Post by: Hozy on March 16, 2005, 09:02:00 AM
i have a custom 40way ide cable 25" long only 3" longer than stock xbox cable,
i get error 13, 99 out of 100 times. Why would this be? i have tried 3 different 10g stock xbox hdd's all been re-locked to this xbox and no luck, my 200g drive is a Seagate barracuda 7200rpm, is there a way i can get error 13 to disapear??
Kind Regards
HoZy
P.S-All help will be appreciated
Post by: Cossack1977 on March 16, 2005, 08:08:00 PM
Post by: Cossack1977 on March 16, 2005, 10:28:00 PM
Post by: Cossack1977 on March 17, 2005, 04:16:00 PM
200 gig drive will boot fine
but any stock 10 gig drive WD or seagate come up with error 13.
Doesn't matter where we place them on the cable
Come on a whole forum of people and no ideas?
Post by: Cossack1977 on March 17, 2005, 07:21:00 PM
Now for the people with an IQ higher then "thefilepirater"
We know what error 13 is where asking how to fix it?
Most other people would on this FORUM would know who HOZY is and who i am so most problems to us dont exist ( we fix them easily) but this thing is pisssing us off.
This is a duel boot mod
there is a ribbon cable with 4 connectors MB,DVD,HDD1,HDD2
There is a switch wired up so only one HDD is powered at a time.
PROBLEM AGAIN:
The 200gig HDD boots fine SEAGATE( supposed to me the most compatible brand)
the 10 gig HDD comes up with error 13 ( 2 x WD and 2 x seagate all same prob)
pull the 200 gig of the cable the 10- gig bootsfine
We have tried at least 4 different stock HDD We have tried Different cables
We have tried leaving the 200gig on the cable and just pulling the molex off to make sure 100% there is no power going to it.
We have tried both drives on Cable select, master and many different combinations.
We have tried with the drives locked to the box unlocked one locked one not you name it we have tried it.
We got it to boot once then rebooted and back to error 13
People who respond with something more than a lame coment appreciated
Thankyou in advance
Post by: Cossack1977 on March 18, 2005, 02:07:00 AM
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on March 18, 2005, 02:14:00 AM
i was tring to do this, and it was what i was told.
i have a wd 200 and 80gb, trying to get it to work, and i got nowhere.
so if you can, try two stock drives that are the same brand and model number and see if it works.
if not, i think it might be that the stock drive is stopping you from doing this
Post by: Cossack1977 on March 18, 2005, 02:16:00 AM
ive tried a seagate 10 and a seagate 200 no luck
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on March 18, 2005, 02:21:00 AM
QUOTE(Cossack1977 @ Mar 18 2005, 07:22 PM)
yeah tried 2 stock drives and both booted regardles of brand
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Title: 200g & 10g Dual Hdd Problems
Post by: Cossack1977 on March 18, 2005, 02:24:00 AM
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thats no help i need to leave the stock 10 gig in the box for live
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Title: 200g & 10g Dual Hdd Problems
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on March 18, 2005, 02:46:00 AM
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Post by: Cossack1977 on March 18, 2005, 02:24:00 AM
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on March 18, 2005, 02:46:00 AM
QUOTE(Cossack1977 @ Mar 18 2005, 07:30 PM)
thats no help i need to leave the stock 10 gig in the box for live
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Title: 200g & 10g Dual Hdd Problems
Post by: Paronga on March 18, 2005, 02:47:00 AM
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i dont know how to help. But if i did, i prolly wouldn't tell you, you seem to e an ass to anyone who dosn't help your and you very pushy.
If your so great, figure it out your self. ass.
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Title: 200g & 10g Dual Hdd Problems
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on March 18, 2005, 02:51:00 AM
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Post by: Paronga on March 18, 2005, 02:47:00 AM
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Most other people would on this FORUM would know who HOZY is and who i am so most problems to us dont exist ( we fix them easily) but this thing is pisssing us off.
If your so great, figure it out your self. ass.
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on March 18, 2005, 02:51:00 AM
QUOTE(Paronga @ Mar 18 2005, 07:53 PM)
i dont know how to help. But if i did, i prolly wouldn't tell you, you seem to e an ass to anyone who dosn't help your and you very pushy.
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Title: 200g & 10g Dual Hdd Problems
Post by: jimjom on March 18, 2005, 02:56:00 AM
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Will everyone stop being douchebags and just help the man?
I want to see this dual hdd box pan out... because I am interested in the same mod, though.... if these are the problems I am gonna get and the kind of responses I can expect... well than fuck that and fuck you.
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Title: 200g & 10g Dual Hdd Problems
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on March 18, 2005, 03:00:00 AM
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Post by: jimjom on March 18, 2005, 02:56:00 AM
I want to see this dual hdd box pan out... because I am interested in the same mod, though.... if these are the problems I am gonna get and the kind of responses I can expect... well than fuck that and fuck you.
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on March 18, 2005, 03:00:00 AM
QUOTE(jimjom @ Mar 18 2005, 08:02 PM)
Will everyone stop being douchebags and just help the man?
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Title: 200g & 10g Dual Hdd Problems
Post by: Cossack1977 on March 18, 2005, 03:02:00 AM
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i have a tut that a guy off here sent me to allow you to build a so called cable that works with every combination. But at the moment it doesnt seem to work.
He said it is supposed to be because of pin 1 and 29 and you need to use a switch for it to work.
What we have found out is that the smaller the second drive the more likely it is to work. it works with 20, 40,80 and 120 gig 70% of the time.
We have tried every jumper config and drive placement config.
the reason i want to stick with a stock wd or seagate as my 10 gig and not put in say the maxtor 10 gig that i have is because xbox live checks your hdd serial number with the kernal on your both with the database ms has and the last thing i want to do is do all this work and have it banned.
tut fron this guy on this post: http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=344190
other of my post to find answers on this:
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=369832
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Title: 200g & 10g Dual Hdd Problems
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on March 18, 2005, 03:33:00 AM
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ok, i just tried this again. with my 200gb wd, it works with my normal cable, but it will not work when it is on the new cable, with no other drive connected (except dvd).
with yours Cossack1977, it works with teh big drive on, and no others doesnt it?
if so, does that mean my i have a problem with the cable.
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Title: 200g & 10g Dual Hdd Problems
Post by: Cossack1977 on March 18, 2005, 03:45:00 AM
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if i try any hdd on the new cable it works by itself.
so the 200gig works by it self and so does the 10 gig works by itself on on any connector.
with both hdd on the one cable the 200 will boot but any 10 comes up with an error 13 regardless of what connector i plus it into
so yeah my cable work easiest way to find out is just use your stock drive try it on the first free connecor then try it on the second if it boots fine on both connectors the cable works
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Title: 200g & 10g Dual Hdd Problems
Post by: Hozy on March 18, 2005, 03:54:00 AM
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I can't win, but i will win sometime maybe in next 5mins but hopefully before i go to sleep
Kind Regards
HoZy
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Title: 200g & 10g Dual Hdd Problems
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on March 18, 2005, 05:47:00 AM
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damm, so my cable doesnt work.
like you hozy, this is killing me.
i am almost tempted to buy an xtender, and rip the circuitry out of it. what are they doing that we arnt? there has to be a clue in the xtender
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Title: 200g & 10g Dual Hdd Problems
Post by: Cossack1977 on March 18, 2005, 06:44:00 AM
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xtender boxes have the same problem. the only thin they have is a switch which switches power to the drives they just use a 5 connector ide cable. If you read some of the post about them alot of people have the same problem. One guy set 3 of them up to worked the third didnt.
As i have found by reading the bigger the drive the more hassal.
Our cables work but the fuqing stock drives dont like the 200gig. We dont want to give up. But we might have to it looks like our new box coming up white iceing will be turned into be live box with the std drive and no chip and ill leave liquad metal as my media box. Shits me though with all the case modding and stuff it shits me
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Title: 200g & 10g Dual Hdd Problems
Post by: Hozy on March 18, 2005, 07:19:00 AM
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Off Topic:
thefilepirater, Go Fuck yourself you SOB, How about supplying a fix for the problem.
Paronga, Your special aint ya, Give it out but can you take it? We'll see in the long run, by the way whats your xbox, a little softmod and a little 120g hdd, poor Paronga, Jealous now are we now?
Kind Regards
HoZy
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Title: 200g & 10g Dual Hdd Problems
Post by: Cossack1977 on March 18, 2005, 07:35:00 AM
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Yo bro we mod together, we play together and we flame together
ferrari_rulz_02 thanks for your help man. hope your having better luck then we are. this is a prick of a mod it works with piss weak little drives but as soon as we try to do something better it kicks us in the nuts.
Keep us a breast of your attemps we will do the same and hopefully we can work it out.
We would still love help from any of you guys out there. Were not to proud to say help
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Title: 200g & 10g Dual Hdd Problems
Post by: BjTheClown on March 18, 2005, 01:18:00 PM
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i know this really wont help, but im having the exact same problem. western digital stock 10gig and seagate 200gig. they both work individually on any plug, but which ever one is on the last plug wont ever boot (just differing error codes) if the other hdd is on the plug before it. and ive tried all combos of slave\master\ etc. im hoping you get help because that would help me too.
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Title: 200g & 10g Dual Hdd Problems
Post by: Cossack1977 on March 18, 2005, 03:47:00 PM
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BjTheClown and ferrari_rulz_02 send me a pm and ill send you a copy of the tut the guy did for his special IDE cable.
The cable doesnt seem to work for me but it might work for you.
When both drives are on the cable i can get the 200 gig to boot on any connector its the 10 gig i cant we have tried 4 different stock drives 2 wd and 2 seagates all 4 of them always come up with the same error error fuqing 13. if we leave the stock on the cable on any connector and pull the 200 gig seagate of any oh the stock drives will boot.
as far as im aware cs(cable select) will not work with 3 devices on the same cable
this is why:
http://www.pcguide.c...ide/conf_CS.htm
if you read through that link it tells you about CS.
The funny thing is if we boot with the X# chip on we can get into any stock drive through the OS but we turn the chip off and ERROR fuqing 13
Thats the only error we get
we have put atleast 30hrs this week in trying to work out why.
I DONT WANT TO GIVE IN
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Title: 200g & 10g Dual Hdd Problems
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on March 18, 2005, 10:53:00 PM
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ok, so you say big drives dont like little drives. but do big drives like big drives?
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Title: 200g & 10g Dual Hdd Problems
Post by: Cossack1977 on March 19, 2005, 12:18:00 AM
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YES
YES
YES
WE GOT IT WORKING
As soon as we get the case back together HOZY will get onto this mod TUT.
Ok just for you guys that are having problems now.
We running it with a seagate 10gig stock and a seagate 200gig.
the 10 gig is set to master with non ata slave and the 200gig is set to master.
It wont work with my new 616t(FUQ) but i just swaped it for my Bro's second gen philips out of his crystal but as a temp where running the already modded Thompson.
Were running a 80cm ATA133 cable. The Stock drive is on the end connector.
ALL works.
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Title: 200g & 10g Dual Hdd Problems
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on March 19, 2005, 03:32:00 AM
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good to see you got it working
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Title: 200g & 10g Dual Hdd Problems
Post by: IM_Ferrari on March 23, 2005, 12:14:00 PM
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I'm not sure if this helps, but when I was setting up my multiple HDD setup, I was having a similar problem. When I booted from a W/D drive with no other drives on the cable, it booted fine. When I connected another W/D drive to the cable, with or without power I got an error 08. I know that it is a different problem than you are having, but I found as soon as I got rid of the W/D drives, everything worked fine.
I suggest you try some other drive brand combinations.
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Title: 200g & 10g Dual Hdd Problems
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on March 24, 2005, 04:04:00 AM
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Post by: Cossack1977 on March 18, 2005, 03:02:00 AM
He said it is supposed to be because of pin 1 and 29 and you need to use a switch for it to work.
What we have found out is that the smaller the second drive the more likely it is to work. it works with 20, 40,80 and 120 gig 70% of the time.
We have tried every jumper config and drive placement config.
the reason i want to stick with a stock wd or seagate as my 10 gig and not put in say the maxtor 10 gig that i have is because xbox live checks your hdd serial number with the kernal on your both with the database ms has and the last thing i want to do is do all this work and have it banned.
tut fron this guy on this post: http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=344190
other of my post to find answers on this:
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=369832
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on March 18, 2005, 03:33:00 AM
with yours Cossack1977, it works with teh big drive on, and no others doesnt it?
if so, does that mean my i have a problem with the cable.
Post by: Cossack1977 on March 18, 2005, 03:45:00 AM
so the 200gig works by it self and so does the 10 gig works by itself on on any connector.
with both hdd on the one cable the 200 will boot but any 10 comes up with an error 13 regardless of what connector i plus it into
so yeah my cable work easiest way to find out is just use your stock drive try it on the first free connecor then try it on the second if it boots fine on both connectors the cable works
Post by: Hozy on March 18, 2005, 03:54:00 AM
I can't win, but i will win sometime maybe in next 5mins but hopefully before i go to sleep
Kind Regards
HoZy
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on March 18, 2005, 05:47:00 AM
like you hozy, this is killing me.
i am almost tempted to buy an xtender, and rip the circuitry out of it. what are they doing that we arnt? there has to be a clue in the xtender
Post by: Cossack1977 on March 18, 2005, 06:44:00 AM
As i have found by reading the bigger the drive the more hassal.
Our cables work but the fuqing stock drives dont like the 200gig. We dont want to give up. But we might have to it looks like our new box coming up white iceing will be turned into be live box with the std drive and no chip and ill leave liquad metal as my media box. Shits me though with all the case modding and stuff it shits me
Post by: Hozy on March 18, 2005, 07:19:00 AM
thefilepirater, Go Fuck yourself you SOB, How about supplying a fix for the problem.
Paronga, Your special aint ya, Give it out but can you take it? We'll see in the long run, by the way whats your xbox, a little softmod and a little 120g hdd, poor Paronga, Jealous now are we now?
Kind Regards
HoZy
Post by: Cossack1977 on March 18, 2005, 07:35:00 AM
Yo bro we mod together, we play together and we flame together
ferrari_rulz_02 thanks for your help man. hope your having better luck then we are. this is a prick of a mod it works with piss weak little drives but as soon as we try to do something better it kicks us in the nuts.
Keep us a breast of your attemps we will do the same and hopefully we can work it out.
We would still love help from any of you guys out there. Were not to proud to say help
Post by: BjTheClown on March 18, 2005, 01:18:00 PM
Post by: Cossack1977 on March 18, 2005, 03:47:00 PM
The cable doesnt seem to work for me but it might work for you.
When both drives are on the cable i can get the 200 gig to boot on any connector its the 10 gig i cant we have tried 4 different stock drives 2 wd and 2 seagates all 4 of them always come up with the same error error fuqing 13. if we leave the stock on the cable on any connector and pull the 200 gig seagate of any oh the stock drives will boot.
as far as im aware cs(cable select) will not work with 3 devices on the same cable
this is why:
http://www.pcguide.c...ide/conf_CS.htm
if you read through that link it tells you about CS.
The funny thing is if we boot with the X# chip on we can get into any stock drive through the OS but we turn the chip off and ERROR fuqing 13
Thats the only error we get
we have put atleast 30hrs this week in trying to work out why.
I DONT WANT TO GIVE IN
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on March 18, 2005, 10:53:00 PM
Post by: Cossack1977 on March 19, 2005, 12:18:00 AM
YES
YES
YES
WE GOT IT WORKING
As soon as we get the case back together HOZY will get onto this mod TUT.
Ok just for you guys that are having problems now.
We running it with a seagate 10gig stock and a seagate 200gig.
the 10 gig is set to master with non ata slave and the 200gig is set to master.
It wont work with my new 616t(FUQ) but i just swaped it for my Bro's second gen philips out of his crystal but as a temp where running the already modded Thompson.
Were running a 80cm ATA133 cable. The Stock drive is on the end connector.
ALL works.
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on March 19, 2005, 03:32:00 AM
Post by: IM_Ferrari on March 23, 2005, 12:14:00 PM
I suggest you try some other drive brand combinations.
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on March 24, 2005, 04:04:00 AM
QUOTE(IM_Ferrari @ Mar 24 2005, 05:20 AM)
I'm not sure if this helps, but when I was setting up my multiple HDD setup, I was having a similar problem. When I booted from a W/D drive with no other drives on the cable, it booted fine. When I connected another W/D drive to the cable, with or without power I got an error 08. I know that it is a different problem than you are having, but I found as soon as I got rid of the W/D drives, everything worked fine.
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Title: 200g & 10g Dual Hdd Problems
Post by: Cossack1977 on March 28, 2005, 10:41:00 PM
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Post by: Cossack1977 on March 28, 2005, 10:41:00 PM
QUOTE(theman0521 @ Mar 28 2005, 01:34 AM)
Glad to see you got it to boot, But I am afraied you may have mor problems bow. I have done severalof these, for me and friends. All of them seem to develop freezing or other problems on the inside drive. Unfortunately I have yet to find a solution to that yet. I believe it has to do with using the ata133 cables.
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Title: 200g & 10g Dual Hdd Problems
Post by: revengeismyfury on May 05, 2005, 07:15:00 AM
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So all I can say to those who cant get their dual hdd mods working. Try this It should work
That was a external hdd mod with both hdds attached. Now well whenever I get time to going to try to fit them inside the xbox case who knows when Ill have time.
I hope this info is helpful to those out there that are having problems.
Post by: revengeismyfury on May 05, 2005, 07:15:00 AM
.So all I can say to those who cant get their dual hdd mods working. Try this It should work
That was a external hdd mod with both hdds attached. Now well whenever I get time to going to try to fit them inside the xbox case who knows when Ill have time.
I hope this info is helpful to those out there that are having problems.