Post by: SyphOnm on April 16, 2007, 04:01:00 PM
About 10 days ago i approached him with some skin ideas.
I asked him if he would like to make a skin with me. He agreed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
We started this skin by using clearity skin as a base.
Just look at the screens and feel free to try. I included 2 extra color scheme's
Download url: http://members.home.nl/m.h.hendrikx/xbmc/Concept.rar
I still don't have a name for the skin so i was hoping u guys have some idea's.
Standard (Mint)
(IMG:http://members.home.nl/m.h.hendrikx/xbmc/Skin/Mint_thumb.png)
Orange
(IMG:http://members.home.nl/m.h.hendrikx/xbmc/Skin/Orange_thumb.png)
Blue
(IMG:http://members.home.nl/m.h.hendrikx/xbmc/Skin/Blue_thumb.png)
Feel free to comment, post suggestions etc.
This post has been edited by SyphOnm: Apr 16 2007, 11:05 PM
Post by: BecomethemonsteR on April 16, 2007, 04:36:00 PM
Post by: SyphOnm on April 16, 2007, 04:40:00 PM
Download url:
http://members.home.nl/m.h.hendrikx/xbmc/Concept.rar
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
This post has been edited by SyphOnm: Apr 16 2007, 11:47 PM
Post by: Fused0ne on April 16, 2007, 06:19:00 PM
Just wanted to post a possible bug. When you are somewhere other then the HOME page, the time is behind the top black bar. And for example if your in Music, its not centered in the black bar if its suppose to be, but that could be resolution I guess.
But yeah the time is blocked by the black bar, and no time on the HOME page?
Great work!
Post by: SyphOnm on April 17, 2007, 02:36:00 AM
QUOTE(Fused0ne @ Apr 17 2007, 01:50 AM) 
Very nice!
Just wanted to post a possible bug. When you are somewhere other then the HOME page, the time is behind the top black bar. And for example if your in Music, its not centered in the black bar if its suppose to be, but that could be resolution I guess.
But yeah the time is blocked by the black bar, and no time on the HOME page?
Great work!
Fixed.
Updated the rar file.
Time on the home screen can be enabled @ skin options.
Post by: XBNormUK on April 17, 2007, 07:24:00 AM
I have literally just played with it for a few mins so my first impressions are.....
1. Lack of text on title screen for icons, ie, as you scroll from movies, pics, games whatever, I would prefer some text to show me what im currently highlighting. If the design is led by having no text then fine, leave it be because it does look nice and sleek, but maybe if that was the thinking you could make the text look like part of the background rather than a small text in a brighter colour jumping out at you. you could probably use a large text but knock down the opacity, fade it behind the background, something like this (obviously I dont have the layers to do it properly but maybe you get the idea.....
(IMG:http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e352/XBNormUK/quickie.jpg)
also, just thought, never skinned for XBMC so not sure how they work but if it needed an animation or anything rather than the text just changing you could just slide it in from the left to a fixed point on the right for each one.
2. Any chance of adding more view's, i am liking the large views in xtv at the mo so you see album art nice n big.
Just my thought anyways, Other than that good stuff, like I say havent had a proper play around yet.
This post has been edited by XBNormUK: Apr 17 2007, 02:29 PM
Post by: SyphOnm on April 17, 2007, 07:33:00 AM
2. Will see.
Post by: XBNormUK on April 17, 2007, 07:45:00 AM
This post has been edited by XBNormUK: Apr 17 2007, 02:51 PM
Post by: SyphOnm on April 17, 2007, 08:06:00 AM
i'll look in to that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: BecomethemonsteR on April 17, 2007, 07:33:00 AM
QUOTE(SyphOnm @ Apr 17 2007, 09:37 AM) 
Sure,
i'll look in to that
NO DON'T! Don't put text on the main page. It is perfect the way it is. The icons could be a little bit bigger but it is fine the way it is. The only thing I seen out of place was the time behind the bar.
Post by: SyphOnm on April 17, 2007, 08:14:00 AM
QUOTE
NO DON'T! Don't put text on the main page. It is perfect the way it is. The icons could be a little bit bigger but it is fine the way it is. The only thing I seen out of place was the time behind the bar.
No i ment a disc icon when a disc is inserted to the xbox.
Text on the homescreen are already optional (Skin options under settings)
people just dont look good i guess (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Post by: CHI3f on April 17, 2007, 09:54:00 AM
QUOTE(SyphOnm @ Apr 16 2007, 05:32 PM)
No credit to Smokehead for you know like..............................making Clearity.
Post by: shizzle01 on April 17, 2007, 12:09:00 PM
Post by: SyphOnm on April 17, 2007, 03:20:00 PM
thx to smokehead for making clearity
thx for xbox-scene for hosting these forums, thx to team xbmc for xbmc, thx to microsoft for making the actual xbox etc. etc.
did i forget anyone?
Post by: jazzen1 on April 18, 2007, 05:23:00 AM
QUOTE(SyphOnm @ Apr 17 2007, 10:51 PM)
lol here we go:
thx to smokehead for making clearity
thx for xbox-scene for hosting these forums, thx to team xbmc for xbmc, thx to microsoft for making the actual xbox etc. etc.
did i forget anyone?
No, u did not!
Keep up the good work, this is looking niiiice
some things thoug... wouldnt it be nice if the animation on wrapping on homescreen is a bit smoother, like it is in some of the other skins. its a bit stakato. And the icons on homescreen are cool but have u tried with some thats a but more colorful?
The text on the homescreen are a bit misplaced and dull i think, is it possible to fresh it up a bit to match the skin better?
Like on homescreen the wrapview on music/video are a bit stakato on the animations... pm3 and others looks much smoother.... it it possible to fix that (maybe even make the one in focus a bit bigger)..
Thnx for a great skin!
-j
Post by: artnada on April 18, 2007, 07:24:00 AM
1 question. I now have the text showing when you scroll the home buttons, I would like to change the text "Programs" to "games", but cannot find the exact file to alter. Could you please let me kow which .aml file I would need to alter.
home.xml
includes.xml or other?
Thank you.
Post by: SyphOnm on April 18, 2007, 07:50:00 AM
or
"XBMC\skins\Concept\PAL\HomeSubNavigation.xml"
CODE
Change it to
CODE
Post by: artnada on April 18, 2007, 08:03:00 AM
Post by: ltGuillaume on April 18, 2007, 03:38:00 PM
Post by: SyphOnm on April 18, 2007, 03:58:00 PM
Maybe someone else knows what the problem is? The original clearity skin has the same problem.
Post by: Jezz_X on April 18, 2007, 04:05:00 PM
and most scripts look for list-focus.png because its what PM3 uses
Post by: funkmasta on April 18, 2007, 05:18:00 PM
Post by: jazzen1 on April 19, 2007, 01:14:00 AM
Im i the only one that has this prob?
And also the OSD does not fit the skin! It uses the PM3 OSD, will u make one thats more in the style of the rest of the skin?
cheers
-jazz
Post by: SyphOnm on April 19, 2007, 01:35:00 AM
QUOTE(jazzen1 @ Apr 19 2007, 09:21 AM)
The set background function doesnt work.. I have the newest xbmc build and the newest version of your skin. The background turns black.. Tried several background.
Im i the only one that has this prob?
And also the OSD does not fit the skin! It uses the PM3 OSD, will u make one thats more in the style of the rest of the skin?
cheers
-jazz
Oh ok i'll look in to the background function. by OSD you mean audio osd? video osd has been redone. I'll fix the audio osd today
Post by: jazzen1 on April 19, 2007, 01:42:00 AM
QUOTE(SyphOnm @ Apr 19 2007, 09:42 AM)
Oh ok i'll look in to the background function. by OSD you mean audio osd? video osd has been redone. I'll fix the audio osd today
aaah.. g-g-g-g-reat.. yeah i mean the audio osd, havent checked the video
I really like the way you are going with this skin mate.... still miss a bit smoother animation on the on focus items, both in music/video cover view and on the home page..
and also on the music/video view the items that are not focued are a bit to blurry/dused down i think, possble to make the a bit more easy to see, without loosing the onfocus effekt?
this is not critic, just suggestions/feedback. . I really like this skin and just
Keep it up
Post by: SyphOnm on April 19, 2007, 03:18:00 AM
Music OSD
Custom background switch
Rar file is updated.
Post by: ltGuillaume on April 19, 2007, 05:24:00 AM
2) As posted before, the font for the date/time in the home screen is much too small. Could you increase the size a bit?
3) Could the fonts of the buttons in the bottom bar be increased a bit? I have a 70cm widescreen, but still I have to walk to the TV to be able to read them. (Yeah I thought about buying glasses
But seriously, the button font should really be increased a bit.)
Post by: phistyle on April 19, 2007, 03:42:00 PM
I love the clean simple look of concept...
Post by: dfmos on April 19, 2007, 05:39:00 PM
Post by: SyphOnm on April 20, 2007, 01:44:00 AM
Fixed now.
Post by: MrBaaco on April 20, 2007, 05:57:00 AM
I'll try it tonight and will post feedback... First impression is very nice skin!
Post by: phistyle on April 21, 2007, 02:49:00 AM
Post by: BreEil on April 21, 2007, 07:25:00 PM
Post by: SyphOnm on April 22, 2007, 12:02:00 PM
Post by: BreEil on April 22, 2007, 12:52:00 PM
just a few things though, would it be possible to add now playing for music to the homescreen?
and when i hit the info button on my remote the fonts look very big, is this just me?
thanks SyphOnm
Post by: SyphOnm on April 22, 2007, 01:46:00 PM
Post by: BreEil on April 22, 2007, 03:53:00 PM
Post by: nick10293847 on April 22, 2007, 08:31:00 PM
While I like the look of the icons as they match the background, I would prefer each to be more unique so I can see what is selected more easily. For instance, a big video camera, a big set of headphones, etc. (i give this a go myself), Maybe even a much bigger font for the titles ie music, videos, pictures, settings, weather etc
I dont know if he would allow you but i really find dfmos split screen in the music section which shows what is playing as well as allowing you to browse.
I know this is from the original clearity but personally in the nowplaying screen i would prefer the song title to be bigger than it is. Right now the artist is a larger font and i dont see the logic for this as i am looking for what the title is more often than the artist.
Also i would love to see some better views in the movies and tv sections. In my opinion, alot of screen is wasted on 16/9. Im not sure what the view is called but i would love to see more movies fit on the screen like in the new front row skin. For the tv section one of the tv list views with big thumbnails like in xtv would be great. Also one of the new info views would be great.
There was something else but ive forgotten now.
I really like the skin so far and hope you continue with it cos youre heading in the right direction as far as i am concerned.
Post by: ltGuillaume on April 23, 2007, 05:09:00 AM
QUOTE(nick10293847 @ Apr 23 2007, 04:38 AM)
I know this is from the original clearity but personally in the nowplaying screen i would prefer the song title to be bigger than it is. Right now the artist is a larger font and i dont see the logic for this as i am looking for what the title is more often than the artist.
Seconded. The new skin is really nice. Although I just wiped Vista from my harddisk to install XP again, its visuals are nice 'n fresh, as does your new skin look.
Post by: SyphOnm on April 23, 2007, 07:43:00 AM
Post by: SyphOnm on April 23, 2007, 10:18:00 AM
Or does anyone have a better idea for the icons?
Post by: phistyle on April 23, 2007, 10:26:00 AM
Post by: nick10293847 on April 23, 2007, 04:44:00 PM
But hey, thats just my opinion and i dont speak for everyone.
Really appreciate the work your doing on this.
Post by: ltGuillaume on April 24, 2007, 12:34:00 AM
QUOTE(nick10293847 @ Apr 24 2007, 12:51 AM)
Yeh i like these icons more but i would really prefer them if you made the title about 10 times bigger beneath them. Like in the mockup someone posted earlier. I just think it would make navigating from across the room alot easier.
But hey, thats just my opinion and i dont speak for everyone.
Really appreciate the work your doing on this.
Again, seconded. I really can't choose between the two icon packs when I just look at them on the PC, I'll have to see them on the TV and actually work with them. So, I think you've got yourself two extra textures instead of one. Hell, just release them both, doesn't hurt if you do
Post by: jazzen1 on April 24, 2007, 05:11:00 AM
QUOTE(SyphOnm @ Apr 23 2007, 06:25 PM)
Are these icons better?
Or does anyone have a better idea for the icons?
Me love!!!
I like both of the 2 new sets of icons
and the new bars and everything looks amazing..
some suggestions though..
I still dont think the icons in music/video is a smooth as on other skins. On focus should be much smoother. like in the settings view (u fixed that one some days ago).. Also on the homescreen it should have a bit more animation.. maybe something like the x-cite skin.. I did not like that skin too much but the way onfocused icons are popping in looks nice..
Last thing... i find the osd i bit hard to see... Maybe make it a bit bigger and with some colours matching the rest of the skin?
just suggestions mate, its an amazingly good skin
keep it up
This is just suggestions,
Post by: SyphOnm on April 24, 2007, 07:44:00 AM
A lot of ppl need bigger / better fonts, so that is what i'm working on now.
Post by: sausje on April 26, 2007, 04:16:00 AM
otherwise make in final version 2 version of the skin orso, if not i just wont dl the update
Post by: jazzen1 on April 27, 2007, 05:33:00 AM
QUOTE(SyphOnm @ Apr 24 2007, 03:51 PM)
Well youre quite right jazzen1...
A lot of ppl need bigger / better fonts, so that is what i'm working on now.
How is the work going?
Downloaded the latest one, at least i thought so, but still get the old background/icons etc.. What is the link to the newest version of your skin?
Post by: SyphOnm on April 27, 2007, 10:05:00 AM
QUOTE(jazzen1 @ Apr 27 2007, 01:40 PM)
How is the work going?
Downloaded the latest one, at least i thought so, but still get the old background/icons etc.. What is the link to the newest version of your skin?
Still working, i've been laying on the couch all week, not feeling wel. Got the next few days of so i hope to finish things soon
Post by: phistyle on April 29, 2007, 10:43:00 PM
Post by: jazzen1 on May 07, 2007, 02:14:00 AM
QUOTE(SyphOnm @ May 7 2007, 08:16 AM)
I'm working on some new views:
Working on 4x3 versions
I'll post an updated rar file soon
nice ones... But i see on the screenshots that ur not using library mode? Why is that, and what will those views look like in ligrary view? Cuz your last versions had some missing info in library view
. .Arent u using library mode? seriously?
Post by: SyphOnm on May 07, 2007, 03:05:00 AM
But i can make those views for the library too?
Post by: phistyle on May 07, 2007, 03:27:00 PM
Post by: BreEil on May 07, 2007, 07:44:00 PM
QUOTE(BreEil @ May 8 2007, 02:04 AM)
I think that might be the reflection of the program icon mate, looking foward to an update
your right mate, didnt have my glasses on lol.
Post by: SyphOnm on May 07, 2007, 10:35:00 PM
Hope te post an update soon
Post by: BreEil on May 08, 2007, 09:10:00 AM
Post by: jazzen1 on May 14, 2007, 05:15:00 AM
QUOTE(BreEil @ May 8 2007, 05:46 PM)
eagerly awaiting the update
So am i!!
When can we expect this masterpiece?
Post by: Spykon on May 17, 2007, 04:22:00 AM
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Post by: phistyle on May 27, 2007, 12:58:00 AM
Post by: D3vi@nt on May 27, 2007, 08:18:00 AM
Post by: dfmos on June 01, 2007, 12:13:00 PM
He's probable just bringing his skin up to date with all the latest changes in xbmc - which takes time...
Post by: Rotfloljfk on June 04, 2007, 12:52:00 PM
Post by: SyphOnm on June 04, 2007, 03:57:00 PM
QUOTE(Rotfloljfk @ Jun 4 2007, 09:28 PM)
SyphOnm, where did you get the sound for concept's "Notify.wav?"
Clearity?
Post by: stanley87 on June 05, 2007, 05:47:00 PM
QUOTE(Jezz_X @ Apr 19 2007, 10:41 AM)
Most likely because clearity uses Button-List.png
and most scripts look for list-focus.png because its what PM3 uses
This is the scripters issue, they have not made a self-sufficient DEFAULT skin for
there skin, you shouldn't go out of your way to fix this.
But, just having a copy of Button-List.png renamed to list-focus.png would work.
Post by: Rotfloljfk on June 05, 2007, 07:55:00 PM
QUOTE(SyphOnm @ Jun 4 2007, 06:33 PM)
Clearity?
I need to find out where he got it then.
Post by: SyphOnm on June 08, 2007, 02:00:00 PM
) release has the vista beta theme.http://members.home....pt_8-5-2007.rar
Post by: SyphOnm on June 13, 2007, 02:17:00 AM
I realy need time, because i already started redoing the entire skin.
Maybe dfmos has some time to help?
Post by: D3vi@nt on June 13, 2007, 06:11:00 AM
Post by: SC10-E on June 13, 2007, 06:39:00 AM
Post by: dfmos on June 13, 2007, 01:47:00 PM
QUOTE
Maybe dfmos has some time to help?
Yea I shud have a bit of free time now, since I have just finish the x-cite update - about 5 mins ago
Post by: mbay on June 14, 2007, 12:01:00 AM
Post by: D3vi@nt on June 14, 2007, 06:37:00 PM
Post by: SyphOnm on June 20, 2007, 12:12:00 PM
Download
NOTE: This is version is completly redone. So not just a theme for old concept, because some of the xml needed changing.
Post by: nuka1195 on June 20, 2007, 12:54:00 PM
On the Home window, can you animate the reflections also?
Is now playing working? I played a song and nothing showed anywhere in the skin.
Nice skin overall.
Post by: NoZart on June 20, 2007, 02:14:00 PM
Post by: nuka1195 on June 20, 2007, 03:51:00 PM
Post by: Jezz_X on June 20, 2007, 07:05:00 PM
QUOTE(nuka1195 @ Jun 21 2007, 08:27 AM)
I'm no skinner, but can you use a grouplist of buttons and/or image controls, instead of a button scroller?
grouplists can't have a focused position so it would move bak and forth instead of staying in the center
It looks nice but no way I could use this on my CRT tv it would just cause too much screen burn
Post by: SyphOnm on June 22, 2007, 08:42:00 AM
Also made a dark theme for ppl like jazz_x
, who are scared of screen burn Download ConceptV2
Download Dark theme
Post by: D3vi@nt on June 22, 2007, 11:15:00 PM
Post by: phistyle on June 24, 2007, 12:26:00 PM
Post by: D3vi@nt on June 26, 2007, 02:59:00 PM
Post by: D3vi@nt on June 26, 2007, 03:59:00 PM
Post by: tenaciousd on July 04, 2007, 09:36:00 AM
Must admit, the screens I have seen look impressive,
Ive gone for the V2 and Dark Theme, and the textures and that Im not messing around with until Ive had a good look at whats on offer.
Post by: NoZart on July 05, 2007, 05:42:00 AM
Concept wont let me add multiple sources per Folder (which i need, because i have two servers plus local)
so i switch to xbmc360, and add the sources, an then go back to concept.
what i get is: in concept, only the contents of the source visible in the "edit source" - dialog are actually shown. the content of any additional source is invisible. sometimes i also get dupe entries, but i still need to reproduce how those show up...
Post by: Juiced2k on May 20, 2008, 12:48:00 AM
Post by: Jezz_X on May 23, 2008, 02:32:00 PM
QUOTE(daytona @ May 24 2008, 04:31 AM)
Why is the DL link removed? Can someone upload?
because it was poste over a year ago on a site thats temp ? maybe
Post by: FourTwentySmiles on May 23, 2008, 03:03:00 PM
Damn....just missed 420......not Smiling, now.
The edit time isn't 5:40 something.....its 4:23 here......lol.