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Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: bertrenolds5 on December 30, 2003, 02:35:00 PM
sorry for double post, they need a remove post option

This post has been edited by bertrenolds5: Dec 30 2003, 10:45 PM
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: bertrenolds5 on December 30, 2003, 02:40:00 PM
I've been reading up on ccxtream alittle today and I know It is used to share and stream media files, but what read purpose does it have? Is it not unlike kazaa or limewire? do you just share files but over your xbox? or is their more to it, can you get games? I would think it would take an eternity to transfer an entire game. Or is the main purpose to share video and movies with others in real time, you can watch it as you download it? I just dont understand the entire purpose of ccxtream, can someone hit me with a purpose?


If it is for downloading movies and music, music I can understand, but movies, why download them, just make your own, it's too easy now days, you'll get better quality making your own then you ever would downloading one, on top of that, you can choose how big you want your divx file to be 1 2 3 cds if you like :P  
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: w m z on December 30, 2003, 10:05:00 PM
QUOTE (bertrenolds5 @ Dec 30 2003, 11:04 PM)
I just dont understand the entire purpose of ccxtream, can someone hit me with a purpose?

ccxstream is a Streaming Server (for sharing files to Xbox Media Player over a network)

It is not a download / file sharing application.  

It simply allows you to stream media from another host on a network i.e. your PC running Windows or a Linux box  wink.gif
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: JayDee on May 08, 2005, 06:44:00 AM
You know you replyed to a thread thats 1½ years od right?

No gravedigging please....
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: w m z on May 15, 2003, 10:16:00 AM
I have knocked up a simple guide on how to . . .

- install XBMP
- upgrade to new CVS build
- install ccxstream for win32 and setup shares for use with XBMP

*UPDATE*

- install ccxstream as an XP service

I have been using ccxstream for a few days now and it seems fine.
Maybe a good alternative to users who are having problems with Relax.

ccxstream is easy to setup and requires just one command with options to
begin sharing out folders  wink.gif

Dont know if the way I have setup ccxstream is the best way.  But it is running
fine for me at the moment  wink.gif

Guide is here . . .

Installing-XBMP-(Upgrading-to-a-CVS-Release)-and-Configuring-ccxstream-for-Win32

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Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: JayDee on May 15, 2003, 12:01:00 PM
Good stuff! :-)
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: w m z on May 16, 2003, 12:30:00 AM
thank you  wink.gif
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: MasterBeta on May 20, 2003, 02:29:00 PM
how does this compare to relax?
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: w m z on May 20, 2003, 03:07:00 PM
In short . . .

ccxstream uses XBMSP protocol.

XBMSP is a more simplistic & faster protocol than the XNS protocol currently used by XBMP.

Though XBMSP has not replaced XNS it can be used by future XStream Servers to share media files to XBMP.

ccxstream comes in a Linux and a Windows version  wink.gif

ccxstream is setup via CLI . . . one command with options is all thats needed to get setup  beerchug.gif

See guide for example!

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Performance wise i cant tell . . . Relax does good job as does ccxstream.  
Currently I am using ccxstream with no issues at all  wink.gif

edit . . .
spelling
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: MasterBeta on May 22, 2003, 06:35:00 AM
Well Have been using ccxstream now for two days and I have to say it is a hell of a lot better than Relax... IMHO.  I have not had one problem with it yet... Knock on wood smile.gif  I just wish you could run it as a service in the backgroud :/  I'm very happy with ccxstream thus far.

PS... Great Tutorial!

This post has been edited by MasterBeta: May 22 2003, 01:36 PM
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: w m z on May 22, 2003, 06:32:00 AM
Dude i have it running as a service will update this post soon . . .  wink.gif

edit . . .

guide now includes how to install ccxstream as a service . . .  wink.gif

thanks to Nailed for link to FireDaemon  wink.gif

revised guide is here . . .

V2 (includes FireDaemon Setup)

You need free (lite version) util from here . . .

http://www.firedaemon.com/

What Is It?

FireDaemon is a utility that allows you to install and run virtually any native Win32 application or script (eg. BAT/CMD, Perl, Java, Python, TCL/TK) as a Windows NT/2K/XP/2K3 service. FireDaemon features easy configuration (via GUI or XML), a low memory/CPU overhead, subprocess prioritisation, custom environments, CPU binding plus monitoring and logging to the event log and on-disk log files.

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Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: MasterBeta on May 22, 2003, 07:53:00 AM
Sweet, however, I just downloaded the guide, and it is the same one... I don't see anything talking about installing as a service.

Thanks...
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: w m z on May 22, 2003, 07:22:00 AM
new guide (when opened) should say v2 in corner . . .

installing ccxstream as a service is toward end of guide  wink.gif
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: MasterBeta on May 22, 2003, 08:37:00 AM
Ahhhh, Shift+Reload solved my problem biggrin.gif
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: w m z on May 22, 2003, 07:35:00 AM
cool  biggrin.gif

i will be uploading a slightly revised version shortly . . . just an attempt at correcting my awful wording  laugh.gif

nothing drastic has altered.
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: Jse on May 22, 2003, 09:40:00 AM
nice work
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: NauSeuM on May 27, 2003, 06:17:00 AM
phenomenal work.

i was having nothing but grief from both SMB (hangs, etc) and RelaX (the new 'back button issue')...

ccxstream seems to be working flawlessly and transparently.

thanks again

Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: dopy on May 30, 2003, 10:37:00 AM
Is ccxstream also working on OS X ? I read there was a linux version so can i use it.
And i don't know where to put request, but they are putting in some apple tech in newest player. So why don't they put in Rendevouz with Quicktime Streaming(i know Rendevouz not from apple). Rendevouz is very easy (no setup) and works great. iTunes will be availabel soon for Windows so they can use it too. (there are some alpha build availale on the web)
So that are mine thoughts about streaming protocol.
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: Cerixus on June 05, 2003, 12:45:00 PM
I got CCXStream working, but it doesn't stream video so well.  It's really choppy when you first begin and anytime you seek to a different location.  Relax streamed flawlessly, except it would lose connection and I couldn't watch a second movie or switch to my Music folder.

If I could either get CCXstream working smoothly or get Relax to stop losing connection, I would be a happy camper.  Can anyone help?
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: Telemachus on June 11, 2003, 10:40:00 AM
Relax is great for movies.  I just can't get XBMP to load to hit 99% of the time.

I am using Complex, since CVS wouldn't even load.

When it works, it works flawlessly!

Frustrating!
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: sck on July 19, 2003, 01:43:00 PM
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Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: windragz on July 22, 2003, 08:58:00 PM
QUOTE (MasterBeta @ May 22 2003, 02:24 PM)
Well Have been using ccxstream now for two days and I have to say it is a hell of a lot better than Relax... IMHO.  I have not had one problem with it yet... Knock on wood smile.gif  I just wish you could run it as a service in the backgroud :/  I'm very happy with ccxstream thus far.

PS... Great Tutorial!

bxStream run as service and also is faster and very light.

that's my experience,
windragz
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: gonkle on July 29, 2003, 03:34:00 AM
How can I start the GUI for BX-Stream?
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: * illusion * on July 30, 2003, 11:07:00 AM
Just a thought, why dont you guys just use Windows Shared Folders?
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: san9jay on August 10, 2003, 04:32:00 AM
i was experiencing the relax hang problem so I decided to try ccxStream. Seems to work fine but none of my thumbnails show up. I have the *.tbn files in the correct place and when using relax they were showing up fine.

Any ideas?
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: Foot on August 13, 2003, 11:10:00 PM
hey all, got a question...  I cant seem to get ccxstream working correctly nor the windows filesharing for my xbox.  I know the settings are almost spot on, but I dont know whats holding it up.  maybe cache size... dunno.

in XBMP I have it setup to connect to my PC via smb.... I click on the correct icon for it, takes a sec... loads a new screen as if it were to display my contents over the network but it doesnt display data at all.  I can back out fine, it doesnt lock my sytem up like when it doesnt work (ie, the settings being wrong for the connection)....


Is there anyone out there that might know a sollution to this.... the same problem of not displaying the data is happening with ccxstream and the windows file sharing.

also if you can PM me to make sure I catch the thread...

cudos to w m z yet again, and I love your avatar.
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: Shadyguy on August 14, 2003, 05:41:00 PM
Cheers for the great tutorial. I have only one problem, when I set ccxstream up, my music played great, but my movies didnt show up at all. I set them up the same, with no success on movies. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: Shadyguy on August 14, 2003, 06:43:00 PM
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Thanks again  beerchug.gif
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: skabio on September 29, 2003, 09:27:00 AM
I need a little help.  I cant get either relax or ccxstream to work.  Well I did get relax working a few times but it kept loosing connection.  Any how I am trying to do this on a xp machine.  Here is my configuration.

xbmp:
     
     <share>
       <name>Network (XBMSP)</name>
       <url>xbmsp://192.168.2.6/music</url>
       <cachesize>256</cachesize>
     </share>   

ccxstream:

-I 192.168.2.6 -S music=D:All in AllMusic -S video=D:All in All

Anyone see anything wrong with this config?  I know I have it running as a service correctly.  So very confused.  In the ccxstream code is it supposed to be a -L or -I?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: maskim on September 30, 2003, 08:01:00 PM
QUOTE (skabio @ Sep 29 2003, 06:27 PM)

xbmp:
     
     <share>
       <name>Network (XBMSP)</name>
       <url>xbmsp://192.168.2.6/music</url>
       <cachesize>256</cachesize>
     </share>   

ccxstream:

-I 192.168.2.6 -S music=D:All in AllMusic -S video=D:All in All

Anyone see anything wrong with this config?  I know I have it running as a service correctly.  So very confused.  In the ccxstream code is it supposed to be a -L or -I?
Any help would be greatly appreciated

Try a higher chachesize for starters.


Lower case L.  

-l 192.168.2.6 -S ....

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Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: skabio on October 01, 2003, 01:04:00 PM
Cool I'll give it a go.  Do you think a cache of 512 would be enough?
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: lucas on October 01, 2003, 05:32:00 PM
QUOTE (* illusion * @ Jul 31 2003, 06:07 AM)
Just a thought, why dont you guys just use Windows Shared Folders?

can you say audio sync loss?
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: airy on October 06, 2003, 09:03:00 PM
QUOTE
-l 192.168.2.6 -s music=D:All in AllMusic -S video=D:All in All


What does the ' All in All ' do?
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: stefcold on October 07, 2003, 09:51:00 AM
QUOTE
-I 192.168.2.6 -S music=D:All in AllMusic -S video=D:All in All

Anyone see anything wrong with this config?  I know I have it running as a service correctly.  So very confused.  In the ccxstream code is it supposed to be a -L or -I?
Any help would be greatly appreciated

Also try using the 'old' DOS subdirectories name.  I have mine pointing to "d:\mydocu~1\mymusi~1"

Stef....
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: airy on October 07, 2003, 10:02:00 AM
Dont use the actual drive ( "d:" ) Use a folder within the drive such as ( "d:movies" ) or ( "e:music" )

Had problems with relax and ccxstream because I was using root directories. Dont know if that is why for sure, but Im back to using relax and its working like a gem.

Good luck!


( use:

"d :  movies"

dont forget the fwd slash.... no spaces .. this forum kees deleting my ""'s

This post has been edited by airy: Oct 7 2003, 05:04 PM
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: skabio on October 07, 2003, 05:45:00 PM
Yea I gave up on this.  I updated my evox and now relax works perfectly everytime.  So thanks anyway.  
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: HeeD on October 14, 2003, 11:09:00 PM
You can't have spaces in the pathname unless you put quotes around it.

Here is example of mine...

ccxstream -l 192.168.0.10 -S mp3albums=d:\mp3albums -S pictures="d:\Canon 10D"

Note in particular the Canon 10D.

This would help the above All in All problem so just make -S "D:\All in All"
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: HeeD on October 14, 2003, 11:59:00 PM
I didn't feel like trying that firedaemon.

Instead I used a free program by MS called srvany.exe

You have to search around the net for it.

Took me about 10 minutes to figure it out. Works great and I now have ccxstream.exe running as a service in XP Pro!

This post has been edited by HeeD: Oct 15 2003, 07:00 AM
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: Iamgroquick on October 20, 2003, 03:54:00 AM
QUOTE (Pmuadib @ Jul 31 2003, 03:50 AM)
maybe because some of us run AD domains at home and XBMP doesn't seem to properly transmit domainnameusername through for share authentication :angry: least I've never gotten it to work using AD auth.

You can create a local username/password and modify the security on your NTFS filesystem/share to allow that username to access it. On your AD controller, domain accounts are local accounts. This is how i got it to work in my AD network.

IamGroquick !
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: Iamgroquick on October 20, 2003, 03:57:00 AM
QUOTE (maskim @ Oct 1 2003, 05:01 AM)
QUOTE (skabio @ Sep 29 2003, 06:27 PM)

xbmp:
     
      <share>
        <name>Network (XBMSP)</name>
        <url>xbmsp://192.168.2.6/music</url>
        <cachesize>256</cachesize>
      </share>   

ccxstream:

-I 192.168.2.6 -S music=D:All in AllMusic -S video=D:All in All

Anyone see anything wrong with this config?  I know I have it running as a service correctly.  So very confused.  In the ccxstream code is it supposed to be a -L or -I?
Any help would be greatly appreciated

Try a higher chachesize for starters.


Lower case L.  

-l 192.168.2.6 -S ....

^_^

I thought the cachesize was how much of the stream xbmp was buffering ? I don't know that's gonna help w/ connectivity issues.
But again, I might be wrong

IamGroquick!
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: Gamester17 on October 23, 2003, 06:55:00 AM
QUOTE (Guybrush @ Oct. 22 2003,17:08)
XBMSP does have a discover feature, add this in your config.xml under videos/music/whatever:

CODE

       Discover XBMSP Shares
       xbmsp://*
       256
     


This will add an item "Discover XBMSP Shares", when choosen it will broadcast a discover packet and the XBMSP shares on your local network will respond.

I wonder why this item isnt included in the default config :)
I did not know this until today, you learn something new everyday :)
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: RoosterX on November 08, 2003, 07:29:00 AM
I've been using Relax 0.75 for some time, problem is its unstable from time to time, so tried xbmsp with ccxstream-1.0.15-win, which if i understand right should be more flexible, stable, uses less resources etc.. *but* some problems did show up, 1. videos/movies became blocky, and so much it isnt really usefull, and 2. xbmp cant browse .bin files,in which one problem more showed up.. movies created with ex. DVD2Svcd and it uses more than one cd, its often used an image for changing to new cd at end of video, problem is.. xbmp jumps to end direct, without showing the movie, and just displays 'change cd logo'.. so why oh why ;p
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: vireo on November 25, 2003, 04:05:00 PM
Can anyone get ccxstream running on Linux?  When I go to make it, I get the following error:

CODE

[root@localhost ccxstream-1.0.15]# make
cc -I. -g   -c -o ccxstream.o ccxstream.c
cc -I. -g   -c -o ccxfile.o ccxfile.c
cc -I. -g   -c -o ccutil.o ccutil.c
cc -I. -g   -c -o ccbuffer.o ccbuffer.c
cc -I. -g   -c -o ccdebug.o ccdebug.c
cc -I. -g   -c -o ccxmltrans.o ccxmltrans.c
cc -I. -g   -c -o ccxencode.o ccxencode.c
cc -lreadline -ltermcap  ccxstream.o ccxfile.o ccutil.o ccbuffer.o ccdebug.o ccxmltrans.o ccxencode.o   -o ccxstream
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lreadline
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [ccxstream] Error 1


However, lreadline is definitely installed and present.  I'm not sure what is going on, but I don't want to have to switch to Windows just so I can stream movies!

[edit] I'm running Mandrake 9.2

This post has been edited by vireo: Nov 30 2003, 03:25 AM
Title: An Alternative To Relax
Post by: QUIKSILVERMALE on December 01, 2003, 02:30:00 PM
I have no idea how to update the config.xml for this can anyone help im not really good at this kinda stuff
all i want to do is stream music to the xbox is this the easiest way?