Post by: daman22 on October 26, 2009, 04:12:00 PM
go there, supposedly c4eva said new FW by end of month on IRC
actual msg:
14:10 IRC:
c4eva:\ixtreme 1.61 Yes thats its name, will be the out by next week
or the end of the month it all depends on how i feels...
This post has been edited by daman22: Oct 26 2009, 11:14 PM
Post by: daman22 on October 26, 2009, 04:43:00 PM
Post by: Ranger72 on October 26, 2009, 04:47:00 PM
Post by: OggyUK on October 26, 2009, 04:47:00 PM
Poor English, more than 4 words in the sentence,
Even if I'm wrong, anyone thats spoken to c4 will get my point
AFAIK, there is no known Authoring Date to use as the 'Rule' for Wave 4, therefore, no-one knows the exceptions.
Again, knowing c4, he isnt going to release a half assed effort, it's just not his style - so without the date / exceptions / adding to fw / testing....
Not this month
Post by: daman22 on October 26, 2009, 04:51:00 PM
QUOTE(OggyUK @ Oct 27 2009, 12:47 AM) 
Possibly the mosy 'unlike c4' message Ive ever seen.
Poor English, more than 4 words in the sentence,
Even I'm wrong, anyone thats spoken to c4 will get my point
AFAIK, there is now known Authoring Date to use as the 'Rule' for Wave 4, therefore, no-one knows the exceptions.
Again, knowing c4, he isnt going to release a half assed effort, it's just not his style.
im ind new to all this, so I dont know much about c4....just thought i would sahare as i saw this on a few different forums...
dont know if its in th elinks I posted, but one place I read that 1.61 will be on xbins 1st, and shortly after it will be other places on the 27th.... so thats tomorrow... does c4 usually put out an official msg b4 release?
Post by: OggyUK on October 26, 2009, 05:00:00 PM
<+c4eva> No ETA on next iXtreme!
Or some shit,
I'm not going to get into a discussion of where it gets uploaded to, its never hard to find.
Post by: daman22 on October 26, 2009, 05:12:00 PM
Post by: syntaxerror329 on October 26, 2009, 05:13:00 PM
Post by: daman22 on October 26, 2009, 05:20:00 PM
QUOTE(syntaxerror329 @ Oct 27 2009, 01:13 AM)
#fw now says ix1.61 in development. That wasn't there yesterday.
what do u use to connect to it? it shows i connect but nothing there
Post by: Toddler on October 26, 2009, 05:32:00 PM
QUOTE(syntaxerror329 @ Oct 26 2009, 06:13 PM) 
#fw now says ix1.61 in development. That wasn't there yesterday.
Yes, it was there this weekend.
QUOTE(OggyUK @ Oct 26 2009, 05:47 PM)
AFAIK, there is no known Authoring Date to use as the 'Rule' for Wave 4, therefore, no-one knows the exceptions.
Again, knowing c4, he isnt going to release a half assed effort, it's just not his style - so without the date / exceptions / adding to fw / testing....
Not this month
I wish iX 1.61 would just ignore stealth entirely and boot backups, period. You'd never need to update firmware to handle new Wave X in the future. Otherwise, with every NXE update, we will be caught in this cycle of new Wave X games --> weeks waiting to determine authoring date --> new iX fw --> everybody flash.
Basically, I wish iX1.61 would just be a bug-free version of what iX1.51 was supposed to be. With ABGX verifying your rips before (and after) you burn them, there's no need to do it in the firmware. And if you're too lazy to verify your rips, you deserve to be banned.
Post by: Takashi on October 26, 2009, 05:37:00 PM
QUOTE(Toddler @ Oct 26 2009, 06:32 PM)
And if you're too lazy to verify your rips, you deserve to be banned.
Finally! someone said it!
Post by: xbox360sexual on October 26, 2009, 05:38:00 PM
QUOTE(Toddler @ Oct 27 2009, 12:32 AM)
Basically, I wish iX1.61 would just be a bug-free version of what iX1.51 was supposed to be. With ABGX verifying your rips before (and after) you burn them, there's no need to do it in the firmware. And if you're too lazy to verify your rips, you deserve to be banned.
I completely agree. ABGX360 negates any reason to have partition checking etc, and those who are lazy / stupid and don't verify their rips deserve what they get.
Post by: iateshaggy on October 26, 2009, 05:44:00 PM
Post by: daman22 on October 26, 2009, 06:36:00 PM
QUOTE(Toddler @ Oct 27 2009, 01:32 AM)
Yes, it was there this weekend.
I wish iX 1.61 would just ignore stealth entirely and boot backups, period. You'd never need to update firmware to handle new Wave X in the future. Otherwise, with every NXE update, we will be caught in this cycle of new Wave X games --> weeks waiting to determine authoring date --> new iX fw --> everybody flash.
Basically, I wish iX1.61 would just be a bug-free version of what iX1.51 was supposed to be. With ABGX verifying your rips before (and after) you burn them, there's no need to do it in the firmware. And if you're too lazy to verify your rips, you deserve to be banned.
read somewhere that theres a rumor that will will skip whatever detects which wave the game is, so it would be kinda like the actual stock FW.
Post by: OggyUK on October 26, 2009, 11:16:00 PM
QUOTE(daman22 @ Oct 26 2009, 11:12 PM)
is no one on irc #fw anymore? was told thats the channel for FW discussion
It's probably the last place I'd go for a discussion on firmware.
Post by: Tron[ADS] on October 27, 2009, 01:35:00 AM
At the moment its just plagued with people logging on and asking (for the millionth time) "is there any news?" which is so annoying as they clearly arent reading the topic line when they connect.
Post by: daman22 on October 27, 2009, 07:47:00 AM
QUOTE
' date='Oct 27 2009, 09:35 AM' post='4549941']
#fw is mostly full of retards these days and is more of a social chatroom. The only useful bit now is the topic line.
At the moment its just plagued with people logging on and asking (for the millionth time) "is there any news?" which is so annoying as they clearly arent reading the topic line when they connect.
#fw is mostly full of retards these days and is more of a social chatroom. The only useful bit now is the topic line.
At the moment its just plagued with people logging on and asking (for the millionth time) "is there any news?" which is so annoying as they clearly arent reading the topic line when they connect.
what programs ya use to connect to it? i tried xchat, is says im connected, but there nothing, not even the topic line....
Post by: joeyddr on October 27, 2009, 08:08:00 AM
QUOTE(daman22 @ Oct 27 2009, 09:47 AM)
what programs ya use to connect to it? i tried xchat, is says im connected, but there nothing, not even the topic line....
make sure you set it to connect to efnet... like irc.efnet.net or irc.prison.net
Post by: timmy01979 on October 27, 2009, 09:14:00 AM
Post by: sandeman22 on October 27, 2009, 09:40:00 AM
i think that this "news" is fully BS, did anybody knows the source ? Nope, didn't even come from iRc....(like C4eva himself)
every time a lot of pranksters throw something on a page and Hey, its for real
Post by: timmy01979 on October 27, 2009, 10:15:00 AM
QUOTE(sandeman22 @ Oct 27 2009, 04:40 PM)
i think that this "news" is fully BS, did anybody knows the source ? Nope, didn't even come from iRc....(like C4eva himself)
every time a lot of pranksters throw something on a page and Hey, its for real
I agree. I think it's BS. But still makes you wonder why C4E hasnt commented on this yet at all, starting to look like he is Retired.
Post by: BoNg420 on October 27, 2009, 10:23:00 AM
QUOTE(sandeman22 @ Oct 27 2009, 11:40 AM)
i think that this "news" is fully BS, did anybody knows the source ? Nope, didn't even come from iRc....(like C4eva himself)
every time a lot of pranksters throw something on a page and Hey, its for real
QUOTE(timmy01979 @ Oct 27 2009, 12:15 PM)
I agree. I think it's BS. But still makes you wonder why C4E hasnt commented on this yet at all, starting to look like he is Retired.
Someone stated one the previous page that #fw on efnet topic states IX1.61 soon or something, so thats pretty reliable to me.
Post by: Toddler on October 27, 2009, 10:26:00 AM
QUOTE(timmy01979 @ Oct 27 2009, 11:15 AM)
I agree. I think it's BS. But still makes you wonder why C4E hasnt commented on this yet at all, starting to look like he is Retired.
Will you idiots shut up, he's not retired.
Post by: DemisesAngel on October 27, 2009, 10:53:00 AM
QUOTE(timmy01979 @ Oct 27 2009, 11:14 AM)
I hear that 1.61 is coming out for Samsung and BenQ,, I hope there is support for Lite on also. I cant understand why he would bring out Samsung and not Lite on, most Samsungs are no good anymore.
I beg to differ, many of my friends have samsungs with ms25 or ms28 and haven't had an problems with them what-so-ever. Besides, my spare Sammy helps me backup my games. I find it quite useful ah thank you.
QUOTE(Toddler @ Oct 27 2009, 12:26 PM)
Will you idiots shut up, he's not retired.
I can just picture a guy standing against the wall with his head down and eyes closed listening to other people talking about this and him just abruptly yell "Will you idiots shut up!"
People were staring at me when I couldn't help but laugh. My day just got better, thanks Toddler
Post by: timmy01979 on October 27, 2009, 10:54:00 AM
QUOTE(Toddler @ Oct 27 2009, 05:26 PM)
Will you idiots shut up, he's not retired.
LOL, And how old r u??? shew. Calm down there Toddler. What proof of this do you have?? all indications are that he is in fact retired. He would have atleast commented on it. And C4E wouldnt release a fw for Samsung and BenQ thats retarded. Keep being a fool and believe it "it will be done when I feels like it" yeah that sounds like C4E. LMFAO.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Post by: Chrushev on October 27, 2009, 11:15:00 AM
In addition to that having stopped tracking MS traffic back in june (something that he has done almost every single day for years)...
And rumors circulating during the summer where someone said that C4eva is tired of people making money off of something he does for free so he is quitting.
all those things point to the fact that he is indeed retired. unfortunately...
Post by: xbox360sexual on October 27, 2009, 11:32:00 AM
Post by: DemisesAngel on October 27, 2009, 12:08:00 PM
QUOTE(Chrushev @ Oct 27 2009, 01:15 PM)
And rumors circulating during the summer where someone said that C4eva is tired of people making money off of something he does for free so he is quitting.
Making money off of someone's idea is nothing new. C4Eva, and when I say this I mean no disrespect, probably knew people would profit off his findings that he was giving out for free. History shows us time and time again that if you have something remarkable, there will always be people exploiting it and charging other people to use that finding. It is sad though that people are profiting from his findings and exploits, but if everyone was well off (In $ terms) then people would do it free and if they had the time. Hell, Linux is a good one to use as an example. People profit off open source and then turn around, make it better or different and sell it as their own.
Even if or when 1.61 or 1.7 come out, it will be quickly advertised by many that they can update/flash their customers firmware.
All in all, if you're going to have an idea and give it out to the public for free, you better be prepared for it to be used and profited from by so many others.
Post by: AtlantaMods on October 27, 2009, 12:18:00 PM
This post has been edited by AtlantaMods: Oct 27 2009, 07:19 PM
Post by: timmy01979 on October 27, 2009, 02:01:00 PM
QUOTE(xbox360sexual @ Oct 27 2009, 06:32 PM)
#fw says 1.61 in dev and c4e still chats in there so I've no idea why people are saying he's "retired" LOL
Lol and that makes it so huh? It would be on front page of xbox-scene if it was legit. And he wouldnt say it will be done when I feels like it??? And releasing it for Samsung and BenQ. I dont think so. It would be Liteon and Benq, easy giveaway. The guy is retired. FW says 1.61 in dev because some idiot is assuming it is in dev, when it's not.
Post by: xbox360sexual on October 27, 2009, 02:04:00 PM
Post by: timmy01979 on October 27, 2009, 02:44:00 PM
QUOTE(AtlantaMods @ Oct 27 2009, 07:18 PM)
* KarateBob changes topic to '| ? list | ? activate | iX 1.61 NO ETA
NO ETA could mean forever. You guys are morons who think that the forum post by some yo boy was C4E he's going to release in on a old samsung and not the liteon which most 360's have now.
Post by: robo989 on October 27, 2009, 03:01:00 PM
QUOTE(timmy01979 @ Oct 27 2009, 10:44 PM)
NO ETA could mean forever. You guys are morons who think that the forum post by some yo boy was C4E he's going to release in on a old samsung and not the liteon which most 360's have now.
Please STFU you fool. Anything that is posted as the heading on #fw channel is concrete true. If youy don't know this you there's no hope now kindly fuck off and stop spamming.
Post by: OggyUK on October 27, 2009, 03:04:00 PM
QUOTE(robo989 @ Oct 27 2009, 09:01 PM)
Anything that is posted as the heading on #fw channel is concrete true.
FLOL
If I was eating, I'd of spat my food out.
Post by: Takashi on October 27, 2009, 04:44:00 PM
Post by: robo989 on October 27, 2009, 05:01:00 PM
QUOTE(OggyUK @ Oct 27 2009, 11:04 PM)
FLOL
If I was eating, I'd of spat my food out.
lol
ok ok, concretely said in good faith (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
What hasn't been true, it can only be set by "decent" people so's don't get the whole C4E has retired and moved into an old folks home attitude?
Post by: ps2moduk on October 27, 2009, 07:10:00 PM
Post by: DemisesAngel on October 27, 2009, 08:56:00 PM
Post by: Cedru on October 27, 2009, 10:12:00 PM
QUOTE(DemisesAngel @ Oct 27 2009, 10:56 PM) 
C4Eva, just pulled up to my store on his giraffe and told me say he's moving to Nebraska and giving up the XBox hacking life. True Story
C'mon man... Have you ever noticed how one story, wen it finally gets said over and over is never how it Originally and Truly Started out?
There are a few problems with your statement.
1) He was not at your store, he was at Wal-Mart.
2) It was not a Giraffe, it was an Emu.
3) Yes, he is still moving to Nebraska... However
4) This is a half truth: He is Not fully giving up the Hacking Life, he is just giving up the XBox 360 Hacking life, his new, as well as his original passion is Commodore 64 - which is what he is going back to.
So, the true story from the beginning roots of it:
C4Eva rode into WalMart on an Emu with a backpack. He met up with Iriez who is now a cashier there and told him that he was going to live in Nebraska and start a Commodore 64 User Group hacking cult following, Only for true believers of the Vic 20, Commodore 64, and Commodore 128 Golden Age.
Post by: Takashi on October 27, 2009, 11:16:00 PM
QUOTE(Cedru @ Oct 27 2009, 11:12 PM)
Commodore
you had me at commodore
Post by: logicwatch on October 28, 2009, 01:55:00 AM
QUOTE(Cedru @ Oct 28 2009, 04:12 AM)
C'mon man... Have you ever noticed how one story, wen it finally gets said over and over is never how it Originally and Truly Started out?
There are a few problems with your statement.
1) He was not at your store, he was at Wal-Mart.
2) It was not a Giraffe, it was an Emu.
3) Yes, he is still moving to Nebraska... However
4) This is a half truth: He is Not fully giving up the Hacking Life, he is just giving up the XBox 360 Hacking life, his new, as well as his original passion is Commodore 64 - which is what he is going back to.
So, the true story from the beginning roots of it:
C4Eva rode into WalMart on an Emu with a backpack. He met up with Iriez who is now a cashier there and told him that he was going to live in Nebraska and start a Commodore 64 User Group hacking cult following, Only for true believers of the Vic 20, Commodore 64, and Commodore 128 Golden Age.
LOL
CAN YOU CONFIRM THIS DEFINATELY ?
Post by: joe90 on October 28, 2009, 02:08:00 AM
As for him retiring, maybe, but I think he just loves the game of cat and mouse with M$, so i suspect he does it for that more than anything else. Nobody knows, stop saying shite, as then other site that take xbs as gospel (for some reason) start mentioning that on news sites, then it spreads like wildfire and then basically self feeds the rumours, which is no doubt what is already happening.
Post by: headonism on October 28, 2009, 02:32:00 AM
QUOTE(joe90 @ Oct 28 2009, 08:08 AM)
Just maybe as there is a way to boot at the moment (activate disk) He is going to investigate the new FW and do a release for the lot in one go.
As for him retiring, maybe, but I think he just loves the game of cat and mouse with M$, so i suspect he does it for that more than anything else. Nobody knows, stop saying shite, as then other site that take xbs as gospel (for some reason) start mentioning that on news sites, then it spreads like wildfire and then basically self feeds the rumours, which is no doubt what is already happening.
well said...... The rumours and speculation dosnt help no-one, so people should just nip it in the bud now!
Post by: reddragon105 on October 28, 2009, 09:47:00 AM
QUOTE(Toddler @ Oct 27 2009, 01:32 AM)
Basically, I wish iX1.61 would just be a bug-free version of what iX1.51 was supposed to be. With ABGX verifying your rips before (and after) you burn them, there's no need to do it in the firmware. And if you're too lazy to verify your rips, you deserve to be banned.
Amen. A less stringent firmware means fewer updates will be needed. The version number 1.61 suggests a quick fix to remove partition checking to allow the playing of Wave 4 games only, as 1.51 was a quick fix for Wave 3 games. But with good backups there should be no need to add the checks back in in a future version.
Anyway, regardless of whether that statement is true or not, if a quick fix is all that's needed then hopefully we'll see it soon.
Post by: robo989 on October 28, 2009, 10:12:00 AM
QUOTE(reddragon105 @ Oct 28 2009, 05:47 PM)
Amen. A less stringent firmware means fewer updates will be needed. The version number 1.61 suggests a quick fix to remove partition checking to allow the playing of Wave 4 games only, as 1.51 was a quick fix for Wave 3 games. But with good backups there should be no need to add the checks back in in a future version.
Anyway, regardless of whether that statement is true or not, if a quick fix is all that's needed then hopefully we'll see it soon.
lol so they might as well just release 1.51 and call it 1.61
Nah I reckon they'll add an exception personally. Anyways hope they do relax the boot requirements...that way loads of wankers will get banned. I hate people who don't make proper backups and love the thought of them getting banned...ahhhhh glee.
Post by: ps2moduk on October 28, 2009, 10:29:00 AM
Post by: Fspiders on October 28, 2009, 10:39:00 AM
Ok I know its BS but i so wanted to be the first to spread this rumour and see it on hundreds of forums... My only claim to fame. LOL
Regards.
Post by: RMF on October 28, 2009, 10:49:00 AM
QUOTE(robo989 @ Oct 28 2009, 05:12 PM)
lol so they might as well just release 1.51 and call it 1.61
Nah I reckon they'll add an exception personally. Anyways hope they do relax the boot requirements...that way loads of wankers will get banned. I hate people who don't make proper backups and love the thought of them getting banned...ahhhhh glee.
Nice attitude. Wanker.
Post by: syntaxerror329 on October 28, 2009, 11:21:00 AM
QUOTE(robo989 @ Oct 28 2009, 12:12 PM)
I hate people who don't make proper backups and love the thought of them getting banned...ahhhhh glee.
I can't say i totally disagree with you. People should be making proper backups (of games they legally own)
Anyone playing games early and getting banned did get what they deserved.
But as someone that offers modification services, it is very bad negitive publicity to hear hundreds of people saying they got thier firmware modded and now they are banned.
Post by: hurley131 on October 28, 2009, 12:17:00 PM
http://forums.afterd...onight-809613/3
Post by: hobogoonie on October 28, 2009, 12:34:00 PM
When all the shit kicked off with Iriez and other (C4E) very well respected people in the scene I was gutted. I admire those guys so much. The work that they have all done is incredible. But the lack of respect people on this forum showed to them was terrible! Calling them this and that cos of the key extraction thing for the newer liteon's. I hope that a lot of people reading this thread feel guilty to what they have contributed to, if C4E has left the scene.
Everyone wants a new firmware, but too many people think that they deserve it for whatever reason. Thats just crazy! The work that has gone into previous firmwares and hacking tools has just not been appreciated enough. I for one feel very sad at the state of things at the moment, but I cant help feeling like this is what the majority deserve!
Post by: sandeman22 on October 28, 2009, 12:44:00 PM
3iXtreme 1.61 will be available via xbins and shortly after on other sources on Tuesday the 27th of this month.
translated it's this....
"As many expected, C4Eva has confirmed that iXtreme 1.61 for the samsung, benq and-would soon be available. We do not have precise information on the date of release, but we can expect to have the firmware here next week. Remains more to be seen if this Ixtreme will be also focused on the readers Hitachi. "
Now anyone who flashes Xbox's already knows supporting Samsung is well, useless most current and modern drives are BenQ and LiteOn and I'm sorry but c4eva worries about those first, he did it with 1.6. Hitachi was never supported in 1.6.....
Also the "real" rumor which was talked about in the chat was that 1.61 just simply removes checking the video sector or wave all together, basically what a stock drive does.
note from poster: a very big Wahahaha (IMG:http://www.seat-online.nl/forum/Smileys/seat-online/rofl.gif)(IMG:http://www.seat-online.nl/forum/Smileys/seat-online/rofl.gif)
will be available on Tuesday the 27th of this month. (IMG:http://www.seat-online.nl/forum/Smileys/seat-online/sign0103.gif) (IMG:http://www.seat-online.nl/forum/Smileys/seat-online/sign0103.gif) (IMG:http://www.seat-online.nl/forum/Smileys/seat-online/sign0103.gif)
This post has been edited by sandeman22: Oct 28 2009, 07:46 PM
Post by: Cilix on October 28, 2009, 12:46:00 PM
QUOTE(hobogoonie @ Oct 28 2009, 02:34 PM)
I don't post very often but this thread has really done my head in.
When all the shit kicked off with Iriez and other (C4E) very well respected people in the scene I was gutted. I admire those guys so much. The work that they have all done is incredible. But the lack of respect people on this forum showed to them was terrible! Calling them this and that cos of the key extraction thing for the newer liteon's. I hope that a lot of people reading this thread feel guilty to what they have contributed to, if C4E has left the scene.
Everyone wants a new firmware, but too many people think that they deserve it for whatever reason. Thats just crazy! The work that has gone into previous firmwares and hacking tools has just not been appreciated enough. I for one feel very sad at the state of things at the moment, but I cant help feeling like this is what the majority deserve!
I agree with this 100%. I lurk on here much more then I post and feel that way too many people think they deserve new firmware like its a right. Everyone that produces anything for the x360 scene including C4E do it for free and on their own free time. Im pretty sure they have their own personal lives to consider first before anything else.
Too many people flame on this board constantly. Perfect example being, I dont recall his nick, but the first person to discover a Benq drive but did not have photo proof. He was flamed beyond belief on here, but then I found the same VA6039 drive and submitted pictures to this website which was posted on the news page. Quite a few apologies in that thread.
Everyone needs to get their panties out of a bunch and relax. Your lucky that there are so many dedicated individuals working hard to keep their work current and its all free to us.
Post by: Toddler on October 28, 2009, 12:48:00 PM
QUOTE(syntaxerror329 @ Oct 28 2009, 12:21 PM)
I can't say i totally disagree with you. People should be making proper backups (of games they legally own)
Anyone playing games early and getting banned did get what they deserved.
But as someone that offers modification services, it is very bad negitive publicity to hear hundreds of people saying they got thier firmware modded and now they are banned.
I think you're overstating the case.
Currently, the firmware won't boot a bad backup. At this point, the user either learns to use the tools to rip and verify correctly, or they use activate.iso and become a ban waiting to happen.
All you're changing by taking stealth check out of the firmware is process. Instead of expecting the 360 to inform you of a bad backup after the fact when it won't boot, let ABGX handle that before you burn instead. Anybody who thinks that's too confusing just shouldn't be swimming in these waters.
The only people I can see really being affected are people who purchase backups from their local dealer, since they have no clue about such things. Frankly, I don't feel much for people buying backups, and I certainly have no sympathy for anyone selling them.
It comes down to the same old issue: do you give a man a fish, or do you teach him to fish for himself? People who would be banned if the firmware didn't protect them simply need to learn a better way.
Post by: OggyUK on October 28, 2009, 12:53:00 PM
QUOTE(hobogoonie @ Oct 28 2009, 06:34 PM)
I don't post very often but this thread has really done my head in.
When all the shit kicked off with Iriez and other (C4E) very well respected people in the scene I was gutted. I admire those guys so much. The work that they have all done is incredible. But the lack of respect people on this forum showed to them was terrible! Calling them this and that cos of the key extraction thing for the newer liteon's. I hope that a lot of people reading this thread feel guilty to what they have contributed to, if C4E has left the scene.
Everyone wants a new firmware, but too many people think that they deserve it for whatever reason. Thats just crazy! The work that has gone into previous firmwares and hacking tools has just not been appreciated enough. I for one feel very sad at the state of things at the moment, but I cant help feeling like this is what the majority deserve!
+1
Post by: mrgreaper on October 28, 2009, 02:17:00 PM
i have also seen here 100s of rumours but no real facts which simply could be cos there aint none. we all have to exersise patients (yeah i know its hard, i am certainly not the most patient of people) and wait, either 1.61 will be out or some alternative eventualy till then we can either play wave 3 games or buy a second 360 for wave 4 games (or risk the activation disc)
Post by: RMF on October 28, 2009, 02:31:00 PM
QUOTE(mrgreaper @ Oct 28 2009, 09:17 PM)
at the minute im on 1.51, my pre order of tekken 6 arrived this mourning (god bless the postal strikes lol companys send out earlier) it wont play.
But your firmware should play any original regardless of which wave it is, so I'm a little bit confused as to why your original disc won't load.
Post by: timmy01979 on October 28, 2009, 02:50:00 PM
QUOTE(robo989 @ Oct 27 2009, 10:01 PM)
Please STFU you fool. Anything that is posted as the heading on #fw channel is concrete true. If youy don't know this you there's no hope now kindly fuck off and stop spamming.
Hey cocksuck it's past the 27th gbatemp post said it would be out 27th. I am going to laugh so hard when no release comes out because I told you so. Damn I hate dumb inbreads.
QUOTE(RMF @ Oct 28 2009, 09:31 PM)
But your firmware should play any original regardless of which wave it is, so I'm a little bit confused as to why your original disc won't load.
Only Hitachi 1.51 will play wave4., liteon 1.51 wont.
Post by: Toddler on October 28, 2009, 02:51:00 PM
QUOTE(RMF @ Oct 28 2009, 03:31 PM)
But your firmware should play any original regardless of which wave it is, so I'm a little bit confused as to why your original disc won't load.
Not true. That's how it ought to be, but that's not how it works.
Post by: RMF on October 28, 2009, 03:02:00 PM
QUOTE(Toddler @ Oct 28 2009, 09:51 PM)
Not true. That's how it ought to be, but that's not how it works.
That should be how iot works for originals though isn't it? I thought that the checks only applied to backups. He's saying that he has a store bought original Tekken 6 disc.
Post by: jimjom on October 28, 2009, 03:09:00 PM
only hitachi 1.51 will boot them without assistance.
Post by: Toddler on October 28, 2009, 03:25:00 PM
QUOTE(RMF @ Oct 28 2009, 04:02 PM)
That should be how iot works for originals though isn't it? I thought that the checks only applied to backups. He's saying that he has a store bought original Tekken 6 disc.
I know what he's saying. It was a surprise to everyone that iXtreme firmware attempts to verify even originals, which kills the ability to play them since the firmware doesn't recognize Wave 4. The only options are as stated, use iX 1.6 and activate.iso, or use iX 1.51 if you own a Hitachi (that's the only drive where iX 1.51 works as intended).
Post by: daman22 on October 28, 2009, 03:30:00 PM
again
Post by: kawaxbox on October 28, 2009, 03:39:00 PM
QUOTE(jimjom @ Oct 28 2009, 09:09 PM)
wave 4 games, RETAIL, will not boot in ixtreme 1.6 without activate.iso.
only hitachi 1.51 will boot them without assistance.
what? you mean an original game, and not a back up, right?
In any case if its not a back up, why would the fw intefere and not boot a wave 4 game?
Post by: daman22 on October 28, 2009, 03:44:00 PM
QUOTE(kawaxbox @ Oct 28 2009, 11:39 PM)
what? you mean an original game, and not a back up, right?
In any case if its not a back up, why would the fw intefere and not boot a wave 4 game?
it still checks teh wave even on retail games
Post by: Toddler on October 28, 2009, 03:46:00 PM
QUOTE(kawaxbox @ Oct 28 2009, 04:39 PM)
what? you mean an original game, and not a back up, right?
In any case if its not a back up, why would the fw intefere and not boot a wave 4 game?
How many times can we say the same thing? That's how it ought to be, but that's not how it works. Call it a bug, call it an oversight...bottom line, even retail original discs are being stealth-checked, and thus they are prevented from booting.
Post by: daman22 on October 28, 2009, 03:54:00 PM
QUOTE(Toddler @ Oct 28 2009, 11:46 PM)
How many times can we say the same thing? That's how it ought to be, but that's not how it works. Call it a bug, call it an oversight...bottom line, even retail original discs are being stealth-checked, and thus they are prevented from booting.
has anyone else confirmed this? cause peeps on #fw are saying retai wave 4 will play on 1.6
Post by: Cilix on October 28, 2009, 03:56:00 PM
QUOTE(daman22 @ Oct 28 2009, 05:54 PM)
has anyone else confirmed this? cause peeps on #fw are saying retai wave 4 will play on 1.61
How do they know it will if its not out yet? And define peeps.
Post by: daman22 on October 28, 2009, 04:00:00 PM
QUOTE(Cilix @ Oct 28 2009, 11:56 PM)
How do they know it will if its not out yet? And define peeps.
my bad meant 1.6
Post by: Redx508 on October 28, 2009, 09:01:00 PM
This post has been edited by Redx508: Oct 29 2009, 04:02 AM
Post by: Takashi on October 28, 2009, 09:19:00 PM
Post by: djkneegrow on October 28, 2009, 10:51:00 PM
QUOTE(hobogoonie @ Oct 28 2009, 01:34 PM)
I don't post very often but this thread has really done my head in.
When all the shit kicked off with Iriez and other (C4E) very well respected people in the scene I was gutted. I admire those guys so much. The work that they have all done is incredible. But the lack of respect people on this forum showed to them was terrible! Calling them this and that cos of the key extraction thing for the newer liteon's. I hope that a lot of people reading this thread feel guilty to what they have contributed to, if C4E has left the scene.
Everyone wants a new firmware, but too many people think that they deserve it for whatever reason. Thats just crazy! The work that has gone into previous firmwares and hacking tools has just not been appreciated enough. I for one feel very sad at the state of things at the moment, but I cant help feeling like this is what the majority deserve!
I very much agree with this also. I try to donate what little extra I can, but I don't try to make tons off of flashing systems. I mostly do it for friends and people close to them that they trust. Anyways I also respect all the work over the years that has gone into helping us to be able to do all of this. I remember having to use slax discs and unlock disc with media player and stuff like that and now not only do we all have the ability to stealth the games better, but Jungle Flasher also makes it so much easier with Hitachi's, Samsungs, and Lite Ons it is ridiculous to look back and see how flashing was done before now. Anyone who gets upset about having to wait should be tagged an Ass here and on any other forum site or anywhere possible. I don't mind being patient and waiting knowing that what comes from it is legit and works to perfection as well as it can. At some point maybe everyone who does the work to give us what tools we need may stop and if they do a big thank you should be given and not one complaint should be written. If anyone can't wait, doesn't want to wait, or gets pissy the new firmware or tools aren't out right away then all I can say is, get off your lazy ass and do it instead and see how hard and time consuming it is and then tell everyone how much you like to read on forums that people are sick of waiting or have their own dumbass opinion as to why it is taking "so long" or whatever way they put it.
Intelligence and patience are free so learn to use both. Stupidity, ignorance, laziness, and impatience should cost to own so maybe more people wouldn't have these traits and be annoying to us.
Post by: Takashi on October 28, 2009, 11:01:00 PM
Post by: syntaxerror329 on February 03, 2020, 11:18:00 PM
QUOTE(Takashi @ Oct 26 2009, 07:37 PM)
QUOTE(Takashi @ Oct 27 2009, 06:44 PM)
QUOTE(Takashi @ Oct 28 2009, 01:16 AM)
QUOTE(Takashi @ Oct 28 2009, 11:19 PM)
you need to choose your words more carefully, prove he is "lieing".
QUOTE(Takashi @ Oct 29 2009, 01:01 AM)
I just felt like quoting all your posts in this thread to show everyone how completely worthless your input is.
WTF do you come here for! Have you ever made a technical post?
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Post by: Takashi on October 29, 2009, 12:20:00 AM
Whatever I do @ xbs is none of your concern, unless I break a rule. Report me then, Like I did you, just now.
I guess i'll quit referring people to you for your TSOP service then, if I bug you so much. :/
You need to STOP following me around this forum, it's become creepy.
This post has been edited by Takashi: Oct 29 2009, 07:31 AM
Post by: CAM` on October 29, 2009, 04:40:00 AM
QUOTE(jimjom @ Oct 28 2009, 03:09 PM)
wave 4 games, RETAIL, will not boot in ixtreme 1.6 without activate.iso.
only hitachi 1.51 will boot them without assistance.
Not true
I have Tekken6 RETAIL, and Lite-on ixtreme 1.6 ... and it boots just fine.
Post by: RMF on October 29, 2009, 05:50:00 AM
QUOTE(CAM` @ Oct 29 2009, 11:40 AM)
Not true
I have Tekken6 RETAIL, and Lite-on ixtreme 1.6 ... and it boots just fine.
Yeah, just as I thought. The firmware shouldn't care about which wave your originals are and boot them regardless.
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And confirmed again.
QUOTE(Redx508 @ Oct 29 2009, 04:01 AM)
Retail Wave 4 games Work on any FW I have the new GTA retail and it works on 1.6.the fw dont intefere with retail games jimjom is lieing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
This post has been edited by RMF: Oct 29 2009, 12:53 PM
Post by: F1ve seveN on October 29, 2009, 11:02:00 AM
Post by: jimjom on October 29, 2009, 11:17:00 AM
QUOTE(CAM` @ Oct 29 2009, 11:40 AM)
Not true
I have Tekken6 RETAIL, and Lite-on ixtreme 1.6 ... and it boots just fine.
yep i stand corrected, i had a finicky drive that was playing games with my heart. cheers!
Post by: Toddler on October 29, 2009, 11:25:00 AM
Post by: jimjom on October 29, 2009, 11:41:00 AM
guess ill go back to my 'lieing' some more, and while i am at it, ill teach people about the wonders of spell-check! or maybe i was lying about that...
Post by: xplicit582 on October 29, 2009, 06:21:00 PM
Post by: Chrushev on October 29, 2009, 06:22:00 PM
QUOTE
Topic is '| ? list | ? activate | iX 1.61 BENQ & SAMSUNG <LINK REMOVED> | <LINK REMOVED> | NO LITEON ETA ! |'
removed links to not break any forum rules.
This post has been edited by Chrushev: Oct 30 2009, 01:24 AM
Post by: xplicit582 on October 29, 2009, 06:24:00 PM
Post by: daman22 on October 29, 2009, 06:28:00 PM
Post by: daman22 on October 29, 2009, 06:29:00 PM
benq and samsung 1.61 are out.
no ETA for liteon
Post by: fatc2k3 on October 29, 2009, 06:44:00 PM
.lets hope lite-on to follow shortly .......
Post by: daman22 on October 29, 2009, 06:51:00 PM
QUOTE(fatc2k3 @ Oct 30 2009, 02:44 AM)
Good news
.lets hope lite-on to follow shortly ....... me 2............
Post by: pigbait on October 29, 2009, 06:52:00 PM
Post by: chorizo1 on October 29, 2009, 07:04:00 PM
DO NOT LINK TO HACKED FIRMWARE FILES HERE!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: _Nexus_ on October 29, 2009, 07:07:00 PM
QUOTE(pigbait @ Oct 30 2009, 11:52 AM)
Why is nothing up on XBINS ???????
Im on the FTP site now and I was wondering the same thing. I dont see no 1.61 for any drive.
Post by: 360beast on October 29, 2009, 07:16:00 PM
QUOTE(chorizo1 @ Oct 30 2009, 02:04 AM)
AS ALWAYS HAS BEEN THE CASE:
DO NOT LINK TO HACKED FIRMWARE FILES HERE!!!!!!!!!!
jus t go to #fw and get links
Post by: lilflew on October 29, 2009, 07:18:00 PM
Post by: massiah on October 29, 2009, 07:19:00 PM
I have Samsung and BenQ and I loaded them up in Jungle Flasher 1.66.
They output as 1.61-12x for the respective drive models.
This post has been edited by chorizo1: Oct 30 2009, 02:22 AM
Post by: _Nexus_ on October 29, 2009, 07:23:00 PM
Post by: genoxide on October 29, 2009, 07:24:00 PM
QUOTE(_Nexus_ @ Oct 30 2009, 02:23 AM)
So they are on a torrent site? but not on xbins???
weird huh...
Post by: _Nexus_ on October 29, 2009, 07:25:00 PM
QUOTE(360beast @ Oct 30 2009, 12:16 PM)
jus t go to #fw and get links
Cool thanks, found it.
Post by: Ranger72 on October 29, 2009, 07:29:00 PM
QUOTE(_Nexus_ @ Oct 29 2009, 09:23 PM)
So they are on a torrent site? but not on xbins???
Smells fishy to me.
Post by: ruffnut on October 29, 2009, 07:34:00 PM
Post by: modoman on October 29, 2009, 07:35:00 PM
QUOTE(Ranger72 @ Oct 30 2009, 02:29 AM)
Smells fishy to me.
Agreed
Post by: Ranger72 on October 29, 2009, 07:39:00 PM
Something tells me this did not come from c4eva.
I don't have any sammy or benq console laying around to test but I would feel much better if there was some confirmation as to who made this.
Not to start the tin foil hat treatment but...
Post by: _Nexus_ on October 29, 2009, 07:39:00 PM
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Post by: ar1stotle on October 29, 2009, 07:40:00 PM
Post by: _Nexus_ on October 29, 2009, 07:44:00 PM
you may want to remove your screen shot
This post has been edited by _Nexus_: Oct 30 2009, 02:44 AM
Post by: 360player on October 29, 2009, 07:53:00 PM
QUOTE(Ranger72 @ Oct 29 2009, 06:39 PM)
So we have a new Samsung/Benq IX 1.6.1 with no documentation from who made it or where it came from and it does not even show up on xbins?
Something tells me this did not come from c4eva.
I don't have any sammy or benq console laying around to test but I would feel much better if there was some confirmation as to who made this.
Not to start the tin foil hat treatment but...
Yea I second that.
It could be microsoft trying to get us to flash with unsafe firmware, Hey you never know.
Post by: massiah on October 29, 2009, 08:17:00 PM
QUOTE(Ranger72 @ Oct 29 2009, 09:39 PM)
So we have a new Samsung/Benq IX 1.6.1 with no documentation from who made it or where it came from and it does not even show up on xbins?
Something tells me this did not come from c4eva.
I don't have any sammy or benq console laying around to test but I would feel much better if there was some confirmation as to who made this.
Not to start the tin foil hat treatment but...
I wondered the same thing before I loaded the files into Jungle Flasher.
Usually a .txt file of some sort explaining what it's for and blah, blah, blah...
Time will tell.
Post by: omegatek on October 29, 2009, 08:30:00 PM
Anyway, I just flashed 2 BenQ's and loaded up a backup of Lips.
Worked without a problem.
Jungleflasher reads it as 1.61 and everything worked as usual.
Still don't understand why it's not on xbins first.... been going there 6 years for all my needs and this is the 1st time xbins doesn't have it first.
Oh well everything works great.
Post by: XmdawgX on October 29, 2009, 08:36:00 PM
I got banned for helping people and using @ in front of other people's names because the chat has been flooded like crazy thanks to the firmware coming out. He proceeded to call me a fag, so I just thought nothing of it and called him one back... then he banned me.
Lol... I hate power hungry idiots who think they're important people when they really mean nothing just because they have some control over a stupid chat room...
Anyway, flashed mine with 1.61 and it works great. Just curious if anyone knows if this is a steal check bypass for wave 4 or is it strict wave 4 compliance?
Post by: _Nexus_ on October 29, 2009, 08:48:00 PM
QUOTE(XmdawgX @ Oct 30 2009, 01:36 PM)
Well I went to #fw but the mods/admins there sure are immature as anything.
I got banned for helping people and using @ in front of other people's names because the chat has been flooded like crazy thanks to the firmware coming out. He proceeded to call me a fag, so I just thought nothing of it and called him one back... then he banned me.
Lol... I hate power hungry idiots who think they're important people when they really mean nothing just because they have some control over a stupid chat room...
Anyway, flashed mine with 1.61 and it works great. Just curious if anyone knows if this is a steal check bypass for wave 4 or is it strict wave 4 compliance?
yeah i got in trouble from one of the mods on black cats for telling people it might be an idea to wait for information about the firmware before installing it. Childish i think was the term used.
no good deed goes unpunished.
Post by: XmdawgX on October 29, 2009, 08:51:00 PM
I honestly hate IRC to be honest. Its filled with childish and immature teens and young adults who should act a little more grown up than they do. I usually stick to forums, there's quite a bit more mature folks compared to IRC.
All I was doing was saying @username _answer to question here_
I don't see what the big deal was and why he had to call me a "fag" because of it. I was helping people with their problems... something I enjoy doing. He wasn't doing much of anything besides sitting there calling people names and banning users.
Whatever, I got my 1.61 and installed it so I'm happy. It works now without boot discs.