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Title: Liteon 74850c (help Me Please)
Post by: Chester716 on December 07, 2009, 02:06:00 PM
Hey all.

So I have a Liteon 74850c.

I'm using the probe and the other bit has serial or USB hook up. I'm trying with USB.

The drive is being detected on the sata port. The com 3 says ready.

I can't for the life of me get this thing to make a connection, it keeps saying "WARNING BAD SERIAL DATA"

no matter what. I've tried booting up, cd half in etc. a million times.....
Its like the probe isnt touching anything connectable on the part....ive tried putting it in the little circle.. I've tried putting it on the bottom pad above the circle between it and the number.. but nothing....

if i touch the spear on the circle next to the proper one. the cdrom closes and i have to restart....so clearly its not the probe.

heres the thing... i had red ring on this thing and sent it back for RMA... i got the new one back but the lil hole that ur supposed to probe has like a gold trim around it and the others dont... it looks like its been touched before.... i scraped the gold bit off it came off easily.. like an old thin piece of speaker wire or something.. but still no connection.. and dont spam me saying i ruined it scraping the bit off because i tried for HOURS trying to make a connection while it was on there. but it straight out looks entirely different then the other holes..

the dvd rom still is recognized and still plays dvds.....

is there any other point that I can spear or anyone have any other ideas.. cuz im fresh out....
I'm using jungle flasher.... in windows if that matters.

Thanks in advance for any help.


Title: Liteon 74850c (help Me Please)
Post by: apcarr on December 07, 2009, 02:49:00 PM
isnt there an led that changes colour when you make the right connection with the probe/spear?
Team Xecuters own CK3 Guide for a 74850 http://team-xecuter....-liteon-74850c/
Title: Liteon 74850c (help Me Please)
Post by: tiquio on December 07, 2009, 10:59:00 PM
try doing it through Dosflash. It may work better.

Personally Dosflash didn't work well during the reading portion for me. I initially tried using Dosflash with self made probe but I moved towards JF after little success with dosflash16. You may have better luck.
Title: Liteon 74850c (help Me Please)
Post by: Chester716 on December 08, 2009, 01:01:00 AM
ya.. no light changes on the spear when i touch the spots.. i read about that and looked for it...... seriously not making a connection.. i tried touching it every which way..

havent tried dos flash or using actualy 9 pin serial connection

This post has been edited by Chester716: Dec 8 2009, 09:02 AM
Title: Liteon 74850c (help Me Please)
Post by: TheDemonIII on December 08, 2009, 01:26:00 AM
r u making sure to power cycle the drive after putting the tray half open? that was what got me when i first did liteons.
Title: Liteon 74850c (help Me Please)
Post by: dougiegillam1357 on December 08, 2009, 07:01:00 AM
Are you using a CK3? Try using the serial interface on comm1? Was the drive flashed previously before you sent it back to MS for RROD repair. Sounds to me that piece of wire you scraped away was the way it was done before the probe/spear came out. I take it you are using Junglefalsher and the latest guide which tells you to do the half open trick prior to launching Jungle Flasher? You also mentioned it plays dvd,s fine, i take it plays original games too.
Title: Liteon 74850c (help Me Please)
Post by: Chester716 on December 08, 2009, 08:45:00 AM
thx for the replies so far.

it plays originals
it plays dvds.

its NEVER played a back up.

I agree with the comment about previously being soldered perhaps. That was my first thought as well.
No the system sent back was NEVER modified or even opened.
It was returned with a faceplate. I received a system back with a fresh face plate and my original face plate sitting on top in the box. Leads me to think this isn't the original system returned.

My friend bought a new one after this one stopped working. Too lazy to RMA it.. so I did it for him and he said I could keep it.

But he doesn't like modding his stuff for fear of breaking so this was never touched. But like I said I dont think this is the original system I sent out.

As for the process... I believe with the amount of times I've done this and variations, I woulda had to of accidentally got it right regardless... but heres what ive done:

So the usb cable is in the usb port, the power is going to the power (the correct way) and the spear is hooked up and shows a blue and yellowish(i think) leds....

I flick the switch OFF
turn the PC on
flick the siwtch ON
eject the tray
flick the switch OFF
push it in half way
then my system is now at "choose OS, windows XP or windows XP" and counts down from 15
I flick the switch ON and the drive is powered on half way
I choose the OS
load up jungle flasher
choose the correct IO port
shows the drive info etc
choose the com3
says its USB and its ready
I touch the probe...to the spot
hit the dvd32(or whatever the button is called)
WARNING BAD SERIAL DATA
I try the probe on the pad on the board insted of the little hole...
WARNING BAD SERIAL DATA


other than that... I've tried not power the drive on until windows is loaded.. sometimes freezes windows.. otherwise same results....

no light changes when i touch the spear to the indicated points.. and im SURE its the right points(hole and bottom pad)...ill try and post up a pic of what im looking at.....

Title: Liteon 74850c (help Me Please)
Post by: iateshaggy on December 08, 2009, 09:12:00 AM
are you sure you have a liteon74?
Title: Liteon 74850c (help Me Please)
Post by: Chester716 on December 08, 2009, 11:33:00 AM
ya it shows the model number on the dvd drive itself.. i cant rememebr off the top of my head but something like 16ds ... and it has the 74 number in jungle flasher when it detects it.
Title: Liteon 74850c (help Me Please)
Post by: dougiegillam1357 on December 08, 2009, 12:33:00 PM
Have you tried doing it dos via the serial?
Title: Liteon 74850c (help Me Please)
Post by: iateshaggy on December 08, 2009, 01:31:00 PM
32bit operating system?
Title: Liteon 74850c (help Me Please)
Post by: tinkergbr on December 08, 2009, 05:35:00 PM
QUOTE(Chester716 @ Dec 7 2009, 09:06 PM) View Post

Hey all.

So I have a Liteon 74850c.

I'm using the probe and the other bit has serial or USB hook up. I'm trying with USB.

The drive is being detected on the sata port. The com 3 says ready.

I can't for the life of me get this thing to make a connection, it keeps saying "WARNING BAD SERIAL DATA"

no matter what. I've tried booting up, cd half in etc. a million times.....
Its like the probe isnt touching anything connectable on the part....ive tried putting it in the little circle.. I've tried putting it on the bottom pad above the circle between it and the number.. but nothing....

if i touch the spear on the circle next to the proper one. the cdrom closes and i have to restart....so clearly its not the probe.

heres the thing... i had red ring on this thing and sent it back for RMA... i got the new one back but the lil hole that ur supposed to probe has like a gold trim around it and the others dont... it looks like its been touched before.... i scraped the gold bit off it came off easily.. like an old thin piece of speaker wire or something.. but still no connection.. and dont spam me saying i ruined it scraping the bit off because i tried for HOURS trying to make a connection while it was on there. but it straight out looks entirely different then the other holes..

the dvd rom still is recognized and still plays dvds.....

is there any other point that I can spear or anyone have any other ideas.. cuz im fresh out....
I'm using jungle flasher.... in windows if that matters.

Thanks in advance for any help.



Have you checked your Port32dll driver in Device Manager? Mcafee was disabling it,i changed to Norton and never had a problem since!!
Title: Liteon 74850c (help Me Please)
Post by: Chester716 on December 09, 2009, 07:46:00 PM
havent checked for the port driver.. ill do that now.. is there a guide to a dos flash ... donno how to do that one

thanks..

Title: Liteon 74850c (help Me Please)
Post by: shiznu on December 09, 2009, 08:10:00 PM
QUOTE(tinkergbr @ Dec 8 2009, 06:35 PM) View Post

Have you checked your Port32dll driver in Device Manager? Mcafee was disabling it,i changed to Norton and never had a problem since!!

Same problem here with mcafee had to disable mc and reinstall. Jungle Flasher worked fine for me after that.
Title: Liteon 74850c (help Me Please)
Post by: Chester716 on December 09, 2009, 08:18:00 PM
ok.. ive tried serial cable through jungle flasher now.. no luck...

driver is fine.

32 bit OS.

.......  i tried taking a pic of the point but its too small... camera cant focus ..


*Sigh* i donno...
Title: Liteon 74850c (help Me Please)
Post by: Chester716 on December 09, 2009, 09:41:00 PM
when jungle flasher detects it.. only other thing is..

it says



74850..... no C at the end.... i doubt that matters tho
Title: Liteon 74850c (help Me Please)
Post by: LiquidXed on December 10, 2009, 07:00:00 PM
same prob here 74850c A0A2. i think the r707 points are dead . im uses maximus xtractor pro.ive tryed everythin in the jf guide, max, n the ck3 and post i could find. nothin is workin???????? ive even made a probe soldered 2 the closest 2 the plug side of the r707 n pinned it 2 the d52 point with no luck.???????
Title: Liteon 74850c (help Me Please)
Post by: Chester716 on December 10, 2009, 07:37:00 PM
im using the maximus one as well.....


i just read the manual and from what i understand there should be ONE green power light on the probe and only lights blue when u make connection to the right spot.. well mine lights up blue soon as there is power to it and where gren light should be is yellow....



donno if that means anyhting......... ?
Title: Liteon 74850c (help Me Please)
Post by: LiquidXed on December 11, 2009, 09:44:00 PM
im usen maximus xtractor pro, jumped the r707 point so i dont need the probe. but still cant get the key
Title: Liteon 74850c (help Me Please)
Post by: Chester716 on December 12, 2009, 12:36:00 AM
maybe ur solder job is bad?


well hers my epic story..


the spear would lightup blue soon as there was power to it...
i took it back and got another.. this one didnt light up blue it lit up green and no blue on the other led
i touched it to the point.. it lit blue.. grabbed key... first try.... go figure...
then i went on to erase.......failed
erased again.... got the not vendor found or wahtever
erased again.....
again.....again.......same shit......
rebooted liteon... froze pc....
couldnt boot up again......cuz it kept freezing pc..

got dos flash v1.7..
used HP USB boot drive maker and win98 files to create dos boot stick
put dosflasher 1.7 on it
firmtool and dummy.bin and ix16....bin
as well as liteon erase.exe

booted into dos

typed

l-o-erase 09f0
gave me ff80
typed:
l-o-erase 09f0
gave me ff72
powered the drive off and on fast

type

firmtool dummy.bin IX16-L~1.bin
says it was successfuly     (dummy.bin being the file i xtracted with the probe)

typed

dosflash

pressed: 4

typed: W

typed: IX16-L~1.bin

said:

erased......blah blah.. writing....successful...


i assumed i was done..

i got an iso.. used abgx to check it.. all went smooth.. burned it to a DL+ disc....

CAN NOT READ DVD MEDIA when tried in XBOX>..


i dont know what the hell to do anymore!










Title: Liteon 74850c (help Me Please)
Post by: Chester716 on December 12, 2009, 11:13:00 AM
ok. well regular games work fine..

i verified in jungle flasher that firmtool definately changed the key to the correct one on the ixtreme....sooo

i just read about this acticate disc u need... didnt know about that... trying it now...

will report back.

Edit:  activate disc works....guess the game was a wave 4 game i was trying... makes sense.....

hope this posts helps others.......

long story short....

get key from jungle flasher.

then use

hpusb utility and win 98 files to boot to dos from usb stick put the below programs on the stick as well

liteonerase to erase the drive do this twice
firmtool to apply dummy to ixtreme
dosflash to write it

thansk all for the help.

This post has been edited by Chester716: Dec 12 2009, 07:21 PM
Title: Liteon 74850c (help Me Please)
Post by: amp2006 on December 12, 2009, 12:53:00 PM
for the writing you can simply Iprep .
Title: Liteon 74850c (help Me Please)
Post by: LiquidXed on December 12, 2009, 05:52:00 PM
so you got the key? good for u. i still cant get my key. im usen maximus xtractor pro, shouldnt need a probe. i have no clue anymore. good 4 u though. i guess im goin to buy an fu***** spear then, this is crap. what brand did u get, and where? PM me if u dont want to post.

Yeh im pretty good at soldering, plus i tested with my meter, and everything is good..

This post has been edited by LiquidXed: Dec 13 2009, 02:01 AM
Title: Liteon 74850c (help Me Please)
Post by: Chester716 on December 12, 2009, 10:48:00 PM
try the probe.. its like $14 for a proper probe here.... cant be much more there.. just grab one. scrap the solder apprach and do it...

then follow my instructions in DOS..


now that ive done all this. i can do it in like 5 mins........

ive never done solder jobs on xbox tho.. only wii, ps2 and psx... so i cant help u with THAT....
Title: Liteon 74850c (help Me Please)
Post by: Chester716 on January 20, 2010, 07:35:00 PM
sorry didnt se ur msg about where i bought


gocybershop website..


they have a local store front here in Waterloo Ontario..

never ordered online there tho...as i aid. the first one i bought form them was faulty.. they exchangd hasle free in person tho..