to get my original calibration data from the files i have (dummy.bin, identify.bin, inquiry.bin and key.bin) on my 7xxx series drive or was it lost when i wrote IX1.6 to it? Or the probe on a 7xxx drive never was programmed to read that data so i don't have it?
Effectively your "unique" calibration data is gone, for good, but, it was always "gone" even on your older iX
CODE
I dumped from a virgin liteon and got the same NO CALIBRATION DATA
maybe only fully dumping the fw to get this (cutting traces etc)
Correct, unless someone can find cdb's to obtain this data (using dvdkey / lo83info) this will remain the case.
CODE
Still the bottom line is this, if you dumped a 7xxxxx series liteOn's dummy.bin a million years ago, how will you get the calibration data from original FW for LT flash. when you load the dummy.bin it has it copy all data to target but you get the no calibration data found in source. but the original FW they provide has the calibration data but all the other data you need is in your dummy.bin or the files its composed of. there is no way to inject your other data in the spoof source option, so essentially if you dont have your original FW from your drive your S.O.L. on the calibration data, because if you use their original FW it has all other data not matching your drive. the only way would be to restore stock FW with the 1 they provide, spoof dummy.bin to stock FW, flash and re-dump the full FW using the cut pin or xecuter LT switch witch requires some hard modding and possible breaking of hardware, unless you buy the LT switch witch isnt even in stock at most shops (but i bet they rush to get it in stock now LOL). so unless they make a new jungleflasher that lets you load calibration data seperately. what makes this so bad is this is the 7xxxxx series liteOn that was supposed to be cake and now it just got hairy if you want to do a proper flash with cal data and all. also once you flash with LT, there is no way to dump any drive without cut pin or LT switch, its locked, all versions according to the new JF guide. one way or another your gonna be cutting pins or soldering or burning out drive with no cal data, and on top of that you will probly be banned in an update or 2 since they dont want you receiving system update with flashed drive, i feel real safe. yeah its never been 100% safe but by that warning they gave i dont feel 70% safe. any thoughts??? ----damn that was long was just going to write a line or two and got carried away. No matter what to get a proper dump all series liteOns require soldering and cutting for proper dump, that sucks if you ask me.
People are reading far too much into the 3c000 area, its not 100% vital - most drives survived on a years worth of iXtreme (yes some died, but there is no proof its relative to this data.
CODE
Excuse me, in advance, for my question if it is supposed to be stupid...
I have a liteon flashed with 1.51, then with 1.6...how can i get calibration data if they are not in my dummy?
Is there any way to inject them in LT?
Thank's in advance.
No, but if you read above / below, you'll see it *probably* isnt such a big deal.
CODE
I thought this fw was supposed to be as close to the original as possible.
If so why does it say iXtreme LT in firmware type instead of Stock.
Wouldnt M$ be able to see this?
Just a thought biggrin.gif
JF identifies it as LT, it doesnt have to be labelled LT directly.
CODE
long suspected 74 f/w's with 0x1a000 and 0x1b000 key sectors,
What does this mean?
Until 'MRA' method was released, it was assumed there 'were' more key sectors than currently known, but without decapping more drives, you would never know.
DVDKey always returned the correct key regardless of sector (corruption aside) - so it was never an issue, everyone got their key over UART.
Some people used DVDKey AND MRA method and had different keys, once the full fw's were analised, JF was then updated to identify correct key in OFW's with the above key sectors. So, with 1.70+ JF will display correct key for full fw (and DVDKey), which it didnt previously.
As shown below.
CODE
Some 74xx drives had keys in different locations, like mine did earlier (which I sent to the JF team).
CODE
This might be a dumb question or not.
Okay i have a 74xx and when i load the Lite_CFW.bin to JF and load LT i get "Calibration data copied from Source to Target" That means im good to go ??
Cause im so confused now its to early in the morning to mess this up lol
Chances are you copied over the exact data that was working on your drive previously. If it worked before, no reason it wont work this time smile.gif
CODE
i would assume they would have said something about this if it was a valid procedure in JF tutorial and they don't. Although, if you use common sense.. let's see:
- if you read the tutorial, to get a liteon back to stock you would have to spoof dummy.bin to the orig.bin provided for your rev and flash back to your drive. so now you would have a stock drive with the calibration data that's in the orig bin and - supposedly this would be ok.
- if you have a stock drive, the logical thing to do would be use the MRA method to get the whole FW from the drive, including calibration data, spoof to LT and flash - supposedly this would be ok.
BUT, the calibration data you would be getting from a returned to stock drive would be the same calibration data that's in the orig bin from the FW pack, not the calibration data that was originally on your drive.
SO, i would ASSUME that you could skip the whole back to stock, solder + cut traces + read and just do it the way you said: spoof dummy to orig, save, load saved fw, spoof to LT, write.
Correct, but again, too much is being read into it at this early stage.
CODE
There is a new guide for 1.70 but it does not mention the calibration data thing either.
I also want to know if the data is the same for all drive with the same firmware or is it unique like the barcode on the drive?
EDIT: Unless since they recommend a virgin xbox 360 for LT, maybe JF already handles the data with new untouched drives.
If you MRA a fresh drive, JF will copy this data over from source to target.
There isnt much mentioned about it as faily new, when information over its importance (not currently vital) It will be added to the tutorial, we're not going to spread mis-information until facts are clear.
CODE
Thanks for the heads up!
Checked yesterday and it was at 1.69......
Just now got the new 1.70 tutorial....
Thanks Again!
Now if we could just figure out this calibration data issue.....lol.....DOH! blink.gif
Patience is key.
CODE
So, if LT makes liteons undumpable after flashing, MS won't read our firmwares anymore? tongue.gif
Its a fair assumption they couldn't anyway.
CODE
A question about a virgin 70000 lo and calibration data - will I be able to extract it using the spear method or do i have to dump the orig firmware using the trace cut method to get that data?
MRA method only to obtain this data (for now)
Post by: RMF on January 20, 2010, 09:59:00 AM
QUOTE(mrpacijr @ Jan 20 2010, 05:56 PM)
I purchased an Xbox360 Arcade shortly after I got banned. I've been holding on to it for this day to get it updated. My question is, on my banned Xbox360 can I use the 20gb hard drive on my new Xbox360 Arcade? I'm pretty sure there is nothing attached, info-wise, to my hard drive but you never know...I guess at worst I could just buy a external memory card...?
Just format it first. That's what I did. I actually contacted MS support and asked them if there was a chance that my new 360 could be banned if I attached the HDD from my banned console and that's what they told me to do. So far so good.
Post by: pablex on January 20, 2010, 10:00:00 AM
QUOTE(mrpacijr @ Jan 20 2010, 09:56 AM)
I purchased an Xbox360 Arcade shortly after I got banned. I've been holding on to it for this day to get it updated. My question is, on my banned Xbox360 can I use the 20gb hard drive on my new Xbox360 Arcade? I'm pretty sure there is nothing attached, info-wise, to my hard drive but you never know...I guess at worst I could just buy a external memory card...?
I am using the hdd from my banned console in my Lite touched xts, no problems yet, what I did was to format it, also formated the MU in my jasper, no problems yet.
Post by: mrpacijr on January 20, 2010, 10:09:00 AM
QUOTE(RMF @ Jan 20 2010, 11:59 AM)
Just format it first. That's what I did. I actually contacted MS support and asked them if there was a chance that my new 360 could be banned if I attached the HDD from my banned console and that's what they told me to do. So far so good.
QUOTE(pablex @ Jan 20 2010, 12:00 PM)
I am using the hdd from my banned console in my Lite touched xts, no problems yet, what I did was to format it, also formated the MU in my jasper, no problems yet.
Sounds good, will do. Thanks fellas..
Post by: Retroplay on January 20, 2010, 10:13:00 AM
QUOTE(scorpionrecords @ Jan 20 2010, 03:20 AM)
I GOT RIPPED OFF I GOT BANNED FROM XBOX LIVE!!!!!!!!!!!! I WAS JUST ABOUT TO PLAY STREET FIGHTER IV ON XBOX LIVE AND I GOT BANNED! I UPDATED MY LITEON 83850C
IT DOESN'T WORK!!!!!!! PISSED OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY BOTHER IT DOESN'T WORK!!! I WILL POST A VIDEO OF MY BANNED XBOX.... WATCH HOLD ON....
IT DOESN'T WORK!!!!!!! PISSED OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY BOTHER IT DOESN'T WORK!!! I WILL POST A VIDEO OF MY BANNED XBOX.... WATCH HOLD ON....
Ho-hum....
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Warning! LT will not save you from being banned if console is already flagged by using a previous firmware or non-stealth discs
Post by: saleem_hacks_360s on January 20, 2010, 10:17:00 AM
QUOTE(pablex @ Jan 20 2010, 03:45 PM)
Absolutely
so you inputted your drives key,serial and does it need your drive laser calibration?you tell me cos i think you mean no!
Post by: SnoopDop on January 20, 2010, 10:23:00 AM
QUOTE(Matrix01 @ Jan 20 2010, 02:04 AM)
It's going to be funny to see people bashing c4eva throwing this on their drives and going online playing and having the time of their life yet they will never say sorry for bashing him or thanks.
Gratz on the new firmware guys thanks for the time that was put into it and best of all thanks for the free firmware.
it's going to be funny to see people downloading bad/flagged ISOs and getting banned then blaming c4eva and iXtreme LT and all the meta detection theories that follow
Post by: excaliburlives on January 20, 2010, 10:33:00 AM
Post by: chorizo1 on January 20, 2010, 10:39:00 AM
QUOTE(excaliburlives @ Jan 20 2010, 11:33 AM)
I have a refurb unit that i haven't touched. Been waiting for lt to be released. Should i update first or flash the unit first?
tells you in the FIRST POST, READ IT.
Post by: excaliburlives on January 20, 2010, 10:49:00 AM
Post by: benharvey1985 on January 20, 2010, 10:51:00 AM
Post by: axpk95 on January 20, 2010, 11:01:00 AM
i have jtag on my 360 and i dont want to update , so is it ok to just flash this anyway ?
thanx
Post by: miggidy on January 20, 2010, 11:03:00 AM
Post by: tomvanb06 on January 20, 2010, 11:08:00 AM
for a job well done! So do we still need the wave iso's for ABGX? And can I use a new gamedisc to perform the kernel update (Like MW2) before flashing LT, or do you need to update via Live?
Grtz,
Tom
Post by: JD45 on January 20, 2010, 11:18:00 AM
QUOTE(3thereal @ Jan 20 2010, 08:43 AM)
So, the last batch of firmware was claimed to be completely fullproof, how is this one any different? Did the community ever figure out an explanation on how Microsoft caught us the last time? It was not because of bad burns - after I got banned the first time, I went through and verified all of my game discs with the highest settings on ABGX360 and scrapped/reburned about 30 games and then never played a game before release date. Still got banned the next time around. Unless anyone knows definitive answers, I'll probably just stick with playing on my banned box (only thing I miss are indie games). Thanks for the efforts though, I'm sure there are plenty of people that will still use it!
The only people that ever thought they'd never EVER be caught are the people that didn't take the time to research. People have had their 360s flashed for YEARS and nothing happened. Did anyone really think microsoft would NEVER come up with some sort of detection method? I've never seen c4e claim the firmware would beat FUTURE checks but it did say they beat current checks and that was the truth until the update.
Post by: lenselijertje on January 20, 2010, 11:41:00 AM
alot of my old discs only have ssv1
Post by: condorstrike on January 20, 2010, 11:44:00 AM
Now all I need is a post AUG NXe update Jtag hack and i'll be set, cross fingers but not holding my breath.
thanks C4E and team.
Post by: pablex on January 20, 2010, 11:45:00 AM
QUOTE(saleem_hacks_360s @ Jan 20 2010, 10:17 AM)
so you inputted your drives key,serial and does it need your drive laser calibration?you tell me cos i think you mean no!
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Well to be honest I did not put a lot of attention to the calibration part yesterday when I did the flash, I am almost 95% sure that I use the dummy.bin stock extracted with usb xtractor which I think include all that crap,
I am at work right now and I want to rush home to check, but if not I going to reflash it again, making sure the calibration data is present.
Now, to all the people here how vital, important or however you wanna call it, is the calibration?
Since the iXtreme LT won't allow to be extracted with JF, it is possible to use the USB Xtractor?
Thanks, and lets do all a big favor, there is a lot of AAA games on the horizon, please if we been patience enough to wait for the LT lets do the same with the games, for love of God don't play games until they are released officially.
Mass Effect is coming soon and probably we are going to see 1000s invading the servers 1 week before of the release, this is what make M$ angry, and for sure a new ban wave will be soon.
IMHO
Post by: jonesy827 on January 20, 2010, 11:48:00 AM
Totally worth the wait. Thanks C4Eva!
Post by: Datenshiz on January 20, 2010, 11:57:00 AM
This post has been edited by Datenshiz: Jan 20 2010, 07:58 PM
Post by: saleem_hacks_360s on January 20, 2010, 12:02:00 PM
QUOTE(pablex @ Jan 20 2010, 06:45 PM)
Well to be honest I did not put a lot of attention to the calibration part yesterday when I did the flash, I am almost 95% sure that I use the dummy.bin stock extracted with usb xtractor which I think include all that crap,
I am at work right now and I want to rush home to check, but if not I going to reflash it again, making sure the calibration data is present.
Now, to all the people here how vital, important or however you wanna call it, is the calibration?
Since the iXtreme LT won't allow to be extracted with JF, it is possible to use the USB Xtractor?
Thanks, and lets do all a big favor, there is a lot of AAA games on the horizon, please if we been patience enough to wait for the LT lets do the same with the games, for love of God don't play games until they are released officially.
Mass Effect is coming soon and probably we are going to see 1000s invading the servers 1 week before of the release, this is what make M$ angry, and for sure a new ban wave will be soon.
IMHO
if you mean dummy from usb using the xtractor kit like for 74850 that dummy does not include the laser calibration,only the original fw dumped via the solder method does,if it did it would have to be found.this is why i asked i did not understand usb xtractor and thought he used a kit and the 74850 method,without backtracking to your original post.i can only think at this moment you had a 74850?
point being,if you use this and many more do and if the laser calibration is unique to the drive and many people have same laser calibration then ms will think "thats odd,9,000 people have same calibration and everyone else doesnt,ban hammer!"
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This post has been edited by saleem_hacks_360s: Jan 20 2010, 08:22 PM
Post by: zainday on January 20, 2010, 12:04:00 PM
QUOTE(pablex @ Jan 20 2010, 10:45 AM)
Well to be honest I did not put a lot of attention to the calibration part yesterday when I did the flash, I am almost 95% sure that I use the dummy.bin stock extracted with usb xtractor which I think include all that crap,
I am at work right now and I want to rush home to check, but if not I going to reflash it again, making sure the calibration data is present.
Now, to all the people here how vital, important or however you wanna call it, is the calibration?
Since the iXtreme LT won't allow to be extracted with JF, it is possible to use the USB Xtractor?
Thanks, and lets do all a big favor, there is a lot of AAA games on the horizon, please if we been patience enough to wait for the LT lets do the same with the games, for love of God don't play games until they are released officially.
Mass Effect is coming soon and probably we are going to see 1000s invading the servers 1 week before of the release, this is what make M$ angry, and for sure a new ban wave will be soon.
IMHO
Maybe read through post #258....page 18....
OggyUK...
From what I got outta it....you have to do a legit MRA dump of the ORIG.BIN to get a complete firmware dump.
If you have a dummy.bin , most likely you probed (or solder) your key from the extractor....
This isn't a complete dump of the original firmware....which appearently doesn't include the calibration data.
(if you load a dummy.bin into JF and then spoof LT and save file and log, read the log and you'll see the dummy.bin says it didn't include the calibration data)
I thought that you could try the stock 74xx.bin (included in lt file) with your dummy.bin and save the file and reload that saved file and spoof lt (jf shows as haven the calibration data, in log, this way) but apparently the calabration data is "UNIQUE" (oggys words) to the drive.
so unless you have the actually full firmware (ie ORIG.BIN) you won't and can't obtain your drives unique calabration data....
If i'm incorrect in what I gathering from oggy's post, PLEASE correct me , so I and other can fully understand.
But like I said, from what I gathered, No Orig.bin , No "safe" Lt version.....
This post has been edited by zainday: Jan 20 2010, 08:06 PM
Post by: maya2010 on January 20, 2010, 12:13:00 PM
to let everyone know, i flashed a virgin xbox and guess what!!? it got banned
i always view this forum so i registered to let everyone know and be cautious.
i appreciate C4E work but it seems M$ uses new ways of detections and until we figure out how M$ detects the modified consoles we won't be safe.
Post by: bonneville1992 on January 20, 2010, 12:15:00 PM
QUOTE(axpk95 @ Jan 20 2010, 07:01 PM)
hmmm it says apply all system updates before flashing with LT
i have jtag on my 360 and i dont want to update , so is it ok to just flash this anyway ?
thanx
if your xbox is jtag i wouldn't go on live with it. chances are pretty good you'll get banned.
Post by: zainday on January 20, 2010, 12:16:00 PM
QUOTE(maya2010 @ Jan 20 2010, 11:13 AM)
to let everyone know, i flashed a virgin xbox and guess what!!? it got banned (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grr.gif)
i always view this forum so i registered to let everyone know and be cautious.
i appreciate C4E work but it seems M$ uses new ways of detections and until we figure out how M$ detects the modified consoles we won't be safe.
OUCH! That BITES!
Thanks for the feedback though!
Did you use the ORIG.BIN way or just try it with a dummy.bin?
Post by: Blargharg on January 20, 2010, 12:23:00 PM
QUOTE(maya2010 @ Jan 20 2010, 08:13 PM)
to let everyone know, i flashed a virgin xbox and guess what!!? it got banned (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grr.gif)
i always view this forum so i registered to let everyone know and be cautious.
i appreciate C4E work but it seems M$ uses new ways of detections and until we figure out how M$ detects the modified consoles we won't be safe.
Yah, I'm gonna need some more info until I believe this 1 post troll.
Post by: TheDemonIII on January 20, 2010, 12:24:00 PM
Post by: saleem_hacks_360s on January 20, 2010, 12:24:00 PM
Post by: Grumbledock on January 20, 2010, 12:25:00 PM
QUOTE(maya2010 @ Jan 20 2010, 09:13 PM)
to let everyone know, i flashed a virgin xbox and guess what!!? it got banned
i always view this forum so i registered to let everyone know and be cautious.
i appreciate C4E work but it seems M$ uses new ways of detections and until we figure out how M$ detects the modified consoles we won't be safe.
That sounds scary....
I wonder if more people will report the same thing, they should if the firmware is fail, and c4eva and jt must do some more research. Anyhow I'll think I pass the LT, already got one boy for online and a banned for backups so I really don't feel that great urge to flash a box again, already got one for backups and one for live. Still, if the LT isn't working it really should be interesting to hear from other people confirming this, 'cause that would mean MS got some unknown method for detection.
Post by: Secret-Service on January 20, 2010, 12:27:00 PM
QUOTE(maya2010 @ Jan 20 2010, 08:13 PM)
to let everyone know, i flashed a virgin xbox and guess what!!? it got banned
i always view this forum so i registered to let everyone know and be cautious.
i appreciate C4E work but it seems M$ uses new ways of detections and until we figure out how M$ detects the modified consoles we won't be safe.
What games do you play? And do you remember splitvid and stealth -.- ?
Post by: saleem_hacks_360s on January 20, 2010, 12:28:00 PM
QUOTE(Secret-Service @ Jan 20 2010, 07:27 PM)
What games do you play?
he dont,hes a sony fanboy!
Post by: Blargharg on January 20, 2010, 12:29:00 PM
QUOTE(saleem_hacks_360s @ Jan 20 2010, 08:24 PM)
i am 10/90 with the guy who got banned.i mean,i flashed mine and a big middle finger appeared on my tv,see its easy isnt it!only this isnt my first post.
Virgin or previously modified?
Post by: TheDemonIII on January 20, 2010, 12:32:00 PM
QUOTE(saleem_hacks_360s @ Jan 20 2010, 02:24 PM)
i am 10/90 with the guy who got banned.i mean,i flashed mine and a big middle finger appeared on my tv,see its easy isnt it!only this isnt my first post.
and could u please provide some info on the backup u played. IE: splitvid? ssv2? downloaded? properly stealthed? all that fun stuff. with all those checks gone in lt microsoft can probably detect an improper backup alot easier than before
Post by: gldntch on January 20, 2010, 12:45:00 PM
QUOTE(maya2010 @ Jan 20 2010, 08:13 PM)
to let everyone know, i flashed a virgin xbox and guess what!!? it got banned
i always view this forum so i registered to let everyone know and be cautious.
i appreciate C4E work but it seems M$ uses new ways of detections and until we figure out how M$ detects the modified consoles we won't be safe.
Sorry dude, but here's a question most everyone is probably wondering..
Did you get your drive's calibration data?
In other words, did you MRA your drive which copies calibration data or did you just simply use the spear which does not?
Post by: clouduz on January 20, 2010, 12:49:00 PM
Crap starting already, not saying this is totally safe, but i bet the first couple bans will be user error. Not actually checking rips properly or having the ssv2, etc. I'll be flashing in a week after I see how everything goes. Got a virgin xbox to use.
Post by: saleem_hacks_360s on January 20, 2010, 12:56:00 PM
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 20, 2010, 12:57:00 PM
QUOTE(clouduz @ Jan 20 2010, 08:49 PM)
Crap starting already, not saying this is totally safe, but i bet the first couple bans will be user error. Not actually checking rips properly or having the ssv2, etc. I'll be flashing in a week after I see how everything goes. Got a virgin xbox to use. I am going to wait too. I am in no rush to flash right now.
Post by: drogy on January 20, 2010, 12:59:00 PM
QUOTE(TheDemonIII @ Jan 20 2010, 09:24 PM)
i think everyone who has a copy of their stock liteon firmware (full firmware not dummy) should collaborate and compare the calibration data. more should be known about this new find. my bet is that most people have the same or similar calibration because the previous versions of ixtreme worked without a problem on most liteons. its probly just a few that have calibration way different which would cause the problems people are so worried about
no need for everyone to collaborate. easiest thing to do would be get a 7xxxx stock drive, dump it using MRA method but don't flash it. then dump it using ck3 probe or equivalent. now take the dummy.bin and spoof to orig.bin (from the LT pack), save. so now if you compare the full dump with the spoofed to orig dump they should be the same. => if they are the same that means calibration data is universal for that rev at least. any bets?
Post by: TheDemonIII on January 20, 2010, 01:03:00 PM
QUOTE(drogy @ Jan 20 2010, 02:59 PM)
so now if you compare the full dump with the spoofed to orig dump they should be the same. => if they are the same that means calibration data is universal for that rev at least. any bets?
not necessarily. it would just mean that it is the same as the calibration data that c4e and team jungle have on their drive.
Post by: pablex on January 20, 2010, 01:04:00 PM
Post by: bodybag on January 20, 2010, 01:07:00 PM
QUOTE(pablex @ Jan 20 2010, 08:04 PM)
Ok if I already extracted the dummy.bin with the usbxtractor probe method, and the flashed the console, is possible to get the right orig.bin with MRA mode if I restock the drive?
From what I have read, once you have flashed your drive, there is no way of retreiving that info again(i could be wrong)
Post by: TheDemonIII on January 20, 2010, 01:07:00 PM
QUOTE(pablex @ Jan 20 2010, 03:04 PM)
Ok if I already extracted the dummy.bin with the usbxtractor probe method, and the flashed the console, is possible to get the right orig.bin with MRA mode if I restock the drive?
so many people keep asking this question and the answer is really obvious... NO. If you put the stock firmware in the LT package on ur drive, and then use the MRA method, all that you are doing is getting that same file.
Post by: drogy on January 20, 2010, 01:07:00 PM
QUOTE(TheDemonIII @ Jan 20 2010, 10:03 PM)
not necessarily. it would just mean that it is the same as the calibration data that c4e and team jungle have on their drive.
imo if my calibration data is the same as c4e's or yours, they're probably all the same. if they're different they should all be different. i don't think they make 1000 drives and then change the fw and my drive and your drive just happen to be from the same batch.
Post by: TheDemonIII on January 20, 2010, 01:11:00 PM
QUOTE(drogy @ Jan 20 2010, 03:07 PM)
imo if my calibration data is the same as c4e's or yours, they're probably all the same. if they're different they should all be different. i don't think they make 1000 drives and then change the fw and my drive and your drive just happen to be from the same batch.
its laser calibration data, so maybe some drives use slightly different lasers (that would need to be calibrated differently). Theres no way to tell without some research first.
QUOTE(zouzous @ Jan 20 2010, 03:08 PM)
Is it not possible for M$ just to read the disc ID of the backup your playing? surely they can. If a free program like imgburn can amongst many others surely there is some way for m$ to read its own games disc ID
hopefully the firmware was made with that in mind.
Post by: gldntch on January 20, 2010, 01:13:00 PM
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 20, 2010, 01:17:00 PM
Post by: TheDemonIII on January 20, 2010, 01:21:00 PM
QUOTE(zouzous @ Jan 20 2010, 03:19 PM)
if it was made with that in mind then it would have to send a false reading to m$, which some command would have to be set for it to send a disc id, probably the same over and over again where disc id's could be/should be unique. if it wasnt thought of.... oops.
well lets hope so. it probably does it correctly otherwise anyone who ever used any hacked firmware would have been banned.
Post by: zouzous on January 20, 2010, 01:24:00 PM
QUOTE(TheDemonIII @ Jan 20 2010, 08:21 PM)
.well lets hope so. it probably does it correctly otherwise anyone who ever used any hacked firmware would have been banned.
true, shame on m$ so lol
Post by: bullka on January 20, 2010, 01:24:00 PM
QUOTE(lenselijertje @ Jan 20 2010, 08:41 PM)
I have faith in c4eva. But i'm only going to use discs with ssv2 and splitvid, just to be sure
alot of my old discs only have ssv1
With what tool should I check that?
Is there a tutorial which explains how to see in that "tool" if my image is with ssv2 and splitvid or not?
Post by: TheDemonIII on January 20, 2010, 01:25:00 PM
QUOTE(bullka @ Jan 20 2010, 03:24 PM)
With what tool should I check that?
Is there a tutorial which explains how to see in that "tool" if my image is with ssv2 and splitvid or not?
abgx360. you dont really need a tutorial, when it does the check just look at the "Checking SS" It will say v1 or v2. and there is an option to check splitvid as well
Post by: pablex on January 20, 2010, 01:26:00 PM
Is this a theory.
I think this is a hot topic and would be great to hear something from C4E, JT, TX about this
Post by: guffedk on January 20, 2010, 01:32:00 PM
Adjust SS v1 angle 359 for ixtreme < 1.4
Is that something there must be on to LT or not?
Post by: drogy on January 20, 2010, 01:32:00 PM
QUOTE(pablex @ Jan 20 2010, 10:26 PM)
Well this thing about the calibration is driving me nuts, so is something mandatory, because some people say is not, others say it is?
Is this a theory.
I think this is a hot topic and would be great to hear something from C4E, JT, TX about this
there was very little talk / info about this so far so i would say it's not mandatory. i don't think laser calibration is in any way related to getting banned.
Post by: Evi1d33d on January 20, 2010, 01:35:00 PM
Post by: pike168 on January 20, 2010, 01:36:00 PM
Firstly, I have an DG-16D2S Drive which came with the 74850C firmware, i then flashed IXtreme 1.61 onto this drive. I do not think i have been flagged for banning because i did not use xbox Live prior to the banning and I would just like to know whether or not there is a way to restore my GD-16D2S drive back to its original state using jungleflasher and if so, how?
I have the following files saved from when i flashed the drive to IXtreme 1.61:
Dummy.bin
Identify.bin
Inquiry.bin
Key.bin
Lite_CFW.bin
Any help in restoring this drive to stock FW would be greatly appreciated because I might then take the plunge and flash this new Lite-Touch FW onto my drive.
Thanks!
Post by: pablex on January 20, 2010, 01:37:00 PM
QUOTE(drogy @ Jan 20 2010, 01:32 PM)
there was very little talk / info about this so far so i would say it's not mandatory. i don't think laser calibration is in any way related to getting banned.
Yes I think is not something to die for, I play 2 hours yesterday and signed in and out many times and was not banned, so I think with properly flash and well check disk we are good to go
Post by: barbarus on January 20, 2010, 01:42:00 PM
because i try to read a friend 74850c with LT and jungleflasher tell me an error, same for dosflash32/64..
Post by: drogy on January 20, 2010, 01:43:00 PM
QUOTE(pike168 @ Jan 20 2010, 10:36 PM)
Hello, I have a few question to ask because i haven't really kept up to date with all the latest "scene" developments so pardon my ignorance.
Firstly, I have an DG-16D2S Drive which came with the 74850C firmware, i then flashed IXtreme 1.61 onto this drive. I do not think i have been flagged for banning because i did not use xbox Live prior to the banning and I would just like to know whether or not there is a way to restore my GD-16D2S drive back to its original state using jungleflasher and if so, how?
I have the following files saved from when i flashed the drive to IXtreme 1.61:
Dummy.bin
Identify.bin
Inquiry.bin
Key.bin
Lite_CFW.bin
Any help in restoring this drive to stock FW would be greatly appreciated because I might then take the plunge and flash this new Lite-Touch FW onto my drive.
Thanks!
jungle flasher tutorial - http://jungleflasher...ngleFlasher.pdf
page 111 - returning a liteon to stock (that's actually the chapter title)
Post by: batman91 on January 20, 2010, 01:45:00 PM
QUOTE(Evi1d33d @ Jan 20 2010, 08:35 PM)
If I were M$ I would have a ban wave right now banning previous flagged consoles just to create panic and fuc with people's minds.
epic post. made me lulz.
Post by: drogy on January 20, 2010, 01:47:00 PM
QUOTE(barbarus @ Jan 20 2010, 10:42 PM)
but after i put the LT on 74850c i can read the firmware again with jungleflasher/dosflash or only by using the cut trace method?
because i try to read a friend 74850c with LT and jungleflasher tell me an error, same for dosflash32/64..
LT can only be read from drive using MRA method.
Post by: feidhlim1986 on January 20, 2010, 01:58:00 PM
Thanks
Post by: azuziel on January 20, 2010, 02:03:00 PM
Post by: Jagosix on January 20, 2010, 02:08:00 PM
. Question? How do I obtain the calibration data? I've already extracted the 74xxxxxc drive with all the required bin files. Now when I return it to stock via spoof it says no calibration data from the source file in the status window. What gives
? Am I missing something. Where do I obtain the calibration data from? Is it in one of the bin files that were extracted from the drive? need Help.P.S. is calibration it needed ????
Post by: amanchin on January 20, 2010, 02:13:00 PM
also, on a side note... i was able to flash a 8 series drive to LT and i didn't do anything regarding the calibration. got online no issues, but that was hours ago.
Post by: saleem_hacks_360s on January 20, 2010, 02:18:00 PM
so for those who can/cant read english once again!
IF YOU HAVE A PREVIOUSLY FLASHED DRIVE AND YOU ONLY HAVE THE DVDKEY OR LO83 EXTRACT INFO YOU CANNOT GET THE LASER CALIBRATION INFO,IT HAS TO BE EXTRACTED VIA MRA METHOD WITH THE ORIGINAL FW AND YOU DONT HAVE IT COS YOU OVERWROTE IT.
if they suss out if the dummy,bin has it then you might get it not before then,so dont start asking "when will i be able to get the calibration info from my dummy.bin" because it might not be there.
and learn to read english and to use your brains to read a few pages back at least.
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 20, 2010, 02:31:00 PM
QUOTE(amanchin @ Jan 20 2010, 10:13 PM)
is the calibration issue isolated to 7series drives? i've been trying to follow the posts and there were no mention of both 8s and the 9 series drives.
also, on a side note... i was able to flash a 8 series drive to LT and i didn't do anything regarding the calibration. got online no issues, but that was hours ago.
I have an 8xxxx Lite-on and JungleFlasher does mention about the calibration data.
Post by: chorizo1 on January 20, 2010, 02:37:00 PM
QUOTE(feidhlim1986 @ Jan 20 2010, 02:58 PM)
Could someone please tell me which setting I need checked/unchecked in abgx360 for checking/fixing backups so they are ready for LT?
Thanks
We don't do iso fixing, re-rip the originals using the proper methods here. PERIOD.
Post by: ZprivateZ on January 20, 2010, 02:38:00 PM
QUOTE(Jagosix @ Jan 20 2010, 04:08 PM)
Hello people. Now that the new Lt is out.
. Question? How do I obtain the calibration data? I've already extracted the 74xxxxxc drive with all the required bin files. Now when I return it to stock via spoof it says no calibration data from the source file in the status window. What gives
? Am I missing something. Where do I obtain the calibration data from? Is it in one of the bin files that were extracted from the drive? need Help.P.S. is calibration it needed ????
spoof your dummy file to the 7X series original firmware included with LT then make your LT firmware with that and you will get your calibration settings copied into your newly made LT firmware.
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 20, 2010, 02:42:00 PM
QUOTE(ZprivateZ @ Jan 20 2010, 10:38 PM)
spoof your dummy file to the 7X series original firmware included with LT then make your LT firmware with that and you will get your calibration settings copied into your newly made LT firmware.
Has it been confirmed that the calibration data is the same for a given firmware series?
On another note, I have a theory as to why once flashed to LT you can't extract the firmware like you could with iXtreme 1.6. Since you normally can't extract the real firmware with an original Lite-On without cutting traces and soldering a switch, LT emulates that behavior to make it look more like an original drive.
This post has been edited by ccfman2004: Jan 20 2010, 10:44 PM
Post by: bedojunkmail on January 20, 2010, 02:53:00 PM
QUOTE(Evi1d33d @ Jan 20 2010, 08:35 PM)
If I were M$ I would have a ban wave right now banning previous flagged consoles just to create panic and fuc with people's minds.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/muhaha.gif)
Wouldn't it be easier for M$ to just come on here and say "Hey I got BANNED!@@@!!?" "Me TOO" "Yeah, Me Too!", etc.
Post by: cardboardbox on January 20, 2010, 02:55:00 PM
I'm still on dash 7363. What will happen if I flash first and then let it update to the latest dash?
Post by: ZprivateZ on January 20, 2010, 03:03:00 PM
QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Jan 20 2010, 04:42 PM)
Has it been confirmed that the calibration data is the same for a given firmware series?
On another note, I have a theory as to why once flashed to LT you can't extract the firmware like you could with iXtreme 1.6. Since you normally can't extract the real firmware with an original Lite-On without cutting traces and soldering a switch, LT emulates that behavior to make it look more like an original drive.
No nothing has been confirmed that I know of, but when you do it that way you get calibration settings copied over instead of seeing "no calibration settings present in source" now weather or not the calibration settings are standard across the board or unique is something that hasnt been stated offically yet but I'm thinking maybe that was why the original firmware was included with release but I could be 100% wrong
Post by: elguluso on January 20, 2010, 03:21:00 PM
QUOTE(Modify_inc @ Jan 19 2010, 08:50 PM)
So if I backup using a Samsung Keron drive do I need to do anything to the backup or is it ready to go? With all this talk about ss2 etc, I'm little confused.
it's a good idea to run it thru abgx versio1.0.2, I think that is what I would suggest.
Post by: hellscreamr on January 20, 2010, 03:21:00 PM
This would be my first post. First of all I would like to thank everyone for all the work in making these cfw possible.
Now, about this calibration data I kept reading about:
I have compared the addresses 3C000 to 3CFFF (if I remember correctly) between the ix 1.6 (or ix1.5) and the orig fw from the package and the data is the same. The difference is in the LT fw. I have modded my console only once (currently I am on ix 1.5 liteon) and the laser is still working.
If this is, as I have been reading, some laser calibration data, it is the same between the original fw from the package, the ix 1.5 fw and the ix 1.6 fw.
If I'm going to flash with LT, should I keep the calibration data from the ix1.5 (since it is working in my case) or leave the data contained in the LT package for flashing?
Thanks a lot in advance.
Post by: elguluso on January 20, 2010, 03:36:00 PM
Post by: Chaosplt on January 20, 2010, 03:38:00 PM
QUOTE(walterg74 @ Jan 20 2010, 02:40 AM)
Yeah! Wow! HOMEBREW!!! LEt's concentrate on getting the box to play all those crappy emulators and s*it, that you can already play on your pc with no hassle! So cool!!!
Honestly, why ppl get so revved up on crap like that, I'll never undestand really lame....
(Of course it is really god for the people that actually hack this, being that's what they like to do, and it's a real achievement to do it, but for the others? Lamest thing ever....)
lol, shut the hell up, I hope you get banned.
Post by: Martinchris23 on January 20, 2010, 03:45:00 PM
QUOTE(coedshowers @ Jan 20 2010, 10:38 PM)
so what if i had a console i took offline right after the last update ( the one right before the ban wave started ) and i have played just a few games on it all scanned with abgx . how do i know if the hard drive put flags up?? could i just format the internal mem and the hd and then reflash with LT and it re-check and flag it as a good system??
1. There are no flags on the HDD. Arcade systems are flagged as well as others with HDDs.
2. If you've played ONE copy online then you may already be flagged but won't know it until the ban wave hits.
As a side note, what's with all the noobish questions in this thread? How come as soon as there's a SNIFF of being able to play copies online they all come out of the woodwork. Got a question about bans? Post it in the newbies section. While you're there, spend a couple of hours reading the stickies and other posts on the subject - don't litter threads like this with daft questions.
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 20, 2010, 03:52:00 PM
QUOTE(3thereal @ Jan 20 2010, 11:48 PM)
Exactly, that's why I won't really be bothering. I don't mind, I still have a hundred games to play through haha. Question is, does the team plan on still putting out updates for non-LT firmware so I can keep updating my xbox when new waves come out?
That's the purpose of iXtreme 1.61 for Samsung, BenQ and Lite-on and 1.51 for Hitachi. They will launch any wave regardless without the need for the activate.iso.
Post by: brauntje on January 20, 2010, 03:59:00 PM
But to answer a few questions, to find out if your xbox is flagged or not (flagged for banning of xbox live) you can (from what I heard, haven't tried it), simply call Xbox for any service or repair. If they want to help you according from the serial number of your xbox, your console isn't banned. And if they say that your xbox is out of guarantee and they don't want to help you because you have violated the terms of use, your xbox is banned.
So that way you can pre-check to see if your xbox is flagged or not, and when it's flagged, simply don't connect to live anymore to prevent your savegames being crippled. And then hope you are in a vulnerable kernel to jtag your xbox like I did:D. It worked great and thnx to all the people involved in the complete xbox-scene!!!!
Brauntje
Post by: 3thereal on January 20, 2010, 04:04:00 PM
QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Jan 20 2010, 06:52 PM)
That's the purpose of iXtreme 1.61 for Samsung, BenQ and Lite-on and 1.51 for Hitachi. They will launch any wave regardless without the need for the activate.iso.
Oh sh@*#&, I thought 1.61 was just for the latest wave, didn't realize it added support for taking on any wave changes
Thanks!
Post by: rayd on January 20, 2010, 04:08:00 PM
Post by: brauntje on January 20, 2010, 04:11:00 PM
QUOTE(3thereal @ Jan 21 2010, 12:04 AM)
Oh sh@*#&, I thought 1.61 was just for the latest wave, didn't realize it added support for taking on any wave changes
Thanks!Yeah my thoughs were also that the official C4E 1.61 firmware (not the "unofficial waveless versions" that came before the official c4e 1.61) was wave restricted and made for all the waves till now but not for any future waves.
So you can better grab a unofficial waveless version I think. But I haven't found the unofficials on xbins so I don't know where to get them. Can anyone confirm this?
Post by: sdeens2009 on January 20, 2010, 04:26:00 PM
This is too important an issue to just ignore and we need an explanation from Germania and Team JF and C4eva EXACTLY why it was removed after all these years; Incidently, the JungleFlasher's README file in the program folder failed to mention it, but the official 4mb/150 page tutorial did mention that LT spoofing was removed on pages: 91, 117 and 123 in BOLD CAPITALIZED letters.
2) But, can we manualy spoof the LT firmware anyway by using HEX editor and what are the .hex addresses and values for each drive type?
WHY ASK?
Because my original Hitachi 79FL went tits up last year in my ZEPHYR console and I want to try and test LT on one of my spare LiteON: 73850C or Samsung MS28 drives. I assume many of us are in this same boat.
Please don't tell me I need to buy a new stock Hitachi (any revision I assume is ok) and wait for an Hitachi-LT firmware release.
I would rather take my chances on spoofing the Samsung MS28 drive with Hiatchi 79FL strings and use the new LT in it (when the sammy firmware is released)
p.s.
A poster just asked on this page if he should udpate his console at 7363 kernel so he can test LT
NO NO NO
DO NOT DO IT!
That is an EXTREMELY valuable 360 console that is among the few 360's that are exploitable using the wonderful and vastly superior JTAG exploit. Go read up on how to JTAG that 7363 console under the KERNEL threads in this forum (I post there myself). I promise you will regret it if you update to 8955. LT is NOT worth sacraficing a 7363 kernel, and you have options to UNBAN that console later if you have its CPU key (read my earlier post on page 3 of this thread on how to unban such early kernel consoles)
Post by: deans21 on January 20, 2010, 04:27:00 PM
QUOTE(pike168 @ Jan 20 2010, 06:21 PM)
Hello again, thanks for pointing me toward that really comprehensive tutorial.
I think i might have just bricked my drive though, i followed all the steps and i then got to the part when i had to erase my lite-on, i clicked that option and then did the power-cycle as the tutorial suggested, The drive then showed as being in vendor mode under the "Drive Properties" section of jungleflasher. This is where it went wrong though as my computer just froze, couldnt move the mouse or anything (dont worry im not using a VIA chipset because i have read that this can sometimes happen, im using my nvidia chipset with which i have flashed a few drives). As i then has to restart my PC i had a feeling that i was now in trouble and i was right.
When i turn the device on using my handy little CK3 tool, the device does not appear under jungle flasher and worst of all, the eject switch on my CK3 does nothing, the drive does not respond to the eject command. I tried to send a "Intro / Device ID" command by pressing that button in the "MTK Flash 32" section of jungleflasher and then switching the device on but that does nothing.
So what do you think, Is my Lite-On bricked ?
You should still be ok if you have all of the .bins saved. Same thing happened to me last night. I just kept messing with JungleFlasher and eventually it went. In your case though you may need to try DosFlash. That should fix it.
Try this link: http://www.robinhood.../...=195&t=3226
It's a little outdated but might help.
Post by: Matrix01 on January 20, 2010, 04:28:00 PM
QUOTE(pike168 @ Jan 21 2010, 12:21 AM)
Hello again, thanks for pointing me toward that really comprehensive tutorial.
I think i might have just bricked my drive though, i followed all the steps and i then got to the part when i had to erase my lite-on, i clicked that option and then did the power-cycle as the tutorial suggested, The drive then showed as being in vendor mode under the "Drive Properties" section of jungleflasher. This is where it went wrong though as my computer just froze, couldnt move the mouse or anything (dont worry im not using a VIA chipset because i have read that this can sometimes happen, im using my nvidia chipset with which i have flashed a few drives). As i then has to restart my PC i had a feeling that i was now in trouble and i was right.
When i turn the device on using my handy little CK3 tool, the device does not appear under jungle flasher and worst of all, the eject switch on my CK3 does nothing, the drive does not respond to the eject command. I tried to send a "Intro / Device ID" command by pressing that button in the "MTK Flash 32" section of jungleflasher and then switching the device on but that does nothing.
So what do you think, Is my Lite-On bricked ?
I know you said you switched the drive on but try keeping the drive on then send the intro switch it off then on again that should bring it back.
Post by: me2611 on January 20, 2010, 04:28:00 PM
QUOTE(pike168 @ Jan 21 2010, 01:21 AM)
Hello again, thanks for pointing me toward that really comprehensive tutorial.
I think i might have just bricked my drive though, i followed all the steps and i then got to the part when i had to erase my lite-on, i clicked that option and then did the power-cycle as the tutorial suggested, The drive then showed as being in vendor mode under the "Drive Properties" section of jungleflasher. This is where it went wrong though as my computer just froze, couldnt move the mouse or anything (dont worry im not using a VIA chipset because i have read that this can sometimes happen, im using my nvidia chipset with which i have flashed a few drives). As i then has to restart my PC i had a feeling that i was now in trouble and i was right.
When i turn the device on using my handy little CK3 tool, the device does not appear under jungle flasher and worst of all, the eject switch on my CK3 does nothing, the drive does not respond to the eject command. I tried to send a "Intro / Device ID" command by pressing that button in the "MTK Flash 32" section of jungleflasher and then switching the device on but that does nothing.
So what do you think, Is my Lite-On bricked ?
Put your drive into tray half open and on MTK Flash 32 tab in jungleflasher hit the Intro/Device ID tab and follow the instructions. This should put your drive back into vendor mode and then can proceed to flash.
GL
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 20, 2010, 04:34:00 PM
QUOTE(sdeens2009 @ Jan 21 2010, 12:26 AM)
I am NOT worried about this calibration issue. The Provider (MS) is not going to be able to detect it safely anyway since such a value may in time become difficult to measure accurately, especially in drives that have old or dieing lasers, (assuming its even detetctible in the first place). I think the boys at JF were right to leave it out of the 1.70 tutorial. It too much of generic reach even for MS to safely use as a triggering mechanism for future ban hammers.
Now speaking of tutorials, this is what we should be discussing:
1) why was spoofing left out of this LT release? Did the 8955 kernel have some code looking for spoofed firmware strings?
This is too important an issue to just ignore and we need an explanation from Germania and Team JF and Ceva EXACTLY why it was removed after all these years; Incidently, the JungleFlasher's README file in the program folder failed to mention it, but the official 4mb/150 page tutorial did mention that LT spoofing was removed on pages: 91, 117 and 123 in BOLD CAPITALIZED letters.
2) But, can we manualy spoof the LT firmware anyway by using HEX editor and what are the .hex addresses and values for each drive type?
WHY ASK?
Because my original Hitachi 79FL went tits up last year in my ZEPHYR console and I want to try and test LT on one of my spare LiteON: 73850C or Samsung MS28 drives. I assume many of us are in this same boat.
Please don't tell me I need to buy a new stock Hitachi (any revision I assume is ok) and wait for an Hitachi-LT firmware release.
I would rather take my chances on spoofing the Samsung MS28 drive with Hiatchi 79FL strings and use the new LT in it (when the sammy firmware is released)
p.s.
A poster just asked on this page if he should udpate his console at 7363 kernel so he can test LT
NO NO NO
DO NOT DO IT!
That is an EXTREMELY valuable 360 console that is among the few 360's that are exploitable using the wonderful and vastly superior JTAG exploit. Go read up on how to JTAG that 7363 console under the KERNEL threads in this forum (I post there myself). I promise you will regret it if you update to 8955. LT is NOT worth sacraficing a 7363 kernel, and you have options to UNBAN that console later if you have its CPU key (read my earlier post on page 3 of this thread on how to unban such early kernel consoles)
I need to remind you that if the console was made mid-june 2009 or newer, the chances are that you won't be able to JTAG it since the CB version is not exploitable.
Post by: daman22 on January 20, 2010, 04:46:00 PM
QUOTE(sdeens2009 @ Jan 20 2010, 06:26 PM)
I am NOT worried about this calibration issue. The Provider (MS) is not going to be able to detect it safely anyway since such a value may in time become difficult to measure accurately, especially in drives that have old or dieing lasers, (assuming its even detetctible in the first place). I think the boys at JF were right to leave it out of the 1.70 tutorial. It too much of generic reach even for MS to safely use as a triggering mechanism for future ban hammers.
Now speaking of tutorials, this is what we should be discussing:
1) why was spoofing left out of this LT release? Did the 8955 kernel have some code looking for spoofed firmware strings?
This is too important an issue to just ignore and we need an explanation from Germania and Team JF and C4eva EXACTLY why it was removed after all these years; Incidently, the JungleFlasher's README file in the program folder failed to mention it, but the official 4mb/150 page tutorial did mention that LT spoofing was removed on pages: 91, 117 and 123 in BOLD CAPITALIZED letters.
2) But, can we manualy spoof the LT firmware anyway by using HEX editor and what are the .hex addresses and values for each drive type?
WHY ASK?
Because my original Hitachi 79FL went tits up last year in my ZEPHYR console and I want to try and test LT on one of my spare LiteON: 73850C or Samsung MS28 drives. I assume many of us are in this same boat.
Please don't tell me I need to buy a new stock Hitachi (any revision I assume is ok) and wait for an Hitachi-LT firmware release.
I would rather take my chances on spoofing the Samsung MS28 drive with Hiatchi 79FL strings and use the new LT in it (when the sammy firmware is released)
p.s.
A poster just asked on this page if he should udpate his console at 7363 kernel so he can test LT
NO NO NO
DO NOT DO IT!
That is an EXTREMELY valuable 360 console that is among the few 360's that are exploitable using the wonderful and vastly superior JTAG exploit. Go read up on how to JTAG that 7363 console under the KERNEL threads in this forum (I post there myself). I promise you will regret it if you update to 8955. LT is NOT worth sacraficing a 7363 kernel, and you have options to UNBAN that console later if you have its CPU key (read my earlier post on page 3 of this thread on how to unban such early kernel consoles)
calm down...everyones obsess with jtag...
Post by: Cedru on January 20, 2010, 05:17:00 PM
QUOTE(OggyUK @ Jan 20 2010, 11:58 AM)
CODE
I thought this fw was supposed to be as close to the original as possible.
If so why does it say iXtreme LT in firmware type instead of Stock.
Wouldnt M$ be able to see this?
Just a thought biggrin.gif
JF identifies it as LT, it doesnt have to be labelled LT directly.
Umm...... Something just popped in my head, and it may be because I am super tired and not thinking clearly. However, if JF can identify it (as it does) as LT, what is stopping any LIVE Checks from identifying it as LT?
While we are at it, if ImgBurn knows the difference between blank Media and original media, why would M$ not be able to?
Burning questions that I do not know the answer to....
Ced
Post by: aqswde123 on January 20, 2010, 05:19:00 PM
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 20, 2010, 05:20:00 PM
QUOTE(Cedru @ Jan 21 2010, 01:17 AM)
Umm...... Something just popped in my head, and it may be because I am super tired and not thinking clearly. However, if JF can identify it (as it does) as LT, what is stopping any LIVE Checks from identifying it as LT?
While we are at it, if ImgBurn knows the difference between blank Media and original media, why would M$ not be able to?
Burning questions that I do not know the answer to....
Ced
When you load a firmware, JF checks the hash value for the loaded firmware and compares it to a known list. The only way to check is to be able to read the firmware. If you can't dump the firmware, you can't check it.
Post by: kenny007 on January 20, 2010, 05:24:00 PM
. Damn it I haven't connect to Xbox live since the Nov banned wave (maybe I was flagged then) this I will never know. Anyway as I flashed my 2 drives (1 for testing) yesterday to the new LT it works fine but I try to retrieve the dummy file from jf after flashing it and it didn't work. Very strange why after I flashed to LT I can no longer retrieve the key or dummy file using the half open tray method? Anyway now since I got banned and my harddrive got corrupted I can't save my game anymore (all 12 profiles on my console is gone, corrupted I think). I only have 1 xbox and don't mind playing offline but now I can't save my game. Can anyone help me on this, What do I need to do to save my game progess? Or is there no way to save my game once my console is banned? If this is the case that is sux and I guess I have to sell it on ebay.
Post by: xbox360sexual on January 20, 2010, 05:27:00 PM
QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Jan 21 2010, 12:20 AM)
When you load a firmware, JF checks the hash value for the loaded firmware and compares it to a known list. The only way to check is to be able to read the firmware. If you can't dump the firmware, you can't check it.
No this isn't true, the "ixtreme LT" is actually written in the firmware.
Post by: 3thereal on January 20, 2010, 05:30:00 PM
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 20, 2010, 05:35:00 PM
QUOTE(kenny007 @ Jan 21 2010, 01:24 AM)
Hello long time follower of the scene and first time poster. Just flashed my lite on yesterday to LT from 1.61 and connect to Live and boom, I got BAnned
. Damn it I haven't connect to Xbox live since the Nov banned wave (maybe I was flagged then) this I will never know. Anyway as I flashed my 2 drives (1 for testing) yesterday to the new LT it works fine but I try to retrieve the dummy file from jf after flashing it and it didn't work. Very strange why after I flashed to LT I can no longer retrieve the key or dummy file using the half open tray method? Anyway now since I got banned and my harddrive got corrupted I can't save my game anymore (all 12 profiles on my console is gone, corrupted I think). I only have 1 xbox and don't mind playing offline but now I can't save my game. Can anyone help me on this, What do I need to do to save my game progess? Or is there no way to save my game once my console is banned? If this is the case that is sux and I guess I have to sell it on ebay.
1. iXtreme LT was designed so you can't use the half trey method to extract it (probably done this way to make it more like an original firmware.
2. You have to dump your nand and run findsecdata and follow the commands it gives you to uncripple your xbox. If you are in the USA, I can do it for you if you don't want to (or don't know how to solder). PM me for details. I have uncrippled many xbox's already.
Post by: Bonz099 on January 20, 2010, 05:36:00 PM
Post by: MeAidan on January 20, 2010, 05:38:00 PM
***WARNING*** Serial Data is bad
message when I try to dump my LiteOn 74850C.
This is obviously the first time I am modding an xbox
I am using the Connectivity Kit Lite (Serial connector), and the green light on the probe lights up when I touch the R707 point.
I have searched for solutions and all I see is to check all your wires are working. ...well I assume they are but I dont know. They seem to see the com1 port so i guess the serial cable is working and it sees the controller so I imagine the the VIA card is working, and it sees the Drive Properties so I think the SATA cable is working.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 20, 2010, 05:44:00 PM
QUOTE(MeAidan @ Jan 21 2010, 01:38 AM)
Could someone lend me a quick hand. I am getting a:
***WARNING*** Serial Data is bad
message when I try to dump my LiteOn 74850C.
This is obviously the first time I am modding an xbox
I am using the Connectivity Kit Lite, and the green light on the probe lights up when I touch the R707 point.
I have searched for solutions and all I see is to check all your wires are working. ...well I assume they are but I dont know. They seem to see the com1 port so i guess the serial cable is working and it sees the controller so I imagine the the VIA card is working, and it sees the Drive Properties so I think the SATA cable is working.
Any ideas?
Thanks
What type of probe are you using, RS-232 or USB?
QUOTE(Bonz099 @ Jan 21 2010, 01:36 AM)
I could efin scream right now, my box has been untouched, brand new 3 months ago. Get home do the flash and now its RROD-ing. It befuddles me how this is even possible with a jasper board which im told has a 1% failure rate. The flash went 100% by the book. Damn thing wont even boot with my hand on it. Ive got it sitting unplugged right now. *ugh*
What color is the power supply light when you try to turn it on?
Post by: Ree1981 on January 20, 2010, 05:47:00 PM
QUOTE(Bonz099 @ Jan 21 2010, 01:36 AM)
I could fucken scream right now, my box has been untouched, brand new 3 months ago. Get home do the flash and now its RROD-ing. It befuddles me how this is even possible with a jasper board which im told has a 1% failure rate. The flash went 100% by the book. Damn thing wont even boot with my hand on it. Ive got it sitting unplugged right now. *ugh*
The Xbox can give a temporary RROD error if one of the solderings on the DVD are touching ground. I had it happen once. Easily fixed though.
Post by: MeAidan on January 20, 2010, 05:48:00 PM
QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Jan 21 2010, 01:44 AM)
What type of probe are you using, RS-232 or USB?
The RS-232 Serial. Connectivity Kit 3 Lite
Post by: Bonz099 on January 20, 2010, 05:49:00 PM
QUOTE(Ree1981 @ Jan 20 2010, 07:47 PM)
The Xbox can give a temporary RROD error if one of the solderings on the DVD are touching ground. I had it happen once. Easily fixed though.
Where shoudl I start? Process? I didnt even open the drive case.
Post by: Ree1981 on January 20, 2010, 05:52:00 PM
QUOTE(Bonz099 @ Jan 21 2010, 01:49 AM)
Where shoudl I start? Process? I didnt even open the drive case.
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 20, 2010, 05:52:00 PM
QUOTE(MeAidan @ Jan 21 2010, 01:48 AM)
The RS-232 Serial. Connectivity Kit 3 Lite
You should try to cycle through the com settings. Try COM2.
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 20, 2010, 05:57:00 PM
QUOTE(Bonz099 @ Jan 21 2010, 01:55 AM)
Damn, I tried that. Is it possible its logged a hardware error and needs a reset? Is there any location on the board where i can pull up or push down on where I might be able to get the system just once. Ide like to see it boot at least one time before i x-clamp it.
Do this. When you get the RRoD, hold the snyc button and press the DVD eject button 4 four time watching the how many lights you get each time you press the eject button and post your results. This will narrow what the problem might be.
1 red light = 1
2 red lights = 2
3 red lights = 3
4 red lights = 0
Post by: Bonz099 on January 20, 2010, 06:05:00 PM
QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Jan 20 2010, 07:57 PM)
Do this. When you get the RRoD, hold the snyc button and press the DVD eject button 4 four time watching the how many lights you get each time you press the eject button and post your results. This will narrow what the problem might be.
1 red light = 1
2 red lights = 2
3 red lights = 3
4 red lights = 0
4 then 1 then 1 then 4 so im assuming = 0110
Post by: Aksh0le on January 20, 2010, 06:06:00 PM
Post by: smuddge37 on January 20, 2010, 06:08:00 PM
my guess is you update fine and there are no problems.
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 20, 2010, 06:10:00 PM
QUOTE(Bonz099 @ Jan 21 2010, 02:05 AM)
4 then 1 then 1 then 4 so im assuming = 0110
Seems like a RAM error in which case the x-clamp fix won't help. Have you ever successfully booted the console before?
Post by: Bonz099 on January 20, 2010, 06:11:00 PM
QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Jan 20 2010, 08:10 PM)
Seems like a RAM error in which case the x-clamp fix won't help. Have you ever successfully booted the console before?
Not since the flash, but before hand yea, tons of times.
Post by: impimpin206 on January 20, 2010, 06:13:00 PM
QUOTE(Bonz099 @ Jan 20 2010, 05:11 PM)
Not since the flash, but before hand yea, tons of times.
Don't jack this thread- it's for iXtreme LT discussion. Take your RROD issues elsewhere
Post by: MeAidan on January 20, 2010, 06:15:00 PM
QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Jan 21 2010, 01:52 AM)
You should try to cycle through the com settings. Try COM2.
Yea I only have 1 com port. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Post by: pablex on January 20, 2010, 06:18:00 PM
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 20, 2010, 06:19:00 PM
QUOTE(pablex @ Jan 21 2010, 02:18 AM)
Anybody knows if the warranty check still valid to check if my console is flagged?
yes as it has been said several times in this thread.
I wish someone from Team Jungle or C4eva would comment about the calibration data questions.
This post has been edited by ccfman2004: Jan 21 2010, 02:22 AM
Post by: leorimolo on January 20, 2010, 06:21:00 PM
Post by: pablex on January 20, 2010, 06:23:00 PM
QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Jan 20 2010, 06:19 PM)
yes as it has been said several times in this thread.
Awesome, everytime before I sign I check the status, sounds ridiculous I know
Post by: kenny007 on January 20, 2010, 06:37:00 PM
QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Jan 21 2010, 01:35 AM)
1. iXtreme LT was designed so you can't use the half trey method to extract it (probably done this way to make it more like an original firmware.
2. You have to dump your nand and run findsecdata and follow the commands it gives you to uncripple your xbox. If you are in the USA, I can do it for you if you don't want to (or don't know how to solder). PM me for details. I have uncrippled many xbox's already.
Unfortunately I'm not in the USA. I heard that you can uncripple your drive using an adaptor without needing to solder is that correct?
Post by: ADAWG69 on January 20, 2010, 06:43:00 PM
QUOTE(MeAidan @ Jan 20 2010, 08:15 PM)
Yea I only have 1 com port.
You may only have one physical com port but your motherboard may have a connection for the addition of a second com port. You could find out fairly quickly by looking at your motherboard manual. It's a long shot since the physical port is normally com 1 but it is worth a shot.
Post by: MeAidan on January 20, 2010, 06:47:00 PM
QUOTE(ADAWG69 @ Jan 21 2010, 02:43 AM)
You may only have one physical com port but your motherboard may have a connection for the addition of a second com port. You could find out fairly quickly by looking at your motherboard manual. It's a long shot since the physical port is normally com 1 but it is worth a shot.
Nope, only have 1. I had to get a serial cable to plug into the only COM port on the motherboard. Is there a way of testing if that serial cable is working?
Post by: ADAWG69 on January 20, 2010, 06:55:00 PM
QUOTE(MeAidan @ Jan 20 2010, 08:47 PM)
Nope, only have 1. I had to get a serial cable to plug into the only COM port on the motherboard. Is there a way of testing if that serial cable is working?
I doubt it is the cable. You mentioned having a VIA chipset right? I would suggest trying the dos method of flashing as VIA seems to cause problems using JF. You should be able to find a thorough guide easily.
Post by: MeAidan on January 20, 2010, 06:59:00 PM
QUOTE(ADAWG69 @ Jan 21 2010, 02:55 AM)
I doubt it is the cable. You mentioned having a VIA chipset right? I would suggest trying the dos method of flashing as VIA seems to cause problems using JF. You should be able to find a thorough guide easily.
Yea I was thinking that, I just figured this is the newest version so thought it would work. Thanks for the help anyway!
Post by: ImpactPlayer on January 20, 2010, 07:09:00 PM
QUOTE(MeAidan @ Jan 20 2010, 08:59 PM)
Yea I was thinking that, I just figured this is the newest version so thought it would work. Thanks for the help anyway! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Try using an older version of JF. I still use JF 1.5X because the latest releases always cause my system to hang and freeze. I don't even bother anymore because I have a solid version that always works for me.
Post by: trent666 on January 20, 2010, 07:10:00 PM
if my hands didnt shake so much i probably could solder but for me its physically impossible to do it right.
Post by: impimpin206 on January 20, 2010, 07:14:00 PM
QUOTE(trent666 @ Jan 20 2010, 06:10 PM)
glad its out but unless a no solder method comes out to upgrade (8v2, 9 + LT) the lite-ons i'll stick with what ive got.
if my hands didnt shake so much i probably could solder but for me its physically impossible to do it right.
If you really want to get it done, there are xbox modders in pretty much every city. Check craigslist. Just make sure you're going with someone experienced!
Post by: trent666 on January 20, 2010, 07:24:00 PM
QUOTE(impimpin206 @ Jan 21 2010, 02:14 AM)
If you really want to get it done, there are xbox modders in pretty much every city. Check craigslist. Just make sure you're going with someone experienced!
i can do the non solder ones myself and have done so for years. i tried a liteon 7 when it first came out with the solder method and within 30 mins of buying it i had destroyed it with solder
i dont use xbox live so it doesnt really bother me.off-topic- funny story i paid for a 1 year membership to xbox live, got banned a week later and a few weeks ago got an email saying my membership was ending and asked if i would like to renew for another year. LOL.
Post by: bedojunkmail on January 20, 2010, 07:32:00 PM
QUOTE(cardboardbox @ Jan 21 2010, 12:21 AM)
You are probably referring to me... unfortunately it has a manufactured date of 2009-7-10. Yeah I was disappointed that I can't jtag it.
I've read this entire thread and now my eyes are dry and tired and I'd like to wait a week or two to flash to LT. I currently have 1.61 or something like that and my dash is 7363. Which firmware should I be using for older games (wave 3 and older)? I have no interest in plugging in my ethernet cable until I update to LT.
There's some speculation that during the update to one of the latest dash versions it is able to detect ixtreme 1.6/1.61.
I think the recommendation to update to the latest dash before applying LT is only for a virgin box. I would at least put stock firmware back on it before updating the dash.
Post by: SlayerQC on January 20, 2010, 07:47:00 PM
Effin had to simply cruise by all 27 pages and hope I get all the vital info and avoid the junk, instead of carefully reading.
Did you enjoy reading this post? No right? Try 27 pages of it...
This post has been edited by SlayerQC: Jan 21 2010, 03:51 AM
Post by: crackalac on January 20, 2010, 07:49:00 PM
QUOTE(leorimolo @ Jan 20 2010, 07:21 PM)
Flash then update, I think that is waayyy safer.
That sounds kinda backwards to me. If they are detecting during the update, you would want to be stock while updating and then flash to lt afterward.
Post by: thecityhunter on January 20, 2010, 07:49:00 PM
flash back to stock
updated
and now running perfectly.
Post by: Matrix01 on January 20, 2010, 07:56:00 PM
Question 1 will it boot non-splitvid disc?
Question 2 will it boot SSV1 Disc?
Thanks.
Post by: impimpin206 on January 20, 2010, 07:58:00 PM
QUOTE(Matrix01 @ Jan 20 2010, 06:56 PM)
2 quick questions guys.
Question 1 will it boot non-splitvid disc?
Question 2 will it boot SSV1 Disc?
Thanks.
It will boot ANYTHING. If you put in something that's not legit, you'll get banned.
Post by: xlinkx on January 20, 2010, 07:59:00 PM
Post by: MeAidan on January 20, 2010, 08:06:00 PM
QUOTE(SlayerQC @ Jan 21 2010, 03:47 AM)
STICK TO THE TOPIC!!!!! NEWB QUESTIONS TO THE NEWB FORUM. So much pollution, please dont reply to off-topic questions. MODS plz delete as many unrelated posts, if possible. Thank you.
Effin had to simply cruise by all 27 pages and hope I get all the vital info and avoid the junk, instead of carefully reading.
Did you enjoy reading this post? No right? Try 27 pages of it...
Most people do not post in such unpleasant font.
Post by: impimpin206 on January 20, 2010, 08:08:00 PM
QUOTE(MeAidan @ Jan 20 2010, 07:06 PM)
Most people do not post in such unpleasant font.
If we were still in the Netscape era of the 90's I'm sure he'd have used </blink>
Post by: SlayerQC on January 20, 2010, 08:12:00 PM
QUOTE(MeAidan @ Jan 20 2010, 08:06 PM)
That was intended and my "sweet revenge" from sorting through 27 pages of hellofalot junk! As usual.... happens all the time. Im sure the polluters can handle it...
And hopefully get the point across to save us all from more junk in the future...
Thank me later. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
This post has been edited by SlayerQC: Jan 21 2010, 04:14 AM
Post by: saleem_hacks_360s on January 20, 2010, 08:18:00 PM
way to go kiddies.
Post by: tsbeech on January 20, 2010, 09:20:00 PM
Will be donating asap!!!
Thanks c4e!!!!!
Post by: pablex on January 20, 2010, 10:00:00 PM
Played with a copy of bayonetta while I was online, NO BAN.
Thanks C4E, Team Jungle, Team Xecuter, this LT is working very good.
Post by: aqswde123 on January 20, 2010, 10:27:00 PM
Post by: DeadlyRox on January 20, 2010, 10:32:00 PM
QUOTE(pablex @ Jan 21 2010, 01:00 AM)
Well I go to bed, second day with LT everything looks fine, downloaded couple arcade games, NO BAN.
Played with a copy of bayonetta while I was online, NO BAN.
Thanks C4E, Team Jungle, Team Xecuter, this LT is working very good.
Lol u will know if u are going to be banned soon (maybe next November).
I have a lot of friends with, ixtreme 1.51, 1.61. 1.6, 1.6 non stealth and 1.4 non stealth online yet since a few weeks ago lol but for sure they are flagged until the next ban wave ? or put in into stream again ?
Post by: Ubergeek2 on January 20, 2010, 10:38:00 PM
QUOTE(maya2010 @ Jan 20 2010, 08:13 PM)
to let everyone know, i flashed a virgin xbox and guess what!!? it got banned
i always view this forum so i registered to let everyone know and be cautious.
i appreciate C4E work but it seems M$ uses new ways of detections and until we figure out how M$ detects the modified consoles we won't be safe.
Nice try Mr #1 poster lol
Post by: WeenerMcwang on January 20, 2010, 11:00:00 PM
thanks for this, hopefully i get at least another year off of it with my new box!
Post by: lethalweaponx69 on January 20, 2010, 11:22:00 PM
Post by: bullka on January 20, 2010, 11:55:00 PM
Questions:
1. I read the tutorial and made a decision to give my box to a flasher and pay him 20 for flashing to LT. What should I request from him to give me after flashing? My original Liteon firmware which he will extract? The DVD key? What else could have value in the future?
2. What shell I do before flashing my xbox elite ( dated 2009-10-xx) ?
- Format disk? Will it erase all my profiles and game saves? (i don't care.. just want to know)
- connect to XBL and download all updates?
- put a disc with avi file to download codecs?
- do I need to create a local profile or retrieve XBL gamertag before flashing?
3. What shall I do after flashing? Just retrieve my gamertag, login to XBL, play and pray?
4. Could anybody give an example of the game releases which are with SSv2 and splitvid. I downloaded few days ago few images (DiRT 2 XBOX360-STRANGE and Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 2 Xbox360 RF-TL) and all of them with SSv1 (at least abgx shows that). Please name the releases which are SS OK and splitvid OK. I will download them and will see how it should look in abgx.
Post by: doop on January 21, 2010, 12:20:00 AM
QUOTE(bullka @ Jan 21 2010, 08:55 AM)
4. Could anybody give an example of the game releases which are with SSv2 and splitvid. I downloaded few days ago few images (DiRT 2 XBOX360-STRANGE and Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 2 Xbox360 RF-TL) and all of them with SSv1 (at least abgx shows that). Please name the releases which are SS OK and splitvid OK. I will download them and will see how it should look in abgx.
Naughty Naughty.... No warez speak on here.... me thinks youre banned
Post by: bullka on January 21, 2010, 12:28:00 AM
QUOTE(doop @ Jan 21 2010, 09:20 AM)
Naughty Naughty.... No warez speak on here.... me thinks youre banned (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
Thanks for note.
Just didn't know the rules (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Questions 1-3 are still valid (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Post by: ImpactPlayer on January 21, 2010, 12:28:00 AM
QUOTE(bullka @ Jan 21 2010, 01:55 AM)
I have a new xbox. Never touched with 1.61. And now I'm connected and play original games online.
Questions:
1. I read the tutorial and made a decision to give my box to a flasher and pay him 20 for flashing to LT. What should I request from him to give me after flashing? My original Liteon firmware which he will extract? The DVD key? What else could have value in the future?
2. What shell I do before flashing my xbox elite ( dated 2009-10-xx) ?
- Format disk? Will it erase all my profiles and game saves? (i don't care.. just want to know)
- connect to XBL and download all updates?
- put a disc with avi file to download codecs?
- do I need to create a local profile or retrieve XBL gamertag before flashing?
3. What shall I do after flashing? Just retrieve my gamertag, login to XBL, play and pray?
4. Could anybody give an example of the game releases which are with SSv2 and splitvid. I downloaded few days ago few images (DiRT 2 XBOX360-STRANGE and Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 2 Xbox360 RF-TL) and all of them with SSv1 (at least abgx shows that). Please name the releases which are SS OK and splitvid OK. I will download them and will see how it should look in abgx.
The game releases that are SS v2 and splitvid are the ones you actually bought. In your case, none.
Post by: RedFarmer on January 21, 2010, 12:47:00 AM
Maybe calibration data and such is lost since long but if i just can make it appear and function like stock FW?
Post by: Redsquirrel on January 21, 2010, 01:24:00 AM
Post by: sdeens2009 on January 21, 2010, 01:37:00 AM
1) get a spare Samsung MS28 ($40), Benq, or Lite-ON (but not Hitachis ) and use the Ixtreme 1.6--0800 firmware. Samsung are the easiest to flash,and you do NOT need the DVD key for the 0800 firmware for purposes of dump extraction.
* you all should be retiring those KREON drives and any old game images dumped with them
2) extract or dump the game via a cheap USB-SATA thumb stick (mine cost $5) using default settings of: Schtrom360Xtract--4.1
3) get a one-month "non re-newable" Game Pass for "unlimited" rentals at Blockbuster Video for $21 and checkout for free as many 360 games they have on their shelf and dump one or two games daily. This is how I rebuilt my entire libary in the last month for the cost of $21 plus about 50 blank Verbatim media ($75). I already owned the Connectivy Kit and a spare MS28 Samsung drive.
* I would avoid using XBOX Backup Creator v2.9.0306 (latest version is too old anyway) until a newer version is released by RedLine99, but Schtrom4.1 is better IMHO at dump extraction and it has always wisely supported spilitvid from day #1 and wave3/4 games.
This will guarantee closest possible 100% dump of the original game and maintain the integrity of the SS v2, Splitvid etc.
Schtrom360Xtract: 4.1 was specifically released for Ixtreme 1.6 compliance using that 0800 firmware and these newer wave 3/4games escpecially, but it also seems to dump fine the wave 5 games perfectly as well (like Assasin Creed 2)
YOU SHOULD STOP USING SCENE RELEASES AND abgx360gui v1.02 NOW THAT THIS NEW LT FIRMWARE IS NOT PERFORMING ANY INTEGRITY STEALTH CHECKS (its lean and mean).
Incidently, alot of these scene release are KREON based and I would not trust that abgx database anyway
This post has been edited by sdeens2009: Jan 21 2010, 09:40 AM
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 21, 2010, 02:22:00 AM
QUOTE(sdeens2009 @ Jan 21 2010, 09:37 AM)
If you have a Connectivity Kit (any version) or way to boot up any stock 360 DVD, and you previously were ripping your games with KREON, them the new DEFACTO STANDARD and smartest way to dump our games moving forward into 2010 is as follows:
1) get a spare Samsung MS28 ($40), Benq, or Lite-ON (but not Hitachis ) and use the Ixtreme 1.6--0800 firmware. Samsung are the easiest to flash,and you do NOT need the DVD key for the 0800 firmware for purposes of dump extraction.
* you all should be retiring those KREON drives and any old game images dumped with them
2) extract or dump the game via a cheap USB-SATA thumb stick (mine cost $5) using default settings of: Schtrom360Xtract--4.1
3) get a one-month "non re-newable" Game Pass for "unlimited" rentals at Blockbuster Video for $21 and checkout for free as many 360 games they have on their shelf and dump one or two games daily. This is how I rebuilt my entire libary in the last month for the cost of $21 plus about 50 blank Verbatim media ($75). I already owned the Connectivy Kit and a spare MS28 Samsung drive.
* I would avoid using XBOX Backup Creator v2.9.0306 (latest version is too old anyway) until a newer version is released by RedLine99, but Schtrom4.1 is better IMHO at dump extraction and it has always wisely supported spilitvid from day #1 and wave3/4 games.
This will guarantee closest possible 100% dump of the original game and maintain the integrity of the SS v2, Splitvid etc.
Schtrom360Xtract: 4.1 was specifically released for Ixtreme 1.6 compliance using that 0800 firmware and these newer wave 3/4games escpecially, but it also seems to dump fine the wave 5 games perfectly as well (like Assasin Creed 2)
YOU SHOULD STOP USING SCENE RELEASES AND abgx360gui v1.02 NOW THAT THIS NEW LT FIRMWARE IS NOT PERFORMING ANY INTEGRITY STEALTH CHECKS (its lean and mean).
Incidently, alot of these scene release are KREON based and I would not trust that abgx database anyway
Many of my own dumps on a 0800 drive match the abgx360 database perfectly so it can't be that far off. I have been re-ripping all of my games to get them to comply with SSv2 (They were all splitvid already).
You might want to re-neg on the Blockbuster idea since it could be deemed piracy since you don't own the originals. There is not a backup I have that I don't own the original to.
Post by: diab0lik on January 21, 2010, 04:10:00 AM
Glad I patiently waited for this, and I can't wait to finally play some MW2 online!
Now if only all the people talking ish would do something other than download for free and run away without thanking anybody, we might actually get somewhere.
Thanks for all the hard work!
Post by: asoftlad on January 21, 2010, 05:51:00 AM
Regardless, I'd hazard to say that this project would never have been accomplished and distributed freely without the resource support provided by team x or any other willing benefactor, prepared to support the scene.
I have happily donated to team jungle as both a thank you and in support of future development.
A big congrats and thanks to all involved for keeping the cat at bay, for now at least...
Post by: Datenshiz on January 21, 2010, 06:00:00 AM
The SATA dump was probably not the reason why the firmware got detected, and i would have left it in LT, based on its usefulness. I don't see the SATA dump code being used except during the actual dump. Either way, IF this Ixtreme LT firmware ever gets updated, there's gonna be a flood of whine about the MRA dump.
I'll stick with 1.61 no stealth and offline playing for a while.
Post by: pablex on January 21, 2010, 06:07:00 AM
QUOTE(DeadlyRox @ Jan 20 2010, 10:32 PM)
Lol u will know if u are going to be banned soon (maybe next November).
I have a lot of friends with, ixtreme 1.51, 1.61. 1.6, 1.6 non stealth and 1.4 non stealth online yet since a few weeks ago lol but for sure they are flagged until the next ban wave ? or put in into stream again ?
Well, who knows what's going to happen and I don't care I will enjoy every day until I get banned, if that happen.
Post by: saleem_hacks_360s on January 21, 2010, 06:14:00 AM
QUOTE(asoftlad @ Jan 21 2010, 12:51 PM)
The cynical side of me sees the correlation between team x support and the initial release only supporting lite-ons, as one would need hardware to mod these drives.
Regardless, I'd hazard to say that this project would never have been accomplished and distributed freely without the resource support provided by team x or any other willing benefactor, prepared to support the scene.
I have happily donated to team jungle as both a thank you and in support of future development.
A big congrats and thanks to all involved for keeping the cat at bay, for now at least...
Regardless, I'd hazard to say that this project would never have been accomplished and distributed freely without the resource support provided by team x or any other willing benefactor, prepared to support the scene.
I have happily donated to team jungle as both a thank you and in support of future development.
A big congrats and thanks to all involved for keeping the cat at bay, for now at least...
apparently there is no team jungle there is only one person c4eva,team x are just grovellers,without the fw they get nothing,their dvdrom lt crap and kits wont sell,without c4eva they are nothing and have nothing where xbox360 dvdrom is concerned.
so we had to buy the fw,just under where it gets sold you see "our amazing piece of lt shit to make it a more pleasant experience"
so now it aint getting sold no more they cant pug their wares on the sites as easily.seems to me the only support they give is thanks and small donations as the fw sells their products for the dvdrom,now the sites cant sell it they cant pug the products as easily so they whine.see,they call people whiners then have digs at so called wannabes who crack code,ie:geremia who is not a wannabe.
if team x did not have a site or a product they would just be bedroom flashers nothing more and nothing less.
Post by: UnnA^ on January 21, 2010, 06:15:00 AM
QUOTE(Datenshiz @ Jan 21 2010, 09:00 PM)
I'm very happy about the release of LT, and thankful to anyone involved in its making. However, the MRA method for dumping firmware which is now required for all LiteOn's(after flashing with LT), i find it somewhat troublesome, are they saying for the 7xxx series the firmware can no longer be dumped using a serial cable? that seems odd, and would be a software limitation and not hardware as it is for the later models.
The SATA dump was probably not the reason why the firmware got detected, and i would have left it in LT, based on its usefulness. I don't see the SATA dump code being used except during the actual dump. Either way, IF this Ixtreme LT firmware ever gets updated, there's gonna be a flood of whine about the MRA dump.
I'll stick with 1.61 no stealth and offline playing for a while.
What the fuck are you on about.....
Post by: eyric101 on January 21, 2010, 06:41:00 AM
QUOTE(UnnA^ @ Jan 21 2010, 08:15 AM)
What the fuck are you on about.....
+1...made my head hurt...
Post by: Kloud on January 21, 2010, 06:43:00 AM
QUOTE(Datenshiz @ Jan 21 2010, 07:00 AM)
I'm very happy about the release of LT, and thankful to anyone involved in its making. However, the MRA method for dumping firmware which is now required for all LiteOn's(after flashing with LT), i find it somewhat troublesome, are they saying for the 7xxx series the firmware can no longer be dumped using a serial cable? that seems odd, and would be a software limitation and not hardware as it is for the later models.
I'm wondering the same thing as the above poster. I can still extract keys in 74950 Lite-Ons with the probe, and 83950v1 without opening the drive. 83950v2 and 9xxxx drives require soldering. Dunno what you're doing!
Post by: firebuddie on January 21, 2010, 06:54:00 AM
QUOTE(pakigno @ Jan 20 2010, 09:01 AM)
really big THANKS to C4EVA, TEAM-Junlge and all the involved peoples in LT project
Jimmdome/anyone@ thought about using old friend hex editor to copy calibration data from orig formware into the LT firmware hack then just flash as normal? Myabe Geremia or someone knows where this calibration data is stored or you can do a file compare in hex editor to confidently locate it???
Just thought it might be a workaround, you know like Germia's lt-free workaround which involved hacking the LT firmware hack...
Post by: logicwatch on January 21, 2010, 06:56:00 AM
QUOTE(asoftlad @ Jan 21 2010, 12:51 PM)
The cynical side of me sees the correlation between team x support and the initial release only supporting lite-ons, as one would need hardware to mod these drives.
very good point I had not thought about that !
it certainly makes you wonder if LT will ever appear for any other drives once you see the partnership ?
Post by: halleluia on January 21, 2010, 07:59:00 AM
Post by: herbert7890 on January 21, 2010, 08:15:00 AM
QUOTE(Datenshiz @ Jan 21 2010, 02:00 PM)
I'm very happy about the release of LT, and thankful to anyone involved in its making. However, the MRA method for dumping firmware which is now required for all LiteOn's(after flashing with LT), i find it somewhat troublesome, are they saying for the 7xxx series the firmware can no longer be dumped using a serial cable? that seems odd, and would be a software limitation and not hardware as it is for the later models.
The SATA dump was probably not the reason why the firmware got detected, and i would have left it in LT, based on its usefulness. I don't see the SATA dump code being used except during the actual dump. Either way, IF this Ixtreme LT firmware ever gets updated, there's gonna be a flood of whine about the MRA dump.
I'll stick with 1.61 no stealth and offline playing for a while.
I believe all we gotta do is save our dummy, inquiry, and key before we flash with LT and we will be able to update or reflash if a new version comes (correct me if im wrong). I say that cause the problems with the 93850 werent about flashing itself, was about getting the key.....
This post has been edited by herbert7890: Jan 21 2010, 04:15 PM
Post by: teknofranko on January 21, 2010, 08:24:00 AM
Post by: sdeens2009 on January 21, 2010, 08:39:00 AM
They need to tell us if the 8955 kernel had some hidden checks for firmware spoofing strings. I never heard of that and even If that were true, it would have been big news long ago.
Not that many people spoof anyway, so why remove this capability in JungleFlasher v1.70?
Is there written documentation anywhere that states the logic behind this decision and whether they are planning to add support for it in the next Jungleflasher update.
and the LITE-ON calibration isssue is not a concern to me, its being blown out of proportion.
This post has been edited by sdeens2009: Jan 21 2010, 04:43 PM
Post by: LittleBH on January 21, 2010, 08:57:00 AM
QUOTE(sdeens2009 @ Jan 21 2010, 03:39 PM)
Why does LT NOT support spoofing into Samsungs, Hitachis or Benqs?
They need to tell us if the 8955 kernel had some hidden checks for firmware spoofing strings. I never heard of that and even If that were true, it would have been big news long ago.
Not that many people spoof anyway, so why remove this capability in JungleFlasher v1.70?
Is there written documentation anywhere that states the logic behind this decision and whether they are planning to add support for it in the next Jungleflasher update.
The capability to spoof has not been removed from JF! (try it using ix 1.61 etc)
The capabilty was removed from the firmware! - This is to ensure that LT is as close to stock fw as possible!
Spoofing drive ID strings was an added feature of previous iXtreme FW's
So when all additional features were removed - the ability to spoof was removed with it!
Post by: yousty on January 21, 2010, 09:05:00 AM
Post by: ATHiEST on January 21, 2010, 09:51:00 AM
About team executer message:
first, it's not a leaked pre-release demo, Geremia got LT as gift from ban-guard (as proof prior to buy 1000 quantity) and an LT bought from infinitydreams, were all the same fw.
Team executer changed ethic so quickly?
http://team-xecuter....ead.php?t=50306
Post by: Jimmydome on January 21, 2010, 09:55:00 AM
QUOTE(firebuddie @ Jan 21 2010, 08:54 AM)
Jimmdome/anyone@ thought about using old friend hex editor to copy calibration data from orig formware into the LT firmware hack then just flash as normal? Myabe Geremia or someone knows where this calibration data is stored or you can do a file compare in hex editor to confidently locate it???
Just thought it might be a workaround, you know like Germia's lt-free workaround which involved hacking the LT firmware hack...
the method of spoofing your dummy.bin into original FW they provide, save to file then spoofing that into LT seems to solve the calibration data problem. the idea that all calibration data is specific to the individual unit is kind of crazy since in mass production that is rarely the case.
Post by: OggyUK on January 21, 2010, 09:57:00 AM
This post has been edited by OggyUK: Jan 21 2010, 05:59 PM
Post by: cyber75 on January 21, 2010, 10:00:00 AM
Post by: impimpin206 on January 21, 2010, 10:14:00 AM
QUOTE(cyber75 @ Jan 21 2010, 09:00 AM)
When is the firmware for benq drives out cant wait to get back on live
No ETA has been announced
Post by: Obveron on January 21, 2010, 10:29:00 AM
Odds are, you used the serial or sata method of retrieving a dummy.bin, then you replaced the entire FW with a IX FW, meaning you've lost your unique stock FW.
TJ recommends having stock FW before making system updates, but if you've already flashed with IX, you probably don't have your unique stock FW.
Now you can use the stock FW from another drive of the same model, and merely inject you drive key etc (dummy.bin) from your unique drive. This will put your drive back to stock, EXCEPT it won't have the unique calibration data that existed only in YOUR original FW.
Noone has been very clear about the significance of using calibration data from another drive. Some think the worst that could happen is the drive laser might not work so well with the wrong calibration data. Others talk about it being less live safe. If you've used an older IX FW, without your calibration data, then the laser should continue to work if you flash back to a stock FW, or LT (without your unique calibration data).
as for what it may mean with performance checks from LIVE, I don't know. and i don't care to speculate. we need more info from the team.
This post has been edited by Obveron: Jan 21 2010, 06:30 PM
Post by: Annon on January 21, 2010, 10:40:00 AM
QUOTE(bullka @ Jan 21 2010, 07:55 AM)
I have a new xbox. Never touched with 1.61. And now I'm connected and play original games online.
Questions:
1. I read the tutorial and made a decision to give my box to a flasher and pay him 20 for flashing to LT. What should I request from him to give me after flashing? My original Liteon firmware which he will extract? The DVD key? What else could have value in the future?
2. What shell I do before flashing my xbox elite ( dated 2009-10-xx) ?
- Format disk? Will it erase all my profiles and game saves? (i don't care.. just want to know)
- connect to XBL and download all updates?
- put a disc with avi file to download codecs?
- do I need to create a local profile or retrieve XBL gamertag before flashing?
3. What shall I do after flashing? Just retrieve my gamertag, login to XBL, play and pray?
4. Could anybody give an example of the game releases which are with SSv2 and splitvid. I downloaded few days ago few images (DiRT 2 XBOX360-STRANGE and Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 2 Xbox360 RF-TL) and all of them with SSv1 (at least abgx shows that). Please name the releases which are SS OK and splitvid OK. I will download them and will see how it should look in abgx.
1. The only thing that matters to a liteon is the key (DUMMY.bin, key.bin, Identify.bin, Inquiry.bin).
2. the only thing you touch when you flash is the drive and its firmware, nothing else is affected. After the flash the xbox works exactly like any other unflashed xbox, and the only ting you should care about is what you put in it.
3. yes, but be pessimistic.
Post by: hambrook on January 21, 2010, 10:41:00 AM
Will let a few people try this with their new consoles before dashing out to buy an arcade to have another go!
Post by: ochentay4 on January 21, 2010, 10:43:00 AM
QUOTE(sdeens2009 @ Jan 21 2010, 05:37 AM)
If you have a Connectivity Kit (any version) or way to boot up any stock 360 DVD, and you previously were ripping your games with KREON, them the new DEFACTO STANDARD and smartest way to dump our games moving forward into 2010 is as follows:
1) get a spare Samsung MS28 ($40), Benq, or Lite-ON (but not Hitachis ) and use the Ixtreme 1.6--0800 firmware. Samsung are the easiest to flash,and you do NOT need the DVD key for the 0800 firmware for purposes of dump extraction.
* you all should be retiring those KREON drives and any old game images dumped with them
2) extract or dump the game via a cheap USB-SATA thumb stick (mine cost $5) using default settings of: Schtrom360Xtract--4.1
3) get a one-month "non re-newable" Game Pass for "unlimited" rentals at Blockbuster Video for $21 and checkout for free as many 360 games they have on their shelf and dump one or two games daily. This is how I rebuilt my entire libary in the last month for the cost of $21 plus about 50 blank Verbatim media ($75). I already owned the Connectivy Kit and a spare MS28 Samsung drive.
* I would avoid using XBOX Backup Creator v2.9.0306 (latest version is too old anyway) until a newer version is released by RedLine99, but Schtrom4.1 is better IMHO at dump extraction and it has always wisely supported spilitvid from day #1 and wave3/4 games.
This will guarantee closest possible 100% dump of the original game and maintain the integrity of the SS v2, Splitvid etc.
Schtrom360Xtract: 4.1 was specifically released for Ixtreme 1.6 compliance using that 0800 firmware and these newer wave 3/4games escpecially, but it also seems to dump fine the wave 5 games perfectly as well (like Assasin Creed 2)
YOU SHOULD STOP USING SCENE RELEASES AND abgx360gui v1.02 NOW THAT THIS NEW LT FIRMWARE IS NOT PERFORMING ANY INTEGRITY STEALTH CHECKS (its lean and mean).
Incidently, alot of these scene release are KREON based and I would not trust that abgx database anyway
Holy crap, this is the most pirate post I ever read...
Post by: zikronix on January 21, 2010, 10:56:00 AM
Now I've traveled across half the internet to be here and to see about this banning. I daresay some of you might have heard some of the more extravagant rumors about what my plans are. I just thought you'd like to hear it from me. This is the face, it's no great mystery. I'm a modder, ladies and gentlemen. I have numerous mods spread across the internet. I have many firmwares playing a many thousand backups per day. I like to think of myself as a modder. As a modder I'd hope that you'll forgive just good old-fashioned plain speaking. Now this work that we do is very much an enterprise. I flash side by side with my bro J.H., I think one or two of you might have had you drive flashed by him already. I encourage my customers to bring their friends as well. Of course it makes for an ever so much more rewarding life for them. Modding means voiding warranties. Voiding warranties means homebrew. So wherever we flash, flashing is a necessity, and we're just so happy to take care of that. So let's build a wonderful relationship on the internet. This homebrew is the future that we strive for and so we should have the very best of things. Now something else, and please don't be insulted if I speak about this-- firmware. Let's talk about firmware. Now to my mind, it's an abomination to consider that any modder, flasher or hacker in this magnificent country of ours should have to look upon litetouch as a luxury. We're going to flash iXtreme here. iXtreme means banning, banning means no xbox live. We're going to be undetectable here where before it just simply was impossible. You're going to have more backups than you know what to do with. Backups be coming right out of your ears, ma'am. Firmware. Homebrew, Backups, Live. These are just a few of the things we can offer you, and I assure you ladies and gentlemen, that if we do flash litetouch, and I think there's a very good chance that we will, this community of yours will not only survive, it will flourish
Post by: Datenshiz on January 21, 2010, 11:14:00 AM
Quoted from Jungleflasher 0.1.70 tutorial.
QUOTE
If your Drive has been previously flashed with iXtreme LT - then you will no longer be able to use 74850C or 83850C v1 or 'dummy-from-iXtreme' methods to retrieve dummy.bin! A full dump can still be performed using MRA method
Post by: xboxdawg on January 21, 2010, 12:23:00 PM
I realize I may have to rebackup my originals to make sure they are split vid and ss v2. But do we really need to get a samsung drive and not use Kreon (and xbox backup creator) any more?
Is there a consensus for this?
Post by: bullka on January 21, 2010, 12:38:00 PM
QUOTE(zikronix @ Jan 21 2010, 07:56 PM)
There will be bannings (Quotes from the movie)
Now I've traveled across half the internet to be here and to see about this banning. I daresay some of you might have heard some of the more extravagant rumors about what my plans are. I just thought you'd like to hear it from me. This is the face, it's no great mystery. I'm a modder, ladies and gentlemen. I have numerous mods spread across the internet. I have many firmwares playing a many thousand backups per day. I like to think of myself as a modder. As a modder I'd hope that you'll forgive just good old-fashioned plain speaking. Now this work that we do is very much an enterprise. I flash side by side with my bro J.H., I think one or two of you might have had you drive flashed by him already. I encourage my customers to bring their friends as well. Of course it makes for an ever so much more rewarding life for them. Modding means voiding warranties. Voiding warranties means homebrew. So wherever we flash, flashing is a necessity, and we're just so happy to take care of that. So let's build a wonderful relationship on the internet. This homebrew is the future that we strive for and so we should have the very best of things. Now something else, and please don't be insulted if I speak about this-- firmware. Let's talk about firmware. Now to my mind, it's an abomination to consider that any modder, flasher or hacker in this magnificent country of ours should have to look upon litetouch as a luxury. We're going to flash iXtreme here. iXtreme means banning, banning means no xbox live. We're going to be undetectable here where before it just simply was impossible. You're going to have more backups than you know what to do with. Backups be coming right out of your ears, ma'am. Firmware. Homebrew, Backups, Live. These are just a few of the things we can offer you, and I assure you ladies and gentlemen, that if we do flash litetouch, and I think there's a very good chance that we will, this community of yours will not only survive, it will flourish
Guys.. what are you smoking out there?
Post by: bhazard on January 21, 2010, 12:57:00 PM
QUOTE(xboxdawg @ Jan 21 2010, 02:23 PM)
Do the rest of you agree with him about not using the Kreon drives anymore???
I realize I may have to rebackup my originals to make sure they are split vid and ss v2. But do we really need to get a samsung drive and not use Kreon (and xbox backup creator) any more?
Is there a consensus for this?
What he said. What makes Kreon a risk now with schtrom4.1?
Post by: impimpin206 on January 21, 2010, 01:07:00 PM
QUOTE(lethalweaponx69 @ Jan 21 2010, 12:03 PM)
I have a unbanned system that came with a samsung drive w/ stock firmware, but i want to swap it for a benQ w/ stock firmware and go online, can i get banned for this?
There's no BenQ firmware yet. But there will be, and when there is, it probably would NOT be safe. You could be the first guy to try it and report back your results, doing the community a favor... or you could wait it out for some other foolish sucka to try
Good luck in your adventures!
Post by: pablex on January 21, 2010, 02:00:00 PM
QUOTE(neu318 @ Jan 21 2010, 01:48 PM)
Long time follower since the original xbox. Anyways, thanks JF and C4eva for everything, great work. Was on IX 1.6, I haven't been on live since the november bans, went home yesterday to update before flashing and got banned. Maybe it's cause I played Forza 3 before it was released who knows. I was a little upset I was banned but now I'm over it, no more waiting around to play games until the release date which is cool as I have already obtained mass effect 2 (hope it's ok for me to say that here If not I'll delete it). So yeah I'm ok with being banned I had a good run. Thanks team
I think this is one of the main reasons behind the ban hammer, play games prior release, is interesting that MS added the capability to see saves with their date before the ban hammer, I think they can track these saves.
This could be one of the points they check when they flag the consoles.
So please people don't play games prior release.
Post by: Wompa164 on January 21, 2010, 03:00:00 PM
QUOTE(bullka @ Jan 21 2010, 01:38 PM)
Guys.. what are you smoking out there?
Seconded. What the hell is he talking about?
Post by: xboxdawg on January 21, 2010, 03:14:00 PM
They were backup from the originals with Xbox Backup Creator 2.09 or whatever the latest version is.
Thanks,
XBD
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 21, 2010, 03:16:00 PM
QUOTE(xboxdawg @ Jan 21 2010, 11:14 PM)
I did a stealth check with Schtrom360Xtract 4.1, it says my backups are Splitvid. How do I know if they are SS v2?
They were backup from the originals with Xbox Backup Creator 2.09 or whatever the latest version is.
Thanks,
XBD
Were they ripped with an 0800 drive or Kreon drive? Kreons drives do NOT make SSv2 ISOs.
Post by: robo989 on January 21, 2010, 03:39:00 PM
QUOTE(pablex @ Jan 21 2010, 11:00 PM)
I think this is one of the main reasons behind the ban hammer, play games prior release, is interesting that MS added the capability to see saves with their date before the ban hammer, I think they can track these saves.
This could be one of the points they check when they flag the consoles.
So please people don't play games prior release.
Oh please be quiet!
It's posts like yours that just keep stupid rumours\speculation going.
Yeah...uhhh thanx for the warning. Total bs.
QUOTE(vinny13 @ Jan 22 2010, 12:20 AM)
I have a 360 with a Samsung drive that has been offline since before the bans started cause it was broken. When I fixed it I flashed it too and might have put only 2 games in it for like a minute each just to test them, both safe games. Then the bans started and I flashed it back to stock, still never been online. You guys think I'm screwed regardless of being stock or LT?
Nobody really knows. Anyone answering will be guessing, and it won't be educated guessing it will be complete out an out rubbish...with some half arsed formulated reason for their "concrete" assertions.
Weigh up if being able to install games to your hard drive is important...onlh u can decide that.
OR
1 idea would be to try and fill in the online form for a repair, type in your serial number and see if your console is banned and the form refuses to process your serial number.
...OT....You're in the wrong thread anyway!
Post by: bowzerb on January 21, 2010, 03:43:00 PM
Post by: chorizo1 on January 21, 2010, 03:51:00 PM
QUOTE(bowzerb @ Jan 21 2010, 04:43 PM)
Hey just a quick question I skimmed threw the last 30 pages and couldnt seem to find an answer to this, I bought a new arcade bundle that was made before august 12 2009 and got it flashed out of the box with no updates to the dashboard to ixtremev1.6.. If I try to update the dashboard now I will be banned. Will I be able to get the new ixtreme LT installed then be able to update the dashboard and play online? Or have I screwed my self with not updateing before I got ixtremev1.6?
damn..even I'm too lazy to paste my double facepalm photo....
Post by: impimpin206 on January 21, 2010, 03:52:00 PM
QUOTE(bowzerb @ Jan 21 2010, 02:43 PM)
Hey just a quick question I skimmed threw the last 30 pages and couldnt seem to find an answer to this, I bought a new arcade bundle that was made before august 12 2009 and got it flashed out of the box with no updates to the dashboard to ixtremev1.6.. If I try to update the dashboard now I will be banned. Will I be able to get the new ixtreme LT installed then be able to update the dashboard and play online? Or have I screwed my self with not updateing before I got ixtremev1.6?
Flash back to stock with the files included in the LT release. Update console. Flash to LT. Enjoy.
Post by: ckeays on January 21, 2010, 04:08:00 PM
QUOTE(impimpin206 @ Jan 21 2010, 05:52 PM)
Flash back to stock with the files included in the LT release. Update console. Flash to LT. Enjoy.
what he said, EXCEPT - if you went online with the older hacked firmware your console may be flagged. If your console is flagged, NOTHING will stop the ban, not even stock firmware on your drive.
I think a lot of newbies still don't know to check the ISO's with abgx360 using the latest version, and allowing the program to go online and update its database.
A good tutorial on how to set up abgx360 (and run it) might be a good idea for some. Anyone have any links?
Post by: alvarado52 on January 21, 2010, 04:23:00 PM
Also, i dunno how safe the f/w is, but i think anyone who thinks they are flagged and installed that update should just cut their losses. A friend of mine who has been in this game for awhile drew a conclusion that the WPA2 update essentially 'opened up' the dvd drive for MS to see, which led to bans. Could be right, could be wrong, but if he is even half correct, anyone who applied this update and flashes with LT, only to get banned, puts the whole f/w at risk, because it would give MS a peak at the FW at work, even if for a moment.
Maybe, maybe not. Just my two cents.
Post by: zikronix on January 21, 2010, 04:51:00 PM
QUOTE(bullka @ Jan 21 2010, 08:38 PM)
Guys.. what are you smoking out there?
i was bored
Post by: xboxdawg on January 21, 2010, 05:00:00 PM
XBD
Post by: impimpin206 on January 21, 2010, 05:27:00 PM
QUOTE(zikronix @ Jan 21 2010, 03:51 PM)
i was bored
and retarded
Post by: ssj3goku on January 21, 2010, 05:31:00 PM
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 21, 2010, 05:53:00 PM
QUOTE(xboxdawg @ Jan 22 2010, 01:00 AM)
I backed up my originals with a Kreon drive. So basically you're saying a kreon drive won't do the ss v2? So I guess we'll have to get a samsung drive to do ripping to be safe (or as safe as it gets) online.
XBD
The kreon drive is not capable of dumping with SSv2. Only 0800 drives are.
The difference between SSv1 and 2 is SSv1 uses a known angle value and a small jitter is applied to it where as SSv2 takes an actual angle measurement on the disc by taking 2 measurements.
Everyone should just retire their Kreon Drives and buy a connectivity kit and a spare 360 drive and use the 0800 firmware. This is the best way to get a close an original copy as you can get.
I have already taken my entire 360 library and re-dumped it with my 0800 drive. Now I have to re-burn them all. Oh well I can still use the old copies on my banned, uncrippled, system.
Post by: ponydawg on January 21, 2010, 07:51:00 PM
Post by: BoNg420 on January 21, 2010, 07:55:00 PM
QUOTE(f575gtc @ Jan 21 2010, 09:45 PM)
any reported bannings from LT with a fresh 360?
The firmware has only been out for a few days, you probably wont hear about any bannings until around spring time, usually MS slaps the banhammer out around spring and fall.
Post by: Racing.Ray on January 21, 2010, 08:49:00 PM
Thanks a million TJ and C4eva for this!
Now what I wonder is when M$ brings out a new update and starts flagging again, so we know when to stay off Live until a new firmware is out
Post by: hollowtip on January 21, 2010, 09:23:00 PM
QUOTE(ssj3goku @ Jan 21 2010, 04:31 PM)
if you want to be safe on live forget the flashing the drive.the only way to be truly safe is to keep it stock. im so tired of reading will i get banned if i flash my system?no firmware has been safe yet.the ban hammer always comes down and the claims of being safe on live are a joke thats what every damn release has claimed so far and all have been proven wrong. im glad there is people out there that make it possible to do and deserve credit for the work they do but all this safe on live talk is bullshit you will be banned eventually but hey you might be a lucky one of the few that go undetected
if you get 6 months (which is not an unreasonable bet) off this firmware and revisions of it, it's worth it. Myself and a lot of other FW modders avoided the hammer for in excess of a year (some even past 2 years) while on live. 360's are so cheap now even if you do get banned, it's not a big deal.
I think it's funny when people make this argument. While there is no guarantee that this firmware is indeed safe on live, There's no guarantee that it isn't either, or will be detected ever. It's really pointless to speculate.
Post by: pablex on January 21, 2010, 09:32:00 PM
QUOTE(robo989 @ Jan 21 2010, 03:39 PM)
Oh please be quiet!
It's posts like yours that just keep stupid rumours\speculation going.
Yeah...uhhh thanx for the warning. Total bs.
Nobody really knows. Anyone answering will be guessing, and it won't be educated guessing it will be complete out an out rubbish...with some half arsed formulated reason for their "concrete" assertions.
Weigh up if being able to install games to your hard drive is important...onlh u can decide that.
OR
1 idea would be to try and fill in the online form for a repair, type in your serial number and see if your console is banned and the form refuses to process your serial number.
...OT....You're in the wrong thread anyway!
I am not trying to begin a rumor, I just wanted to share my opinion, which makes sense to my.
I just imagine the WTF face that M$ make when they see, people playing a game 10 days before release.
QUOTE(hollowtip @ Jan 21 2010, 09:23 PM)
if you get 6 months (which is not an unreasonable bet) off this firmware and revisions of it, it's worth it. Myself and a lot of other FW modders avoided the hammer for in excess of a year (some even past 2 years) while on live. 360's are so cheap now even if you do get banned, it's not a big deal.
I think it's funny when people make this argument. While there is no guarantee that this firmware is indeed safe on live, There's no guarantee that it isn't either, or will be detected ever. It's really pointless to speculate.
+5
Totally Agree
I just to be happy an play online while this FW last, not being questioning if it works or not, just think how much money is saved playing backups, if anybody saves half of the price of every backup probably when they are banned, already saved more than the cost of a brand new console
Post by: t0m on January 21, 2010, 10:30:00 PM
QUOTE(hollowtip @ Jan 22 2010, 05:23 AM)
if you get 6 months (which is not an unreasonable bet) off this firmware and revisions of it, it's worth it. Myself and a lot of other FW modders avoided the hammer for in excess of a year (some even past 2 years) while on live. 360's are so cheap now even if you do get banned, it's not a big deal.
I think it's funny when people make this argument. While there is no guarantee that this firmware is indeed safe on live, There's no guarantee that it isn't either, or will be detected ever. It's really pointless to speculate.
i agree too. i have never been banned. been using since the first fw mods and always tried to be up on current news and reasonably safe with my rips and methods. i was prolly flagged for last november, but the 360 i was using at that point rrod the day after the wpa2 update came out, so i am using an old machine from last summer, offline for now, until hitachi lt comes out.
anyway, thanks again team
Post by: bullka on January 22, 2010, 12:53:00 AM
- Do I need to play just with local Profile? Not Live?
- Can this local profile be copied and restored later if I want to format disk? Just not to loose my progress.
- I know it's not safe to play with LIVE gamertag even if I'm playing not online.
- Can game achievments be ever appended to my LIVE account? Probably not.
Or should I just play my backups connected to LIVE with my LIVE profile and cross my fingers to be undetectable?
Hi,
It's recommended to use backups with SS v2 and splitvid. At least it's believed that it's less risky.
But what to do if I have backups which I want to play but they're SSv1? Don't play at all? Or maybe create a local profile and play SSv1 backups with my LAN cable unplugged from Xbox?
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 22, 2010, 01:01:00 AM
Using splitvid and SSv2 is the safest.
You can use your LIVE gamertag. I still use mine even though my xbox was banned. They don't flag your gamertag, just you console.
Playing with a modified drive has a risk regardless of the precautions you take. They can make it less likely to get banned buy not impossible.
The only true way not to get your console banned is to simply not modify it. Plain and simple.
With the previous firmware, they were people who only played originals and still got banned.
Remember there is always a risk.
As for the local profile you can move it to a Memory Unit and then reformat your hard drive but since they don't log anything on the hard drive there really is no point.
This post has been edited by ccfman2004: Jan 22 2010, 09:02 AM
Post by: bullka on January 22, 2010, 01:56:00 AM
QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Jan 22 2010, 10:01 AM)
I would not play any risky backup on you new console, even if offline as the xbox can log stuff and transmit next time you connect to live.
Using splitvid and SSv2 is the safest.
You can use your LIVE gamertag. I still use mine even though my xbox was banned. They don't flag your gamertag, just you console.
Playing with a modified drive has a risk regardless of the precautions you take. They can make it less likely to get banned buy not impossible.
The only true way not to get your console banned is to simply not modify it. Plain and simple.
With the previous firmware, they were people who only played originals and still got banned.
Remember there is always a risk.
As for the local profile you can move it to a Memory Unit and then reformat your hard drive but since they don't log anything on the hard drive there really is no point.
If I play ssv1 games with my local profile.. so I gues everything will be logged in that local profile or not? Do you think console logs something as well?
I need more explanation on "You can use your LIVE gamertag. I still use mine even though my xbox was banned. They don't flag your gamertag, just you console."
Does that mean that if my console is banned I can still use XBL profile (log in) and record my achievements? I thought that if you're banned - you can't login to XBL.. and at the same time - you can't use your gamertag or XBL profile (unless in a new xbox).
Is that true?
If yes - that means that if you got banned you need to create a local profile and start all games/achievements from the beginning?
Correct?
Post by: phillyblunt420 on January 22, 2010, 02:05:00 AM
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 22, 2010, 02:12:00 AM
QUOTE(bullka @ Jan 22 2010, 09:56 AM)
If I play ssv1 games with my local profile.. so I gues everything will be logged in that local profile or not? Do you think console logs something as well?
I need more explanation on "You can use your LIVE gamertag. I still use mine even though my xbox was banned. They don't flag your gamertag, just you console."
Does that mean that if my console is banned I can still use XBL profile (log in) and record my achievements? I thought that if you're banned - you can't login to XBL.. and at the same time - you can't use your gamertag or XBL profile (unless in a new xbox).
Is that true?
If yes - that means that if you got banned you need to create a local profile and start all games/achievements from the beginning?
Correct?
The console can log anything Microsoft wants it to.
Only the console get banned is, you can still use your LIVE profile on a different xbox that's not banned is what I should have said. It's late where I am and I am a bit tired.
QUOTE(phillyblunt420 @ Jan 22 2010, 10:05 AM)
is it safe to install the games to the hard drive and go on live if your using the new LT firmware or is it safer to just play it off the cd because of the drive timing and stuff
Using a modified firmware has its risks. LT just minimizes them. It does not matter if you install the game to the hard drive or not. Installing to the hard drive just minimizes the use of the DVD drive thereby extending its life and possibly shortening loading times.
I only do it because the DVD drive is the loudest thing on my xbox. Installing the game keeps the drive nice and quiet.
Post by: phillyblunt420 on January 22, 2010, 02:29:00 AM
Post by: bullka on January 22, 2010, 02:32:00 AM
QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Jan 22 2010, 11:12 AM)
The console can log anything Microsoft wants it to.
Only the console get banned is, you can still use your LIVE profile on a different xbox that's not banned is what I should have said. It's late where I am and I am a bit tired.
Using a modified firmware has its risks. LT just minimizes them. It does not matter if you install the game to the hard drive or not. Installing to the hard drive just minimizes the use of the DVD drive thereby extending its life and possibly shortening loading times.
I only do it because the DVD drive is the loudest thing on my xbox. Installing the game keeps the drive nice and quiet.
So please correct me if I'm wrong:
If I want to play a game until the end and not be banned in the middle of the game progress - I need to play that game in local profile. Correct?
Because if my xbox got banned - I won't be able to login to my LIVE profile and continue the game. Right?
Fallout3 is a long game... and I think I will play it till November. I just want not to loose the progress of the game when ban wave comes.
Need your comments.
Post by: Redsquirrel on January 22, 2010, 02:50:00 AM
If this firmware is based on the old benq firmware (1.41?) that didnt care for ss2 and no one seems to have been banned for that.
I was given a banned console - if i install c4eva 1.61 on that, will ALL future waves be allowed? Or just 4 and 5? Or should i stick to that unofficial 1.61 which apparently allows anything?
Post by: RichMR2 on January 22, 2010, 03:08:00 AM
QUOTE(Redsquirrel @ Jan 22 2010, 09:50 AM)
the ss1 vs ss2 thing is a bit annoying. If it really matters i think a lot of people are going to be caught out.
If this firmware is based on the old benq firmware (1.41?) that didnt care for ss2 and no one seems to have been banned for that.
I was given a banned console - if i install c4eva 1.61 on that, will ALL future waves be allowed? Or just 4 and 5? Or should i stick to that unofficial 1.61 which apparently allows anything?
If it's already banned just use a non stealth fw. It doesn't matter anymore if it's banned already.
AFAIK iXtreme LT is future proof as far as waves go as it no longer checks this bit and stops those users who weren't smart enough to check their discs first. LT has little to no protection as far as bad rips/burns go (just like it should be).
If people rip their games correctly and burn them correctly the ss2 thing wont be a problem. For everyone else, well, they should check what they are doing... it's only those pirates who may be at risk if I read everything correctly.
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 22, 2010, 03:13:00 AM
QUOTE(phillyblunt420 @ Jan 22 2010, 10:29 AM)
one last question sorry, so say I got a game and when i do abgx it comes up SS 1, is that a risky backup I should not play, is there a way to change the ss1 to ss 2 for example darksiders comes up ss1 in abgx so should I stay away from that?
The only way to get a SSv2 iso is to re-rip the game with a 0800 drive.
Post by: bullka on January 22, 2010, 03:26:00 AM
QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Jan 22 2010, 12:13 PM)
The only way to get a SSv2 iso is to re-rip the game with a 0800 drive.
Well... that means it will be hard to impossible to find an SS v2 rips of a bit older games (like Fallout3) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Coz warez boys will rip with SSv2 support only new games which are just released (like Army of Two 40th) or will be released... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Post by: Redsquirrel on January 22, 2010, 03:29:00 AM
QUOTE(RichMR2 @ Jan 22 2010, 12:08 PM)
If it's already banned just use a non stealth fw. It doesn't matter anymore if it's banned already.
AFAIK iXtreme LT is future proof as far as waves go as it no longer checks this bit and stops those users who weren't smart enough to check their discs first. LT has little to no protection as far as bad rips/burns go (just like it should be).
If people rip their games correctly and burn them correctly the ss2 thing wont be a problem. For everyone else, well, they should check what they are doing... it's only those pirates who may be at risk if I read everything correctly.
I might just use ixtreme LT then.
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 22, 2010, 03:29:00 AM
QUOTE(bullka @ Jan 22 2010, 11:26 AM)
Well... that means it will be hard to impossible to find an SS v2 rips of a bit older games (like Fallout3)
Coz warez boys will rip with SSv2 support only new games which are just released (like Army of Two 40th) or will be released...
Piracy talk is not allowed here.
Post by: Redsquirrel on January 22, 2010, 03:30:00 AM
QUOTE(bullka @ Jan 22 2010, 12:26 PM)
Well... that means it will be hard to impossible to find an SS v2 rips of a bit older games (like Fallout3) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Coz warez boys will rip with SSv2 support only new games which are just released (like Army of Two 40th) or will be released... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
I just have a feeling SSv2 really doesnt matter. But then again, I think im just gonna stay with the one modded console/one unmodified for online use.
Post by: bullka on January 22, 2010, 03:36:00 AM
QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Jan 22 2010, 12:29 PM)
Piracy talk is not allowed here.
Ooops
Sorry.
Post by: Kloud on January 22, 2010, 03:46:00 AM
QUOTE(bullka @ Jan 22 2010, 04:26 AM)
Well... that means it will be hard to impossible to find an SS v2 rips of a bit older games (like Fallout3) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Coz warez boys will rip with SSv2 support only new games which are just released (like Army of Two 40th) or will be released... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Why do you need to play Fallout 3 while connected to Live? The GOTY Edition has all the content packs, I'm not sure while you're worried about SSv2 on this game in particular. I'm sure with the popularity of alot of frequently played online games, some new rips will show up on the scene.
As changes in the scene occur, not all parts of it adapt as quickly as others. Be fortunate LT is out for the time being, and wait for a solution to develop. I will be, and thanks again c4eva and Team Xecuter!!
This post has been edited by Kloud: Jan 22 2010, 11:49 AM
Post by: ssj3goku on January 22, 2010, 05:50:00 AM
QUOTE(hollowtip @ Jan 22 2010, 04:23 AM)
if you get 6 months (which is not an unreasonable bet) off this firmware and revisions of it, it's worth it. Myself and a lot of other FW modders avoided the hammer for in excess of a year (some even past 2 years) while on live. 360's are so cheap now even if you do get banned, it's not a big deal.
I think it's funny when people make this argument. While there is no guarantee that this firmware is indeed safe on live, There's no guarantee that it isn't either, or will be detected ever. It's really pointless to speculate.
never said it wasnt worth it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) just tired of reading will i get banned (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) its a cat and mouse game no firmware to date has gone undetected and usually microsoft releases the updates in the spring and fall so you would most likely be safe till then who knows now im speculating if you want to be safe keep it stock period,unless like you stated that you dont care if it gets banned because of the price of the 360 but im one of the few i guess that think buying a 360 every six months is just not in the budget (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Post by: raff5 on January 22, 2010, 07:51:00 AM
i have backed all of these up previously and still have the image files on my pc.
as everyone will appreciate if i need to get ss2 compliance for all these games, and the only way i can do that is to use a dvd rom from a 360 that is flashed to work with the pc and re-rip all my games, it then creates a fair amount of work.
i have been reading various posts regarding LT and the compliance levels you need to ensure you are as safe as possible on xbox live.
so in an effort to make things simpler, isnt it possible to run the image files through abgx and use autofix to fix any non compliance issues including ss2.
also i used a kreon drive to do my backups from my originals, i know this doesnt do ss2 but only ss1, could i not continue to use the kreon and then run everything through abgx for compliance.
if i cant do these then i need to rip my 360 apart every time i buy a new game and flash the drive for pc use, rip the game, then flash it back to LT everytime. i would probably buy a spare drive, but still would be easier to use a kreon and abgx.
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 22, 2010, 08:06:00 AM
QUOTE(raff5 @ Jan 22 2010, 03:51 PM)
i have quite a few 360 games around 50 or so,
i have backed all of these up previously and still have the image files on my pc.
as everyone will appreciate if i need to get ss2 compliance for all these games, and the only way i can do that is to use a dvd rom from a 360 that is flashed to work with the pc and re-rip all my games, it then creates a fair amount of work.
i have been reading various posts regarding LT and the compliance levels you need to ensure you are as safe as possible on xbox live.
so in an effort to make things simpler, isnt it possible to run the image files through abgx and use autofix to fix any non compliance issues including ss2.
also i used a kreon drive to do my backups from my originals, i know this doesnt do ss2 but only ss1, could i not continue to use the kreon and then run everything through abgx for compliance.
if i cant do these then i need to rip my 360 apart every time i buy a new game and flash the drive for pc use, rip the game, then flash it back to LT everytime. i would probably buy a spare drive, but still would be easier to use a kreon and abgx.
Kreon Drives cannot make SSv2 rips, only a 360 drive flashed with 0800 firmware can. There is no way that abgx will patch an iso to SSv2 since SSv2 is meant to get the actual angle measurement and every disc may be different.
The only way to get a game with SSv2 is to rip it with a 360 drive flashed with 0800 firmware.
I myself bought a spare 360 drive and a Maximus Power Dongle (Provides power to the spare 360 drive using your computer's own molex power cable). I have around 50+ 360 games myself and I have re-ripped all of them. What worse is I have to also re-burn most of them. I suggest to get a spare Lite-On. You can one for around $40. If you are in the US I suggest vgcrepairs.com. They have spare 360 drives and the Maximus Power Dongle I mentioned. Plus they have inexpensive shipping compare the some other places.
This post has been edited by ccfman2004: Jan 22 2010, 04:10 PM
Post by: greatsave9 on January 22, 2010, 08:16:00 AM
Post by: raff5 on January 22, 2010, 08:22:00 AM
i have the option of a brand new benq drive, if flashed can i use this to rip games onto my pc or would you recommend that i track down a liteon drive.
also would you recommend XBC or schtrom fror the ripping.
i am currently using Aone discs which appear fine, or verbs when i cant get Aone.
thanks again for the advice
Post by: Maik315 on January 22, 2010, 08:54:00 AM
can I spoof the iXtreme LT (PLDS DG-16D2S 7485) as BenQ (PBDS VAD6038-64930C) with JungleFlasher v0.1.70 Beta (86)?
I tested it and JungleFlasher wrote
Spoofing Target
DVD Key copied to target
Inquiry string copied to Target
Identify string copied to Target
but OSIG is still PLDS DG-16D2S 7485!
Thanks,
Maik
Post by: Jimmydome on January 22, 2010, 09:08:00 AM
QUOTE(Maik315 @ Jan 22 2010, 10:54 AM)
Hello,
can I spoof the iXtreme LT (PLDS DG-16D2S 7485) as BenQ (PBDS VAD6038-64930C) with JungleFlasher v0.1.70 Beta (86)?
I tested it and JungleFlasher wrote
Spoofing Target
DVD Key copied to target
Inquiry string copied to Target
Identify string copied to Target
but OSIG is still PLDS DG-16D2S 7485!
Thanks,
Maik
I guess the giant message in the Jungleflasher new guide that says LT cant be spoofed as other drives wasnt a clue to you haw? people should read directions when new stuff comes out.
Post by: Maik315 on January 22, 2010, 09:26:00 AM
QUOTE(Jimmydome @ Jan 22 2010, 05:08 PM)
I guess the giant message in the Jungleflasher new guide that says LT cant be spoofed as other drives wasnt a clue to you haw? people should read directions when new stuff comes out.
Ahh, ok, thx and sorry. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: SilentBob1638 on January 22, 2010, 09:29:00 AM
If the xbox flags offline where does it store it (in NAND or by blowing fuses)?
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 22, 2010, 09:33:00 AM
QUOTE(raff5 @ Jan 22 2010, 04:22 PM)
thanks for the reply ccfman2004,
i have the option of a brand new benq drive, if flashed can i use this to rip games onto my pc or would you recommend that i track down a liteon drive.
also would you recommend XBC or schtrom fror the ripping.
i am currently using Aone discs which appear fine, or verbs when i cant get Aone.
thanks again for the advice
BenQ, Samsung or Lite-on are fine for ripping. I would stick with the Verbainims as they are the best.
People seems think schtrom is the best for ripping. XBC has not been updated in quite some time.
QUOTE(SilentBob1638 @ Jan 22 2010, 05:29 PM)
Maybe ssv1 to ssv2 diff patches are possible. Someone should rise a userdriven rdiff archive system. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
If the xbox flags offline where does it store it (in NAND or by blowing fuses)?
It stores it in the Nand. Blowing fuse only occurs during certain updates to prevent you from using the older dashboard version.
Post by: Datenshiz on January 22, 2010, 09:33:00 AM
Am i right or wrong?
I don't understand the * Full disc stealth used by default , full stealth wasn't used before? And what does this actually mean? I thought stealth capabilities relied on the image burned.
This post has been edited by Datenshiz: Jan 22 2010, 05:39 PM
Post by: SilentBob1638 on January 22, 2010, 09:53:00 AM
Post by: garlon on January 22, 2010, 09:58:00 AM
QUOTE(SilentBob1638 @ Jan 22 2010, 06:29 PM)
Maybe ssv1 to ssv2 diff patches are possible. Someone should rise a userdriven rdiff archive system. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
If the xbox flags offline where does it store it (in NAND or by blowing fuses)?
No one really knows if xbox flags offline or not. This is just a supposition but if stores something would be in nand
correct me if i´m wrong.
Post by: SNAAAKE on January 22, 2010, 10:12:00 AM
all 5 were brand new xboxes sealed with liteon drives and 1.6. one banned and 4 not banned. randomness is quite amazing I must say.
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 22, 2010, 10:18:00 AM
QUOTE(SNAAAKE @ Jan 22 2010, 06:12 PM)
I swear we'll NEVER know how bans actually work. I modded 5 xboxes for a friend(his friends I dont know them) sometimes around nov and only 1 got banned. they all played mw2 WITH bootdisc. game never passed stealth checks through abgx. I spoke to him last night and the 4 unbanned xboxes are still unbanned.
all 5 were brand new xboxes sealed with liteon drives and 1.6. one banned and 4 not banned. randomness is quite amazing I must say.
I wonder if Microsoft does that on purpose. In one way it's smart. By not banning everyone who has a modded xbox, it makes it that much more difficult to figure out what is exactly causing the ban (other than using a modded DVD drive).
Microsoft will come out with a new check to find LT, it's only a matter of time.
Post by: bullka on January 22, 2010, 10:31:00 AM
Post by: DjRicochet1 on January 22, 2010, 11:28:00 AM
QUOTE(bullka @ Jan 22 2010, 07:31 PM)
Saying the truth - I'm waiting for my xbox ban (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Why? Because I'm tired searching "ssv2 and splitvid" backups in the Internet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) If I got banned - problem solved. Then I would download every backup image I can find without any worries (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Just a word of warning, this site does not endorse piracy at all. Post anymore comments like this & your gonna get yourself banned from this site.
Post by: lenordbater on January 22, 2010, 11:43:00 AM
QUOTE(notmyrealname @ Jan 19 2010, 06:10 PM)
well after being offline for 3+ months...guess what, i'm banned, and i wasn't flagged, so what gives?
Is there consensus on this?
Like 'notmyrealname' I haven't been on Live with my modded firmware since before the last wave of bannings, so I haven't been banned yet.
Is it understood that users like me have already been flagged, and will be banned even if we connect now with the new LT firmware - or are there some users who have successfully updated to LT after playing before the ban-wave with earlier firmwares and not been banned?
It's a moot point for me at the moment, since I have a BenQ, but would be nice to know if I need to start shopping around for a deal on a new Arcade unit, or if I have a chance of staying unbanned with my current console.
Post by: Spark on January 22, 2010, 12:33:00 PM
It's a bad solution anyway because it relies very heavily on the end user knowing what their doing meaning that subsequent ban waves can be blamed on the end users as opposed to any vulnerability within the firmware. This is in complete contrast to the later days of iXtreme which were apparently developed in the way they were because 'most people didn't flash the drive themselves so needed the additional protection'.
What a load of nonsense.
Post by: col12 on January 22, 2010, 12:34:00 PM
QUOTE(Chaosplt @ Jan 20 2010, 05:00 AM)
I hope that this LT firmware gets people banned so we can concentrate 100% on the homebrew, Actually i know it will get people banned because the past what was it 2 times it got people banned.. lolz (IMG:style_emoticons/default/jester.gif)
more people want a safe fw for xbox live than can arsed with homebrew but what ever floats your boat
Post by: bhazard on January 22, 2010, 12:40:00 PM
QUOTE(Spark @ Jan 22 2010, 02:33 PM)
Can I just thank the developers of this firmware on behalf of everyone with a console more than two years old for wasting everybody's time. It would have been helpful if they could have stated at least once on their twitter page that they only planned to cater for one type of drive, at least then people wouldn't have needed to bother keeping up with the updates on it.
It's a bad solution anyway because it relies very heavily on the end user knowing what their doing meaning that subsequent ban waves can be blamed on the end users as opposed to any vulnerability within the firmware. This is in complete contrast to the later days of iXtreme which were apparently developed in the way they were because 'most people didn't flash the drive themselves so needed the additional protection'.
What a load of nonsense.
So get working on the firmware then instead of bitching about it. They don't need to do a damn thing for you.
Post by: bullka on January 22, 2010, 12:46:00 PM
QUOTE(DjRicochet1 @ Jan 22 2010, 08:28 PM)
Just a word of warning, this site does not endorse piracy at all. Post anymore comments like this & your gonna get yourself banned from this site.
OK. No prob. I'm just curious why you (and others) are so naive...
What do you think drives C4E doing what he's doing? Altruistic feelings to help people do their backups in case they will lose the original disc?!!
Don't be funny.
Piracy is the main driver. And if you think my post meant any piracy promotion... well.. I guess I need to blame my EE* nature.
No offense.
*Eastern European
PS. Yes... I know I deserve ban for my posts. So be it.
This post has been edited by bullka: Jan 22 2010, 08:58 PM
Post by: Spark on January 22, 2010, 12:58:00 PM
QUOTE(bhazard @ Jan 22 2010, 09:40 PM)
So get working on the firmware then instead of bitching about it. They don't need to do a damn thing for you.
I have no desire to, however I am not going to creep to anyone like what happens on forums like this one and irc. The people who write and release these things are not doing so out of kindness, it is usually tied to some sort of financial benefit for them or just to piss off a major corporation like Microsoft.
The twitter page stated that the firmware was in development for all drives, that hasn't happened (as of yet) and the sudden alignment wth Xecuter suggests that this has been done purely to help them to sell their connectivity kits/probes etc. It's funny that all of a sudden T-X lose their profiteering roots and align themselves with the firmware development scene (although you'll notice that they are still asking for donations) and also that the only drive for which this new solution has been released incidentally requires equipment, most of which is also developed by T-X.
They wouldn't have been able to make money off the actual firmware unless it was supplied on a copy protected chip which obviously hasn't happened so this is the next best thing for them.
Post by: not-banned on January 22, 2010, 12:58:00 PM
QUOTE(Spark @ Jan 22 2010, 08:33 PM)
...
It's a bad solution anyway because it relies very heavily on the end user knowing what their doing meaning that subsequent ban waves can be blamed on the end users as opposed to any vulnerability within the firmware. This is in complete contrast to the later days of iXtreme which were apparently developed in the way they were because 'most people didn't flash the drive themselves so needed the additional protection'.
What a load of nonsense.
It's a bad solution anyway because it relies very heavily on the end user knowing what their doing meaning that subsequent ban waves can be blamed on the end users as opposed to any vulnerability within the firmware. This is in complete contrast to the later days of iXtreme which were apparently developed in the way they were because 'most people didn't flash the drive themselves so needed the additional protection'.
What a load of nonsense.
In my opinion it's actually good that people who go online with bad backups get banned. Let MS shoot fish in a barrel with bad burns and people playing early. If there are enough bans for stupidity, they might not bother investing all that time and money figuring out how to detect the firmware.
Post by: Spark on January 22, 2010, 01:06:00 PM
QUOTE(not-banned @ Jan 22 2010, 09:58 PM)
In my opinion it's actually good that people who go online with bad backups get banned. Let MS shoot fish in a barrel with bad burns and people playing early. If there are enough bans for stupidity, they might not bother investing all that time and money figuring out how to detect the firmware.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you, but I think that is probably a bit of a short sighted view when you look at what is actually happening here. Unless you are reasonably skilled and exceptionally careful it is going to be very difficult to use this firmware long term without being banned and in the meantime Microsoft will continue to add additional protection measures to their drives and T-X will continue to work on hardware solutions for modding them whilst TJ come up with the firmware and the end user will continuously need to replace their console in order to keep playing online leading to a subsequent demand for both.
It's a fantastic business initiative but pretty much flies in the face of what iXtreme was supposed to do.
This post has been edited by Spark: Jan 22 2010, 09:14 PM
Post by: Loomies on January 22, 2010, 01:12:00 PM
Got a new jasper 360 2 weeks ago and modded it with liteon 1.61. Been playing it everyday and haven't been ban yet, should I still bother to go to 1.7 if I'm not ban
This post has been edited by Loomies: Jan 22 2010, 09:13 PM
Post by: Spark on January 22, 2010, 01:13:00 PM
You were foolish to install iXtreme on there, I would replace it with LT if I were you but it now may not be enough.
Post by: bhazard on January 22, 2010, 01:24:00 PM
QUOTE(Spark @ Jan 22 2010, 03:06 PM)
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you, but I think that is probably a bit of a short sighted view when you look at what is actually happening here. Unless you are reasonably skilled and exceptionally careful it is going to be very difficult to use this firmware long term without being banned and in the meantime Microsoft will continue to add additional protection measures to their drives and T-X will continue to work on hardware solutions for modding them whilst TJ come up with the firmware and the end user will continuously need to replace their console in order to keep playing online leading to a subsequent demand for both.
It's a fantastic business tactic but pretty much flies in the face of what iXtreme was supposed to do.
You still haven't made any valid points in your favor. I've always used a connectivity kit, and that is pretty much all you have ever needed. Like I said, if you want a different way, figure one out on your own. No one is forcing you to mod your drive. You pay to play. If you don't agree with what they are doing, stay stock. If you get banned you get banned knowing full well what you were doing going into it, and it is your fault for not taking steps to try not to make it happen. I have no sympathy for them, or anyone else thinking they have a "right" to anything with this firmware.
I had a few boxes banned over the years, but I knew it could always happen. Instead of whining about it, I still give thanks to these guys that the hack was even possible and out there for everyone to use. Keep whining, and there might never be any more firmware at all.
Post by: jeffrey92 on January 22, 2010, 01:30:00 PM
I don't want to waste my time waiting for the release of LT for other drives, but I'm assuming that they are??
Post by: bhazard on January 22, 2010, 01:37:00 PM
QUOTE(jeffrey92 @ Jan 22 2010, 03:30 PM)
how do you know they won't release it for other drives?
I don't want to waste my time waiting for the release of LT for other drives, but I'm assuming that they are??
They probably will, but they don't "have" to. If people can't wait and need this so badly now, they should just buy a new box w a lite-on so they can play their backups. Problem solved. Not saying that you are, but some people are so ungrateful it's disgusting.
Post by: jeffrey92 on January 22, 2010, 01:40:00 PM
Post by: Spark on January 22, 2010, 01:49:00 PM
QUOTE(jeffrey92 @ Jan 22 2010, 10:30 PM)
how do you know they won't release it for other drives?
I don't want to waste my time waiting for the release of LT for other drives, but I'm assuming that they are??
They probably will at some point for Benq and Samsung but it will be done at their leisure and there's no word on the subject at the moment. To be honest, I think that it may not fit in with this new merger initiative they have created with Xecuter.
And you will see halley's comet collide with Jupiter before you see a port for Hitachi. That will not happen for a long time.
QUOTE(bhazard @ Jan 22 2010, 10:37 PM)
They probably will, but they don't "have" to. If people can't wait and need this so badly now, they should just buy a new box w a lite-on so they can play their backups. Problem solved. Not saying that you are, but some people are so ungrateful it's disgusting.
So basically, you just re-itterated the points which I made on the previous page, thank you.
QUOTE(jeffrey92 @ Jan 22 2010, 10:40 PM)
it would just be nice to have some official word. I can be patient, but it makes dealing with customers difficult because I have no estimate of when this new LT f/w will be available for their drives and I don't want to give them their console back with second best (i.e. 1.61)
You shouldn't be installing it for 'customers', this is not an idiot proof solution by any means.
Post by: bhazard on January 22, 2010, 02:01:00 PM
QUOTE(Spark @ Jan 22 2010, 03:49 PM)
So basically, you just re-itterated the points which I made on the previous page, thank you.
.. and you mine. You still think you deserve everything for free, and have a "right" to have this firmware on your non lite-on box right now. They put the time, effort, and resources into it, not you. They can do whatever they want with it. I'm sorry if buying a new xbox and kit so you can play backups online is going to cost you 3 months salary, but I really dont care. Props to them. Some people are actually thankful for all they work they have done.
Post by: Spark on January 22, 2010, 02:18:00 PM
QUOTE(bhazard @ Jan 22 2010, 10:24 PM)
Keep whining, and there might never be any more firmware at all.
I have made valid points, you just haven't read them correctly and in all honesty I could fill a 20 page thread with nothing but mindless whining and these firmware's would still surface, those who write them do not do so for the crowd.
QUOTE(bhazard @ Jan 22 2010, 11:01 PM)
.. and you mine. You still think you deserve everything for free, and have a "right" to have this firmware on your non lite-on box right now. They put the time, effort, and resources into it, not you. They can do whatever they want with it. I'm sorry if buying a new xbox and kit so you can play backups online is going to cost you 3 months salary, but I really dont care. Props to them. Some people are actually thankful for all they work they have done.
No I haven't, you understand that the people who produce this firmware and the equipment required to install it are now doing so to make money, right?
This firmware has been an absolute shambles from the start and by releasing it now purely for the platform from which T-X can make the most money, I believe that some true colours have truly been shown and I am not the only one who thinks that way. You can kiss-ass in gratitude for your new 'solution' as much as you want but you can't honestly expect everyone else to do the same.
Post by: bhazard on January 22, 2010, 02:31:00 PM
QUOTE(Spark @ Jan 22 2010, 04:18 PM)
I have made valid points, you just haven't read them correctly and in all honesty I could fill a 20 page thread with nothing but mindless whining and these firmware's would still surface, those who write them do not do so for the crowd.
No I haven't, you understand that the people who produce this firmware and the equipment required to install it are now doing so to make money, right?
This firmware has been an absolute shambles from the start and by releasing it now purely for the platform from which T-X can make the most money, I believe that some true colours have truly been shown and I am not the only one who thinks that way. You can kiss-ass in gratitude for your new 'solution' as much as you want but you can't honestly expect everyone else to do the same.
Actually I do. They created the firmware and released it (for free, for now). If they want to make money off their hard work in some way good for them. I'm sure it cost a bit of money developing and testing the fw, so why shouldn't they get some money back on it? I don't see you making a better firmware than this one that is in "absolute shambles", or finding a new method to dump the newest lite-ons, and until you do you should just stfu.
Nothing is stopping anyone else from stepping up and doing either, and releasing them for free. If you have a problem with it, stay stock.
Post by: Spark on January 22, 2010, 02:44:00 PM
QUOTE(bhazard @ Jan 22 2010, 11:31 PM)
Actually I do. They created the firmware and released it (for free, for now). If they want to make money off their hard work in some way good for them. I'm sure it cost a bit of money developing and testing the fw, so why shouldn't they get some money back on it? I don't see you making a better firmware than this one that is in "absolute shambles", or finding a new method to dump the newest lite-ons, and until you do you should just stfu.
Nothing is stopping anyone else from stepping up and doing either, and releasing them for free. If you have a problem with it, stay stock.
You sound like a boring cliche' scene fanboy so I'm going to end this discussion here and just to clarify that there is plenty wrong with them making money from the firmware as that is even less legal than what they're already doing and I am staying stock at least for now anyway since they couldn't be bothered to release the firmware for the drive which I have. The newfound close alignment with Team Xecuter and them becoming involved in a scene which 4 years ago they said they wouldn't touch is still slightly worrying though.
This post has been edited by Spark: Jan 22 2010, 11:37 PM
Post by: mandatedvirus on January 22, 2010, 05:23:00 PM
QUOTE(Spark @ Jan 22 2010, 03:06 PM)
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you, but I think that is probably a bit of a short sighted view when you look at what is actually happening here. Unless you are reasonably skilled and exceptionally careful it is going to be very difficult to use this firmware long term without being banned and in the meantime Microsoft will continue to add additional protection measures to their drives and T-X will continue to work on hardware solutions for modding them whilst TJ come up with the firmware and the end user will continuously need to replace their console in order to keep playing online leading to a subsequent demand for both.
It's a fantastic business initiative but pretty much flies in the face of what iXtreme was supposed to do.
I've beena "lurker" on this site for quite some time and this is probably my first post, and it's because I can't stand your ignorance and whining. The only skill you need to be sure you're safe with this firmware is being able to download, install, and use ABGX properly. The reason Ixtreme failed is because it catered to dumbasses like you who can't be bothered enough to make sure they're backups meet a few basic requirements. Also, you are assuming that the "calibration" data that is missing from a software dump is necessary. This is not known yet.... so how about you enjoy a nice cup of Shut the Fuck up until the dust settles.
Post by: impimpin206 on January 22, 2010, 05:25:00 PM
Post by: jgcaap on January 22, 2010, 08:40:00 PM
What do you think? Vote for this solution ? ehhee Cheers Good job (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I didnt mod my xbox yet, i'm waiting for the LT switch and end of exames hehe (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Cheers
Post by: chorizo1 on January 22, 2010, 09:18:00 PM
QUOTE(jgcaap @ Jan 22 2010, 09:40 PM)
Solution = DO NOT MOD YOUR XBOX360
LT isn't jesus christ, it's not gonna save you from anything.
This post has been edited by chorizo1: Jan 23 2010, 05:20 AM
Post by: bullka on January 23, 2010, 12:43:00 AM
http://forums.afterdawn.com/t.cfm/f-152/_i...ut_ssv2-830714/
There's a IRC log in that discussion there C4E answers some questions about ssv2 and other things. I'm not sure if that thing's real.
So what is the final verdict (at least known as reliable) at the moment?
1. SSv1 is OK if the backup is wave1 or wave2
2. If the backup is wave4 or above - it should be SSv2
3. In both cases (SSv1 and SSv2) splitvid is a must
4. SSv2 and splitvid is better* than v1
*The is stated in warning in LT FW release notes; what is "better" in that case?
Is that correct?
C4e or the team could update the release notes in the first post about the ssv1 and waves.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Post by: Spider22 on January 23, 2010, 12:56:00 AM
So if game go correct with abgx it should be safe on live ?
Post by: bullka on January 23, 2010, 01:13:00 AM
QUOTE(Spider22 @ Jan 23 2010, 09:56 AM)
Warning! Ensure all disc images are checked with abgx as LT assumes all stealth/ss/pfi/dmi is correct. Disc images must also be splitvid and preferred SS v2
So if game go correct with abgx it should be safe on live ?
According the warning it should not only be OK in abgx, but it should also have SSv2 and splitvid.
Here's the example of the good image:
───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
\\//\\//\\//\\//\\/█\\//\ \ \/ /┌─┐┌─┐┌─┐\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\
//\\//\\//\\//\█▀█\█▀█\█▀█/ /\ \ ─┤├─┐│ │//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//
───────────────▀▀▀─▀▀▀─▀▀█──────└─┘└─┘└─┘─v1.0.2───────[http://abgx360.net]────
▀▀▀
Checking for updates to abgx360.dat...
Server file abgx360.dat no newer than local file - not retrieving
D:\My Documents\Downloads\Call_of_Duty_Modern_Warfare_2_USA_RF-XBOX360-RRoD\rrod
-mw2.dvd is valid
Checking Game
ISO: "D:\My Documents\Downloads\Call_of_Duty_Modern_Warfare_2_USA_RF-XBOX36
0-RRoD\rrod-mw2.iso"
Size: 7838695424 bytes (SplitVid 3rd or 4th wave)
Files in ISO: 149, Folders in ISO: 1
Total bytes used: 7255543454 (99.41%)
Game appears to have random padding
Checking default.xex
Original PE Filename: iw4sp_ship.exe
Original PE Timestamp: 2009/09/26 05:30:28
Game Name: Modern Warfare® 2
Developer: Infinity Ward
Publisher: Activision
Genre: First Person Action
No Avatar Awards
Achievements: 50 Achievements totaling 1000 Gamerscore
XEX CRC = 1F46C35A
XEX Media ID: F66327164FA486B27A77BBBF-2C8C0267
Region Code: 0xFFFFFFFF
Region Free!
Checking SS
Timestamp of Authoring: 2009/09/28 00:00:00
Timestamp of Mastering: 2009/10/02 05:36:47
SS Version: 2 (trusted)
SS CRC = F935F56E (RawSS = 61915C6D)
SS Media ID: F66327164FA486B27A77BBBF-2C8C0267 (matches game)
SS looks valid
Checking DMI
Timestamp of Authoring: 2009/09/28 00:00:00 (matches SS)
DMI CRC = 8C408B3B
DMI Media ID: F66327164FA486B27A77BBBF-2C8C0267 (matches game)
DMI looks valid
Checking PFI
PFI CRC = 05C6C409
PFI matches known data (4th wave - requires iXtreme v1.51 [Hitachi only],
v1.6 [using activation disc], v1.61 or later)
Video partition found
Video CRC = 1914211B (V0 = 29D07E66, V1 = EAE76B94)
Video partition matches known data (4th wave - requires iXtreme v1.51 [Hitachi
only], v1.6 [using activation disc], v1.61 or later)
Stealth check passed!
Starting Verification
Looking for F935F56E1F46C35A.ini in the online verified database
Server file F935F56E1F46C35A.ini no newer than local file - not retrieving
Using F935F56E1F46C35A.ini (346 bytes)
Video CRC matches
V0 CRC matches
V1 CRC matches
PFI CRC matches
DMI CRC matches
SS CRC matches
Xex CRC matches
Checking Game CRC... (press Q to cancel)
Percent Elapsed Estimated Time Average Current Errors Total
Done Time Time Left Speed Speed Recovered Retries
100% 1:30 1:30 0:00 76.8 MB/s 107.0 MB/s
AnyDVD style corruption was not detected
Game CRC = A1E028C5 (matches)
All CRCs match
Verification was successful!
Comparing L1 Video on L0 to L1 Video on L1...
SplitVid is valid
Press any key to exit . . .
Settings used to get that output:
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/1497/79676352.jpg
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/1224/49655633.jpg
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/1230/84352561.jpg
Good luck!!!
This post has been edited by bullka: Jan 23 2010, 09:16 AM
Post by: Spark on January 23, 2010, 03:54:00 AM
QUOTE(mandatedvirus @ Jan 23 2010, 02:23 AM)
I've beena "lurker" on this site for quite some time and this is probably my first post, and it's because I can't stand your ignorance and whining. The only skill you need to be sure you're safe with this firmware is being able to download, install, and use ABGX properly. The reason Ixtreme failed is because it catered to dumbasses like you who can't be bothered enough to make sure they're backups meet a few basic requirements. Also, you are assuming that the "calibration" data that is missing from a software dump is necessary. This is not known yet.... so how about you enjoy a nice cup of Shut the Fuck up until the dust settles.
Listen dickhead, if you had read from the start then you would know that unfortunately abgx can never be 100% and as the firmware no longer performs any checks, it will only take one slip up by an end user to get them banned. Contrary to what you may think, the vast majority of end users will not even know what abgx is and the new reliance upon that tool coupled with the fact that not quite everything is known about ssv2 yet means that ms will soon be looking for holes in it and they will be investing a lot of money into that cause.
This is more of a concept firmware than anything else and I think that the main reason why they can't charge for it is because most of those who will be willing to pay for it as opposed to obtaining it through some other means will derive no additional protection from it whatsoever.
Post by: opencube on January 23, 2010, 04:18:00 AM
QUOTE(bullka @ Jan 23 2010, 10:13 AM)
According the warning it should not only be OK in abgx, but it should also have SSv2 and splitvid.
Here's the example of the good image:
───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
\\//\\//\\//\\//\\/█\\//\ \ \/ /┌─┐┌─┐┌─┐\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\
//\\//\\//\\//\█▀█\█▀█\█▀█/ /\ \ ─┤├─┐│ │//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//
───────────────▀▀▀─▀▀▀─▀▀█──────└─┘└─┘└─┘─v1.0.2───────[http://abgx360.net]────
▀▀▀
Checking for updates to abgx360.dat...
Server file abgx360.dat no newer than local file - not retrieving
D:\My Documents\Downloads\Call_of_Duty_Modern_Warfare_2_USA_RF-XBOX360-RRoD\rrod
-mw2.dvd is valid
Checking Game
ISO: "D:\My Documents\Downloads\Call_of_Duty_Modern_Warfare_2_USA_RF-XBOX36
0-RRoD\rrod-mw2.iso"
Size: 7838695424 bytes (SplitVid 3rd or 4th wave)
Files in ISO: 149, Folders in ISO: 1
Total bytes used: 7255543454 (99.41%)
Game appears to have random padding
Checking default.xex
Original PE Filename: iw4sp_ship.exe
Original PE Timestamp: 2009/09/26 05:30:28
Game Name: Modern Warfare® 2
Developer: Infinity Ward
Publisher: Activision
Genre: First Person Action
No Avatar Awards
Achievements: 50 Achievements totaling 1000 Gamerscore
XEX CRC = 1F46C35A
XEX Media ID: F66327164FA486B27A77BBBF-2C8C0267
Region Code: 0xFFFFFFFF
Region Free!
Checking SS
Timestamp of Authoring: 2009/09/28 00:00:00
Timestamp of Mastering: 2009/10/02 05:36:47
SS Version: 2 (trusted)
SS CRC = F935F56E (RawSS = 61915C6D)
SS Media ID: F66327164FA486B27A77BBBF-2C8C0267 (matches game)
SS looks valid
Checking DMI
Timestamp of Authoring: 2009/09/28 00:00:00 (matches SS)
DMI CRC = 8C408B3B
DMI Media ID: F66327164FA486B27A77BBBF-2C8C0267 (matches game)
DMI looks valid
Checking PFI
PFI CRC = 05C6C409
PFI matches known data (4th wave - requires iXtreme v1.51 [Hitachi only],
v1.6 [using activation disc], v1.61 or later)
Video partition found
Video CRC = 1914211B (V0 = 29D07E66, V1 = EAE76B94)
Video partition matches known data (4th wave - requires iXtreme v1.51 [Hitachi
only], v1.6 [using activation disc], v1.61 or later)
Stealth check passed!
Starting Verification
Looking for F935F56E1F46C35A.ini in the online verified database
Server file F935F56E1F46C35A.ini no newer than local file - not retrieving
Using F935F56E1F46C35A.ini (346 bytes)
Video CRC matches
V0 CRC matches
V1 CRC matches
PFI CRC matches
DMI CRC matches
SS CRC matches
Xex CRC matches
Checking Game CRC... (press Q to cancel)
Percent Elapsed Estimated Time Average Current Errors Total
Done Time Time Left Speed Speed Recovered Retries
100% 1:30 1:30 0:00 76.8 MB/s 107.0 MB/s
AnyDVD style corruption was not detected
Game CRC = A1E028C5 (matches)
All CRCs match
Verification was successful!
Comparing L1 Video on L0 to L1 Video on L1...
SplitVid is valid
Press any key to exit . . .
Settings used to get that output:
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http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/1224/49655633.jpg
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/1230/84352561.jpg
Good luck!!!
what happens if the abgx check only shows SS v1, and no mention of v2?
Post by: PerfectCell on January 23, 2010, 04:45:00 AM
Post by: logicwatch on January 23, 2010, 05:21:00 AM
QUOTE(PerfectCell @ Jan 23 2010, 11:45 AM)
Shouldn't we tick the box for adjust angle 359 for <ix1.4 as LT will not correct the angle for us ?
good point any tech expert care to comment on the above please ?
Post by: opencube on January 23, 2010, 05:31:00 AM
Actually would be handy having a definitive abgx setting we could adhere to for LT going forward.
Post by: Spider22 on January 23, 2010, 06:08:00 AM
THX
This post has been edited by Spider22: Jan 23 2010, 02:08 PM
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 23, 2010, 06:22:00 AM
QUOTE(Spider22 @ Jan 23 2010, 02:08 PM)
Can I change drive from benq to Liteon ? and spoof iXtreme LT on Liteon as Benq ?
THX
NO. LT cannot be spoofed as it has been said many times already.
Post by: bullka on January 23, 2010, 06:31:00 AM
QUOTE(opencube @ Jan 23 2010, 01:18 PM)
what happens if the abgx check only shows SS v1, and no mention of v2?
No idea.
As it's said in release notes: it should be v2 and splitvid.
I guess new version of the abgx360 could be released to show us more recommendations like if it's ss v1 and wave 1 or 2 - "risky but OK for LT", if ss v1 and wave 4 or above - "no good for LT", if ss v2 and splitvid - "very good for LT".
That would be really good (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
This post has been edited by bullka: Jan 23 2010, 02:34 PM
Post by: teknofranko on January 23, 2010, 08:26:00 AM
Spoofed my dummy.bin into orig.bin (to have calibration data) from LT pack....then spoofed orig.bin (with dummy injected) into Ixtreme LT...flashed....and everything is REALLY FINE!
Damn good job Team Jungle and C4E! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Thank's you all!
Post by: sdeens2009 on January 23, 2010, 08:39:00 AM
I did a firmware binary HEX comparrison between native unpatched: ix161-74850C and patched ix161-74850C-spoofed 79FL, which reveals EXACTLY 142 byte changes starting at .hex address: 13E00-13EEC.
I spoofed the older iXtreme 1.61 LITE-ON firmware into a spoofed LITE-ON/Hitachi 79FL to isolate the locations and values for Hitachi DEVICE ID strings when used in LITE-ONs 73850C drives. I did not change any other parameters or DVD keys. This is all fairly easy.
2 Questions:
1) where in this new LT-74850C firmware can we patch these 142 bytes to spoof this LITE-ON drive into an Hitachi 79FL manually? (EXACT addresses please). Would other changes be necessary to activate the spoofing mechanism in LT firmware since its been deliberately removed or simply disabled (I am not sure if such a check ieven exists in this new LT code)?
why ask?
Its highly doubtful we will ever see in the near future an LT release specifically for the Hitachi and its numerous firmware permutations. Its always been the least supported firmware. And owners of ZEPHYR consoles (like myself) often had these lousy Hitachis and especially the difficult to unclock 79FLs which are more expensive to replace . Thus one may as well take his chances if they own a spare LITE-ON-73850C and spoof it as Hitachi 79FL in a ZEPHYR console.
2) Is there a checksum/CRC calculation to this new LT firmware after the Device ID string is manually patched in (Hitachi in this case--79FL), and if so where is it exactly and do we have a 3rd party utility to perform the CRC (assuming it even exists)?
This post has been edited by sdeens2009: Jan 23 2010, 04:53 PM
Post by: XOR101 on January 23, 2010, 08:45:00 AM
QUOTE(teknofranko @ Jan 23 2010, 04:26 PM)
Finally i did it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
Spoofed my dummy.bin into orig.bin (to have calibration data) from LT pack....then spoofed orig.bin (with dummy injected) into Ixtreme LT...flashed....and everything is REALLY FINE!
Damn good job Team Jungle and C4E! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Thank's you all!
lol... you cannot spoof the dummy.bin to orig.bin (as it's not your orig.bin because otherwise you would not need the dummy.bin).
The calibration data is unique to your drive. Therefore totally useless when you spoof it from someone else...
Post by: teknofranko on January 23, 2010, 08:59:00 AM
QUOTE(XOR101 @ Jan 23 2010, 04:45 PM)
lol... you cannot spoof the dummy.bin to orig.bin (as it's not your orig.bin because otherwise you would not need the dummy.bin).
The calibration data is unique to your drive. Therefore totally useless when you spoof it from someone else...
With orig.bin i meant the "original" firmware of a 7xxxx drive. Not everybody think calibration data are different from drive to drive but it's reasonable there should be different calibration data for different drive series....if they are useless it's not a big deal as, anyway, everything works....time will be the judge (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
Post by: randalmorn on January 23, 2010, 09:42:00 AM
Jungle Flasher V0.1.70 beta (86)
here is the change log:
QUOTE
Foreign Language support
---------------------------------------
German, French, Greek and Portuguese added.
Spanish, Italian and Russian to follow
Bug fix - calib data not being flashed
can someone test this release??
Post by: bullka on January 23, 2010, 10:36:00 AM
I abgxed one backup and the output was (verbosity - high):
<..>
Video partition found
Volume ID: "XGD2DVD_NTSC"
Volume space size: 2724 sectors (5578752 bytes)
Volume creation date & time: 2006/03/06 21:09:07 (GMT-08:00)
Video CRC = 91410773 (V0 = 81DF6964, V1 = E47F6A94)
Video partition matches known data (2nd wave)
<..>
DriveName=SH-D162C
DriveFW=1.00
<..>
SS Version: 1
<..>
SplitVid is valid
<..>
Questions:
- Do I understand correctly that if a game was ripped with xbox 360 it's safe to use it with LT?
- Does that DriveName=SH-D162C mean that game was ripped with xbox 360? What other model can appear in that line which would mean that game is ripped with xbox 360 and be safe to use with LT?
Have you tried such backups or not?
Post by: impimpin206 on January 23, 2010, 10:44:00 AM
QUOTE(bullka @ Jan 23 2010, 09:36 AM)
Hi,
I abgxed one backup and the output was (verbosity - high):
<..>
Video partition found
Volume ID: "XGD2DVD_NTSC"
Volume space size: 2724 sectors (5578752 bytes)
Volume creation date & time: 2006/03/06 21:09:07 (GMT-08:00)
Video CRC = 91410773 (V0 = 81DF6964, V1 = E47F6A94)
Video partition matches known data (2nd wave)
<..>
DriveName=SH-D162C
DriveFW=1.00
<..>
SS Version: 1
<..>
SplitVid is valid
<..>
Questions:
- Do I understand correctly that if a game was ripped with xbox 360 it's safe to use it with LT?
- Does that DriveName=SH-D162C mean that game was ripped with xbox 360? What other model can appear in that line which would mean that game is ripped with xbox 360 and be safe to use with LT?
Have you tried such backups or not?
Q1) Partly true. If it was not ripped with an xbox360 0800 firmware (such as Kreon), it is NOT SSv2, and could theoretically get detected (nobody knows yet). However, just because it was ripped with an 0800 firmware does not necessarily mean it is safe. Kreon cannot do SSv2, which is a measurement on the disc. Current 0800 can, but older 0800 firmwares didn't do it. The only way is to check them.
I checked 10 of my backups last night- 2 of them were ripped with 0800 and have correct splitvid and SSv2. The remaining 8 were ripped with kreon drives and only have ssv1. They went in the trash.
Q2) Yes, the drive name is exactly that- the type of drive used to rip the disc. In your example, it would be a SH-d162c. That's a PC drive w/ Kreon firmware. This would not be considered safe by many, but like I said nobody truly knows if SSv1 is safe or not- so play it safe and only use SSv2 discs. You're looking for a rip with one of the following (xbox360 drives):
- Benq VAD6038
- LiteOn DG-16D2S
- Toshiba-Samsung TS-H943
Post by: bullka on January 23, 2010, 11:08:00 AM
QUOTE(impimpin206 @ Jan 23 2010, 07:44 PM)
You're looking for a rip with one of the following (xbox360 drives):
- Benq VAD6038
- LiteOn DG-16D2S
- Toshiba-Samsung TS-H943
Thanks for quick reply. You already answered to my question No 3 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Post by: foolkiller on January 23, 2010, 11:16:00 AM
QUOTE(bullka @ Jan 23 2010, 12:36 PM)
Hi,
I abgxed one backup and the output was (verbosity - high):
<..>
Video partition found
Volume ID: "XGD2DVD_NTSC"
Volume space size: 2724 sectors (5578752 bytes)
Volume creation date & time: 2006/03/06 21:09:07 (GMT-08:00)
Video CRC = 91410773 (V0 = 81DF6964, V1 = E47F6A94)
Video partition matches known data (2nd wave)
<..>
DriveName=SH-D162C
DriveFW=1.00
<..>
SS Version: 1
<..>
SplitVid is valid
<..>
Questions:
- Do I understand correctly that if a game was ripped with xbox 360 it's safe to use it with LT?
- Does that DriveName=SH-D162C mean that game was ripped with xbox 360? What other model can appear in that line which would mean that game is ripped with xbox 360 and be safe to use with LT?
Have you tried such backups or not?
"SH-D162C" is a Samsung PC drive with kreon firmware. This is exactly what we have to stay away from. But the game in your example is a WAVE 2 so it should be ok, if i understand correctly. According to C4Eva suspicion, ss2 checking started with WAVE 3, so anything before WAVE 3 should be ok to be ss1. Someone correct me if im wrong. As far as what model you you want to appear. basically anything but SH-D162C.
Post by: feidhlim1986 on January 23, 2010, 01:32:00 PM
QUOTE(randalmorn @ Jan 23 2010, 06:42 PM)
a new jungleflasher released !!!
Jungle Flasher V0.1.70 beta (86)
here is the change log:
can someone test this release??
Does this mean we must re-flash using the newer version of JF?
Post by: impimpin206 on January 23, 2010, 01:48:00 PM
QUOTE(feidhlim1986 @ Jan 23 2010, 12:32 PM)
Does this mean we must re-flash using the newer version of JF?
If you did an MRA dump, you can use the new JF to reflash your drive to include the calibration data. If you didn't do a full MRA dump, then don't worry about it.
Post by: feidhlim1986 on January 23, 2010, 04:08:00 PM
QUOTE(impimpin206 @ Jan 23 2010, 10:48 PM)
If you did an MRA dump, you can use the new JF to reflash your drive to include the calibration data. If you didn't do a full MRA dump, then don't worry about it.
Good to know thanks.
Yup I didn't do a MRA dump....if I see the word 'solder' I run (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Btw, I now have a spare Lite-on (flashed to iXtreme1.6). How can I use that to create my own backup's or can't I?
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 23, 2010, 04:20:00 PM
QUOTE(feidhlim1986 @ Jan 24 2010, 12:08 AM)
Good to know thanks.
Yup I didn't do a MRA dump....if I see the word 'solder' I run (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Btw, I now have a spare Lite-on (flashed to iXtreme1.6). How can I use that to create my own backup's or can't I?
Flash the 0800 Lite-On firmware and get connectivity kit (if you don't have one.)
Post by: elpap77 on January 23, 2010, 04:33:00 PM
Post by: feidhlim1986 on January 23, 2010, 04:36:00 PM
QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Jan 24 2010, 01:20 AM)
Flash the 0800 Lite-On firmware and get connectivity kit (if you don't have one.)
Thanks. I have a connectivity kit.
Post by: Psylink on January 23, 2010, 05:09:00 PM
few days ago i decided to take a quick look at my backups in abgx and schtrom, comparing different settings in abgx and had a SSV2 splitvid ok spit back at me, changed some of the ticks in abgx, ssv2 was then untrusted, splitvid ok. basically based on the splitvid/ssv(1)2 settings they all came back showing ssv1 ssv2 (trust/untrusted) and splitvid ok.
so i reran in Schtrom and they FAILED, even after seeing abgx360 spit out that the ssv2 trusted and splitvid ok
personally i'm not touching abgx360 and i'll be grabbing a spare 0800 drive to redo every single backup
the only thing i've been holding off on, is regarding the drive calibration and if i need it for "safer" xbox live play. not one for soldering an such, really need to learn, but not doing it on a new 360. going to hope for some response on the calib. within the next couple weeks or i guess i'm going no calib. settings
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 23, 2010, 05:35:00 PM
QUOTE(elpap77 @ Jan 24 2010, 12:33 AM)
I was just curious as to whether or not it is necessary to dump your backups with the same type of 360 DVD drive as you will be playing it on. Or if it would be perfectly safe to dump the games with iXtreme 1.6 0800 flashed onto say a dedicated Samsung 360 dumping drive and then play the backup on a lite-on drive flashed with iXtreme LT in the console itself?
As long as the dumper drive is flashed with the 0800 firmware it should not matter.
Post by: clouduz on January 23, 2010, 05:40:00 PM
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 23, 2010, 05:46:00 PM
QUOTE(clouduz @ Jan 24 2010, 01:40 AM)
so what's better to rip with Kreon drive or actual 360 drive?
An actual 360 drive.
Post by: wantin2mod on January 23, 2010, 06:05:00 PM
Thanks.
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 23, 2010, 06:11:00 PM
QUOTE(wantin2mod @ Jan 24 2010, 02:05 AM)
Could someone please explain to me what an "MRA dump" is? I've been reading yet can't find what this is.
Thanks.
"MRA" is the method used to fully dump the firmware of a Lite-On drive. It includes the calibration data of the drive whereas a Dummy dump does not.
The "MRA" method is the only way to get the key from a 83xxx V2 or 9xxxx drive.
The MRA requires soldering skills and cutting traces on the drive itself.
Post by: wantin2mod on January 23, 2010, 06:23:00 PM
QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Jan 23 2010, 06:11 PM)
"MRA" is the method used to fully dump the firmware of a Lite-On drive. It includes the calibration data of the drive whereas a Dummy dump does not.
The "MRA" method is the only way to get the key from a 83xxx V2 or 9xxxx drive.
The MRA requires soldering skills and cutting traces on the drive itself.
Thanks for such a quick reply ccfman2004. Ok, I see now and have been reading a lot of this information and methods here on the scene.
My question is this: I have a Lite-on version 74xxxx that I bridged the R707 to dump my firmware. Does that mean my dummy from this dump is totally useless when I go to upgrade to iXtreme LT?
What does MRA stand for?
(I think I've some soldering skills since I have successfully installed a couple of PS2 modchips. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) )
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 23, 2010, 06:30:00 PM
QUOTE(wantin2mod @ Jan 24 2010, 02:23 AM)
Thanks for such a quick reply ccfman2004. Ok, I see now and have been reading a lot of this information and methods here on the scene.
My question is this: I have a Lite-on version 74xxxx that I bridged the R707 to dump my firmware. Does that mean my dummy from this dump is totally useless when I go to upgrade to iXtreme LT?
What does MRA stand for?
(I think I've some soldering skills since I have successfully installed a couple of PS2 modchips. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) )
Have you ever cut traces before and then repaired them?
Check out this link for more info on what is required.
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=698256
Post by: aqswde123 on January 23, 2010, 07:55:00 PM
thanks
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 23, 2010, 08:37:00 PM
QUOTE(aqswde123 @ Jan 24 2010, 03:55 AM)
i've installed some games which are ssv1 with splitvid on my xbox hdd....I reburnt the isos with ssv2....do i need to reinstall the games again with the new disk or just use the new disk?
thanks
I would re install the games, but it is probably not necessary as I don't think the disc security would be copied too. Unless you installed the game on a different console, then you must re install.
This post has been edited by ccfman2004: Jan 24 2010, 04:37 AM
Post by: impimpin206 on January 23, 2010, 08:37:00 PM
QUOTE(aqswde123 @ Jan 23 2010, 06:55 PM)
i've installed some games which are ssv1 with splitvid on my xbox hdd....I reburnt the isos with ssv2....do i need to reinstall the games again with the new disk or just use the new disk?
thanks
play it safe. reinstall them.
Post by: skabbfan on January 24, 2010, 01:46:00 AM
Is the "calibration data" unique for each DVD-drive? Or are they unique for each version of Lite-On (74850C, 83850C, 93450C)? Or are they all the same?
And thanks to c4e and tj.
Post by: sirreco on January 24, 2010, 03:03:00 AM
1 - Are the discs with 359 angle SS (previously known as Bad Kreon Rip) OK to be used with LT?
2 - I have a SH-D162 drive that I use to perform my rips, and as mentioned it does not perform the Split Vid rip correctly. Is it OK to rip them like than and then fix it with ABGX?
3 - I know LT does not support spoofing from other models, but I only have one drive that is Liteon 8xxx, I have a spare one that is Liteon 7xxx, I would like to just test the keys I dumped from my 8xxx drive on the 7xxx before flashing it, not planning on going on Live with the 7xxx it is just to test if the keys are valid. Is it OK to do that? Could I have any problem going on Live later on with the original 8xxx drive with LT?
Thanks in advance.
Post by: UnnA^ on January 24, 2010, 04:20:00 AM
Post by: hardie on January 24, 2010, 05:18:00 AM
http://www.jungleflasher.net/170.html (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
JungleFlasher 0.1.70(86)
=====================================
Foreign Language support
---------------------------------------
German, French, Greek and Portuguese added.
Spanish, Italian and Russian to follow.
Bug fix - Calib data not being flashed
This post has been edited by hardie: Jan 24 2010, 01:19 PM
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 24, 2010, 06:11:00 AM
QUOTE(sirreco @ Jan 24 2010, 11:03 AM)
Hello Experts out there, I have been reading all 38 pages of this thread and I sill have some questions, perhaps some could help me:
1 - Are the discs with 359 angle SS (previously known as Bad Kreon Rip) OK to be used with LT?
2 - I have a SH-D162 drive that I use to perform my rips, and as mentioned it does not perform the Split Vid rip correctly. Is it OK to rip them like than and then fix it with ABGX?
3 - I know LT does not support spoofing from other models, but I only have one drive that is Liteon 8xxx, I have a spare one that is Liteon 7xxx, I would like to just test the keys I dumped from my 8xxx drive on the 7xxx before flashing it, not planning on going on Live with the 7xxx it is just to test if the keys are valid. Is it OK to do that? Could I have any problem going on Live later on with the original 8xxx drive with LT?
Thanks in advance.
1. I wouldn't use them.
2. The Kreon Drive cannot rip the SSv2, get a spare 360 drive flashed with the 0800 firmware.
3. All Lite-On drives are the same, only difference is the firmware. Just flash the 7xxxx drive with the 8xxxx LT firmware, no need to spoof. Don't use any other version of iXtreme as it is not known if the xbox records data to the nand when using backups or originals.
This post has been edited by ccfman2004: Jan 24 2010, 02:11 PM
Post by: me2611 on January 24, 2010, 09:54:00 AM
QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Jan 24 2010, 02:35 AM)
As long as the dumper drive is flashed with the 0800 firmware it should not matter.
Even if its is SSv1 wave 3-4-5-6 ripped with an Xbox drive w/ 0800 fw?
From what i have read around forums is all wave 3-4-5-6 and onwards ripped with Xbox drive w/ 0800 fw "should" be SSV2?
So confussed with all this SSv1 v SSv2 business.
I just want o play online lol.
Post by: ccfman2004 on January 24, 2010, 09:58:00 AM
QUOTE(me2611 @ Jan 24 2010, 05:54 PM)
Even if its is SSv1 wave 3-4-5-6 ripped with an Xbox drive w/ 0800 fw?
From what i have read around forums is all wave 3-4-5-6 and onwards ripped with Xbox drive w/ 0800 fw "should" be SSV2?
So confussed with all this SSv1 v SSv2 business.
I just want o play online lol.
If you use the iXtreme 1.6 0800 for your dumping drive it will come out with SSv2.
SSv1 uses a preset angle value when the game it ripped and a small jitter is applied to it.
SSv2 takes 2 actual angle measurements. This makes the ISO more like the original.
Post by: me2611 on January 24, 2010, 10:52:00 AM
Wave 6 game
Drive - VAD6038
Drive FW - Ixtreme v1.6 0800 standalone.
SS - SSv1
Post by: mattjk on January 24, 2010, 10:59:00 AM
QUOTE(me2611 @ Jan 24 2010, 07:52 PM)
See this is why i'am confussed and many others.
Wave 6 game
Drive - VAD6038
Drive FW - Ixtreme v1.6 0800 standalone.
SS - SSv1
Are you copying an already copied game?
Post by: me2611 on January 24, 2010, 11:07:00 AM
I have been on IRC and still can't get a confirmed answer on whats good and what isn't
Apparently wave 2 and before are fine with SSv1 Kreon rip.
Post by: danteusz on January 24, 2010, 11:19:00 AM
QUOTE(me2611 @ Jan 24 2010, 06:52 PM)
See this is why i'am confussed and many others.
Wave 6 game
Drive - VAD6038
Drive FW - Ixtreme v1.6 0800 standalone.
SS - SSv1
games like this is it save on live or not?
many people many opinions and im so confused
if we have iso from 08000 standalone ssv1 no matter of wave is ok or we alaways need patch it for ssv2?
ps.sry for english, im russian (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Post by: foolkiller on January 24, 2010, 11:36:00 AM
QUOTE(me2611 @ Jan 24 2010, 12:52 PM)
See this is why i'am confussed and many others.
Wave 6 game
Drive - VAD6038
Drive FW - Ixtreme v1.6 0800 standalone.
SS - SSv1
Been reading about this too, and apparently its a problem with ABGX and its database. As of now you cannot rely on ABGX. If you rip the game yourself with an Xbox 0800 drive you will be fine. You can run it trough ABGX but don't have Auto fix on. You can test this out yourself by taking that game in question and patching it with a incorrect SS, then run it trough ABGX repeat if needed till ABGX selects an SSv2 for it. Im sure the game in question is Army of Two The 40th Day(5B93251BBA2B9F7F.ini) and it should have "SS CRC = 5B93251B"witch is SSv2. I knew this would be a problem long before LT got released and every time i asked about the update status of ABGX all i got was "Who the hell cares about ABGX when their is no safe firmware blah blaH BLAH" Now do you rtards see the why i was stressing the imports of an ABGX update. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grr.gif)
Post by: wyrdo on January 25, 2010, 10:17:00 AM
QUOTE(foolkiller @ Jan 25 2010, 04:50 PM)
No, just flash LT again to it with the new JF. No need to go back to stock.
Ah, thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: Madmarky01 on January 25, 2010, 10:28:00 AM
Post by: foolkiller on January 25, 2010, 11:05:00 AM
QUOTE(Madmarky01 @ Jan 25 2010, 12:28 PM)
so can abgx be trusted or not??
For now i would say no, not till this SSv2 mess in their database is fixed. And wave 5 & 6 support need to be added too so splitvid can properly be checked. So make your own backups (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) and you will be fine.
Post by: Reaper527 on January 25, 2010, 01:00:00 PM
QUOTE(Recoilmaster @ Jan 25 2010, 09:54 AM)
HI,
have an 74850 Drive first flashed with 1.51 some months ago. For the upgrade to LT I used the Tray half open Trick to get the full dump, patched this to LT and flashed the Drive.
Does I need to reflash this because of missing Calibration Settings ?
Thx
The Key reading for the first flash was done with an connectivity Kit and soldering of the R707.
what you did wasn't a full dump, it only pulled certain informaton. when you flashed 1.51 on there, you destroyed your calibration data. doing an MRA dump now won't get that data back.
your drive is as safe as it ever will be. no need to reflash.
Post by: tornadog on January 25, 2010, 01:29:00 PM
QUOTE(Reaper527 @ Jan 25 2010, 09:00 PM)
what you did wasn't a full dump, it only pulled certain informaton. when you flashed 1.51 on there, you destroyed your calibration data. doing an MRA dump now won't get that data back.
your drive is as safe as it ever will be. no need to reflash.
I was gonna ask the same question but you just answered it...thanks
Post by: deathracer on January 25, 2010, 02:34:00 PM
i have ix 1.6 and i want to update to lt, but in jungle flasher it starts talking about doing the key extract again.
yes i know the cal data is lost and its not what im asking so please don't start telling me about that.
This post has been edited by deathracer: Jan 25 2010, 10:35 PM
Post by: MBry0 on January 25, 2010, 03:38:00 PM
man, too useless posts around here. If everyone read the entire topic there would be just 3 pages...
It would be nice to put all the good infos on the first post, so that lazy men stop boring us with repeated questions...
that's what i get about the usage of lt:
1. the LT, to be as similar as the original, is without any kind of stealth check, so the only way to play it safe is to use trusted backup.
2. the only way to have trusted backup is to make them from an original 360 drive with 0800. Kreon are good only for wave 1 and 2
correct?
Post by: danteusz on January 25, 2010, 03:40:00 PM
Post by: WhyS on January 26, 2010, 11:56:00 AM
Post by: PerfectCell on January 26, 2010, 12:06:00 PM
Anyone care to comment
Also does the SSv2 Angle measurements vary from game to game or wave to wave ?
Post by: mickey797 on January 26, 2010, 01:16:00 PM
I just successfully flashed my Lite-on (iXtreme 1.51) to iXtreme LT; Was able to go on XBOX Live and apparently I'm still not banned. My question is regarding the stealth verification ... from what I can gather reading the posts here, abgx cannot be trusted anymore either at this point. What do I do with my existing backups that were fully verified & stealthed for iXtreme 1.51? Can I still play them on iXtreme LT or are they unsafe now?
And what about newer backups ... wait for an updated abgx or OK to run through abgx now?
Thanks!
Post by: trepid on January 26, 2010, 01:42:00 PM
Post by: xboxdawg on January 26, 2010, 02:15:00 PM
The Kreon drive does SplitVid but not SS V2.
Once the LT for the Benq drives comes out I plan to purchase a spare Benq drive and flash it with the 0800 firmware and use Schtrom to re-rip the games from my originals.
XBD
Post by: mickey797 on January 26, 2010, 02:57:00 PM
QUOTE(xboxdawg @ Jan 26 2010, 10:15 PM)
From what I've read your old backups are not safe to use on Live unless you ripped them with an xbox drive (Benq VAD6038, Liteon DG-16D2S, or Toshiba-Samsung TS-H943) with the 0800 firmware. Your backups need SplitVid and SS v2.
The Kreon drive does SplitVid but not SS V2.
Once the LT for the Benq drives comes out I plan to purchase a spare Benq drive and flash it with the 0800 firmware and use Schtrom to re-rip the games from my originals.
XBD
i. Is abgx able to do SplitVid & SS V2?
ii. I don't play online; just maintain the Live Silver account for uploading achievements, downloading trailers, demos etc ... Would it still be unsafe to even play the old backups offline?
Post by: aerotive on January 26, 2010, 03:36:00 PM
Anyway, previously I successfully modded a Benq drive using a computer with an nvidia nforce chipset, didn't have any lockups or other problems. Should the same computer work with this Liteon drive, or will I need a Via sata card? I know I'll need a USBXtractor or equivalent to mod this 74850c drive. If it matters the hardware version of the Liteon is A0A1, manufactured October 2008.
Anything else to watch out for?
Post by: ccfman2004 on February 02, 2010, 02:51:00 PM
QUOTE
' date='Feb 2 2010, 10:49 PM' post='4631477']
So iv'e done this dump a couple of times. Am i missing out on the calibration data? what does it do ?
So iv'e done this dump a couple of times. Am i missing out on the calibration data? what does it do ?
That's what I want to know.
Post by: ccfman2004 on February 03, 2010, 04:44:00 AM
QUOTE(vinyljunkie @ Feb 3 2010, 08:51 AM)
does this mean the drive that I ripped the game with myself? i ran a few of own rips from a TS-H943 with 0800 fw and abgx360 says drivename=SH-d162c.
That is because the drive that was used to get the original game data in the abgx360 was a SH-d162c (that's what the users who submitted the data used). Abgx360 cannot tell what drive was used to rip the game. That is why it is important for you to rip the game yourself.
Post by: me2611 on February 03, 2010, 05:42:00 AM
QUOTE(nakata101 @ Feb 3 2010, 02:07 PM)
I m just got my xbox, but found out the xbox still in Ix 1.6 which need the boot disc to bot wave 4 dvd, now i dun have any tools or connectivity kit, can i just take out the dvd rom to connect it to my pc with sata cable, then switch it on with xbox power, my dvd-rom is Lite-On and Fw is 74xxx version, i dun have the key too, can i just flash it to Ix LT ??
Am pretty sure you can just use a sata connection and use your xbox 360 to power the drive as long as you have a compatible chipset (google). You will only be doing a DUMMY FROM IXTREME to get your LiteOn 7 series Info as your saying it has IX1.6fw on the drive.
I allways use CK3 kit to power my drives but the XBOX power will work but its allways "safer" to use something like the CK3 as the Box won't be powered on with no drive init.
GL
Post by: Mastodontz on February 03, 2010, 07:54:00 AM
Post by: Awakener on February 03, 2010, 08:06:00 AM
Post by: dolemite01 on February 03, 2010, 08:49:00 AM
QUOTE(Mastodontz @ Feb 3 2010, 10:54 AM)
Does iXtreme LT boot non-splitvid discs? Not asking about safety of such solution (which is propably close to none), but I want to know if I'll have to reburn all my discs with splitvid just to play on a banned console flashed with LT. Tried looking for an answer, but I couldn't find a clear one.
AFAIK, it will boot any disc stealth/dmi/ss, etc even if those aren't correct and this extends to SplitVid as well.
Post by: chorizo1 on February 03, 2010, 10:17:00 AM
QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Feb 3 2010, 11:12 AM)
I don't trust iso patching.
and we don't discuss it here, or advise people to do so.
Post by: nakata101 on February 03, 2010, 03:05:00 PM
QUOTE(me2611 @ Feb 3 2010, 08:42 PM)
Am pretty sure you can just use a sata connection and use your xbox 360 to power the drive as long as you have a compatible chipset (google). You will only be doing a DUMMY FROM IXTREME to get your LiteOn 7 series Info as your saying it has IX1.6fw on the drive.
I allways use CK3 kit to power my drives but the XBOX power will work but its allways "safer" to use something like the CK3 as the Box won't be powered on with no drive init.
GL
I will try it, thx for reply.
Post by: vinyljunkie on February 03, 2010, 06:47:00 PM
QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Feb 3 2010, 03:44 AM)
That is because the drive that was used to get the original game data in the abgx360 was a SH-d162c (that's what the users who submitted the data used). Abgx360 cannot tell what drive was used to rip the game. That is why it is important for you to rip the game yourself.
Thanks for clearing that up for me!
Post by: tornadog on February 04, 2010, 07:39:00 AM
Post by: the soul poet on February 04, 2010, 09:21:00 AM
QUOTE(tornadog @ Feb 4 2010, 02:39 PM)
is the LT more rigid on the media type used? After flashing to LT I am getting open tray errors on all my memorex media that used to work on 1.61 NS. The Verbs seem to work fine most of the time. Originals work all the time.
I should expect so, there was a twitter post at one point saying they were having issues with non verbs. That may have been resolved to an extent but they can't test every brand/combination.
You could try a pot tweak if your keen, this will adjust your lasers strength to compensate for crappy discs. This would reduce the lifespan of the laser and to be honest I always find Verbs are simply the best no matter what as some games will work fine on non verb but you can end up having choppy video scenes.
Post by: tornadog on February 04, 2010, 10:25:00 AM
QUOTE(the soul poet @ Feb 4 2010, 05:21 PM)
I should expect so, there was a twitter post at one point saying they were having issues with non verbs. That may have been resolved to an extent but they can't test every brand/combination.
You could try a pot tweak if your keen, this will adjust your lasers strength to compensate for crappy discs. This would reduce the lifespan of the laser and to be honest I always find Verbs are simply the best no matter what as some games will work fine on non verb but you can end up having choppy video scenes.
yea I think I will stick to verbs..I just bought a new laser to replace the one that crapped out. Dont want this also to die on me now...
Post by: ccfman2004 on February 05, 2010, 12:49:00 AM
QUOTE(tornadog @ Feb 4 2010, 06:25 PM)
yea I think I will stick to verbs..I just bought a new laser to replace the one that crapped out. Dont want this also to die on me now...
I've been using Ritech Ridatas with 0 problems. Printable DVD-R DL Verbaitims are just too darn expensive.
Post by: kaneda_77 on February 05, 2010, 12:04:00 PM
I avoided the banhammer I have one of the original liteon dg-162 drives with ixtreme 1.6 on it.
Is it advisable to flash back to stock firmware and apply updates and then upgrade to LT? Or is that just for the 7xxx, 8xxx etc series?
A sidenote question, if I spoof my benq or samsung drive as my Liteon(with original firmware) and apply the updates, would that be similar to flashing the liteon back to stock? seeing as that was a simpler method, i was going to go that route?
OR is there no need to do any of the above and just upgrade to LT?
I think I read somewhere that some people had flashed back to OFW before logging back onto live and that there box was saved from the banhammer. thats the only reason i ask.
Post by: ccfman2004 on February 05, 2010, 03:45:00 PM
QUOTE(kaneda_77 @ Feb 5 2010, 08:04 PM)
I think I read somewhere that some people had flashed back to OFW before logging back onto live and that there box was saved from the banhammer. thats the only reason i ask.
That did not always work.
Post by: tweakthings on February 06, 2010, 11:25:00 AM
Post by: mattjk on February 06, 2010, 11:30:00 AM
QUOTE(tweakthings @ Feb 6 2010, 08:25 PM)
I see games with 2 or 3 different SS v2 that don't match. SS v1 and SS v2 angle variations are usually around 1% off. How are we safer with SS v2.
I guess you dont understand what exactly these secuity sectors are, open ABGX andc click the drop down for what is SSV2 all will be explained.
Post by: tweakthings on February 06, 2010, 11:35:00 AM
Post by: feidhlim1986 on February 06, 2010, 03:36:00 PM
Post by: ccfman2004 on February 06, 2010, 03:41:00 PM
QUOTE(feidhlim1986 @ Feb 6 2010, 11:36 PM)
Is there any less of a risk of just connecting to LIVE, without playing a backup on LIVE, with no disc in drive, and no backup game installed on HDD, just to download a XBLA game.
Not really.
Post by: barndon on February 09, 2010, 12:25:00 AM
I have three questions that I have searched for but have found no answer so I thought maybe someone on here could lead me in the right direction.
1. Do I have to do a MRA dvd key extraction to get the calibration data and original keys before I flash in order to do the Jtag hack?
2 If I were to flash the drive (Lite-ON 74850C) with LT Touch would I still be able to do the JTAG hack later? I am not going to use the box online so I dont care about xbox live just want to make sure that I can play any game without having to use a boot cd.
3. If Lt Touch will prevent me from doing the JTAG hack later what firmware should I use instead?
Thanks.
Post by: calloused labia on February 09, 2010, 01:23:00 AM
MRA is needed for the calibration data. Not for the key. Neither are related to the JTAG hack
2 If I were to flash the drive (Lite-ON 74850C) with LT Touch would I still be able to do the JTAG hack later? I am not going to use the box online so I dont care about xbox live just want to make sure that I can play any game without having to use a boot cd.
The JTAG hack is unrelated to the firmware version on the drive. 1.6NS, 1.61NS, and LT play all waves without a boot cd.
*NS = Non stealth
3. If Lt Touch will prevent me from doing the JTAG hack later what firmware should I use instead?
See last answer.
Post by: barndon on February 09, 2010, 07:18:00 PM
QUOTE(calloused labia @ Feb 9 2010, 12:23 AM)
1. Do I have to do a MRA dvd key extraction to get the calibration data and original keys before I flash in order to do the Jtag hack?
MRA is needed for the calibration data. Not for the key. Neither are related to the JTAG hack
2 If I were to flash the drive (Lite-ON 74850C) with LT Touch would I still be able to do the JTAG hack later? I am not going to use the box online so I dont care about xbox live just want to make sure that I can play any game without having to use a boot cd.
The JTAG hack is unrelated to the firmware version on the drive. 1.6NS, 1.61NS, and LT play all waves without a boot cd.
*NS = Non stealth
3. If Lt Touch will prevent me from doing the JTAG hack later what firmware should I use instead?
See last answer.
Thank you so much for the quick response and thanks c4e and others who worked on the firmware. So I guess I'm going LT Touch then. Maybe later when I have the time and patience Ill do the Jtag hack. BTW love the signature calloused labia.
Post by: ccfman2004 on February 09, 2010, 07:31:00 PM
QUOTE(barndon @ Feb 10 2010, 03:18 AM)
Thank you so much for the quick response and thanks c4e and others who worked on the firmware. So I guess I'm going LT Touch then. Maybe later when I have the time and patience Ill do the Jtag hack. BTW love the signature calloused labia.
Where are you located? If you are in the USA I can Jtag your console for you.
Post by: bubble_gum on February 12, 2010, 10:45:00 AM
Post by: Reaper527 on February 12, 2010, 01:27:00 PM
QUOTE(bubble_gum @ Feb 12 2010, 12:45 PM)
I have some idea. I want to spoof liteon as benq with lt. Do you think it will increase chance of ban or not?
it won't increase your chances, because it isn't possible. the lt firmware doesn't support spoofing.
QUOTE(barndon @ Feb 9 2010, 02:25 AM)
3. If Lt Touch will prevent me from doing the JTAG hack later what firmware should I use instead?
Thanks.
you know that you need a 7xxx dashboard version to do the jtag hack, right? odds are you have already played a game by now that forced you to update past this.
Post by: ccfman2004 on February 17, 2010, 12:52:00 AM
QUOTE(hambrook @ Feb 17 2010, 08:34 AM)
I have an issue with Modern Warfare 2, I have patched the SS v2 and DMI but am failing at the PFI. Is there a way to patch this as well? Here is the abgx360 output:
Checking Game
ISO: "C:\codmw2.iso"
Size: 7838695424 bytes (SplitVid 3rd or 4th wave)
Files in ISO: 149, Folders in ISO: 1
Total bytes used: 7255543454 (99.41%)
Game appears to have random padding
Checking default.xex
Original PE Filename: iw4sp_ship.exe
Original PE Timestamp: 2009/09/26 05:30:28
Game Name: Modern Warfare® 2
Developer: Infinity Ward
Publisher: Activision
Genre: First Person Action
No Avatar Awards
Achievements: 50 Achievements totaling 1000 Gamerscore
XEX CRC = 1F46C35A
XEX Media ID: F66327164FA486B27A77BBBF-2C8C0267
Region Code: 0xFFFFFFFF
Region Free!
Checking SS
Timestamp of Authoring: 2009/09/28 00:00:00
Timestamp of Mastering: 2009/10/02 17:48:48
SS Version: 2 (trusted)
SS CRC = F386D67F (RawSS = FADF001F)
SS Media ID: F66327164FA486B27A77BBBF-2C8C0267 (matches game)
SS looks valid
Checking DMI
Timestamp of Authoring: 2009/09/28 00:00:00 (matches SS)
DMI CRC = 0904E38B
DMI Media ID: F66327164FA486B27A77BBBF-2C8C0267 (matches game)
DMI looks valid
Checking PFI
PFI CRC = 2A4CCBD3
PFI is incorrect based on the date this game was authored (should have matched
4th wave)
Video partition found
Video CRC = 0E58FB9D (V0 = CF942E7B, V1 = 4809B37A)
Video partition is incorrect based on the date this game was authored (should
have matched 4th wave)
Stealth check failed!
Starting AutoFix
Looking for F386D67F1F46C35A.ini in the online verified database
Server file F386D67F1F46C35A.ini no newer than local file - not retrieving
Using F386D67F1F46C35A.ini (360 bytes)
Verifying PFI_05C6C409.bin is valid before using it for AutoFix
Checking PFI
PFI CRC = 05C6C409
PFI matches known data (4th wave - requires iXtreme v1.51 [Hitachi only],
v1.6 [using activation disc], v1.61 or later)
Failed to find or open 'Video_1914211B.iso' (No such file or directory)
This is a very large video partition that isn't hosted on the database...
You will have to find it elsewhere and put it in your StealthFiles folder
AutoFix Failed!
Modern Warfare 2 is a Wave 4 game. It looks like the ISO was patched with an earlier wave so it could be booted on an older iXtreme Firmware.
I would suggest to re-rip the game with an 0800 drive, assuming you actually own the game.
Post by: ccfman2004 on February 17, 2010, 02:22:00 AM
I personally don't recommend patching ISO's, but you may do as you wish. Just don't come complaining when you get banned.
Post by: Syn201 on February 17, 2010, 12:12:00 PM
Video_1914211B.iso is the 4th wave iso you need to fix the game
http://abgx360.net/README-4th_Wave.txt
http://abgx360.net/download.html ..
Post by: ccfman2004 on February 18, 2010, 12:27:00 AM
QUOTE(hollowtip @ Feb 18 2010, 08:23 AM)
Just a word of advice for people using the Port I/O drivers: disabling the via card and deleting the official drivers that come with your via card locks up my system every time when selecting my drive Via the SATA port. The only way I got it to correctly see the drive and flash correctly was enabling my via card and having the official drivers present.
It says in the official guide it's not advisable to do so, because the drive could potentially lock up during the flashing process, but I experienced the exact opposite.
Hope this may help anyone having issues with lockups.
I had to delete the drivers to prevent the lock-ups. You have to make sure that the VIA card IS enabled with an "Caution" symbol on it.
I have no issues with lockups at all since deleting the drivers. I had the lockups WITH the drivers installed.
Post by: ccfman2004 on February 18, 2010, 01:06:00 AM
QUOTE(hollowtip @ Feb 18 2010, 08:59 AM)
Yes, I understood what the tutorial says (disable device, then delete *.sys driver) and followed the instructions verbatim, but that's what caused the lockups. every time I went to select my 360 drive in MTK Flash 32 from the I/O port drop down menu, it would lock up my computer and I would have to restart. Couldn't read the drive or anything.
Reinstalled official drivers and I had no issues through the flashing process. I know it's complete contradictory to what the tutorial tells you to do, but with the configuration on my PC, that is the only thing that worked for me.
Obviously, I'd try first using the driver that is included with JungleFlasher, but the method I used was the only way it worked for me.
Definitely interesting.
Question. Are you using windows Vista or Windows 7? If so are you running JF in Admin Mode?
Post by: ccfman2004 on February 18, 2010, 02:20:00 AM
QUOTE(hollowtip @ Feb 18 2010, 10:08 AM)
No, I used XP.
Just an FYI though: I've had an issue with my card and a previous version of JungleFlasher in the past. Don't know if it is anyway related to this issue, but I couldn't get my BenQ drive in vendor mode. I downgraded to a previous version that I had no problems flashing with before, and I got it in vendor mode the first try.
I'm guessing that it has something to do with my motherboard not commuicating the way it should with the card and the Port I/O drivers that come with JungleFlasher, but I really don't know.
Maybe there is a problem with the PCI slot.
Post by: sidneysides on February 18, 2010, 02:46:00 AM
Post by: ccfman2004 on February 18, 2010, 02:52:00 AM
QUOTE(sidneysides @ Feb 18 2010, 10:46 AM)
I have a 60gB Pro with Lite-On that has 1.60 on it. I didn't actually get banned but using the test on the US Xbox website (the error when you try to get a repair) it appears that I'm flagged. Is it worth putting the LT on or will I just get banned as soon as I connect to live? I've been away from the scene since December when I bought an Elite but would love to get the old one working again too.
If you get the error on the repair site I would not bother connecting it to live ever again. You could put iXtreme LT on so you can still play backups offline without having to worry about the update waves.
Post by: slayer902 on February 18, 2010, 03:13:00 AM
QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Feb 18 2010, 10:52 AM)
If you get the error on the repair site I would not bother connecting it to live ever again. You could put iXtreme LT on so you can still play backups offline without having to worry about the update waves.
i wouldn't call that repair website thing entirely accurate (or at least not for those of us out of the US). 7 of my previous customers called me regarding this, and as of now 6 of them are safe (with LT). the last one was an idiot and deserved to get banned coz he was got impatient right in the middle of the banhammer. then again, that repair site was for americans so it might not have even have been for us in the first place.
Post by: sidneysides on February 18, 2010, 04:28:00 PM
QUOTE(slayer902 @ Feb 18 2010, 10:13 AM)
i wouldn't call that repair website thing entirely accurate (or at least not for those of us out of the US). 7 of my previous customers called me regarding this, and as of now 6 of them are safe (with LT). the last one was an idiot and deserved to get banned coz he was got impatient right in the middle of the banhammer. then again, that repair site was for americans so it might not have even have been for us in the first place.
Do you mean 6 of them got the error, put LT on and can now connect to live without triggering the ban?
Post by: slayer902 on February 18, 2010, 08:18:00 PM
QUOTE(sidneysides @ Feb 19 2010, 12:28 AM)
Do you mean 6 of them got the error, put LT on and can now connect to live without triggering the ban?
yeah.
10char
Post by: sidneysides on February 19, 2010, 12:52:00 AM
Post by: weeman007 on February 19, 2010, 06:59:00 AM
Post by: Bdan629 on February 19, 2010, 07:43:00 AM
Post by: sidneysides on February 19, 2010, 09:36:00 AM
Post by: ccfman2004 on February 19, 2010, 12:22:00 PM
QUOTE(sidneysides @ Feb 19 2010, 05:36 PM)
Which features exactly do you lose when you are banned? I mean, could I use my profile on my memory card and still build up gamerpoints or would it corrupt that as soon as I use it? Also, do you lose Media Center too?
As it has been said many times. You loose the ability to install games to the hard drive and Profiles and save games that are used after you are banned will appear corrupted on other consoles if you try to use them on an unbanned console.
Post by: jnr on February 20, 2010, 01:45:00 PM
QUOTE
Size is larger than necessary for SplitVid
When checking the disc directly within abgx.
and
QUOTE
Size is too large for SplitVid, truncating...
Truncating "/home/jnr/Desktop/x360/gta4.iso" to 7835492352 Bytes... Done
Truncating "/home/jnr/Desktop/x360/gta4.iso" to 7835492352 Bytes... Done
When checking a dd-extracted ISO.
I can always rip the original discs again and re-burn, but I'd like to save these discs if possible. Missing SplitVid obviously means a bad disc, but Google is completely sparse about discs that are too large. Has anyone seen this before?
Post by: kaosstar on February 28, 2010, 09:26:00 PM
QUOTE(Reaper527 @ Feb 12 2010, 03:27 PM)
it won't increase your chances, because it isn't possible. the lt firmware doesn't support spoofing.
I was under the impression that you could spoof if you had access to the original, virgin firmware that came on the drive you're trying to spoof. I'm basing that off a post from the ixtreme forum:
"You can still spoof the drive. Spoofing will copy over the necessary stealth data from the original drive and put it in the new one. So it will act like the original one sine you are spoofing it. There's always buying a drive with the same brand and firmware, but you don't have to."
I might just be confused.
Post by: ccfman2004 on March 01, 2010, 07:21:00 AM
QUOTE(kaosstar @ Mar 1 2010, 05:26 AM)
I was under the impression that you could spoof if you had access to the original, virgin firmware that came on the drive you're trying to spoof. I'm basing that off a post from the ixtreme forum:
"You can still spoof the drive. Spoofing will copy over the necessary stealth data from the original drive and put it in the new one. So it will act like the original one sine you are spoofing it. There's always buying a drive with the same brand and firmware, but you don't have to."
I might just be confused.
The latest version of Jungle Flasher, 1.71, does NOT ALLOW spoofing with iXtreme LT. It will now ignore any spoofing data.
Post by: mattjk on March 01, 2010, 09:40:00 AM
QUOTE(Bdan629 @ Feb 19 2010, 04:43 PM)
I was flagged....had a benq drive....flashed back to original....the instant I signed into live banned.....I wouldnt recommend it. If you want to try it I would at least take a full nand dumb beforehand so if you do get banned you can undo the disabled harddrive features easily
Or you could just WP the nand IIRC you need to ground pin 35.
Post by: ccfman2004 on March 06, 2010, 07:06:00 PM
This post has been edited by ccfman2004: Mar 7 2010, 03:09 AM
Post by: MidKnightSecs on June 14, 2010, 01:33:00 AM
XBOX 360 BenQ VAD6038
iXtreme v1.61
Is it worth upgrading to iXtreme 1.70 LT?
What is the difference? Is it LT or 1.70 LT or just 1.70?
And if there are differences, what are they?
BTW. Been running on live for almost 2 years modded. I keep upgrading due to not wanting to use a boot disc and take chances. But if 1.61 is Stealth and runs all waves I won't reflash. If LT is needed to run newer waves then I will. Is there a special procedure for LT or is it the same as before? So one more question...
Is LT needed to run a Wave that 1.61 cannot natively (Again, withOUT a boot disc)
Thank you all for you time. I wait with baited breathe.
-Mid
Post by: MidKnightSecs on June 22, 2010, 03:00:00 PM
I take it iXtreme LT is the next evolution in this, but I don't want something that will boot anything. I can throw a boot disc in 1.61 if I wanna do that, but I don't. I have no reason to care as long as 1.61 handles all the waves that LT handles. Really, i'd rather have the check than not. LT sounds like it's better if your banned cause it boots anything. No boot disc required, I remember 1.61 was designed not to boot non stealth to KEEP you from getting banned. OR so the theory went.
What I do know is this. I have had this unit for 2 years now and it hasn't been banned or flagged. However, I sent it back BEFORE I modded it, about a few weeks before the warranty was up, and they fixed the RRoD with a REALLY cheesy copper tube and extra heat sink. Looks like a copper tube to a radiator from the GPU heatsink (It RRoDed within 2 weeks of that and they wanted $140 to fix it, so I did it myself with machine screws and arctic silver, oh and I took my RF shielding out to allow better airflow and less heat accumulation). Point was I sent it in, and a friend from MS said they take your console off the list (Seems every console they make is on the list until it's cleared) if you send it back for a repair and it checks out. She also told me about 20 different ways they check and why. Everything from tipster shit to checking the forums for those dumb enough to leave a real Gamertag in the forums and brag about having a modded console linked with that tag. All sorts of nifty things. Even the 1-800 tipster hotline.
But my question was not answered.
What is the difference between them, moreover, is there a wave 1.61 doesn't handle natively and LT does? That is the MOST important question for me, I have, and update, abgx so if LT is the way to go I will and stealth my shit myself. I can trust myself. But if 1.61 handles all the same waves, just won't boot non stealth without a boot disc, I will leave it all alone.
Anyone?
-Mid
Post by: Buzzcut on June 22, 2010, 04:03:00 PM
LT is the only way to go. It's safe at the moment on Live and will boot all waves but it puts all the reliance on the user, abgx, stealth patching etc.
Post by: MidKnightSecs on June 22, 2010, 05:26:00 PM
So LT is the only firmware undetectable at the moment, and you need to stealth it all yourself if you wanna be safe. I do find it odd that it doesn't stealth check, but it's ok.
Thank you for the answer.
Last question:
Does 1.61 read all waves? Or is there a new one or more that it's not compatible with (Not counting the boot disc)?
Thank you all again.
-Mid
Post by: brandogg on June 22, 2010, 05:56:00 PM
Post by: LittleBH on June 23, 2010, 08:45:00 AM
QUOTE(iateshaggy @ Jun 23 2010, 02:13 AM)
xtreme 5.3a for samsung is non stealth, boots everything, and for the time being is undetectable.
And Santa Claus is married to the tooth fairy! If Xtreme 5.3a was undetectable - why the hell would c4eva spend his time creating LT for Sammy Drives?
Post by: iateshaggy on June 23, 2010, 11:18:00 AM
Post by: boneym on June 23, 2010, 12:20:00 PM
QUOTE(iateshaggy @ Jun 23 2010, 06:18 PM)
because you are a moron and an asshole. if you don't know something try asking in a respectable manner instead of talking shit. now i'm not telling you the answer which leaves you still being a moron and asshole, if you showed a little respect i would have at least cured your moron side.
LittleBH is neither an asshole or a moron, its highly unlikely he would need any help from anyone is this forum.
But if you knew who he is ,you wouldnt be so disrespectful yourself and accept he is correct and you are wrong.So stop giving out incorrect information and stop taking the huff when you are corrected by those who are better informed than yourself.
Post by: iateshaggy on June 23, 2010, 01:29:00 PM
Post by: OggyUK on June 23, 2010, 01:54:00 PM
Cool.
Post by: OggyUK on June 23, 2010, 02:11:00 PM
Post by: OggyUK on June 23, 2010, 02:30:00 PM
I just hex compared 53a to Sammy LT
At least they are similar
Post by: MidKnightSecs on June 23, 2010, 03:56:00 PM
Now I am left with To LIVE or not to live and I am being told slightly confusing info.
However, I haven't signed into LIVE in over a month so I will probably upgrade to LT to be safe.
Thank you all.
-Mid
Post by: iateshaggy on June 23, 2010, 04:18:00 PM
QUOTE
OggyUK
May 13 2010, 01:57 PM
5.3
The firmware *isnt* safe regardless, I'd rather give someone the option of booting pure shit (5.3) than only disabling a video partition check (1.6x NS).
Even if they only utilise the TRUE non stealth aspect of it after a banning in the future.
Saves them a reflash.
Post by: boneym on June 23, 2010, 04:42:00 PM
PMSL
Post by: OggyUK on June 23, 2010, 11:23:00 PM
QUOTE(iateshaggy @ Jun 23 2010, 06:18 PM)
because you are a moron and an asshole. if you don't know something try asking in a respectable manner instead of talking shit. now i'm not telling you the answer
As LttleBH only asked on question (based on one question mark being used) -
That then tells me you know the answer as to why c4e wrote Sammy LT (based on what I highlighted) - If 5.3a is safe (as you claim), it can't be for security, maybe you could share us an insight, you already know his priorities too.
Post by: LittleBH on June 24, 2010, 12:25:00 AM
But it's plainly obvious to anyone - Sammy LT exists because ALL previous fw is detectable!
FYI: Incase anyone believed my (suposedly)moronic asshole type previous comments - Santa Claus is actually married to Mrs Claus, (technically he'd be having an affair with the tooth fairy!)
Post by: iateshaggy on June 24, 2010, 12:32:00 AM
Post by: LittleBH on June 24, 2010, 12:42:00 AM
QUOTE(iateshaggy @ Jun 24 2010, 07:32 AM)
littlebh, u know as well as anyone i will eat my words if u catch me slipping, but i just wanna know how so many people i personally know are using 5.3 and properly patched games are still safe?
maybe it's your definition of the word safe that needs to be looked at.
What you mean to say is "Not currently Banned"
M$ as always dont ban everyone! - never have, never will
They keep us guessing.
I know of identical setups one banned one not! Identical games played!
does it mean the unbanned one is safe?
No.
There have been plently people banned using 5.3a before - it hasn't changed - so why would you presume it's safe?
Post by: iateshaggy on June 24, 2010, 12:49:00 AM
Post by: LittleBH on June 24, 2010, 03:23:00 AM
QUOTE(iateshaggy @ Jun 24 2010, 07:49 AM)
i understand your point, i have one guy that until last week was still using 1.6 and not banned, but i know many people using 5.3 that aren't banned and none since last november that are. the only logical explanation i can draw from this is they aren't checking for 5.3 vulnerabilities right now. i do agree, we probably have different definitions of safe, but i literally mean safe right now until a dash update is received.
Again you are not fully understanding the concept!
Just because they have not been banned yet doesn't mean m$ dont know they have a flashed drive!
If the likes of yourself, go round telling everyone they are "safe" using 5.3a (meanwhile m$ can easily spot that they are using hacked fw - but are chosing not to ban them yet!)
How many more people will they have 'on file' ready for the next banwave because of your statements?
at which point, when the time comes, you will no doubt claim that the next dash update has detected the 5.3a fw - when in fact all you have done is increased the total number of people banned by ill advising them!
In short - when c4eva announced LT he publically stated that ALL previous fw's are detectable!
do you have the technical knowledge to disagree with his statements? - I know I don't!
Post by: jbradshw on June 29, 2010, 05:43:00 PM
Anyways, I was banned back in Dec 2009. So last night I flashed it to the LT firmware. I turned on the 360, tested out one of the games that I needed the swap disc for, and it's reading it as a DVD - basically just like before if I didn't use a swap disc. So i took one of the older games I had to make sure the firmware was working and it still reads it fine so I'm not sure what's up at this point. I thought this firmware was supposed to read all discs and not need the swap disc anymore.
Also, all my backups are on Verbatims if that makes any difference.
Update - OK I tried using the swapdisc, and that allows me to play these newer games, so as of right now I'm not seeing any difference between 1.6 and LT (aside from the being detectable aspect which I don't care about obviously)
Post by: Buzzcut on June 30, 2010, 01:06:00 AM
Dump the drive again and check the firmware IS actually LT. I've done countless BenQs with LT and they've all tested fine with the latest waves.
Post by: ImRickJamesB1tch on June 30, 2010, 02:46:00 AM
Post by: tmacfan4321 on July 11, 2010, 05:51:00 PM
QUOTE(iateshaggy @ Jun 24 2010, 02:49 AM)
i understand your point, i have one guy that until last week was still using 1.6 and not banned, but i know many people using 5.3 that aren't banned and none since last november that are. the only logical explanation i can draw from this is they aren't checking for 5.3 vulnerabilities right now. i do agree, we probably have different definitions of safe, but i literally mean safe right now until a dash update is received.
Every modded console is "safe" until a ban wave comes.
Post by: frizza on July 30, 2010, 01:44:00 AM
Sorry if this has been asked before, pretty hard to read through all the ranting in the previous pages.