yep, that worked (figure you already knew it would :) ). except hexworkshop keeps crashing when i try to paste into a new file. dunno why. worked on one. not on the others. oh well, at least i see kinda what was going on. basically i'm trying to learn little here, little there. but thanks though.
EDIT: kinda got it. lame though. cut from hexworkshop, paste in different hex program. odd. guessing its a memory issue or something.