Post by: XanTium on March 14, 2006, 07:31:00 AM
Post by: dignick on March 14, 2006, 07:51:00 AM
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Post by: brispet1 on March 14, 2006, 08:17:00 AM
Why do we early adopters always end up taking it in the ass!
Post by: BasicAir on March 14, 2006, 08:49:00 AM
Please MAKE ANOTHER option ---
I own Two HDTV's - one 1080i Max and one 720 Max.
Or just: I own two HDTV's and can view 720P and 1080i without upscaling or downscaling.
A lot of us, like me, have more than one HDTV. One of mine is 1080i native, the other 720P native.
Post by: tylerdurden on March 14, 2006, 09:50:00 AM
i know that 1080p is best but.... Which resolution is best between 1080i and 720p?
All 360 games are 720p... should i set my xbox resolution to 720p ou 1080i?
If i set it to 1080i, does the console switch it to 720p automatically?
Post by: twistedsymphony on March 14, 2006, 09:53:00 AM
QUOTE(brispet1 @ Mar 14 2006, 10:24 AM) 
have one with no DVI or HDMI
Why do we early adopters always end up taking it in the ass!
I'm in the same boat as you my friend... I've got a projector with a VGA/Component input only
I'm planing on just waiting till the bulb dies next year sometime, by then they'll have the sweet 1080p LED based projectors out and hopefully the next gen format battle will be a bit more clear.
The real shaft is that you need DVI/HDMI with HDCP because of DRM tech
QUOTE(tylerdurden @ Mar 14 2006, 11:50 AM)
I've read a bit about all this... i got an Sony HDTV 1080i max
i know that 1080p is best but.... Which resolution is best between 1080i and 720p?
All 360 games are 720p... should i set my xbox resolution to 720p ou 1080i?
If i set it to 1080i, does the console switch it to 720p automatically?
There is no "best" the "best resolution is what your display supports natively, MOST (not all) HDTVs are fixed pixels, so for instance if you have an LCD with a 1280x768 native resolution, even if you're feeding it 1080i it's still converting it to 720p before you see it, so you might as well just give it 720p and cut out the conversion step (which lowers quality and often adds lag as well as artifacts).
In general most people consider 720p superior to 1080i simply because it's progressive (less artifacting) and can run at a higher frame rate (which makes the picture much smoother).
The Xbox 360 ALSO has a scaler chip inside of it, so whatever you set in your dashboard is what you get for output NO MATTER WHAT THE GAME SUPPORTS. so if the game only supports 720p and you have it set to 1080i, it will rescale it to 1080i before outputting it.
Again your best off to set your output to whatever the NATIVE resolution of your display is. If you have a Sony TUBE TV then that's probably 1080i.
Post by: 9nine9 on March 14, 2006, 10:05:00 AM
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Post by: C o s m o on March 14, 2006, 10:22:00 AM
Post by: grogger13 on March 14, 2006, 10:32:00 AM
QUOTE(9nine9 @ Mar 14 2006, 12:05 PM) 
I believe 720p is better than 1080i, 1080i is using old technology like a CRT which goes the way of interlacing, were 720p is a progressive signal and draws the entire picture in one scan. In a way you could thing of 1080i as 720p being split up and sent in 2 scans instead of one. I use the 720p on my 61" Samsung and it looks great the 1080i looks good but the xbox just seems to look best at 720p IMO.
That could just be for xbox 360, alot of people have commented on xbox 360 scaling to 1080i being alittle off(possibly upconverted 540p).
Another thing why does it matter the technology is older, it still produces a picture of great quality, that has nothing to do with which image looks better.
QUOTE(8bitbeta @ Mar 14 2006, 12:24 PM)
I got gyped on mine...it does max of 1080i but it doesn't do 720p. just 480p and 1080i. Last time I buy a HD set at wal-mart on clearence.
Not many tv's do both 720p and 1080i
Post by: Anubis-MG on March 14, 2006, 11:25:00 AM
I own a 61" Toshiba DLP HDTV 1080i.
I use my dual SLI 7800's, x2 3800 pc on it through DVI Cable and man does it look sweet.
I also got my 360 hooked up to it too.
All's good so bring on the HD-DVD/Blu-Ray...
Post by: kolink on March 14, 2006, 11:39:00 AM
but i'd have to say that if i were to buy an hdtv, i'd wait until OLED came out... and the prices dropped
Post by: VOlition on March 14, 2006, 11:56:00 AM
Post by: pCeSlAyEr on March 14, 2006, 12:08:00 PM
I have a 52" 1080i hitachi and I couldn't be more pleased with it... it was between the 1080i Hitachi and a DLP 720p Samsung... I couldnt beat the price of the Hitachi with its features...
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Post by: Niobium-41 on March 14, 2006, 12:04:00 PM
720p = 720 lines of resolution every 1/60th of a second
1080i = 540 lines of resolution every 1/60th of a second
Which means that even if I have a game that plays at 60 frames a second.. I'll never see 60 frames a second in 1080i. 30 frames is all you'll ever get.
Why 1080i is a deceptively named format.
Post by: pCeSlAyEr on March 14, 2006, 12:15:00 PM
Post by: JesseWHHS on March 14, 2006, 01:03:00 PM
Anyway, got a $800 TV for $500....
Phillips 30" flat screen CRT
480i, 480p, and 1080i
not bad for $500. 360 looks amazing on it
Post by: -Natas- on March 14, 2006, 01:35:00 PM
Post by: cyberg4 on March 14, 2006, 01:56:00 PM
Edit: 150th post now a X-S Senior Member! woot
Post by: DWells55 on March 14, 2006, 02:10:00 PM
57" Widescreen HDTV with a Halo 2 HUD burnt in - 1080i - darn shame...
23" Widescreen HDTV LCD monitor/TV 1280x768 (720p) mounted on my wall
15" Fullscreen 1024x768 LCD TV (480p is the only thing it truly supports, so EDTV?)
Post by: sabbath_dude on March 14, 2006, 02:11:00 PM
. Got to love eBay and especially the local pick up only items!.
Post by: hyfall381 on March 14, 2006, 02:28:00 PM
QUOTE(BasicAir @ Mar 14 2006, 04:49 PM)
XanTium
Please MAKE ANOTHER option ---
I own Two HDTV's - one 1080i Max and one 720 Max.
Or just: I own two HDTV's and can view 720P and 1080i without upscaling or downscaling.
A lot of us, like me, have more than one HDTV. One of mine is 1080i native, the other 720P native.
dont loose sleep over it, dork.
Post by: mr. newbie on March 14, 2006, 03:21:00 PM
Post by: ccskorn on March 14, 2006, 03:30:00 PM
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Post by: lowendfrequency on March 14, 2006, 06:02:00 PM
Post by: dmack_901 on March 14, 2006, 06:39:00 PM
Very nice, but the speakers SUCK. But I'm quite satisfied hooking it's output to my PC speakers. Anyway, I'm using it as a PC Monitor/TV/360 screen. But the 360 and PC looks best. TV's kinda pixely. I just love being able to us the PC from the sofa.
PS($500)
Post by: BasicAir on March 14, 2006, 07:38:00 PM
QUOTE(hyfall381 @ Mar 14 2006, 10:35 PM)
dont loose sleep over it, dork.
You call me a dork because I made a suggestion for another option on the Poll to choose from.
Good job, you just prooved how immature you are and that you have no class.
You, kid, obviously have an issue if you have nothing better to do then to call me a loser for making simple suggestion for the poll, which you did.
*claps* Congratulations, kid. It's people like you that help ruin respectable message boards and such.
Post by: deacon187 on March 14, 2006, 07:51:00 PM
the 360 was ok for most games but madden and nba live seemed to look way better in the stores on the lcd sets, luckily before my boss quit and my supervisor got layed off, they gave me a 2002 comercial model 42" panasonic plasma for free
and all im using it for is dual monitor once in a while with my and the 360, whats great is now i dont have to kick my wife off the rear projection so i can play, now she gets to still watch her tv shows while i play the 360 
the plasma supports 480p 720p and 1080i and has a vga but still no dvi or hdmi, but also every rca connection even components are all bnc so i had to spend 45.00 for gold plated bnc to rca adapters, still complain though 45.00 for a plasma, cant go wrong with that
Post by: Retarded Yoshi on March 14, 2006, 08:06:00 PM
Post by: BasicAir on March 15, 2006, 12:03:00 AM
QUOTE(Retarded Yoshi @ Mar 15 2006, 04:06 AM)
mine maxes out at 1080i but I would like to upgrade to 1080p after this whole dvd format thing gets figured out.
Yeah, I'm definately going to get a 1080P but I'll wait another year or so when the actual usage of 1080P will be worth it.
I jumped the gun back in 2000 and bought a 1080i TV (being that old it wouldn't/doesn't even up-convert 720P signals to 1080i) then didn't use it for anything that used the 1080i except the few Xbox1 games that used it over the years and small things like that. So I made a stupid move.
In very late (October) 2004 I got a sweet deal on a DLP Samsung 3rd generation (which, if you didn't know, Samsung DLP's are highly reguarded as the best DLP's on the market and DLP's in general are the best bang for your buck; if you ask 100 audio/videophiles like me more will agree than disagree on that).
It's native mode is 720P but it down-converts 1080i to 720P and all. And, of course, I've gotten great usage out of it and it's PC, HDMI, DVI, Component input ports.
By the way, someone mentioned in this thread that all 360 games are put out at 720P. That's not true. All Xbox 360 games, no matter what they say on the back, whether it says (1080i) --or-- (720P) --or-- (720P/1080i) on the back, your Xbox 360 and your TV will work it out to play on your set whether your 720 and/or 1080i native TV up-converts or downconverts or not. Plus, as you can see from above, some games were made for 1080i and not 720P. I just wanted to make that correction.
So to sum up that last paragraph, no matter what the back of your Xbox 360 game case says - 720P & 1080i, 720P only, or 1080i only (and yes, different Xbox 360 games will say one of these threee things), the game WILL DEFINATELY play on your 720P and/or 1080i TV no matter what - whether it's the 360 doing the up/down conversion and/or your TV doing the up/down conversion (if it can and if it needs to).
One thing that boggles my mind is why MS didn't get the DTS logo on the 360 or the package or any paperwork stating it supports DTS (which it clearly does because I've tested it with DVD's I have with DTS). Xbox1 had the logo. Maybe it would have cost them more money? I seriously, seriously doubt that but hey - it's possible I suppose.
Post by: ibemonty2000 on March 15, 2006, 02:16:00 AM
It'll do 1080i /480P / 480i. I also have a 650W 5.1DD surround via optical fiber so its a pretty nice setup for under $1100 all together.
-Monty
Post by: sweetbrett on March 15, 2006, 07:53:00 AM
Wait, everyone doesn't know that? They waste their money buying 30" HDTV's? I guess marketing does have a purpose...
Post by: edwinmcdunlap on March 15, 2006, 08:39:00 AM
Post by: deadparrot on March 15, 2006, 09:21:00 AM
Post by: Avenger 2.0 on March 15, 2006, 09:29:00 AM
Post by: BasicAir on March 15, 2006, 09:47:00 AM
QUOTE(sweetbrett @ Mar 15 2006, 03:53 PM)
how about an option for EDTV that shows up to 1080i perfectly? After all, everyone knows that HD resolution is only noticable in tvs 50" and above.
Wait, everyone doesn't know that? They waste their money buying 30" HDTV's? I guess marketing does have a purpose...
No offense or anything, but being the audio/videophile I am, I can assure you a true, good 720P and/or 1080i TV can easilly be noticed at better resolution below 50". I think the smallest ones they really make are around 28-32", though, it's somewhere in there.
Now, with that said, granted, you won't really see the difference on say a 30" TV with 1080i vs a 480i non-HDTV if you either have bad eyesight and/or are sitting more than 12 feet away. But with a 30" HDTV you'd probably want to be sitting, ideally of course, about 8 feet away to see the true HDTV resolution (who watches even a non-HDTV 30" TV from much more than 80 feet away, anyway, though? Not Many).
Oh well, I was just giving my two cents, bro.
QUOTE(deadparrot @ Mar 15 2006, 05:21 PM)
Pioneer PDP436XDE. 43" 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p! About $4500 after currency conversion.
How much?
And are they the same brands we get in the U.S. and Japan (obviously I would assume so, but then why the high price?)? --- Like Sony, Philips, Magnavox, Samsung, RCA. GE, Sharp...?
Post by: deadparrot on March 15, 2006, 11:19:00 AM
QUOTE(BasicAir @ Mar 15 2006, 04:54 PM)
How much?
2,500 British Pound (GBP) = 4,343.20 US Dollar (USD)
Currency Exchange as of today, also, sales tax is 17.5% VAT over here. It's an amazing TV. Everything looks beautiful (even SDTV signals, don't actually get HD here yet!). I run my xbox at 720p on it, it seriously blows you away!
Post by: Hack_Bird on March 15, 2006, 01:40:00 PM
QUOTE(Avenger 2.0 @ Mar 15 2006, 05:29 PM)
HDTV's are still way to expensive in Europe, and in Belgium, you can't even get HD channels. When the price drops (in a few years), I might get one.
Holland to, maybe i buy a HDTV when i get hd channels for less money. its damm expencive right now.
a beamer works good 2
Post by: gehx on February 02, 2020, 04:19:00 PM
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on February 02, 2020, 05:33:00 PM
At the moment im running my 360 at 720p on a Dell 19" monitor. I have to say you CANNOT see the real beauty on this setup though, if I stick my head RIGHT next to the monitor you get a better idea of how it should look on a HDTV but also a bad back and headache. ;-)
Unfortunately the VGA cable for 360 doesn't do 1080i which is a shame as I know this monitor can do that as I have seen my X-Box do it.
Post by: Nytemunkey on March 15, 2006, 10:05:00 PM
QUOTE(BasicAir @ Mar 15 2006, 03:45 AM)
You call me a dork because I made a suggestion for another option on the Poll to choose from.
Good job, you just prooved how immature you are and that you have no class.
You, kid, obviously have an issue if you have nothing better to do then to call me a loser for making simple suggestion for the poll, which you did.
*claps* Congratulations, kid. It's people like you that help ruin respectable message boards and such.
I hope I don't loose any class by saying this but, come on dude, everybody is thinking it but no one wants to say that your suggestion for a poll option was probably like the worst option ever. Sure the one dude didnt have to call you a dork, it was uncalled for. Oh well, lets move on kid. No harm no foul, and this message board hasnt been soiled just yet.
Post by: webslinginwr22 on February 02, 2020, 10:15:00 PM
QUOTE(deadparrot @ Mar 15 2006, 10:21 AM) 
Pioneer PDP436XDE. 43" 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p! About $4500 after currency conversion.
Now there's a good tv. One of the best plasmas. I have the 50" Sony SXRD. 1080p. Games look great in 1080i since it's native resolution is 1080. But they do look smoother in 720p. Either way it's T!TS ( o )( o )
Post by: michelb on March 15, 2006, 10:18:00 PM
QUOTE(deadparrot @ Mar 15 2006, 05:21 PM)
Pioneer PDP436XDE. 43" 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p! About $4500 after currency conversion.
FYI, sorry but you've been misinformed. According to the specs from Pioneer, your plasma has a max resolution of 1024x768 so it doesn't fully resolve 1080i or 1080p although it's likely that it can accept and downconvert the signals.
Hard to imagine that 8% (and close to 15% of those with HDTV) have 1080p compatible set given that less than 1 year ago, there were pretty much no sets available that actually did it. Even now, most of the sets available don't do it. I suspect that many may have been misled when they purchased it.
Post by: BasicAir on March 15, 2006, 11:31:00 PM
QUOTE(Nytemunkey @ Mar 16 2006, 06:12 AM)
I hope I don't loose any class by saying this but, come on dude, everybody is thinking it but no one wants to say that your suggestion for a poll option was probably like the worst option ever. Sure the one dude didnt have to call you a dork, it was uncalled for. Oh well, lets move on kid. No harm no foul, and this message board hasnt been soiled just yet.
It had nothing to do with you, kid. I am old enough to be your father, believe me. He didn't only call me a "dork" but he also opened up his statement with "don't lose any sleep over it" which was another uncalled for, completely immature thing to do.
Another person has made a suggestion for the poll... Should we all start flaming him?
Come on now, your post is totally irrational and you should think before you type your message and had you done so you would have realized just how immature you're acting as well.
It was over when I responded to his uncalled for response. Why bring up many days old topics of conversation and drag it on and also involve yourself?
That's class right there.
Just drop it, lol. Clearly a lot of you kids and adults younger than myself don't belong on these boards if all you want to do is bring negative energy with your negative posts.
Can we call this topic 'over' and 'done with' now already? I'd bet not.. I'd bet someone, maybe even yourself, is going to fire back with yet another immature response.
Personally I get a riot out of it but at the same time I want to try to teach you youngins some respect and that's why I reply to the attacks against myself.
You know the saying "you learn something new everyday?" Well, you just did, congratulations to you, too. I hope your message board ettiquite gets better, kid.
*pats ya on the back*
Sincerely,
BasicAir
Post by: charulo on February 02, 2020, 11:38:00 PM
Post by: deadparrot on March 16, 2006, 01:03:00 AM
QUOTE(michelb @ Mar 16 2006, 05:25 AM)
FYI, sorry but you've been misinformed. According to the specs from Pioneer, your plasma has a max resolution of 1024x768 so it doesn't fully resolve 1080i or 1080p although it's likely that it can accept and downconvert the signals.
I'm aware of that. But, it does also state that 1080p is supported, possibly with a downconversion (still says it's running at 1080p) but still looks absolutley amazing.
Post by: COTA-GodlyOne on March 16, 2006, 06:50:00 AM
QUOTE(BasicAir @ Mar 16 2006, 07:38 AM)
It had nothing to do with you, kid. I am old enough to be your father, believe me. He didn't only call me a "dork" but he also opened up his statement with "don't lose any sleep over it" which was another uncalled for, completely immature thing to do.
Another person has made a suggestion for the poll... Should we all start flaming him?
Come on now, your post is totally irrational and you should think before you type your message and had you done so you would have realized just how immature you're acting as well.
It was over when I responded to his uncalled for response. Why bring up many days old topics of conversation and drag it on and also involve yourself?
That's class right there.
Just drop it, lol. Clearly a lot of you kids and adults younger than myself don't belong on these boards if all you want to do is bring negative energy with your negative posts.
Can we call this topic 'over' and 'done with' now already? I'd bet not.. I'd bet someone, maybe even yourself, is going to fire back with yet another immature response.
Personally I get a riot out of it but at the same time I want to try to teach you youngins some respect and that's why I reply to the attacks against myself.
You know the saying "you learn something new everyday?" Well, you just did, congratulations to you, too. I hope your message board ettiquite gets better, kid.
*pats ya on the back*
Sincerely,
BasicAir
Dude you need to calm down =/ Losen up buddy....someone called you a dork...get over it =/ No need to make these 'im older than you, im better than you' comments. :S Who cares...
My dad has a 47" 1080i CRT set, i dont remember any other info about it as i dont really go there that often. My xbox 1 looks great on it though.
Post by: TexT on February 03, 2020, 08:53:00 AM
Post by: clogicgmather on March 16, 2006, 09:53:00 AM
Oh and to the dude who was moaning to xantium about the lack of options on the poll... Count yourself lucky that thats the worst of your problems! I still aint paid off the finance for my first telly
Post by: BasicAir on March 16, 2006, 09:59:00 AM
QUOTE(COTA-GodlyOne @ Mar 16 2006, 02:57 PM)
Dude you need to calm down =/ Losen up buddy....someone called you a dork...get over it =/ No need to make these 'im older than you, im better than you' comments. :S Who cares...
My dad has a 47" 1080i CRT set, i dont remember any other info about it as i dont really go there that often. My xbox 1 looks great on it though.
You're way more stressed than I am about it, believe me. It doesn't bother me at all. Notice how I ended the message with a smiley face? LOL
I'm as calm as Snoop Dogg smoking some high-quality herb (even though I don't smoke nor condone it).
You're obviously more tense about it than I am.
*dun* *dun* *dun*, Another one bites the dust!
Post by: Statecowboy on March 16, 2006, 12:06:00 PM
QUOTE(BasicAir @ Mar 14 2006, 10:45 PM)
You call me a dork because I made a suggestion for another option on the Poll to choose from.
Good job, you just prooved how immature you are and that you have no class.
You, kid, obviously have an issue if you have nothing better to do then to call me a loser for making simple suggestion for the poll, which you did.
*claps* Congratulations, kid. It's people like you that help ruin respectable message boards and such.
What a dork!
I have a sony wega 42" 1080i and I love it! 42kdfe i think is the model. ANyway, 1080i look sso much better on my screen than 720 p...just food for thought.
Post by: kazuyette on February 03, 2020, 12:38:00 PM
QUOTE(BasicAir @ Mar 16 2006, 06:06 PM)
*dun* *dun* *dun*, Another one bites the dust!
Well, well, well... I'm prolly not a good forum user, since I never felt the urge to post anything before today, and I'm not from an english-speaking country. Then, I got to read BasicAir's numerous posts (i'm sure this reply will generate a couple more, actually).
Few things to know about BasicAir. First, he's 24, according to his very own website (g0at, add the Ws and the .com yourself). Second, he's not a very gifted webdesigner according to the very same site. My third is derived from my first, he's a lyer. Which makes me assume, fourth, that he does not even own a single hdtv set (which is my case too, there's no shame, honey). Fifth, he doesn't make much sense in english, and obviously can't speak french at all : your ettiquite should be spelled etiquette. Take it from someone who knows.
Well, BasicAir, you made me waste a lot of time, but I got to say it was time well wasted. And why do you insist on making everyone bite the dust ? Is there too much clogging your brain ?
Anyways, I apologize to other readers for the flame that BasicAir will undoubtedly post shortly.
Hey, buddy, learn a couple sayings before you begin your diatribe :
"If speech is silvern, then silence is golden"
"It is better to shut up and risk appearing moronic, than to open it and leave no doubt about it."
I will now follow my own advice, and go back to my usual muteness. Please don't feel obliged to interrupt it again.
Bye all, and apologies for my approximative english.
Post by: RELIC on February 03, 2020, 01:49:00 PM
(cant wait for hddvd)
Post by: 794 on February 03, 2020, 05:59:00 PM
Post by: 0794 on March 16, 2006, 06:18:00 PM
QUOTE(kazuyette @ Mar 16 2006, 01:38 PM)
Well, well, well... I'm prolly not a good forum user, since I never felt the urge to post anything before today, and I'm not from an english-speaking country. Then, I got to read BasicAir's numerous posts (i'm sure this reply will generate a couple more, actually).
Few things to know about BasicAir. First, he's 24, according to his very own website (g0at, add the Ws and the .com yourself). Second, he's not a very gifted webdesigner according to the very same site. My third is derived from my first, he's a lyer. Which makes me assume, fourth, that he does not even own a single hdtv set (which is my case too, there's no shame, honey). Fifth, he doesn't make much sense in english, and obviously can't speak french at all : your ettiquite should be spelled etiquette. Take it from someone who knows.
Well, BasicAir, you made me waste a lot of time, but I got to say it was time well wasted. And why do you insist on making everyone bite the dust ? Is there too much clogging your brain ?
Anyways, I apologize to other readers for the flame that BasicAir will undoubtedly post shortly.
Hey, buddy, learn a couple sayings before you begin your diatribe :
"If speech is silvern, then silence is golden"
"It is better to shut up and risk appearing moronic, than to open it and leave no doubt about it."
I will now follow my own advice, and go back to my usual muteness. Please don't feel obliged to interrupt it again.
Bye all, and apologies for my approximative english.
Nice work kazuyette...finally this idiot may shutup. With quotes like he "is old enough to be most of our fathers" and how he "just wants to teach us youngins a lesson," it is quite humorous to realize that BasicAir is a complete LIAR. And all you had to do was check out his x-scene profile with his birth year 1981 and his website confirms it as well. One of his blog posts even mentions "when i finally start a family and have kids of my own, sure the holidays will be more fun."
I agree that it is usually a waste of time to bash people on bulletin boards, but when one individual goes out of his way to mock all us "youngins," and turns out to be a complete liar, it really is nice to see them crash and burn - nice reputation you have now BasicAir. Oh, and for the record, I was born in 1977.
Post by: avatar1976 on February 03, 2020, 07:51:00 PM
QUOTE(kolink @ Mar 14 2006, 07:39 PM)
since i'm only 16, with no job.. i would love an hdtv... but can't afford one. I spent all my saved money on my 360, the wireless adapter, setting up a wireless home network for all my computers and games.
but i'd have to say that if i were to buy an hdtv, i'd wait until OLED came out... and the prices dropped
Check out SED before OLED buddy, sounds like much more promising technology, combinging the good elements of CRT with the good elements of PLASMA and LCD.
Post by: COTA-GodlyOne on March 17, 2006, 12:07:00 AM
QUOTE(BasicAir @ Mar 16 2006, 07:06 PM)
You're way more stressed than I am about it, believe me. It doesn't bother me at all. Notice how I ended the message with a smiley face? LOL
I'm as calm as Snoop Dogg smoking some high-quality herb (even though I don't smoke nor condone it).
You're obviously more tense about it than I am.
*dun* *dun* *dun*, Another one bites the dust!
You made no sence at all during that reply. Good job old man.
Post by: strekship on February 04, 2020, 12:46:00 AM
Post by: pue5tube on March 17, 2006, 06:21:00 AM
The SXRD displays everything at 1080p but only accepts 480i/p, 720p, and 1080i. It upconverts all sources to 1080p. It can also realize full 720p and 1080i. This was verified by the ISF tech using a VERY nice and expensive HD pattern generator. It's the first TV he has calibrated out of a thousand that actually realizes the full resolution of 720p and 1080i. Thought that was an interesting factoid.
I still set my Xbox 360 to 1080i in the dash as that is the SXRD's native resolution. The XBR960 has the best looking picture I've ever seen for a direct view/CRT. Mind you, this is AFTER the ISF calibration which most people never get. The XBR960 accepts 480i/p, 720p, and 1080i but it's native resolution is 1080i, therefore it displays 720p at 1080i.
So to sum up, I'm thrilled with my 2 Sony TVs, especially when using the Xbox 360.
The only thing I might do is line the inside of the SXRD with some black material to help absorb ambient light. This will help the black level and increase the contrast ratio.
Post by: alou on March 17, 2006, 07:49:00 AM
I don't own one either, got a rear projection CRT but most probably get one by the end of the year.
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Post by: trecenters on March 18, 2006, 12:44:00 AM
Post by: epsilon72 on March 18, 2006, 01:01:00 AM
Parents have a cheap Sony 30" 480p/1080i crt that does a good job when I get sick of playing stretched xbox1 on my monitor.
Post by: blackchild1101 on March 18, 2006, 02:35:00 AM
QUOTE(BasicAir @ Mar 14 2006, 04:49 PM)
XanTium
Please MAKE ANOTHER option ---
I own Two HDTV's - one 1080i Max and one 720 Max.
Or just: I own two HDTV's and can view 720P and 1080i without upscaling or downscaling.
A lot of us, like me, have more than one HDTV. One of mine is 1080i native, the other 720P native.
I'm in the same boat.
Post by: deadparrot on March 18, 2006, 03:57:00 AM
QUOTE(xbox nkotb @ Mar 18 2006, 10:15 AM)
have you compare hows the picture quality when 720p and 1080i? is there any difference?
Yes, there is an improvement. The picture is very crisp, but it made UnleashX run too slow, so I stick with 720p.
I'll do more testing when I get my 360 tomorrow!
Post by: autonymous on March 18, 2006, 09:04:00 AM
The Xbox and the 360 look awesome on it, though. Haven't had it professionally calibrated yet, but I have thrown Video Essentials at it a couple of times.
Post by: nectar12 on March 18, 2006, 02:00:00 PM
Post by: focusracer1 on March 18, 2006, 06:07:00 PM
Post by: xs2man on March 19, 2006, 06:40:00 AM
I recently bought a HD compatible projector, and run my 360 through VGA cables (so no HDTV, but max 360 resolution). I also have a MONSTER optical digital cable for my surround sound so its pretty sweet.
I was weighing up the pro's and con's with the HDTV, but I figured, for the money, I would prefer a screen twice the size, for half the price. Its LCD anyway, so its all good.
I'm sure a HDTV will be the way to go in the future when the price comes down, but for just now, I don't think a good projector can be beaten on the basis of price / screen size....
Post by: funnyperson1 on March 20, 2006, 02:52:00 AM
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Post by: SICKdimension on March 21, 2006, 09:10:00 PM
Post by: True Vox on March 22, 2006, 08:21:00 PM
Post by: gehx on March 22, 2006, 08:52:00 PM
QUOTE(True Vox @ Mar 22 2006, 10:28 PM)
*Sigh* I tried to talk the wife into letting my buy a 21" CRT, and a little TV Stuff to Computer Stuff converter-in-a-box, AND a set of speakers (All this at a little over $200), but she wouldn't go for it. It was "Too ugly" in her opinion. So we went with just a 20" flat screen CRT (or what ever it's called: The normal TV's that don't have a rounded screen - it's supposed to be sharper or something) with an S-Video in for $110. What a bloody waste. Next time, I'm... Oh, who am I kidding? I'm too addicted to sleeping in the bed as opposed to the dog house to stand up to her.
roflmao.....I hear you bro! my wife would have a shit fit if I went out and bought any more electronics! I'd really like a bigger TV w/ a sharper pic to play my x360 on, that'll have to wait.
Post by: jherre6 on March 22, 2006, 09:01:00 PM
QUOTE(BasicAir @ Mar 16 2006, 12:38 AM)
It had nothing to do with you, kid. I am old enough to be your father, believe me. He didn't only call me a "dork" but he also opened up his statement with "don't lose any sleep over it" which was another uncalled for, completely immature thing to do.
Another person has made a suggestion for the poll... Should we all start flaming him?
Come on now, your post is totally irrational and you should think before you type your message and had you done so you would have realized just how immature you're acting as well.
It was over when I responded to his uncalled for response. Why bring up many days old topics of conversation and drag it on and also involve yourself?
That's class right there.
Just drop it, lol. Clearly a lot of you kids and adults younger than myself don't belong on these boards if all you want to do is bring negative energy with your negative posts.
Can we call this topic 'over' and 'done with' now already? I'd bet not.. I'd bet someone, maybe even yourself, is going to fire back with yet another immature response.
Personally I get a riot out of it but at the same time I want to try to teach you youngins some respect and that's why I reply to the attacks against myself.
You know the saying "you learn something new everyday?" Well, you just did, congratulations to you, too. I hope your message board ettiquite gets better, kid.
*pats ya on the back*
Sincerely,
BasicAir
Post by: madsci1016 on March 23, 2006, 09:33:00 PM
Actually is xga, but its closest to 720p
Bought a broken xga native projector on ebay for $300, 1300 lumen 300:1 contrast lcd
Dont ever buy DLP, single chip that is. Actually found an article that the color wheel causes mental stress to some people. i know i cant stand looking at their images.
Anyway, so basiclly i have a 80" hdtv at 720P resolution, for $300 and a little part swaping, and its REAL easy to bring to a friends house for some lan gaming.
i use an x2vga+ to connect and a little tweaking with XBMC and im good.
Post by: Lizotte on March 25, 2006, 06:17:00 AM
QUOTE(ucfknight @ Mar 21 2006, 11:53 PM)
Only if you have an analog CRT HDTV (direct view or rear-projection) can you truly have a 1080i TV. CRTs will display the image in its native format up to the TVs maximum resolution. Some may upconvert to other resolutions.
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1080p: Only if you bought your LCD (flat panel), DLP, or LCOS (SXRD) within the past year or so and it is specifically marked at 1920x1080 in the specification for the panel resolution. This would be a small number or HDTV owners.
Of course, there are exceptions to every rule. But this information applies to most TVs.
Yes, you left out CRT projection systems
I've got an industrial style CRT projector, an NEC XG110LC projecting onto a 10 foot diagonal screen. It can do 1080p, but it gets a little fuzzy at that so I run it at 1080i and it looks spectacular. Comdemned is creepy as hell at that size, and split screen ghost recon you actually both feel like you have a big screen to look at
And whew DOA4 is unbelievable....
Post by: Roupus on March 25, 2006, 07:28:00 AM
Post by: babanoosh on March 26, 2006, 09:15:00 AM
QUOTE(epsilon72 @ Mar 18 2006, 02:08 AM)
I own a wuxga monitor which *kind of* serves as my HDTV. Looking into buying a Sceptre 37" 1080p LCD. (maybe I should wait w/ SED on the horizon...)
Parents have a cheap Sony 30" 480p/1080i crt that does a good job when I get sick of playing stretched xbox1 on my monitor.
Do it! I bought the 37" Naga and it's an excellent LCD! 1080p, Built in ATSC and QAM, and $1500 after rebate. Plus with the Big "C", you're more or less renting it if you decide to get another set 6 months or even 1 year down the road. I dare not go past the manufacturer's warranty and than change my mind, but they'd most likely take it, with a good excuse (i.e. the manufacturer won't fix these bugs I've been addressing to them for months and I'm fed up).
Here's a pic of mine with that I posted on "Post your 360 Pictures".
Post by: shank69xo on March 26, 2006, 11:27:00 AM
I feel left out. My itch for a HDTV has grown alot since I got my 360. My TV wasn't good enough for it, so i play on my 21" PC LCD. Looks like Im going to have to go run up my Circuit City charge again.
Post by: Lizotte on March 26, 2006, 04:06:00 PM
QUOTE(HallertauRogue @ Mar 26 2006, 11:02 PM)
I have a Panasonic Commercial/Pro level plasma: 50phd8UK
It supports up to 1080p through the right conenction and refresh rate, 1080i for all other HD connections.
yeah, but its only displaying 768p... even if it 'supports' higher
Heres the actual specs
Specs for 50phd8UK
Post by: RELIC on March 26, 2006, 08:03:00 PM
Post by: Bullwinkle on March 26, 2006, 10:25:00 PM
Downloaded a few 1080p clips to see what it could do... was crystal clear. They replaced the model with a 720p model, but the 3rd version due out is supposed to be 1080p again.
Post by: \h3x01A4 on March 28, 2006, 01:09:00 PM
Post by: seann33uk on March 29, 2006, 08:48:00 AM
i mean why buy one now? In 10 years time they'll bring out a TDTV(True definition) or a RDTV(realDefinition) and the HDTV's will become another carboot £50 item that are classed as the better colour TV of today.I say live with the cheap and buy the new when it's old.
XBOX's are another thing £300 for a x360....so 
wait 2 years it will be still on the market along with micro$oft xboxhandbox but will be £100- £150 cheaper.
Post by: unleashdomainx on June 15, 2006, 08:59:00 PM
Post by: TheSchonk on June 30, 2006, 10:38:00 PM
Post by: bumr055 on August 24, 2006, 09:38:00 AM
my cousin's mom bought a widescreen one for the living room and my cousin bought a 62"! his room isnt even 62 inches!!! i have a small tv like 25 and its not high def!!!
Post by: jagermike on December 12, 2006, 12:51:00 PM
Post by: codegamer on January 16, 2007, 09:49:00 AM
mine is 36"
Post by: tuna69 on February 10, 2007, 07:34:00 PM
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