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According to the Team Jungle Twitter... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) LT is done!
Look for yourself
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Wonder if they're using any monkeys for testing.
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Friday release then?
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QUOTE(lcflexa @ Dec 1 2009, 12:14 AM)

Friday release then?
Depends on if the test on the testing is tested...and if the adjustment of the testing data is tested for unforeseen situations.
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QUOTE(bootstrapbill @ Dec 1 2009, 02:20 AM)

Depends on if the test on the testing is tested...and if the adjustment of the testing data is tested for unforeseen situations.
hehehe nice one bootstrapbill. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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It sucks we're being kept in the dark...but we all know why. Still sucks though!
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just in time for christmas. :0
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lmfao had to quote that...and then the final test is us testing it...anyone want to be first??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pop.gif) I'll watch (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
This post has been edited by under420dog: Dec 1 2009, 01:42 AM
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If i were M$, and were reading this thread,
i'd send the banning team on a payed holliday, only to start banning after a month after release of the new fw
'poor lonely computer'.....
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Nice to know the guys are doing alot of testing before making this firmware public,
I look forward to trying it myself though
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Tick tock.. Can't wait to get back on Live!
This post has been edited by [email protected]: Dec 1 2009, 03:32 AM
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QUOTE(a360 @ Nov 30 2009, 06:52 PM)

If i were M$, and were reading this thread,
i'd send the banning team on a payed holliday, only to start banning after a month after release of the new fw (IMG:
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'poor lonely computer'.....
You know, they "promote" this, and whats to say MS isn't going to get their hands on this, and find a way to break/crack this, and continue the ban wave. I am sure MS has trolls on this forum that will be putting this on their 360s, and finding out how it works, only for MS to quickly implement this into their ban wave.
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QUOTE(gizbug @ Dec 1 2009, 03:24 AM)

You know, they "promote" this, and whats to say MS isn't going to get their hands on this, and find a way to break/crack this, and continue the ban wave. I am sure MS has trolls on this forum that will be putting this on their 360s, and finding out how it works, only for MS to quickly implement this into their ban wave.
Thank you for clarifying this for the members of the forum who are complete f***ing idiots (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Big thanks to Team Jungle and I can't wait to test it!
This post has been edited by sini: Dec 1 2009, 04:36 AM
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Its all a game, you play, you pay. eventually we will get burnt, nothing is forever, enjoy the ride, anyone else with more segways
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you have to know that M$ will likely turn off bans for a while.. wait til all the little shits get new 360's for XMAS, then just a few days afterwards.. BAN!!!
it could happen...
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Yay, the first time I have gotten excited about Twitter.
Twitter FTW!
(IMG:http://lonewolflibrarian.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/twitter-bird-wallpaper.jpg)
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awesome news, wonder how long the the "more testing" will last lol
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To be fair, the software developers (C4E) have never been wrong about the modded firmware and its use with xbox and Live. Problems only occur when MS change the rules through software updates, so there is no reason to doubt that the new firmware will work flawlessly with Live. The only time people should be dubious and stay off live is when a new update comes out. Up to that point I have full confidence in Ixtreme and its future successors.
Not quite sure about that, mate. I take full responsibility for modding my consoles, but it's not as if C4E discovered anything until the ban wave hit. Even as it began, he was saying Live logs were fine, etc., so something obviously got past him for a good while.
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QUOTE(bootstrapbill @ Dec 1 2009, 12:20 AM)

Depends on if the test on the testing is tested...and if the adjustment of the testing data is tested
lool.
QUOTE(sini @ Dec 1 2009, 04:34 AM)

Thank you for clarifying this for the members of the forum who are complete f***ing idiots
lol.
QUOTE(T3XA5360R3B3L @ Dec 1 2009, 05:08 AM)

you have to know that M$ will likely turn off bans for a while.. wait til all the little shits get new 360's for XMAS, then just a few days afterwards.. BAN!!!
it could happen...
could but probably won't, ms usually only does anual november bans, to seeminly boost holiday sales.
but i think this time alot won't be giving in to ms, but some will of course.
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This post has been edited by [email protected]: Dec 1 2009, 07:07 AM
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Omg, *orgasm*
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Tick tock.. Can't wait to get back on Live!
Same here, I haven't turned my Xbox on since the banwave first started. This is the longest I have every gone without playing - especially with Forza 3 and MW2 tempting me!
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Don't get too excited yet, this is only phase 10 of the testing stages. What they didn't tell you is that there are still 14 more, post-completion, testing phases to complete before it's actually released.
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new topic in #fw
LT FW COMPLETE, MOVING INTO TEAM TESTING STAGE, NO ETA, DONT ASK
i hope they release it b4 xmas
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Don't know why your all that excited about.....
Your console is probably already flagged, your chicken't out to plug-out of Live. If you close your eyes you don't see it coming but the hammer will still fall on ya !!
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QUOTE(sandeman22 @ Dec 1 2009, 10:43 AM)

Don't know why your all that excited about.....
Your console is probably already flagged, your chicken't out to plug-out of Live. If you close your eyes you don't see it coming but the hammer will still fall on ya !!

no my 360 is not flagged because its not modded yet
it never seen a ethernet cable because its brand new
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argh twitter is rubbish but great news on the firmware side
maybe they could ask for trialists ?? id be up for scrapping another xbox just for some play on live
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Can someone just clarify what this Split Vid thing is? Apparaently all backups will have to have this to be safe. My backups have been done on a kreon drive, so I'm guessing I got to do them all again? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) How do you know if your backups have splitvid?
This post has been edited by aswilbourn: Dec 1 2009, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE(aswilbourn @ Dec 1 2009, 02:36 PM)

Can someone just clarify what this Split Vid thing is? Apparaently all backups will have to have this to be safe. My backups have been done on a kreon drive, so I'm guessing I got to do them all again? (IMG:
style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) How do you know if your backups have splitvid?
open abgx360 go to misc /split vid /add if if isent valid or missing /auto fix 3 for downloaded backups and zero for your own rips on auto fix page 1st 3rd and 4th option and on options check everything but display ifo system and disable online functions go to file click save setting name one level 3 with level 3 auto fix and same with zero then load setting that apply to said game
open angx after you do that change to dvd if it is an dvd or iso if iso run full thing unitll end dont skip the crc or it wont check split vid
you will have to check all your games with this split vid option enabled and you will need a 0800 drive to rip games now as k drives wont do them correctly ..
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QUOTE(aswilbourn @ Dec 1 2009, 07:36 AM)

Can someone just clarify what this Split Vid thing is? Apparaently all backups will have to have this to be safe. My backups have been done on a kreon drive, so I'm guessing I got to do them all again? (IMG:
style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) How do you know if your backups have splitvid?
Easiest way to tell Splitvid
7.09gb size = Not valid
7.29gb size = Valid Splitvid
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QUOTE(kipper2k @ Dec 1 2009, 05:39 AM)

Its all a game, you play, you pay. eventually we will get burnt, nothing is forever, enjoy the ride, anyone else with more segways (IMG:
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Amen (or whatever) for that!
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QUOTE(Lucasvegan @ Dec 1 2009, 03:02 PM)

Sorry I'm new to this Splidvid thing.. I have to check the size of the DVD I have burned, that's it? Or the image itself?
I always downloaded games from torrents, from reliable release groups, do they have valid splitvid or depends on the game?
wow ban in 1 post... nice mate... nice....
LT will be released this week I think... or leaked........
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QUOTE(XOR101 @ Dec 1 2009, 10:15 AM)

wow ban in 1 post... nice mate... nice....
LT will be released this week I think... or leaked........
I'll just kick back and wait for the official, I never use leaked software, had bad experiences with it.
Just would like to say thank you to TeamJungle and C4E, you guys are gods to my 360 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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QUOTE(Lucasvegan @ Dec 1 2009, 08:02 AM)

Sorry I'm new to this Splidvid thing.. I have to check the size of the DVD I have burned, that's it? Or the image itself?
I always downloaded games from torrents, from reliable release groups, do they have valid splitvid or depends on the game?
research
This post has been edited by m6speed: Dec 1 2009, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(Lucasvegan @ Dec 1 2009, 11:33 AM)

Why ban in 1 post? Why the other guy can ask about it and I can't?
I'm lucky you are not an admin I'm pretty sure they will understand I'm new here.
Being new is no excuse. By signing up and posting, you agree that you've read the rules and understand the consequences for breaking those rules.
Anyway... can't wait for the firmware to be released... maybe I'll actually get a little bit more business once it gets out.
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QUOTE(Lucasvegan @ Dec 1 2009, 09:02 AM)

do they have valid splitvid or depends on the game?
it doesnt matter. u can always add it urself. abgx360 has options to check splitvid and add it if it is missing. just make sure to run all of your iso's that u "back up" through it before u burn.
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i would hate to reburn all my backups.
would the activate.iso work with Lite-extreme?
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QUOTE(timewaster @ Dec 1 2009, 11:51 AM)

i would hate to reburn all my backups.
would the activate.iso work with Lite-extreme?
the whole point of the new fw is to not need the activate.iso because it gets rid of essentially all stealth checks... why would u want to use it? and there is no such thing as "lite-extreme"
This post has been edited by TheDemonIII: Dec 1 2009, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE(timewaster @ Dec 1 2009, 11:51 AM)

i would hate to reburn all my backups.
would the activate.iso work with Lite-extreme?
probably, but your kidding right? the reason for the more stringent requirements is so you don't get banned from live.
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u dont have to reburn ur games if they don't have splitvid. splitvid isn't a requirement for games to boot on LT. If u look on their twitter it says "Note: backups need to have SplitVid from now on to be safe for LT" They need to have it to be safe on LT, not to boot. No activate.iso is going to be required.
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QUOTE(TheDemonIII @ Dec 1 2009, 06:47 PM)

u dont have to reburn ur games if they don't have splitvid. splitvid isn't a requirement for games to boot on LT. If u look on their twitter it says "Note: backups need to have SplitVid from now on to be safe for LT" They need to have it to be safe on LT, not to boot. No activate.iso is going to be required.
But the only point on LT is being safe, isn't it?
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it is to be as close to the original fw as possible. along with that comes safe.
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So if one used a kreon drive and Xbox backup creator to do their own backups would they have the split vid?
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so LT requires split vid? if my already burned(legal) copys dont have it they wotn work?
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QUOTE(bootstrapbill @ Nov 30 2009, 06:13 PM)

Wonder if they're using any monkeys for testing.
iXtreme LT was not tested on any animals (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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QUOTE(sini @ Dec 1 2009, 03:34 AM)

Thank you for clarifying this for the members of the forum who are complete f***ing idiots (IMG:
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Big thanks to Team Jungle and I can't wait to test it!
yeah idiots like you
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QUOTE(360beast @ Dec 1 2009, 12:23 PM)

so LT requires split vid? if my already burned(legal) copys dont have it they wotn work?
I'm sorry for how mean i'm about to be, but i'm getting F***ING tired of seeing this question asked! LT DOESNT REQUIRE ANYTHING! whatever you stick in the drive it will play! weather it has splitvid or not, weather it has proper DMI, proper XEX CRC, ect. Its your responsibility to make sure that your "legal" backups or downloaded copies are stealth, thats it! If you didnt have abgx add splitvid if it was not present then YES you will have to reburn all your games IF AND ONLY IF you want to be stealth online. If you dont add splitvid and you go on LIVE then YOU WILL GET BANNED. This LT firmware is not going to hold your hand and not boot any disc that is not made/stealthed properly.
I'm glad that I had abgx fix splitvid for all my backups that i burned. I wanted my discs to look as close to original as possible and that meant having splitvid. I didnt trust the firmware taking care of that kind of stuff and look what happened, all these checks ended up being what MS was able to detect. No offense to C4E, without him none of this would be possible, and i deeply respect his work, but I never did like all those checks he added into the firmware for all these noobs to make sure they are "playing safe" online
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delete plz
This post has been edited by rigger66: Dec 2 2009, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE(T3XA5360R3B3L @ Dec 1 2009, 05:08 AM)

you have to know that M$ will likely turn off bans for a while.. wait til all the little shits get new 360's for XMAS, then just a few days afterwards.. BAN!!!
it could happen...
Of course it could happen, no one is ever 100% safe... just safer than yesterday and hopeful you don't get hit by the banhammer. Anyone who mods and expects to never be banned is ignorant of the cat and mouse game and should probably stick to retail.
Glad to see LT is on it's way... going to apply it to my banned sammy just so I don't have to update it anymore. Might apply it to a new xbox too if I get ballsy enough to do so.
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Good show, I'm estatic for a release. Every time I use these ixtreme 1.61 and below firmwares I feel I will be banned, even since I been offline for over 2 months now. Of cause It means being very careful with backing up stuff.
Also for anyone asking questions, common read the entire thread don't be lazy its annoying when you get 10 people in a row asking howto backup stuff for LT and all when its been answered several times before.
DO NOT BE LAZY, READ THIS THREAD BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
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I don't know about the others but I read the entire thread and the answer was not in it.
I do not expect the firmware to "hold my hand". I asked a simple question similar to what someone else asked. My question concerned whether my method of backup (kreon drive in a PC using Xbox Backup Creator) would make a backup containing the SplitVid. Simple as that.
I withdraw my question since people want to get all huffy here and will ask it in the backup forum.
XBD
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Simple answer, your Kreon will get you banned, use a 0800 flashed samsung/benq/liteon xbox drive and connect it to your PC THEN run ABGX with disable writes ticked to check your image (level3 and videopadding + splitvid options on).
Thats about it, nothing more to be said, if you run download backups you want padding and splitvid checks on, but they may be missing some SS blocks and you will never know (till your banned) so its all a risk and MS will likely find a way to ban us all in time. We should get a couple months run with LT at least (fingers crossed), extremely hard to predict as know-one knows what MS knows, and if they know anything we don't know as of yet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
PS. Your question is best suited in the DVD-DL backup forum not here, it has been answered 100 times over there no doubt also.
This post has been edited by PRiME2008: Dec 2 2009, 01:09 AM
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QUOTE(Wompa164 @ Dec 1 2009, 01:17 AM)

Same here, I haven't turned my Xbox on since the banwave first started. This is the longest I have every gone without playing - especially with Forza 3 and MW2 tempting me!
That's not going to prevent you from getting banned.
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QUOTE(Goldeye @ Dec 2 2009, 12:25 AM)

That's not going to prevent you from getting banned.
You don't know that.
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he is saying that you may be flagged from previous offenses

Try putting your DVD drive back to stock and attempt to use xbox live with a original online and then see. I also think it may be a good idea to format your storage device before just in-case your profile has stored something while you been playing offline, it may have you flagged OFFLINE and may upload this ban to MS once you go online and ignore the fact you have all stock firmware etc...
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QUOTE(PRiME2008 @ Dec 2 2009, 12:47 AM)

he is saying that you may be flagged from previous offenses (IMG:
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Well indeed, no harm in keeping your box offline for the time being though, just in case you haven't been flagged yet.
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QUOTE(PRiME2008 @ Dec 2 2009, 12:07 AM)

Simple answer, your Kreon will get you banned, use a 0800 flashed samsung/benq/liteon xbox drive and connect it to your PC THEN run ABGX with disable writes ticked to check your image (level3 and videopadding + splitvid options on).
And why do you think Kreon will cause bans? Because of Challenge Types 24 and 25? Kreon decrypts the expected values... for the time being, that is enough.
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For the time being, once they start checking SSv2 challenge responses (which will be soon as LT comes out probably since MS read these forums no doubt) your kreon will be getting you banned. You will find out for yourself anyway...
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QUOTE(PRiME2008 @ Dec 2 2009, 03:30 AM)

For the time being, once they start checking SSv2 challenge responses (which will be soon as LT comes out probably since MS read these forums no doubt) your kreon will be getting you banned. You will find out for yourself anyway...
You have some reading to do...
Microsoft does not check for SSv1 or SSv2; those are scene developed sectors allocated to store the challenge responses. SSv2 is only important if/when Microsoft decides to get tricky... and when that happens, I suspect it'll make XBox-Scene news. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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QUOTE(Nailed @ Dec 1 2009, 11:42 PM)

You have some reading to do...
Microsoft does not check for SSv1 or SSv2; those are scene developed sectors allocated to store the
challenge responses. SSv2 is only important if/when Microsoft decides to get tricky... and when that happens, I suspect it'll make XBox-Scene news. (IMG:
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That is true, however...if that day comes, would you prefer to be in the group whose vulnerability makes news, or in the group that says "big deal, doesn't affect me"?
On the flip side, if they intended to use it, doesn't it seem like Microsoft would have done so by now? Perhaps as drives age and lasers deteriorate, it's not reliable enough to be usable for banning?
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Heh, if MS can't get past LT they will use it to ban people. They do not care if they ban a few thousand legit customers, its all money game and they are in full control of any bad-rep media. We just need the scene to be on the cutting edge so fewer of us get caught out by these brutal strategies MS is employing as of late to deter a minority.
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QUOTE(PRiME2008 @ Dec 1 2009, 05:47 PM)

he is saying that you may be flagged from previous offenses (IMG:
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Try putting your DVD drive back to stock and attempt to use xbox live with a original online and then see. I also think it may be a good idea to format your storage device before just in-case your profile has stored something while you been playing offline, it may have you flagged OFFLINE and may upload this ban to MS once you go online and ignore the fact you have all stock firmware etc...
Hey Prime....I'm curently safe per the 'Request repair' site. Was reading your post and wanted to be as safe as possible before trying Live again...The 'Format your storage device' comment you made is where I have a question. If I format, I'm going to lose all the contents, right? I have lots of Gamesaves and DLC for RockBand. Can I format without losing everything?
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QUOTE(Toddler @ Dec 2 2009, 06:10 AM)

That is true, however...if that day comes, would you prefer to be in the group whose vulnerability makes news, or in the group that says "big deal, doesn't affect me"?
On the flip side, if they intended to use it, doesn't it seem like Microsoft would have done so by now? Perhaps as drives age and lasers deteriorate, it's not reliable enough to be usable for banning?
I like to be informed. Blanket statements like SSv1 will get you banned, but SSv2 won't is complete BS. A plausible scenario where SSv2 would be needed is if the CR table has an expected value of say 90 degrees, but the actual sectors are 180 degrees apart. Would Microsoft have done so by now? Not necessarily since it creates other headaches.
QUOTE(PRiME2008 @ Dec 2 2009, 06:30 AM)

Heh, if MS can't get past LT they will use it to ban people.
Huh? What? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
QUOTE(PRiME2008 @ Dec 2 2009, 06:30 AM)

We just need the scene to be on the cutting edge so fewer of us get caught out by these brutal strategies MS is employing as of late to deter a minority.
This "stick it to the man" mentality is so lame. The scene is about the thrill of the hack, keeping 1 step ahead and keeping it fun. If Microsoft takes out another million hacked 360s, good for them... live with it and rejoice when the next work around is found.
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webhed I only offered it as a suggestion if you been playing offline with a profile allot. Its possible no data is stored? but who knows.. I just feel its best to be safe then sorry., Oh and yes you loose everything... Anyway try to play online IF LT comes out with all your offline data and let people know if you get banned somehow (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Also I do not like MS, and I will stick it to them as much as I like. There a extremely antitrust based company and don't deserve anyone's money but that's my opinion, I'm against most mega corps, that's just me sorry to offend. Shrug...
This post has been edited by PRiME2008: Dec 2 2009, 12:01 PM
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Prime I dont know why you say you hate them. You own a 360.Odds are you had an Xbox1.You probably use Windows and maybe even Internet Explorer.What you hate them because they ban you for likely illegally owning games that without the modded firmware or modchips would net them millions more worldwide?
Hell someone has to have money to make the games you play.I dont blame them at all for banning us. Im sure the money you have saved in games is far more than what it would cost you to buy another 360.Only dumbasses blame MS for banning us for illegally costing them money.Thats like stealing a car and then hating the person that owned it because they pressed charges on you.Banning is minor.Just be thankful they dont want to spend loads of money trying to prosecute people like the Napster incidents.
Are there any mega companies that do everything legit? Probably not but without them and mass production the economy would constantly be in turmoil with us being in the technology era.
I myself living in the US am glad that an American technology company is so successful. Most of the other successful tech mega corps come from Japan. Hell where do Sony and Nintendo come from? Japan.
Hell I wish Ford and GM and other American car companies made better vehicles than Japan but they dont. So I will buy a Toyota or Honda if i want depenability or quality.
If you dont live in the US or have anti American sentiment then I guess I can understand.
I will root on American companies but in the end I will buy the best quality and reliable product I can get.
I applaud MS for staying on top of there field.Mega company or not it is nice to see an American tech company that is not dedicated to war machines succeed and stay on top.
This post has been edited by ROBJETS: Dec 2 2009, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(HaredX @ Nov 30 2009, 11:56 PM)

Don't get too excited yet, this is only phase 10 of the testing stages. What they didn't tell you is that there are still 14 more, post-completion, testing phases to complete before it's actually released.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
I hate that it has to be tested... but if its not then we are all screwed when another million consoles are flashed with a faulty firmware. Oh well I'm probably already flagged even though I haven't been on live since two days after the jtag killing update.... why couldn't my xbox get the rrod sooner??????? WHY?
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QUOTE(xbox360sexual @ Dec 1 2009, 06:58 PM)

Well indeed, no harm in keeping your box offline for the time being though, just in case you haven't been flagged yet.
Exactly, he was quick to jump to conclusions . My Xbox was only 2 weeks old before the banwave started and I had only played 2 games on it, Borderlands (backup) and Forza 3 (retail), so I decided my chances of having been flagged previously were exceptionally low - I was just doing damage control.
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So another 14 testing runs to go, darn. I would like to know if this is coming for samsung/benq/lite-on drives or just lite-on alone.
ROBJETS LOL, ok.
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testing = selling FW to MS
j/k
This post has been edited by 360beast: Dec 3 2009, 06:46 AM
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QUOTE(360beast @ Dec 3 2009, 06:46 AM)

testing = selling FW to MS
j/k
wtf????? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) ...are you kidding???
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QUOTE(PRiME2008 @ Dec 2 2009, 11:32 PM)

So another 14 testing runs to go, darn. I would like to know if this is coming for samsung/benq/lite-on drives or just lite-on alone.
its coming out for all drives
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QUOTE(teknofranko @ Dec 3 2009, 09:11 AM)

wtf?????

...are you kidding???
He probably isn't
but the tinfoil is messing up his brain....
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QUOTE(webhed @ Dec 2 2009, 01:35 AM)

The 'Format your storage device' comment you made is where I have a question. If I format, I'm going to lose all the contents, right?
No flagging info gets saved to the hard drive.
DO NOT FORMAT
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CODE
Issues with non-verb media, more performance data, more code, more testing.
loooooooooooool
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QUOTE(Takashi @ Dec 3 2009, 04:56 PM)

No flagging info gets saved to the hard drive.
DO NOT FORMAT
And you know this how exactly?
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By reading!
...oh, and being able to comprehend what I read!
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QUOTE(Takashi @ Dec 3 2009, 06:15 PM)

By reading!
...oh, and being able to comprehend what I read!
I'm sorry, but for the life of me I just can't work out what you are saying.
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QUOTE(teknofranko @ Dec 3 2009, 03:11 AM)

wtf?????

...are you kidding???
did u not see the j/k?
fuckin read
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CLOSED
anyone want to add anything more about any other "tweets" Team JF does, put them in THIS thread:
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=697263
We're not gonna need a new thread every time someone from the team gets a new haircut etc.
This post has been edited by chorizo1: Dec 3 2009, 09:10 PM