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Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: Xbox-Scene on April 03, 2011, 08:45:00 AM
Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Posted by XanTium | April 3 10:45 EST | News Category: Xbox360
 
Logic-Sunrire brings us the news that a group of developers are porting codec libraries to homebrew Xbox360s (JTAG and DevKit).
At this moment, only mpeg1 work. The ffplay, ffmpeg and libxvidcore libs have been ported, but they still have to solve some issues with SDL.
When everything is finished and working, you will be able to find their project on a git or google code so you can freely use it. This will allow developers to integrate these libs into their own 360 homebrew projects (FSD for example) or use it to develop a video player for example.

Here's a proof-of-concept of what they did so far:

The proof-of-concept binary has also been released. To test it, put a mpeg1 video named "test.mpg" is the same directory as the default.xex.

Official Site: n/a
Download: n/a (built with XDK)
News-Source: logic-sunrise.com



Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: DARKFiB3R on April 03, 2011, 09:50:00 AM
halle fucking lujah (IMG:http://images.wikia.com/swfanon/images/c/c7/Wub.gif)
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: boflc on April 03, 2011, 10:10:00 AM
my name is sheen.  charlie sheen.
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: jowadmax on April 03, 2011, 10:15:00 AM
very very great news. hope this project see the light and we'll have a next gen media center.  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: syntaxerror329 on April 03, 2011, 10:25:00 AM
Very exciting news! Lets hope .mkv support is not far off on our 360's.

Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: dragoscojan on April 03, 2011, 10:44:00 AM
awesome news to hear ! imo,this is one of the most important features a homebrew enabled 360 lacks.
my old original xbox was a true media center,however playing avi's on a large HDTV looks like crap.
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: hfmls on April 03, 2011, 10:52:00 AM
O M F G.
thank you!
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: dreday78 on April 03, 2011, 11:03:00 AM
I thank Tom Cruze and his almighty witchcraft for this excellent news and making this happen.
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: Tatsh on April 03, 2011, 11:29:00 AM
Awesome. Video would've seemed pointless if he didn't show the X Dashboard on top of the video while it was playing. I can't wait to play some MKVs, no conversion! Hopefully this can be combined with Samba or compatible with UPnP servers like uShare.

On another note, why are the French so interested in furthering 360 JTAG development? I would think that France would have people working on PS3 and JTAG would be like everywhere else (nearly completely forgotten other than the fact that we can get DLC and XBLA 'for free' and emulators that were written over a year ago).
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: fatvince on April 03, 2011, 11:35:00 AM
Is there any chance another exploit will be found so I can homebrew my Kinekt dash 360? I really wanted to wait for JTAG but I'd just bought my console and wanted to play it so I was forced to update.  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: radoman on April 03, 2011, 11:50:00 AM
Jtag owners rejoice!

Finally some positive news regarding media playback.

oh snap! theres a nes emulator too.
http://xbox-360.logi...soles-jtag.html
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: andy.macht on April 03, 2011, 12:36:00 PM
thats really nice.
im waiting for years to read this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
hopefully they add mkv

This post has been edited by andy.macht: Apr 3 2011, 07:39 PM
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: Aldanga on April 03, 2011, 01:59:00 PM
QUOTE(hfmls @ Apr 3 2011, 10:52 AM) View Post
O M F G.
thank you!

I was wondering if you were going to post in here. laugh.gif

I'm glad someone's doing it. It was bound to happen eventually.
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: Grim187 on April 03, 2011, 04:00:00 PM
i had almost given up hope.

how inspiring.

Thanks!
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: MoonTar on April 03, 2011, 04:27:00 PM
If this helps create a media center, I will finally get a jtag 360.

This post has been edited by MoonTar: Apr 3 2011, 11:27 PM
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: bengrimsy on April 03, 2011, 06:01:00 PM
Cool, now maybe one day people can finally stop complaining about the lack of a homebrew media player smile.gif Personally, I would never risk the wear and tear on a 360 to use it as a media center, but I'm sure many will find this useful.
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: syntaxerror329 on April 03, 2011, 06:43:00 PM
QUOTE(bengrimsy @ Apr 3 2011, 08:01 PM) View Post

Personally, I would never risk the wear and tear on a 360 to use it as a media center, but I'm sure many will find this useful.


It's pretty sad that the 360 fails so often that people have to decide what uses are most worthwhile for it and then fell the need to savor every moment of it.   blink.gif





Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: Tag234 on April 03, 2011, 08:19:00 PM
this is great!!! Finally something new for JTAGs... I had also almost lost hope. This deserves donations
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: rikcrx on April 04, 2011, 02:07:00 AM
YES!  biggrin.gif

I'm not fussed on another dashboard like XBMC this time round I'm happy for this to be integrated into Freestyle, although some of the skins people come up with can be cool
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: hfmls on April 04, 2011, 06:10:00 AM
really? ... coding a mediaplayer for xbox360 is a bad idea?

dude...please stfu.
since when coding something homebrew for xbox is a bad idea? ...specially a top request like a mediaplayer?
i respect all opinions and thoughts... but your post is just dumb dude.

stress xbox360?
check HW specs....xbox can handle any video with full hw aceleration.
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: Obveron on April 04, 2011, 07:10:00 AM
Thank you so much to the devs working on this!  Where can we donate?

  biggrin.gif pop.gif  biggrin.gif  pop.gif  biggrin.gif



EDIT: Apparently the Devs don't want donations.  Instead they ask you give to the Red Cross relief effort in Japan.

http://www.jrc.or.jp...4_00002070.html
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: Hoescout on April 04, 2011, 10:51:00 AM
This comes too late unfortunately. Nowadays ION nettops and Dunes and Popcornhours are best for watching hd content.

Theyre quiter, use less power (under 20 Watts) and have better codec support and better functionality than a jtagged 360 with a xbmc could ever come up with.
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: Obveron on April 04, 2011, 11:17:00 AM
We're all aware of the available HD players out there.. That doesn't make this idea pointless.
I already have a HTPC and a WDTV live player, but I'm still stoked to hear there is codec progress on jtags.
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: johnyblackout on April 04, 2011, 11:39:00 AM
sweeeeet. Can't wait. If you could hook an eternal hdd up to the original xbox I wouldn't care as much. But this is definitely needed.
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: thezet on April 04, 2011, 12:04:00 PM
QUOTE(DuggyUK @ Apr 4 2011, 07:08 AM) View Post

What a REALLY bad idea... 360's are flakey enough h/w wise. why port a media player that might heat up the 360 (decoding) video when a cheap 1080p player is peanuts?.. Personally I dont want to stress my JTAG any more than I have to (i.e. just play games); and use my silent playon to play media files. I can replace the media player easily, how easy would it be to replace a JTAGd 360?.. decoding a 1080p mkv is no easy feat unless using a GPU to offload the work..

JTAGd 360s are irreplaceable..at worst, and costly at best.


I don't think you get the idea here. Of course there are tons of affordable media players out there, but this is a different issue. No one ever said a word about replacing your old one, or even competing with this sector of the entertainment industry. This development is just something that a lot of people have been waiting for. Since the sheer success of XBMC on the first xbox people have been waiting to be wooed by a media player when the 360 was first compromised and open for homebrew. We want a media player because it would give the xbox 360 the needed functionality it is lacking at the moment.
And to comment on your fear of breaking your xbox: If you would have done your homework, you would not even dare to compare mkv 1080 playback with the complexity of a modern game. Given the specs of this machine, playing 1080 mkv would not even make the 360 sweat.

My suggestion: Just think for a second before posting some nonsense about what constitutes great news for the majority of 360 JTAGGERs.

The Zet
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: syntaxerror329 on April 04, 2011, 12:28:00 PM
QUOTE(johnyblackout @ Apr 4 2011, 01:39 PM) View Post

sweeeeet. Can't wait. If you could hook an eternal hdd up to the original xbox I wouldn't care as much. But this is definitely needed.


You can hook a external drive up to original Xbox running XBMC. You need to convert one of the game ports to USB.



Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: danthaman673 on April 04, 2011, 12:46:00 PM
QUOTE(DuggyUK @ Apr 4 2011, 09:38 PM) View Post

What a REALLY bad idea... 360's are flakey enough h/w wise. why port a media player that might heat up the 360 (decoding) video when a cheap 1080p player is peanuts?.. Personally I dont want to stress my JTAG any more than I have to (i.e. just play games); and use my silent playon to play media files. I can replace the media player easily, how easy would it be to replace a JTAGd 360?.. decoding a 1080p mkv is no easy feat unless using a GPU to offload the work..

JTAGd 360s are irreplaceable..at worst, and costly at best.


Using a 360 to render media will not stress it, 360's are made for this (most of the libraries are locked in M$ signed code - note they allow .avi files wit a MP 'optional' update) I would contend that using a JTAG for a media player to play all the other codecs is a brilliant idea (Me and others were expecting to see it in FSD2 RC1) As for 360's being flakey  have to disagree (early Xenon and Falcon RROD stuff aside) I think the 360 is a rock-solid platform (when set-up properly, and looked after) as HW-wise all the bugs have been ironed-out (Actually TBH, I still don't know why ppl are doing AUD-clamps and transistor JTAG wiring as we have yet to have a problem with any of ours using our diode-based method that can't be put down to bad smc or incorrect diodes etc..)
 I agree JTAG's (as it stands - and we all hope that changes) are irreplaceable, but I don't reckon that decoding a 1080p mkv will stress it anywhere near what some of the top-end FPS do. This is interesting however, so I've asked the guy doing our temp-plugin testing to add it in to our tests (at this stage we may have to approximate it)  BTW sorry we haven't released the plugin yet but our guy doing the testing/benchmarking has been sick in amongst being snowed-in with work(in various forms) But, it should be public soon enough (I hope :-)





Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: gehx on April 04, 2011, 04:57:00 PM
QUOTE(DuggyUK @ Apr 4 2011, 08:08 AM) View Post

What a REALLY bad idea... 360's are flakey enough h/w wise. why port a media player that might heat up the 360 (decoding) video when a cheap 1080p player is peanuts?.. Personally I dont want to stress my JTAG any more than I have to (i.e. just play games); and use my silent playon to play media files. I can replace the media player easily, how easy would it be to replace a JTAGd 360?.. decoding a 1080p mkv is no easy feat unless using a GPU to offload the work..

JTAGd 360s are irreplaceable..at worst, and costly at best.


ok, you do that....me on the other hand, the reason I have a jtag is to USE it...it will die one day, that's a guarantee, just like everything will die...what good is a device if it's not going to be used??
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: m00nstone on April 05, 2011, 07:01:00 AM
People.. If you keep an extra sata drive and fan kit on hand, your xbox360 will likely outlive you. and we all know what to do about red ring...
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: Obveron on April 05, 2011, 08:31:00 AM
QUOTE(gehx @ Apr 4 2011, 11:57 PM) View Post
just like everything will die

My snes will never die! biggrin.gif
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: RolF2 on April 05, 2011, 09:18:00 AM
Strange . Why new codec libraries and not something like this : https://www.lonelyco...e_overview.html .  unsure.gif
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: Aldanga on April 05, 2011, 09:21:00 AM
Because you need codecs first before a media player works. Also, porting entire codecs allows different devs to use the codecs in their own projects.
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: MinerWilly on April 06, 2011, 02:04:00 PM
Great news! I wanted two things out of my JTAGs, Ping limit removed amd a decent mediaplayer. Seems both my wishes is to be fulfilled!

Mediaplayers are cheap but aren't they usually bad too? Real picky about which format subtitles are in, no options for multiple audiotracks, no support for DTS and/or Dolby Digital, no network support and so on. If they are updateable then the developer just don't care to release any updates...

I dare to say that NOTHING comes close to XBMC on the original xbox, only that the xbox1 won't play HD. Sure, there is a long way from this to something like XBMC but if it gets merged with, say, Freestyle Dash then we can look forward to regular updates!
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: modslave on April 06, 2011, 04:01:00 PM
Yes you can get a mini hd capable pc that is quieter and uses less electricity but can it play xbox/360 and emulators!?  Plus isn't this an xbox modding forum.
True my JTAG had to be a Jasper cos its the only version that hasn't RROD'd on me.
Surely and development can only be fantastic news!
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: DuggyUK on April 06, 2011, 06:50:00 PM
QUOTE(MinerWilly @ Apr 6 2011, 09:04 PM) View Post

Great news! I wanted two things out of my JTAGs, Ping limit removed amd a decent mediaplayer. Seems both my wishes is to be fulfilled!

Mediaplayers are cheap but aren't they usually bad too? Real picky about which format subtitles are in, no options for multiple audiotracks, no support for DTS and/or Dolby Digital, no network support and so on. If they are updateable then the developer just don't care to release any updates...

I dare to say that NOTHING comes close to XBMC on the original xbox, only that the xbox1 won't play HD. Sure, there is a long way from this to something like XBMC but if it gets merged with, say, Freestyle Dash then we can look forward to regular updates!


bad?, leagues ahead of the 360.. example playon mini does DTS HD and DD, has built-in gigabit (!!!) port, updatable with lots of firmware updates, cross flash-able too.

XBMC does pwn them all though, it out classes pretty much every media player out there. xbmc live on a revo is simply stunning for example.
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: MinerWilly on April 07, 2011, 06:46:00 AM
QUOTE(DuggyUK @ Apr 7 2011, 01:50 AM) View Post

bad?, leagues ahead of the 360..


Exactly!!! The stock mediaplayer of the 360 isn't even worth the name.

QUOTE(DuggyUK @ Apr 7 2011, 01:50 AM) View Post

XBMC does pwn them all though, it out classes pretty much every media player out there. xbmc live on a revo is simply stunning for example.


And who knows, if this project is continued maybe one day we'll have a mediaplayer on the 360 to match xbmc. If the very competent people behind Freestyle Dash picks up on this anything could happen!
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: modslave on April 08, 2011, 06:13:00 PM
Sorry bout the curve ball but we were comparing media players so thought I'd mention the PS3-(bad word round here?) Showtime media player can now do 1080p content, a smooth mkv player!
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: razkar on April 10, 2011, 03:25:00 PM
A little update =)
LINK
Title: Developers Working on Codec Libraries for Homebrew 360s
Post by: syntaxerror329 on April 10, 2011, 03:45:00 PM
QUOTE(razkar @ Apr 10 2011, 05:25 PM) View Post

A little update =)
LINK


Sweet!!! So excited.

I love the Q&A

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