Post by: SkinlessArtist on January 01, 2013, 11:44:00 AM
QUOTE(Ozy @ May 30 2005, 11:35 PM) 
Only 4 players per console, but unlike the PS3 it can have more than 7 wireless controllers in a room.
You can have as many xbox 360s in a room all with four wireless controllers.
Just have a lan match if you want more that 4 players.
ok man.. i have the PES 2012. i wanna play this game with 4 friends.so it's me and other 4 guys, so 5 controllers... the game supports these 5 controllers but does the xbox 360 support them???? we wanna play at the same time.... please answer......
Post by: broadwayblue on May 30, 2005, 03:39:00 PM
Post by: Ozy on May 30, 2005, 03:42:00 PM
You can have as many xbox 360s in a room all with four wireless controllers.
Just have a lan match if you want more that 4 players.
Post by: Skitals on May 30, 2005, 04:08:00 PM
QUOTE(Ozy @ May 30 2005, 10:46 PM)
Only 4 players per console, but unlike the PS3 it can have more than 7 wireless controllers in a room.
You can have as many xbox 360s in a room all with four wireless controllers.
Just have a lan match if you want more that 4 players.
You can have as many xbox 360s in a room all with four wireless controllers.
Just have a lan match if you want more that 4 players.
Why do you think you cant have more then 7 ps3 controllers in one room? The 7 thing is the limit for the number of bluetooth devices it can actively be connected to. With more ps3s and more controllers you just pair them to that console.
Post by: mbratton on May 30, 2005, 05:05:00 PM
Post by: broadwayblue on May 30, 2005, 05:29:00 PM
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Post by: Owtlaw333 on May 30, 2005, 08:24:00 PM
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Post by: OR-G on May 31, 2005, 02:40:00 AM
The ability to play with 6 friends + yourself all on a single game without having to switch controllers between each other is a great idea. Adds a lot more fun to party games and most likely means there will be a lot more games that will be simple fun games that are also targetted towards women (for those of us that have girlfriends, who don't play halo).
Sort of like fuzion frenzy, and super monkey ball. Simple easy games that women can play and provides simplistic fun for a group. Now if you just want to sit there and play FPS all day, might as well just play it on the computer.
Post by: TB2ZI on May 31, 2005, 12:03:00 PM
Post by: redwolf on May 31, 2005, 01:56:00 PM
@ TB2ZI
Not sure, but does the bluetooth signal/device cross connect? i mean, doesn't it register it-self to a device to be used only for that device?!?
Post by: gamerguy999 on May 31, 2005, 02:01:00 PM
QUOTE(Ozy @ May 30 2005, 03:46 PM)
Only 4 players per console, but unlike the PS3 it can have more than 7 wireless controllers in a room.
You can have as many xbox 360s in a room all with four wireless controllers.
Just have a lan match if you want more that 4 players.
You can have as many xbox 360s in a room all with four wireless controllers.
Just have a lan match if you want more that 4 players.
With xbox 360, you will be able to have no more then 16 wireless controllers in the same room. The reason being is that there are only 16 channels, and if you had more then one controller on the same channel, they would interfier with each other.
It's the same with the Gamecube's Wavebirds, 16 channels.
Post by: thax on May 31, 2005, 02:20:00 PM
QUOTE(gamerguy999 @ May 31 2005, 10:05 PM)
With xbox 360, you will be able to have no more then 16 wireless controllers in the same room. The reason being is that there are only 16 channels, and if you had more then one controller on the same channel, they would interfier with each other.
It's the same with the Gamecube's Wavebirds, 16 channels.
It's the same with the Gamecube's Wavebirds, 16 channels.
Actually it is 256 for the x360.
Post by: peach_nick on May 31, 2005, 02:24:00 PM
Post by: JesseWHHS on May 31, 2005, 02:36:00 PM
Post by: gamerguy999 on May 31, 2005, 02:41:00 PM
QUOTE(peach_nick @ May 31 2005, 02:28 PM)
x360 has wireless usb 2.0 which is a new technology developed by MS, it supports up to 255 devices or channels, so you could really support a massive lan party in a single room, you could have 64 xbox360's lan party connected with 4 people on each box and no interference from everyone else...
Oh, I read that you could only have 16, I thought it was an interview with one of the MS guys, but I guess I was wrong :P
Post by: thax on May 31, 2005, 03:40:00 PM
QUOTE(broadwayblue @ May 31 2005, 11:44 PM)
so why limit the number of players to 4 on any one 360 if it could support so many more? i understand that many games wouldn't be able to use more than 4...but a lot would. not all games require split screen for multiplayer gaming...so it seems foolish to arbitrarily limit the system to 4 when the capability is so much greater.
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: Reaper527 on May 31, 2005, 04:21:00 PM
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Post by: Reaper527 on May 31, 2005, 04:21:00 PM
QUOTE(thax @ May 31 2005, 11:51 PM)
What games currenly support more than 4 players on the Xbox?
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: Twasi on May 31, 2005, 04:48:00 PM
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I don't see why they would limit it to only 4 unless it has something to do with production costs, but there are very few games that I would feel comfortable having more than 4 people on the screen, split screen or not. The fact is very few games would benefit from having more than 4 players. Plus who wants to fork over $300 more to buy the extra 6 wireless controllers?!?! and that's just at the standard price of $50 which they may very well be $60+ which would put it close to $400, I guess the bottom line is right now I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything by not having 3 more controllers, my opinion might change is Sony releases anything that is interesting and releases that content consistantly.
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: Tacoma_Kyle on May 31, 2005, 11:54:00 PM
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Speculation:
The PS3 has 7 controllers cause they used bluetooth. MS pretty much rigged up their own, right? PS needed that tech so they bought it and figured 7 controlers would be better for marketing and a some games. They didn't have to spend the time to develope it, so 7 is typically better than 4 right? Well at least you can safely network Xbox's with the 255 channels. What I'm wondering is howyou find the channel? Anyone know?
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: xdude420 on June 01, 2005, 06:48:00 AM
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Post by: Twasi on May 31, 2005, 04:48:00 PM
Post by: Tacoma_Kyle on May 31, 2005, 11:54:00 PM
The PS3 has 7 controllers cause they used bluetooth. MS pretty much rigged up their own, right? PS needed that tech so they bought it and figured 7 controlers would be better for marketing and a some games. They didn't have to spend the time to develope it, so 7 is typically better than 4 right? Well at least you can safely network Xbox's with the 255 channels. What I'm wondering is howyou find the channel? Anyone know?
Post by: xdude420 on June 01, 2005, 06:48:00 AM
QUOTE(Tacoma_Kyle @ Jun 1 2005, 02:05 AM)
Speculation:
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: Ickypoopy on June 01, 2005, 07:54:00 AM
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Maybe they will release a "wireless multi-tap" ? They have the USB 2.0 ports in the back which could be used for this sort of expansion. Dont think for a second that MS would miss out on the opportunity to sell you something.
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: ZakMcRofl on June 01, 2005, 07:57:00 AM
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Question: Why more than 4 controllers?
Answer: Bomberman!
Seriously if you ever played Atomic Bomberman with 10 players on a PC, you'll beg for support for more controllers.
The problem is that todays games are just not innovative. It's always yet another first person shooter. I miss new things coming up like ChuChu Rocket on Dreamcast or practically every game from the Good Old Days TM
Besides, there are lots of sport games that would hugely benefit from this. The production cost is almost zero, they just need to add it to the XDK.
I really really hope they don't hardcode it to 4 player max, give developers the freedom to find new ideas for 5+ players!
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: twistedsymphony on June 01, 2005, 08:26:00 AM
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So what if PS3 supports 7 boomerangs the games still have to support it. I remember Worms on the dreamcast forced you to pass the controller around even if you were playing with only 2 people. Sure the Dreamcast supported 4 controllers, and I had 4 controllers but the game didn't support it, so it was useless.
Do you really think the rich greedy bastards at EA are going to include 5+ player support in the new Madden if all but 1 console only has 4 controllers? there's no way in hell they're going to go the extra mile for that last platform to give you 5+ player support. Especially since there's no competition to worry about. If there was more than one platform... maybe.
Besides even sports and party games would get way too crowded at 5+ players... think of it this way... in sports games the camera would have to be zoomed further out loosing detail. In party games you'd get the same thing, in addition to certain game types that would have to be dropped with those extra players because the game simply wouldn't be able to handle it.
In the end if you can afford the extra $400 in controllers for the occasional 5+ player game you can probably afford another console and TV to do system link.
...and if you're complaint is that they games you like don't support system link... then you have to ask yourself if those same lazy developers would bother to go the extra mile in supporting 5+ controllers?
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: lostboyz on June 01, 2005, 10:21:00 AM
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judging by the fact that everyone has wireless controllers, party games such as mario party or the like, are turn based anyway, just pass the controller.
that and I agree with twisted, just because the technology supports it dosent mean developers will go the extra mile to support it
the xbox360 can support 255 items, you think anyone would make a game that could have 255 players at a time? not that its plausible you fit 255 people into one room to play that game.
mythoughts.....
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: Twasi on June 01, 2005, 06:13:00 PM
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Can anyone clear up the PS3 controller count? so is it only 7 within 30 or so feet or 14 because 2 can run on the same frequency? Does anyone have an article that explains this because I have only seen people say "it can only have 7 within 30 feet" can anyone explain to me why?
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: Exige_ on June 02, 2005, 10:57:00 AM
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Post by: Ickypoopy on June 01, 2005, 07:54:00 AM
Post by: ZakMcRofl on June 01, 2005, 07:57:00 AM
Answer: Bomberman!
Seriously if you ever played Atomic Bomberman with 10 players on a PC, you'll beg for support for more controllers.
The problem is that todays games are just not innovative. It's always yet another first person shooter. I miss new things coming up like ChuChu Rocket on Dreamcast or practically every game from the Good Old Days TM
Besides, there are lots of sport games that would hugely benefit from this. The production cost is almost zero, they just need to add it to the XDK.
I really really hope they don't hardcode it to 4 player max, give developers the freedom to find new ideas for 5+ players!
Post by: twistedsymphony on June 01, 2005, 08:26:00 AM
So what if PS3 supports 7 boomerangs the games still have to support it. I remember Worms on the dreamcast forced you to pass the controller around even if you were playing with only 2 people. Sure the Dreamcast supported 4 controllers, and I had 4 controllers but the game didn't support it, so it was useless.
Do you really think the rich greedy bastards at EA are going to include 5+ player support in the new Madden if all but 1 console only has 4 controllers? there's no way in hell they're going to go the extra mile for that last platform to give you 5+ player support. Especially since there's no competition to worry about. If there was more than one platform... maybe.
Besides even sports and party games would get way too crowded at 5+ players... think of it this way... in sports games the camera would have to be zoomed further out loosing detail. In party games you'd get the same thing, in addition to certain game types that would have to be dropped with those extra players because the game simply wouldn't be able to handle it.
In the end if you can afford the extra $400 in controllers for the occasional 5+ player game you can probably afford another console and TV to do system link.
...and if you're complaint is that they games you like don't support system link... then you have to ask yourself if those same lazy developers would bother to go the extra mile in supporting 5+ controllers?
Post by: lostboyz on June 01, 2005, 10:21:00 AM
that and I agree with twisted, just because the technology supports it dosent mean developers will go the extra mile to support it
the xbox360 can support 255 items, you think anyone would make a game that could have 255 players at a time? not that its plausible you fit 255 people into one room to play that game.
mythoughts.....
Post by: Twasi on June 01, 2005, 06:13:00 PM
Post by: Exige_ on June 02, 2005, 10:57:00 AM
QUOTE(OR-G @ May 31 2005, 04:44 AM)
Wow.. must every game be a FPS, racing, or sports game? No wonder MS keeps churning out the same game over and over again. Of course it'd suck to split a screen 5 or 6 ways, but lots of games can be played with several players without split screen. Oh wait... thats right, the xbox has very few of those games compared to the other two consoles.
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: broadwayblue on June 04, 2005, 09:24:00 AM
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Post by: broadwayblue on June 04, 2005, 09:24:00 AM
QUOTE(rockola @ Jun 4 2005, 12:34 AM)
bah, announcing any more controllers than 4 is pretty much like saying a car has 2 spare tires, whats the point? only about 1 in 100 or more games will even support more than 4 players on the same console. yea any more than 4 isnt worth braging about really. its one of those things that sony said 7 now everyone has 7 in thier head, its marketing. but its not an advantage cause 4 is all your gonna get in the real world of gaming.
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: Staple on June 04, 2005, 09:29:00 AM
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sony's 7 doesnt mean its for 7 controllers it could be 4x co ntrollers + remote + mouse + keyboard or whatever.......i rarley ever play an xbox game that utilizes more then 2 players anyways
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: Owtlaw333 on June 04, 2005, 12:19:00 PM
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Post by: Staple on June 04, 2005, 09:29:00 AM
Post by: Owtlaw333 on June 04, 2005, 12:19:00 PM
QUOTE(OR-G @ May 31 2005, 12:44 AM)
Wow.. must every game be a FPS, racing, or sports game? No wonder MS keeps churning out the same game over and over again. Of course it'd suck to split a screen 5 or 6 ways, but lots of games can be played with several players without split screen. Oh wait... thats right, the xbox has very few of those games compared to the other two consoles.
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: Elusive hacker on June 08, 2005, 09:16:00 PM
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you never know what hacks might come out for the ps3 and bluetooth
Bluetooth Hack info
Just a thought
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: Carlo210 on June 09, 2005, 05:26:00 AM
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Post by: Elusive hacker on June 08, 2005, 09:16:00 PM
you never know what hacks might come out for the ps3 and bluetooth
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Cryptographers have discovered a way to hack Bluetooth-enabled devices even when security features are switched on. The discovery may make it even easier for hackers to eavesdrop on conversations and charge their own calls to someone elses cellphone
Bluetooth Hack info
Just a thought
Post by: Carlo210 on June 09, 2005, 05:26:00 AM
QUOTE(broadwayblue @ Jun 4 2005, 05:35 PM)
exactly how do you come up with your 1 in 100 figure? in any event it takes hardware support first, before the software would think to support it. if you build it they will come so to speak. you just wait and see...i promise you that when the ps3 rolls in supporting up to 7 controllers the games will follow. really, how much money would it take for a game developer to add support for a 5th player? my guess is hardly anthing at all. i mean there's already 10 characters on the screen at a time in a basketball game...so you're just allowing an extra controller support for one (or three) more of them. not a big deal on the software side. just wait and see...it will happen.
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: Andy51 on June 09, 2005, 03:11:00 PM
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The only thing I see the seven controllers being used for is sports, maybe games like Lord of the Rings: Return of the King, it had two-players, which you could play on one screen.
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: Twasi on June 09, 2005, 05:33:00 PM
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During pairing two Bluetooth devices establish the 128-bit secret link key that they then store and use to encrypt all further communication. The first step requires the legitimate users to type the same secret, four-digit PIN into both devices. The two devices then use this PIN in a complex process to arrive at the common link key.
The person needs to pick up the signal and brute the PIN which is relatively easy to do one a phone since the PIN is only for digits, although keyboards and other app's have more I believe, You have to be relatively close to pick up the signal and crack the PIN so unless your buddies are in the next room pointing an antenna at you holding their lap top, no one will interfere with the PS3's controllers. That is all based on phones though so controllers and such may work totaly different, I don't know much about bluetooth.
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: blackchild1101 on June 10, 2005, 09:02:00 AM
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or 14 guys or gals, 2 rooms, 4 monitors, 2 PS3s', 14 controllers. OMG, I just wet myself.
Now your probalby wondering were am I gonna get 13 friends to play a game. If you live in a dorm then it shouldn't be a problem. My buddies and I all get together and have 16 player slayer fests in Halo just about every weekend.
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: chilin_dude on June 11, 2005, 06:01:00 AM
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Post by: Andy51 on June 09, 2005, 03:11:00 PM
Post by: Twasi on June 09, 2005, 05:33:00 PM
The person needs to pick up the signal and brute the PIN which is relatively easy to do one a phone since the PIN is only for digits, although keyboards and other app's have more I believe, You have to be relatively close to pick up the signal and crack the PIN so unless your buddies are in the next room pointing an antenna at you holding their lap top, no one will interfere with the PS3's controllers. That is all based on phones though so controllers and such may work totaly different, I don't know much about bluetooth.
Post by: blackchild1101 on June 10, 2005, 09:02:00 AM
or 14 guys or gals, 2 rooms, 4 monitors, 2 PS3s', 14 controllers. OMG, I just wet myself.
Now your probalby wondering were am I gonna get 13 friends to play a game. If you live in a dorm then it shouldn't be a problem. My buddies and I all get together and have 16 player slayer fests in Halo just about every weekend.
Post by: chilin_dude on June 11, 2005, 06:01:00 AM
QUOTE(OR-G @ May 31 2005, 10:44 AM)
Wow.. must every game be a FPS, racing, or sports game? No wonder MS keeps churning out the same game over and over again. Of course it'd suck to split a screen 5 or 6 ways, but lots of games can be played with several players without split screen. Oh wait... thats right, the xbox has very few of those games compared to the other two consoles.
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: P@nz3R on June 11, 2005, 10:12:00 AM
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will the ps3 have 4 ports on the console or will it require the multi-tap device to fully function. tell me you weren't pissed when ps2 still used a multi-tap. they are expensive also.
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: Carlo210 on June 11, 2005, 10:19:00 AM
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Yeah, like, who ever played Goldeneye with their friends?! Pfft.
Or Halo? Pfftt.
lol, I'm just pojnting out that shooters are a very fun multiplayer game as well.
It would be nice having one of those 'you lose and you laugh' kinda games like super monkey ball when you are with your friends, but I guess there is a reason why people prefer halo instead.
I like games like super monkey ball (I haven't played it, but I've played games like it) and yes they are fun, but I also remember playing 2 player deathmatches with my brother over Jet force gemini, one of the funnest console shooters I've played. Then i remember playing a lot of mario party as well. I guess people just have preferences.
BTW, I really dislike playing shooters over pc's because I can't help but feel like I am playing a point and shoot game with a mouse, all in my opinion. When I play with a controller, I just love the feel of strafing and walking sideways with the joysticks and looking up and to the side while waslking etc. I just like the whole controller thing personally. But playing with mice are much better since you obviously have better coordination and can zip to a target in a flash.
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: P@nz3R on June 11, 2005, 10:47:00 AM
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i still play mario kart for SNES with my friend weekly. games like that are legends. most games today seem to be made with much haste and less thought. maybe there will be more blockbusters on 360 than there were on xbox. halo made the xbox.
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: Carlo210 on June 11, 2005, 11:08:00 AM
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Well Halo has the auto aim to make it funner to shoot people while jumping, but yes it is overdone and, shouldn't even fucking be there in the first place, but oh well. If you are 1v1, at least you BOTH have auto aim, it's jsut that people can kill easier.
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: Andy51 on June 12, 2005, 11:38:00 AM
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I barely notice the auto-aim being very annoying? It's not that great? I didn't think it wasn't that effective? Was it with the auto-update for Halo 2? I don't have Xbox Live you know.
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: Carlo210 on June 12, 2005, 11:42:00 AM
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I never said it was annoying, just made players require less skill to kill another player. The thing is, you all have auto-aim, so no one actually has an advantage, so it's all good.
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: Andy51 on June 12, 2005, 11:44:00 AM
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I don't think it makes a difference anyways.
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: blackchild1101 on June 15, 2005, 09:02:00 PM
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Could you elaborate more on this. Your gonna have to excuse me I've been up 24 hrs and I can barely open my eyes and comprehend anything.
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: twistedsymphony on June 16, 2005, 07:36:00 AM
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Post by: P@nz3R on June 11, 2005, 10:12:00 AM
Post by: Carlo210 on June 11, 2005, 10:19:00 AM
Or Halo? Pfftt.
lol, I'm just pojnting out that shooters are a very fun multiplayer game as well.
It would be nice having one of those 'you lose and you laugh' kinda games like super monkey ball when you are with your friends, but I guess there is a reason why people prefer halo instead.
I like games like super monkey ball (I haven't played it, but I've played games like it) and yes they are fun, but I also remember playing 2 player deathmatches with my brother over Jet force gemini, one of the funnest console shooters I've played. Then i remember playing a lot of mario party as well. I guess people just have preferences.
BTW, I really dislike playing shooters over pc's because I can't help but feel like I am playing a point and shoot game with a mouse, all in my opinion. When I play with a controller, I just love the feel of strafing and walking sideways with the joysticks and looking up and to the side while waslking etc. I just like the whole controller thing personally. But playing with mice are much better since you obviously have better coordination and can zip to a target in a flash.
Post by: P@nz3R on June 11, 2005, 10:47:00 AM
i still play mario kart for SNES with my friend weekly. games like that are legends. most games today seem to be made with much haste and less thought. maybe there will be more blockbusters on 360 than there were on xbox. halo made the xbox.
Post by: Carlo210 on June 11, 2005, 11:08:00 AM
Post by: Andy51 on June 12, 2005, 11:38:00 AM
Post by: Carlo210 on June 12, 2005, 11:42:00 AM
Post by: Andy51 on June 12, 2005, 11:44:00 AM
Post by: blackchild1101 on June 15, 2005, 09:02:00 PM
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They could make it so four people could network wirelessly with two tv's and two 360's with each player having half a screen AND each player had thier own camera angle to better play and see the game all seamlessly and the ability to scale that up to each player on the floor.
EA's not going to do that. They will try to keep us happy with 4 player one screen action with slight improvements for fifty bucks a year even on 360.
EA's not going to do that. They will try to keep us happy with 4 player one screen action with slight improvements for fifty bucks a year even on 360.
Could you elaborate more on this. Your gonna have to excuse me I've been up 24 hrs and I can barely open my eyes and comprehend anything.
Post by: twistedsymphony on June 16, 2005, 07:36:00 AM
QUOTE(blackchild1101 @ Jun 15 2005, 11:13 PM)
Could you elaborate more on this. Your gonna have to excuse me I've been up 24 hrs and I can barely open my eyes and comprehend anything.
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Title: What Is The Maximum Number Of Players Supported?
Post by: reidtheweed01 on June 16, 2005, 11:35:00 PM
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Post by: reidtheweed01 on June 16, 2005, 11:35:00 PM
QUOTE(Owtlaw333 @ May 30 2005, 10:28 PM)
Why would you (or MS) want to put more than 4 player to a console? The only games that would somewhat benefit are sports games. Almost every other game requires split screen and it's bad enough to play with a screen split into 4. It would be a waste of time and money to impliment more than that.