Post by: eitsuop on July 09, 2011, 11:45:00 PM
I just used xboxhdm2.2 to upgrade to a new HDD. I downloaded a clean 5960 M$ Dash, and put it in the C Folder. After finally getting xbhdm 2.2 to install NDURE ,C folder,E folder,F folder and lock the harddrive successfully, I thought everything would work well.
Well here's the catch.
There's no xbox error codes.
No dash ever loads, It just stays at the xbox logo.
Yet, strangely enough, It plays every game I insert.
And I can't use the gamesave exploit for SC, because it always freezes when I select the save.
This post has been edited by eitsuop: Jul 10 2011, 07:43 AM
Post by: eitsuop on July 10, 2011, 12:47:00 AM
I am beyond my breaking point.
And xbhdm v1.9 doesn't seem to be compatible with windows 7, which is a definite piss off.
Post by: shambles1980 on July 10, 2011, 04:38:00 AM
Make sure that your puting them in the right places in the right folders..
And make sure you use the Pal or Ntsc vesrion of the save for your game... (pal uk ntsk usa)
Honestly though.. If your using xboxhdm you should just find the soft moded dash files add them to c and E instead of the official dash files.
Maybe you should start the process again It dosent sound as though you are far off from getting it to work.
Post by: eitsuop on July 10, 2011, 11:35:00 AM
Gave me the inspiration to keep going and figure out the problem.
One question,
If I lock the harddrive with the eeprom, Should it boot from the xbox, no problem?
Because I have heard people saying " You need to pull the ide from the Disc Drive, get error 12, and then hook the HDD up."
Would that apply for me?
Post by: Heimdall on July 10, 2011, 11:56:00 AM
Post by: eitsuop on July 10, 2011, 12:26:00 PM
Post by: shambles1980 on July 10, 2011, 12:26:00 PM
Whilst it has the error 12 on screen your hard disk is unlocked and your xbox wont try to re-lock it untill the xbox is restarted.
when you hotswap (take the hard disk out of the xbox when the xbox is on) you want to force the error 12 so you know the xbox is not trying to do anything to the hard disk whilst your using it..
Post by: eitsuop on July 10, 2011, 12:39:00 PM
Is there a "windows" way of transferring the files?
Could I unlock the hardrive with XBHDM, boot into windows, and edit the folders on the hardrive with xplorer360?
Because I'd like to see what's on there..
I somehow wonder how It can't boot the dash, when I seem to have all the right files in C:.
This post has been edited by eitsuop: Jul 10 2011, 07:51 PM
Post by: Heimdall on July 10, 2011, 01:04:00 PM
Post by: eitsuop on July 10, 2011, 01:41:00 PM
Because even when I unlock the HDD with hdm,
Xplorer360 always says "Could not find a fatx drive to open".
Post by: eitsuop on July 10, 2011, 01:52:00 PM
FTP into my other xbox with original HDD,
Copy it's C: drive and put it on my New HDD.
So then I know I have the right files?
This post has been edited by eitsuop: Jul 10 2011, 08:54 PM
Post by: Heimdall on July 10, 2011, 02:11:00 PM
You can't generally use the files from another Xbox unless both Xboxes have the same kernel, and it's not quite that simple - you need to copy the fonts files in the right order.
The Kingroach NDURE 3.1 manual explains exactly how to install a softmod by copying files, either with a file manager or via FTP.
This post has been edited by Heimdall: Jul 10 2011, 09:12 PM
Post by: eitsuop on July 10, 2011, 02:33:00 PM
I had downloaded the M$ C: drive off the internet before,
And put it on my new HDD's C drive.
It didn't specify the kernel version,
so is this possibly why it won't load the dash?
So what I should do is...
Take the Cdrive backup from the original hardrive... And put that on the new drives C folder.
So then the kernel should match the machine.
Am I correct here?
And is it possible my dash wasn't new enough to perform a HDD upgrade?
Because I don't think I can upgrade my Dash now, considering I don't have one..
And my original hard drive broke.
This post has been edited by eitsuop: Jul 10 2011, 09:52 PM
Post by: Heimdall on July 10, 2011, 02:48:00 PM
You don't use your original disk files when you build a new hard drive, you use a clean MS Dash and a new, clean set of softmod files.
This post has been edited by Heimdall: Jul 10 2011, 09:50 PM
Post by: eitsuop on July 10, 2011, 02:58:00 PM
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Post by: Heimdall on July 10, 2011, 03:04:00 PM
Post by: eitsuop on July 10, 2011, 03:08:00 PM
Or will this even make a difference?
In my C: drive, there are two files which I'm not sure of.
I was looking at different 5960 dash downloads, and they did not have these two files included with the dash.
"XBox Book.xtf and Xbox.xtf"
Should I keep these or are these files left over from a softmod?
Post by: eitsuop on July 10, 2011, 04:06:00 PM
And I can't get xplorer 360 to open the drive. Does it need to be locked or unlocked, when I boot into windows?
It says "Couldn't find FATX drive".. Is it possible that the drive didn't get formatted to FATX during XBHDM?
(I Highly Doubt this!)
I can save gamesaves to the HDD, and they stay there after I reboot the xbox, and they work too.
So does this mean the drive is working partially, except for the C: drive, with all the dash files are located?
I'm almost certain it's the software in the C: folder. (Although I receive error 21 without Ndure...?)
Could someone please open their C: folder and tell me whats supposed to be in there..
(It is definetely NOT the HDD, I have tried many others with the exact result.)
Thanks for all the help, as always.
Post by: eitsuop on July 10, 2011, 05:17:00 PM
Audio
fonts
xboxdashdata.185ead00
xodash
XBox Book.xtf
Xbox.xtf
xboxdash.xbe
It seems like these should be the correct files.
Is there any special way of transferring these to USB / HDM / C?
I just select them all, copy, then paste, in that folder.
Is that somehow corrupting files or something?
Do they need to go in a special order?
Post by: Heimdall on July 10, 2011, 05:28:00 PM
Obviously the disk needs to be unlocked for Xplorer360 to read it..........
Either remove the lock with xboxhdm, or temporarily unlock with hotswap.
If you have the gamesaves on there then just grab a post 2004 live-enabled game (Halo 2 or later) and start to log into live. If you're lucky it will update the dash, then once that's done you can remove Halo 2, reboot, run your exploitable game, and do a gamesave softmod.
Alternatively you could run the exploitable game, trigger the softmod installer BUT DON'T START THE INSTALLATION, then use FTP to delete the contents of the C partition and replace them with a clean 5960 dash, then run the softmod installer.
Post by: eitsuop on July 10, 2011, 05:46:00 PM
Heimdall- I unlocked it before, but xplorer360 didn't recognize it. That's why I asked.
(Should you let the bios recognize the drive or not?)
I already put a clean 5960 Dash on the new HDD. Splinter Cell freezes when I select the "Linux" gamesave.
(It is correct gamesave, I used it on my original HDD. But, it should boot to unleashX with NDURE installed, anyways.)
So I'm not sure where to go from here.
I will read the Kingroach Manual, Transfer the softmod files in correct order, and get back to you after that.
BTW, I will be on Vacation from tomorrow. (7 days I will be gone)
So please don't lock or delete the thread because I don't answer back.
Post by: eitsuop on July 10, 2011, 06:02:00 PM
"Copy the created "ndure" folder to "xboxhdm/linux" folder",
This is obviously instructions for XBHDM v1.9, but that's not the point.
It doesn't specify how to move font files.
Could you tell me what order to move these font files, because I don't believe it said in the manual.
( Just to clarify up.. XBHDM V1.9 doesn't seem to work on Windows 7, thats why I used 2.2.
Also, I can't use Chimp because My old drive is broken.)
Post by: Heimdall on July 10, 2011, 06:23:00 PM
Post by: eitsuop on July 10, 2011, 06:38:00 PM
Page 3, paragraph 5 describes "uploading to xbox", and I'm pretty sure that's not what you mean.
Post by: shambles1980 on July 10, 2011, 07:02:00 PM
1. A eeprom from a diferent xbox will not work.. The eeprom has to come from the xbox you are softmodding.
2. Unlocking a hard drive can be done in a couple of ways.
(a.) Hotswap. "force error 12 on the xbox."
Details.
To hot swap forcing an error 12 on the xbox you open the xbopx and dissconnect the yellow cable from the dvd player (the power thing not its ide) The hard disk is still attached to the xbox's ide cable You turn on the xbox and it says error 12. you then remove the xbox's ide cable from the xbox's hard diosk, the power cable is still attached to the hard disk. The hard disk is now unlocked aslong as the xbox is still on.
You can only transfer files to the hard disk whilst it is unlocked.
(hot swap unlocking is not permenant unless something goes hidiousy wrong)
(b.) Use a eeprom, If you have the eeprom.bin file or have made/bought a eeprom reader you can use the eeprom data to unlock the hard disk using xboxhdm.
(if you unlock using xboxhdm it is unlocked untill you relock it with xboxhdm)
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File transfer.
(xbox hard disk is usualy set to PRIMARY MASTER, thats the 1st hard disk on the 1st ide cable)
you can transfer files via xboxhdm You would need to make a linux iso using the tool to make a disk but you must 1st place the correct files in the C and E folders.
If you are using the hotswap methos then you dont use xboxhdm to re-lock the drive because it was not permenantly unlocked.
The hard drive will be locked again when you return it to your xbox. Reconnect it to the xbox's IDE cable, and Finaly restart the xbox.
or
you can use xplorer360 to transfer files to the drive in windows.
The xbox hard drive can be primary slave or secondary master or promary master or secondary slave for this. Just make sure jumpers are correct for which ide channel you are using ans what the other jumpers in your system are set 2...
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PC jumper settings.
on any given IDE channel you have a possibility of 2 drives. Master and slave..
If 1 is set to master, the other "on that same ide cable" has to be set to slave. so in one computer with 2 ide slots you can have 2 masters and 2 slaves..
If 1 driveis set to cable select BOTH drives have to be set to cable select..
You can't have 1 cable select and 1 slave or master..
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PC Bios detection.
If you want to lock and unlock yor hard drive then you do not wantyour bios to detect it
Some bioses will let you state "none" or similar for hard disk attached to any given channel. This will make the bios not detect it.
If your bios does not have the option to select none in the bios config then you have to wait for the bios to finish detecting your hard drives and move on to the next screen before connecting the xbox hard disk to the pc's ide.
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Break down of the term hotswap..
HOTSWAP = Removing the IDE cable from the hard drive whilst the hard drive is still being powerd and used by the system, and Placing it in to a diferent system.
HOT = Still reciving power and is in use.
Swap = The process of switchin the system it is located in.
-=Edit=-
Sorry about the typo's its after 1am here so i wont be fixing them.
Post by: Heimdall on July 10, 2011, 07:23:00 PM
QUOTE(eitsuop @ Jul 11 2011, 01:38 AM) 
The only .pdf I received with Ndure 3.1 is called "Ndure installer 3.1"
Page 3, paragraph 5 describes "uploading to xbox", and I'm pretty sure that's not what you mean.
Post by: eitsuop on July 10, 2011, 07:44:00 PM
http://forums.xbox-s...p;#entry4792717
The "terminal" type thing in xbhdm always told me that the unlocking was succesful.
Also, it was succesful at locking the drive.
I didn't seem to have any error codes, ever. Everything seemed to be successful.
The eeprom I used is from the xbox I am softmodding.
I understand how to unlock/ lock a HDD using xbhdm and my eeprom.
I have made the linux "type thing" on a bootable usb, as xbhdm 2.2 requests. (Works fine, I Get to the GUI)
To not let my bios detect it, I just plug in the HDD after post.
I have had troubles with xplorer360.
I unlock my drive with my eeprom and xbhdm, reboot computer,boot to windows and xplorer360 always says "Fatx drive not found".
I'm not sure why this is.
I am going to make videos of the files on my usb, and commands I run in Linux, so it can clarify some things.
Post by: shambles1980 on July 10, 2011, 07:56:00 PM
if that boots correctly just ftp the files from that one to your pc then use those files to make the xboxhdm thingy to upgrade your hard disk.
Post by: Heimdall on July 10, 2011, 08:06:00 PM
Post by: eitsuop on July 10, 2011, 08:33:00 PM
I got the game save onto the HDD, but Splinter Cell freezes every time I chose the save "Linux".
I used the same game save to softmod this xbox earlier, before I tried to upgrade the HDD, so it is the correct file.
I don't understand why It freezes.
But I will try again.
Shambles- Not softmoddded right now. My original HDD died during this upgrade ( A capacitor fell off from the board somehow..).
I backed up my C: and E: drive conveniently before it broke.
I guess what I will do is take my E: folder from my original HDD, and put it on my new HDD.
I can't use my original C: folder though, because it's dash is not 5960.
So I will use a clean 5960 Dash, which I have been using all along with absolutely no success.
And I'm trying to make 2 videos on youtube, the files in my xbhdm 2.2 folder, and me using "linux", so you can point out what I am doing wrong/ If i am doing anything wrong.
This post has been edited by eitsuop: Jul 11 2011, 03:44 AM
Post by: eitsuop on July 10, 2011, 09:28:00 PM
Do you mean put the folders inside the UDATA folder, or actually outside the UDATA folder and below it.
Post by: eitsuop on July 10, 2011, 10:57:00 PM
Thats the xbhdm 2.2 folder with the files.. It's a bit small but please look it over and tell me if you think I have done it correctly.
Post by: Heimdall on July 11, 2011, 02:57:00 AM
QUOTE(eitsuop @ Jul 11 2011, 04:28 AM)
Heimdall- In your previous post you said "taking care to put the numbered folder (or two folders for Splinter Cell) directly below the UDATA folder"
Do you mean put the folders inside the UDATA folder, or actually outside the UDATA folder and below it.
You need to put them in USB:\hdm\E\UDATA (yours is empty). You also need to put the ndure E files in USB:\hdm\ndure\E\, and make sure you use the ndure script that comes with xboxhdm2, not the one from Kingroach.
Once booted, your workflow should be:
Konsole
type xboxhd2
option 1 "Activate xboxhdm stage 2 on Primary master" (or options 2-4 depending on your setup)
option 1 - Boot VGA console with xbox-drive utilities
type xboxhd
option 1 - Build a new Xbox HD from scratch
option 2 - Rebuild C partition on existing Xbox drive
option 8 - Quit
type xbrowser
run the ndure script
option 1 - Install Ndure [Install only ndure files]
Exit the ndure script
Lock the disk (using one of the xboxhdm2 methods, as described in the manual)
Post by: scullc on July 11, 2011, 12:45:00 PM
QUOTE(eitsuop @ Jul 11 2011, 05:57 AM) 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhN74GkKtxs
Thats the xbhdm 2.2 folder with the files.. It's a bit small but please look it over and tell me if you think I have done it correctly.
here is my attempt last year at trying to solve this
read on a for a few posts as it covered font creation etc...issues I never expeted to see creating a soft mod.
frankly - i found the experience far too frustrating - & i never solved.
Spliff stepped forward & seemed to have a working method - clearly not in your case
Post by: eitsuop on July 14, 2011, 08:24:00 PM
I'm very computer savy, and every tutorial is the same, so I shouldn't have had so much trouble.
Despite following every instruction every time, never any luck.
It seems I'm not far off.
So for the meantime, I am going to try V1.9. (Do you need XP to run it's .iso making program?)
Seems like a lot of people say it worked for them, so I'm gonna give it a shot.
Still on vacation, so when I get home, I'm gonna try and get it to work.
Wish me luck, I'll tell you how it works out.
Post by: eitsuop on July 14, 2011, 08:35:00 PM
I'll give v2.2 another shot, with a couple tweaks, to see if that might fix my problem.
Other than that, I think I'll downgrade to v1.9 for the time being.
It will prove if I was actually using v2.2 incorrectly, or if my files are incorrect.
Post by: eitsuop on July 15, 2011, 10:26:00 AM
Thank you for the info.
Still on vacation, but when I get back, I am going to try a couple different versions of xbhdm.
I am going to use stock files, I can just softmod using the 'old' game method afterwards.
One question, do UDATA and TDATA have to be included in :E, for a stock dash to function properly?
(they will be empty in my case, I have gamesaves on a usb)
Or will the xbox create the folders the first time you save a game?
Post by: Heimdall on July 15, 2011, 06:46:00 PM
Post by: eitsuop on July 16, 2011, 08:43:00 PM
After I unlock my HD (using the eeprom) with hdm v1.9, can I return to the the main menu of xbhdm via command, or do I need to reboot my computer to return to the main menu?
(Sorry, haven't actually tried myself, yet.)
Post by: eitsuop on July 23, 2011, 04:25:00 PM
Finally it worked!
The key was to use v1.9 not v2.2!
Thanks Guys!
Post by: eitsuop on July 24, 2011, 03:08:00 PM
V1.9 was very simple, and I was successful with no frustration.
I suggest V1.9 over v2.2, even though USB seems more convenient than CD.