Post by: Xbox-Scene on July 05, 2010, 01:43:00 PM
FreeStyleDash v2.0 7/5/2010 Progress Info Posted by XanTium | July 5 15:43 EST | News Category: Xbox360 |
| Helldoc reports about the progress made to the upcoming FreeStyleDash v2.0 on his blog by taking a look at the (internal) 7/5/2010 SVN build: Quote
Official Site: helldoc.blogspot.com |
Post by: crisdo98 on July 05, 2010, 01:48:00 PM
Post by: Odb718 on July 05, 2010, 01:51:00 PM
very cool features being added.
Post by: red_ring_of_box on July 05, 2010, 02:04:00 PM
Post by: Odb718 on July 05, 2010, 02:06:00 PM
Post by: jeffrey92 on July 05, 2010, 02:15:00 PM
the way I see it... all we need after this is a media player and working n64 emulator and we're set!! of course.. that could be a few months
Post by: Poopchute on July 05, 2010, 02:22:00 PM
Post by: xxANTMANxx on July 05, 2010, 02:27:00 PM
QUOTE(red_ring_of_box @ Jul 5 2010, 10:04 PM) 
I hope that auto update feature can be disabled? I normally like to see what other people's experience is with new versions of software before I install it.
Yeah, don't worry the notification just tells you that there is a new version available. We made it so you can disable that or just have it notify you of a release build instead of a alpha or beta release.
Post by: modslave on July 05, 2010, 02:32:00 PM
Post by: Inuyasha152 on July 05, 2010, 02:40:00 PM
Post by: hfmls on July 05, 2010, 02:47:00 PM
one question to the pro's!!
seems that currently mkv is a no go, in future maybe
but what about including .srt (subtitles) support so we can watch our .avi (xvid)
would that be possible/easy to do? since it's not a new codec or so.
would be really great.
also is there anyone working in mediaplayer yet?
i wish this alpha release "calls" more pro's interested to freestyle dashboard.
a complete mediaplayer would be so sweet, i would be happy for now with .srt support
since it's your own code maybe u can get this easy?
thank you for the amazing work!
Post by: Sonic-NKT on July 05, 2010, 03:04:00 PM
We will have to wait for a true mplayer/vlc port for new multimedia formats
Post by: hfmls on July 05, 2010, 03:05:00 PM
thank you
Post by: ddxcb on July 05, 2010, 03:32:00 PM
Post by: p4r0l3 on July 05, 2010, 03:41:00 PM
As mentioned above, integrated KAI would be amazing.
Post by: minus5252 on July 05, 2010, 03:55:00 PM
QUOTE(hfmls @ Jul 5 2010, 03:47 PM) 
awsome work guys!! just awsome!!
one question to the pro's!!
seems that currently mkv is a no go, in future maybe
but what about including .srt (subtitles) support so we can watch our .avi (xvid)
would that be possible/easy to do? since it's not a new codec or so.
would be really great.
also is there anyone working in mediaplayer yet?
i wish this alpha release "calls" more pro's interested to freestyle dashboard.
a complete mediaplayer would be so sweet, i would be happy for now with .srt support
since it's your own code maybe u can get this easy?
thank you for the amazing work!
You can use subtitles with AVI if you use TVersity to stream .avi's (and other formats...PlayOn will stream MKVs to the Xbox 360, as will the PS3 media streamer (can't remember its exact name)). Check out TVersity's forums, as I can't remember how to stream the subtitles, but it seems like it was really easy.
Post by: stezo2k on July 05, 2010, 04:16:00 PM
update video, looks pretty damn neat
Post by: EKrboi on July 05, 2010, 05:00:00 PM
Post by: keine on July 05, 2010, 07:04:00 PM
Freestyle...
WHAT!!!!!
Heart Palpitation.....
......Progress Info.
Damn. Hehe, but keep up the awesome work.
Post by: Keksz on July 06, 2010, 12:20:00 AM
Feature request?
Full encrypted external HDD, maybe with a keyfile on a USB pendrive or something.
Maybe against adversary forces, like police :-D
Post by: Inuyasha152 on July 06, 2010, 01:58:00 AM
QUOTE(ddxcb @ Jul 5 2010, 02:32 PM)
intergrate KAI like XBMC and it be beast.
QUOTE(p4r0l3 @ Jul 5 2010, 02:41 PM)
The new auto update video is pretty sweet & convenient. Take your time TeamFSD! I'm happy with 1.20 as it is, but 2.0 will rock!
As mentioned above, integrated KAI would be amazing.
Imagine joining a new game through the guide button...
Post by: kettenschutz on July 06, 2010, 04:16:00 AM
maybe sometimes we dont need a connected PC with running KAI
but ... as you know the release for this ALPHA version takes extremely long
here are only rudimentary features implemented
so, if we could get a version with fully integrated KAI or other stuff it seems to take 24 Years
i think we all have to learn howto code for ourselves, to implement such features alone :-(
Post by: Odb718 on July 06, 2010, 05:00:00 AM
QUOTE(stezo2k @ Jul 5 2010, 05:16 PM)
update video, looks pretty damn neat
I think it's getting closer to Decebuary 38th...
Post by: conners on July 06, 2010, 05:21:00 AM
Post by: kettenschutz on July 06, 2010, 05:46:00 AM
the big quest here is the perfomance .. is the xbox fast enough to run the kai server and a fully HD game ?
dont think that, but the cpu has much perfomance to do something special
well, we'll see ...
Post by: conners on July 06, 2010, 07:52:00 AM
Post by: Inuyasha152 on July 06, 2010, 08:48:00 AM
QUOTE(conners @ Jul 6 2010, 04:21 AM)
Id like to see kai intergrated into the dash, if it happens it happens, but one thing people are forgetting is that the pc is still needed. if you remember with xbmc it was intergrated then and the engine needed to be run on the pc side. they still have support for it at kai. Im not sure but sure the source code for the xbox might still be over at xbmc.
Not if you're running DD-WRT firmware on your router
Post by: Anarchy99 on July 06, 2010, 12:41:00 PM
QUOTE(Inuyasha152 @ Jul 6 2010, 03:48 PM) 
you beat me to it
it was great experiance with xbmc and ddwrt i hope something similar happens with FSD
Post by: conners on July 06, 2010, 04:12:00 PM
Post by: WorldFormula on July 06, 2010, 04:30:00 PM
Post by: [_BRIAN_] on July 06, 2010, 04:41:00 PM
Post by: cornnatron on July 06, 2010, 04:56:00 PM
QUOTE
' date='Jul 7 2010, 12:41 AM' post='4709826']
Before we ask for more features I would like them to release FSD 2.0. Than all the new features could be for FSD 2.5 or 3.0. The biggest differnce between this and xbmc is this is closed source and xbmc was open source. Any time xbmc was thinking about adding new features we could try them out right away.
Before we ask for more features I would like them to release FSD 2.0. Than all the new features could be for FSD 2.5 or 3.0. The biggest differnce between this and xbmc is this is closed source and xbmc was open source. Any time xbmc was thinking about adding new features we could try them out right away.
How you come up with it being closed scource i dont know becouse the dev's allready explained
that the scource is gonna get released again with 2.0 same as all other releases .
they allready explained why as well , its becouse everybody was releaseing compiled rev. updates
with loads off bugs wich could brick consoles and people where screaming it was buggy as hell end
the devs bricked there consoles so they dicided to take the scource offline until they got a stable release.
Read the story on HellDoc's blog i would say.
Post by: xBang360x on July 06, 2010, 05:00:00 PM
FSD Now - Favourites
Right way - Favorites
Might be the french spelling or maybe I am the one that is wrong...
Post by: scopen4 on July 06, 2010, 05:21:00 PM
QUOTE(xBang360x @ Jul 6 2010, 05:00 PM)
Just so you guys know...You have the spelling "Favorites" spelled wrong on the dash..
FSD Now - Favourites
Right way - Favorites
Might be the french spelling or maybe I am the one that is wrong...
Its not wrong, its a another way of spelling it(British English way). Same with colour and color.
Post by: nexxusty on July 06, 2010, 08:36:00 PM
QUOTE(hfmls @ Jul 5 2010, 04:47 PM)
awsome work guys!! just awsome!!
one question to the pro's!!
seems that currently mkv is a no go, in future maybe
but what about including .srt (subtitles) support so we can watch our .avi (xvid)
would that be possible/easy to do? since it's not a new codec or so.
would be really great.
also is there anyone working in mediaplayer yet?
i wish this alpha release "calls" more pro's interested to freestyle dashboard.
a complete mediaplayer would be so sweet, i would be happy for now with .srt support
since it's your own code maybe u can get this easy?
thank you for the amazing work!
Every time there is a request for a video player feature, its you. Stop already. You can't even fathom what it takes to do this so I would seriously stop asking. You have become a pest.
QUOTE(xBang360x @ Jul 6 2010, 07:00 PM)
Just so you guys know...You have the spelling "Favorites" spelled wrong on the dash..
FSD Now - Favourites
Right way - Favorites
Might be the french spelling or maybe I am the one that is wrong...
That is called "Proper English". Being an American you wouldn't know this.
Proper - Favourites
American Butchered English - Favorites
American Butchered English has infiltrated society so much that even Firefox tries to correct me when I type Favourites. Pathetic.
Post by: rami1 on July 07, 2010, 12:43:00 AM
Many people want media player, if We have our xbox on our living room, why do We need another computer or a streamer?
I am C programmer, and I have worked a little on the ps2 sms homebrew media player; I can
tell You that the same way we show cpu utilization on screen in freestyle beta, we can also show subtitles.
Also since h264/avc decoder is already in the updated xbox native media player but is supported only inside mp4 container, we need to add mkv container support, but not decoder support. It is not as easy
as adding subtitles support but IT IS possible. Much easier than porting a media player.
This post has been edited by rami1: Jul 7 2010, 07:56 AM
Post by: brokenseraph on July 07, 2010, 01:07:00 AM
QUOTE(nexxusty @ Jul 7 2010, 03:36 AM)
That is called "Proper English". Being an American you wouldn't know this.
Proper - Favourites
American Butchered English - Favorites
American Butchered English has infiltrated society so much that even Firefox tries to correct me when I type Favourites. Pathetic.
Umm, no. It's called English. It is also likely your spell check is set to English(US) because that is probably the default. Being ignorant, you wouldn't know this.(although, it is also ignorant to think it's spelled wrong)
This does look amazing and it's looking closer to release. I haven't even touched my 360 in a while and might not until FSD 2.0 is out.
Post by: nexxusty on July 07, 2010, 12:20:00 PM
We do here anyways. We have a very firm grasp of the English language. Drop me a line if u need to know anything else. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
QUOTE(rami1 @ Jul 7 2010, 02:43 AM)
@nexxusty
Many people want media player, if We have our xbox on our living room, why do We need another computer or a streamer?
I am C programmer, and I have worked a little on the ps2 sms homebrew media player; I can
tell You that the same way we show cpu utilization on screen in freestyle beta, we can also show subtitles.
Also since h264/avc decoder is already in the updated xbox native media player but is supported only inside mp4 container, we need to add mkv container support, but not decoder support. It is not as easy
as adding subtitles support but IT IS possible. Much easier than porting a media player.
Well that is good news at least. And dude, I know many people want a Media Player. Who doesn't. The applications are awesome, especially with x.264. But this punk asks for too much, and I got sick of it. That is all. You will never hear me begging for software or features within those pieces of software.
Why? Because I have respect. Plain and simple, I take what this guy (htfmls) is doing as disrespect. Anyone who doesn't needs to open their eyes up.
This post has been edited by nexxusty: Jul 7 2010, 07:29 PM
Post by: hfmls on July 07, 2010, 01:00:00 PM
QUOTE(nexxusty @ Jul 7 2010, 03:36 AM)
Every time there is a request for a video player feature, its you. Stop already. You can't even fathom what it takes to do this so I would seriously stop asking. You have become a pest.
That is called "Proper English". Being an American you wouldn't know this.
Proper - Favourites
American Butchered English - Favorites
American Butchered English has infiltrated society so much that even Firefox tries to correct me when I type Favourites. Pathetic.
so? that's means i can't request?
what makes you the dictator?
i'm not insulting or spamming or flamming anyone, and i'm respecting forum's rules.
so i CAN and WILL request whatever i want.
BTW freestyle coders, youtube would be sweet
QUOTE(rami1 @ Jul 7 2010, 07:43 AM)
@nexxusty
Many people want media player, if We have our xbox on our living room, why do We need another computer or a streamer?
I am C programmer, and I have worked a little on the ps2 sms homebrew media player; I can
tell You that the same way we show cpu utilization on screen in freestyle beta, we can also show subtitles.
Also since h264/avc decoder is already in the updated xbox native media player but is supported only inside mp4 container, we need to add mkv container support, but not decoder support. It is not as easy
as adding subtitles support but IT IS possible. Much easier than porting a media player.
THANK YOU so much for what you said. I thought so that .srt support would be kinda easy, i'm not asking new codecs or containers, only an option to "paste" subtitles in front of video. Since it never leaves freestyle dashboard, dashboard could do that easyly, by those who KNOW how to right?
thank you very much again.
freestyle dashboard coders you are the best, without you my xbox360 would suck
Post by: Aldanga on July 07, 2010, 10:15:00 PM
I have no problem with people asking others for features or programs, but if it becomes incessant it's a turnoff and no one will want to help you. People do this for free on their own time. Having kids whine about how they just want to [insert here] is a huge turnoff and demotivator.
Keep it short, sweet and to the point, and don't whine when your dreams don't appear within two days. This stuff takes time.
Post by: thesonandheir on July 07, 2010, 11:46:00 PM
QUOTE(xBang360x @ Jul 7 2010, 12:00 AM)
Just so you guys know...You have the spelling "Favorites" spelled wrong on the dash..
FSD Now - Favourites
Right way - Favorites
Might be the french spelling or maybe I am the one that is wrong...
LOL at this birdbrain Yank
Post by: antisniperspy on July 08, 2010, 08:53:00 AM
QUOTE
@894 [894] 59 seconds MaesterRowen
BDROM support added- compatible with stock dvdrom
PS3 Emulation support started
C# Based Version File Generator (thanks wondro)
Post by: opticd on July 08, 2010, 08:57:00 AM
Post by: red_ring_of_box on July 08, 2010, 09:41:00 AM
QUOTE(opticd @ Jul 8 2010, 10:57 AM)
It's legit... BD5/BD9 ... Wiki it.
Just did, that makes more sense now, BD5 and BD9 are pretty much just 9-4.5 GB dvds that can hold high definition BluRay content.
Post by: antisniperspy on July 08, 2010, 09:47:00 AM
QUOTE(opticd @ Jul 8 2010, 10:57 AM)
It's legit... BD5/BD9 ... Wiki it.
Yeah I know I just laughed when I read it, thats all.
Post by: red_ring_of_box on July 08, 2010, 09:57:00 AM
Post by: minus5252 on July 08, 2010, 10:41:00 AM
Post by: antisniperspy on July 08, 2010, 10:48:00 AM
QUOTE(minus5252 @ Jul 8 2010, 12:41 PM)
Where are you all seeing this new information posted by MaesterRowan?
Team FSD Link
Post by: minus5252 on July 08, 2010, 10:52:00 AM
QUOTE(antisniperspy @ Jul 8 2010, 11:48 AM)
Thanks!
Post by: omegastar on July 08, 2010, 05:00:00 PM
QUOTE(hfmls @ Jul 8 2010, 01:22 PM)
are u serious?
please explain this to me, PS3 emulation means we could play blueray games in xbox360?
that's not it right?
I think its a joke because the 360 could never emulate a PS3 game and the dvdrom could never read a BDrom disk it doesnt have a bluray laser. Unless this has some other meaning it may just be them playing a prank on stupid people.
Post by: WorldFormula on July 08, 2010, 09:31:00 PM
The other thing is that no shit, an EMULATOR doesn't take game discs, it takes files. Of course the 360 can't play blu-ray.
Post by: red_ring_of_box on July 08, 2010, 09:57:00 PM
Post by: WorldFormula on July 08, 2010, 10:07:00 PM
Post by: GTRagnarok on July 08, 2010, 10:56:00 PM
Post by: minus5252 on July 08, 2010, 11:05:00 PM
QUOTE(GTRagnarok @ Jul 8 2010, 11:56 PM)
I can't believe some of you are actually even thinking of the possibility of the Xbox 360 emulating the PS3. A better discussion would concern the PS2, but I highly doubt that's possible either.
Out of curiosity (I know nothing of the specs or anything), but why do you think PS2 emulation would not be possible? I would just think that it is just years out, in a playable (or even semi-playable) state. That being said, I have no idea how powerful the PS2 processors are. Perhaps it is simply that you're saying it just isn't possible for the 360s processors to emulate the processing power of the PS2.
Anyway, just curious if you or anyone can shed some light on this.
(By the way, in case I wasn't clear, I only mean PS2 emulation, I'm not talking about through FSD)
Post by: kettenschutz on July 09, 2010, 12:08:00 AM
Example for skinning the NXE Skin :
Example for skinning the Buttons
Post by: confusedman09 on July 09, 2010, 10:54:00 AM
Alpha's getting closer...
Post by: minus5252 on July 09, 2010, 11:15:00 AM
QUOTE(confusedman09 @ Jul 9 2010, 11:54 AM)
WOW...looks like checking Xbox-scene every hour or so, a habit I've made for a month or two in anticipation) may be about over). I hate to jump the gun, but from what I see, they could release the Alpha now! (not that I'd complain if they didn't, I've been patient for a long time, and I can still wait). I'm just saying it looks GREAT! Good work TeamFSD.
Post by: red_ring_of_box on July 09, 2010, 12:06:00 PM
Post by: antisniperspy on July 09, 2010, 01:12:00 PM
Post by: Aldanga on July 10, 2010, 06:42:00 AM
When I started reading your reply I thought it was going to be the normal whiny complaining that we hear all the time. However, your reasoning is sound. I actually made the comment to my brother that this is becoming vaporware; and it really is getting ridiculous.
Still, I won't crucify the devs like some people do. I think the biggest issue they have is not having a manager who knows when to say, "We need to release this already," and get things pushed out the door. The biggest problem (and blessing) coders have is that they're incredibly anal: they're always fixing things and never fully satisfied. That's great as long as you have limits, but it can kill a project very quickly if you're not careful.
I know the software will be awesome when released. Heck, I about jizzed myself when I saw the videos. But they're walking a fine line between ensuring a quality product and pursuing perfection. It's kind of reminiscent of Valve's antics, but we all know how great their products are. If this team turns into another Valve, it'll be tough to wait, but I won't be disappointed.
Before people tell me to code if I don't like how things are going: I'm working on getting to the point where I could actually be a help more than a hindrance to a project. Once I really feel comfortable working on stuff on my own, you can be sure I'll dive into a project or projects and start giving back.
Post by: MaesterRowen on July 10, 2010, 08:27:00 AM
If we released 3 weeks ago, people would complain nothing works.
We can't win, so we release when we feel we're happy with it and when we feel it is an alpha version....
Post by: tiderium on July 10, 2010, 09:07:00 AM
"We can't win, so we release when we feel we're happy with it and when we feel it is an alpha version...." sounds almost like polyphony digital
(joking of course u would never delay that long)There really is nothing anybody can say to that as it is your project (and I for one do not have the coding skills or the time to write something like FSD2) however would it not be better to have a team of people testing it out in the wild looking for bugs or issues to help and to help you and helldoc and all the other people in the team?
this is probaly going to sound whiny but when will you feel happy with it as from the docs you are only making tiny adjustments.
Please dont be offended by this I am a fan of FSD I would just like to see a release of FSD2 wo we can help with the devolpment by reporting any issues we may find.
to me the xbox community is very much like the amiga community back in the day there are helpful people out there who will take the time to report back bugs or issues and maybe even suggest a fix for them.
Post by: kettenschutz on July 10, 2010, 09:26:00 AM
but :
what will you do if your xbox just hangs up with 4 red lights of death after the first startup ?
Or what will you and your whole "amiga crew" do when you try to set an static preference via the FSD20 dashboard, and your xbox hungs up?
ah, and at least, what if your xbox wont power on again?
so, its damaged .. so, you maybe dont know how to reflash your XBR/freeboot image cause you bought your jtagged xbox in a shop ?
THIS, i think, is the trick which lets teamfsd wait for releasing.
there are a lot of different boxes, with different ppls
in some way, at some xbox, with some ppl could come a bug with bad features ...
let THEM check the sourcecode, and just wait.
grab your amiga back if it is to boring to wait .. monkey island is waiting
(loved this!)
Post by: kettenschutz on July 10, 2010, 11:31:00 AM
these games are really big milestones
but ... okai ...
i really can understood what you feel about the actual situation regarding fsd20
i hate it too, that there comes tons of screenshots and videos, but absolutely NOTHING about a release date
only blah, flaming, hating, gaggaggagagagag, the stuff that comes every time from those mama-kids
(the flaming ones, not TeamFSD!)
but we arent allowed to claim about this situation
FSD is FREE, FSD looks great, FSD IS(!) the Future of the xbox360 Homebrew scene
i know that, you know that, TeamFSD knows that.
so they cant release any shit ...
Last but not least : HellDoc, Maester, please stop creating tons of nice vids without further release infos
that makes the comm hot and dirty ....
just make vids of really new stuff, and do your blogstuff (which is really cool)
Post by: Aldanga on July 10, 2010, 12:07:00 PM
QUOTE(MaesterRowen @ Jul 10 2010, 09:27 AM)
Here's the thing-
If we released 3 weeks ago, people would complain nothing works.
We can't win, so we release when we feel we're happy with it and when we feel it is an alpha version....
Very true. It's a double-edged sword. I understand that this release is a major overhaul of the code and requires a lot of work because of that. I think the biggest cause of unhappiness is that people feel they've been teased. Videos and screenshots and talk of releasing in the near future. If release hadn't been referenced, I don't think there'd be as much outcry.
The talk here seems to be between people who've had a lot of experience with this sort of thing. My comments haven't been to be critical for its own sake, but to suggest that methods of release and communication with the community might need to be revised. Am I stepping into territory where I probably shouldn't be? Yeah, it's possible.
If you have an alpha release and state all of the things which are broken and say in the release notes that it's not close to being stable, people have no right to complain. An alpha isn't meant for stability, but for testing and implementation. People shouldn't expect more than that. If they do, they're idiots and should learn not to open their mouths.
In the end, I say thanks to the team. I'm really excited about this and extremely grateful for all of the work you guys have put into this. I can't imagine all that you've done, but I've seen some of the logs and it's extremely detailed. I can see all the bugs you're addressing and I'm thankful for it. Keep up the good work, fellas.
Post by: WorldFormula on July 10, 2010, 12:12:00 PM
QUOTE(MaesterRowen @ Jul 10 2010, 10:27 AM)
Here's the thing-
If we released 3 weeks ago, people would complain nothing works.
We can't win, so we release when we feel we're happy with it and when we feel it is an alpha version....
I don't even care, take as long as you like. What you've done already is beyond ridiculous, and for free? I'm not the only one who is impressed. Keep up the good work guys!
Post by: omegastar on July 10, 2010, 02:23:00 PM
Post by: tiderium on July 11, 2010, 04:58:00 AM
Its not loading up anymore.
Post by: hfmls on July 11, 2010, 04:59:00 AM
even old tracking svn
Post by: tiderium on July 11, 2010, 05:07:00 AM
Post by: Drefsab on July 11, 2010, 10:10:00 AM
Post by: Ssseth on July 11, 2010, 12:37:00 PM
http://www.xblog-360...videospictures/
Post by: tiderium on July 11, 2010, 01:56:00 PM
Post by: kanknast on July 11, 2010, 04:03:00 PM
QUOTE(tiderium @ Jul 11 2010, 03:56 PM)
I accept I'm going to get flamed for this and accept it...
me @ you: flame flame flame! (in the words of insult, the comic dog) i kid, i kid!
i see both sides to this argument. i check this thread daily for a whiff of new FSD action, only to be met with disappointment. same time, i know the longer we let team FSD polish their code, the more like Christmas morning it will be when it's finally released. in the end, however, i consistently conclude that it's their project, and so we should try our best not to drive them insane.
peace and love all 'round. i'm grateful for this site and for all of the prodigies out there that allow me to make more of my Xbox3(RLOD)60.
Post by: tiderium on July 11, 2010, 04:10:00 PM
anyways I seriously believe that FSD2 is going to be the best dashboard replacement ever and I am also including evo-x from the xbox 1.
I'm just an impatient sod and want to play with a fantastic new dashboard.
sorry about the nagging guys.
Post by: kettenschutz on July 12, 2010, 02:10:00 AM
if you take a look at the whole thread here, you will see what real FLAMING is.
only crying, whining and blahblah
i thought this thread, and this whole forum is for technical questions and news.
but of all this fourhundredmillionandsixtyfive posts, there are only ten or eleven with really relevant infos and questions
keep the ball down, nobody got a advantage of these flaming sh*t
Just let us wait for FSD20, and hope that these function will be implemented properly
If there are some cool infos or real facts, just let us know
but please stop these "YEAR FSD WILL BE RELEASED NEXT MONDAY" shit, if you dont got a real source
greetz
Post by: Mattie on July 12, 2010, 05:25:00 AM
QUOTE(tiderium @ Jul 11 2010, 08:56 PM)
Wasn't working earlier working now though
just read through the blog "Changed the way the music starts ( Mattie is never happy )"
once again extra stuff added that is erroneous to the function of the dashboard.
Do we really need a credits screen?
"adjusted credits quality to reduce file size.
pumped up the volume a bit for credits."
we dont need music in a credits screen
sorry guys your just adding stuff for adding stuff's sake now.
I feel we do need a credits screen. we've put a lot of time and effort in this, and spending a day
on 1 little screen with our names, a little tune, and the people who helped us is something i feel
we're intitled to. if that'll delay the release by a day, so be it.
QUOTE(tiderium @ Jul 11 2010, 08:56 PM)
simple question does FSD2 work as is? IE does it allow you to launch games, copy, delete, move, ftp and all the stuff we need it to.
Or are you going to keep adding stuff into it.
Who is actually in charge of the project? who can actually say to the team right enough is enough lets get it out there.
Or is it going to become a Chinese Democracy (obviously better than the album but you know what I mean) Axl was never happy till the record label finally pushed him to release it.
C'mon guys do the proper thing and release it already.
I accept I'm going to get flamed for this and accept it but you know what I want to see this great software released not hijacked and all your good ideas nicked by other dashboard devs.
simple answer: no it doesnt all work as should yet.
nobody is 'in charge', we all have the same goal, and that is releasing something we feel is worth releasing as soon as we can.
And as far as the ideas go, they are free to be used by anyone, its called the xbox 'community', and
as long as nobody steals code or anything, we can all benefit from eachother.
This is in no way intended as a flame or anything, just be patient and I hope we can match up to your expectations.
Post by: tiderium on July 12, 2010, 10:50:00 AM
I did try to edit out the bit about a credit screen but my connection timed out.
if I have tread on anyones toes I am sorry
I am just really looking forward to your work seeing the light of day.
and an impatient sod to boot.
also thanx for the patience with an impatient scottish git.
also just out of curiousity what were you not happy about the music with (almost imdb trivia section now)
me now goes out and takes a chill pill to relax and wait
Post by: budtoka420 on July 12, 2010, 11:39:00 AM
Post by: Drefsab on July 12, 2010, 12:47:00 PM
One thing to consider, if you worked really hard one something like this, put loads of time and effort into it would you want to rush it out when you feel it's its not ready or would you make sure when you put out your work its quality shows the effort that went in. I bet none of us want to see this released more than the guys who are working on it do. They are working on it to get it out there, do you think game developers want to sit on their game for ever? no they want people playing and loving it.
At the end of the day there's nothing much you cant do with your xbox now with the existing software that this brings, you can use FSD 1.2 or xexmenu, go play some games and forget about the dash and chill out. When the new FSD is up to scratch it will be out and with the integrity the current developers have shown it will be much win
Post by: kettenschutz on July 12, 2010, 01:30:00 PM
nothing more to say here
Post by: red_ring_of_box on July 12, 2010, 03:59:00 PM
I've waited just as long as all you have for this and I can wait as long as it takes, after all whining about it not be released wont have it out any sooner.
Though talking about how awesome its gonna be is always a great way to pass the time.
Post by: minus5252 on July 12, 2010, 04:40:00 PM
QUOTE(red_ring_of_box @ Jul 12 2010, 04:59 PM)
I agree lol, that pretty much sums it all up,
I've waited just as long as all you have for this and I can wait as long as it takes, after all whining about it not be released wont have it out any sooner.
Though talking about how awesome its gonna be is always a great way to pass the time.
Agreed, and this is alos a good time to be brainstorming on possible future features...not that I have any ideas really, but I was wondering something. I saw that this has an RSS reader, but I read somewhere else that it was possible to use RSS feeds to stream audio from internet radio to the PSP...is this possible here, or do I have no idea what I am talking about.
Also, I don't know if this is even possible, as it may be done at a different software level than this dash operates on, but it'd be nice if there were an easier way to switch profiles or change which controller is using a profile. It rarely affects me, but when it does, it is unbelievably frustrating.
Also, someday a calendar would be cool. I don't see why syncing a calendar with outlook wouldn't be possible (not that I know how to do it).
Also, after kinect comes out, I am curious if JTAGed boxes would be able to use Skype or anything like that. Not really a feature I'm interested, but I am curious how Kinect will *eventually* be used by hackers on the Xbox.
As for FSD, another cool *future* feature would be the ability to use the chat pad...kinda like how searches on the Kindle work. You'd just start typing the name of a game, and a list would be populated as you type...not a necessity, just something cool for down the road.
Okay, enough ideas from me for now.
Post by: kettenschutz on July 13, 2010, 01:49:00 AM
there are a lot of further ideas for FSD20 for the future
i think we should create a new thread if FSD20 alpha is release, so we can check whats up, whats wrong and what could be useful and handy
maybe there are programmers then who can catch our stuff
i would like a gui Wii-like
here you got a lot of tools in one screen, since natal / kincet is available, there were tons of new options, if we have the possibility to code for natal
(the code should be hacked, otherwise kincet shouldnt be to much open source
)the idea of a chatpad is brilliant. MSN, ICQ or a multimessenger would be a dream
cool webbrowser / email client, too of course
Post by: Mattie on July 13, 2010, 07:27:00 PM
QUOTE(tiderium @ Jul 12 2010, 05:50 PM)
Suitably put in my place thanx mattie.
I did try to edit out the bit about a credit screen but my connection timed out.
if I have tread on anyones toes I am sorry
I am just really looking forward to your work seeing the light of day.
and an impatient sod to boot.
also thanx for the patience with an impatient scottish git.
also just out of curiousity what were you not happy about the music with (almost imdb trivia section now)
me now goes out and takes a chill pill to relax and wait
no problem dude, i've been on the other side, the waiting for some software update
i was happy with the music, i just lowered the quality so it uses less space and still sounded good.
the thing MaesterRowen fixed for me was the width of the about screen, that was all
and my toes are still fine, no worries....
Post by: Aldanga on July 14, 2010, 02:04:00 AM
QUOTE(hfmls @ Jul 13 2010, 08:41 PM)
since xbox360 reads mp4 i would love a youtube plugin
in fsd 2.0 but, in the future, i want this alpha now!!
Dude, and I'm trying to say this in the nicest way: Please shut up. You ask for features or releases in every single thread you enter. It's getting extremely old.
Post by: kettenschutz on July 14, 2010, 02:41:00 AM
Post by: minus5252 on July 14, 2010, 09:06:00 AM
This way, any ideas can be submitted in the proper thread and won't be seen as begging, whining, or bitching. There are some out there with excellent ideas that I'm sure TeamFSD would at least be interested in down the line. I don't mean this as something to distract them from their current work, but once FSD 2.0 source has been released, we might see implementation of these ideas through TeamFSD, or someone else.
Post by: kettenschutz on July 14, 2010, 09:31:00 AM
now there could be a little "pressure" at teamFSD, cause there are a lot of ideas now in the thread teamfsd will think about
hopefully they ignore this thread until the release is stable and ready
So ... whatever ... happy brainstorming there
Post by: Mattie on July 14, 2010, 03:58:00 PM
Post by: Stubberzz on July 14, 2010, 10:44:00 PM
QUOTE
4 hours MaesterRowen Stage 3 Cleanup
4 hours MaesterRowen Stage 2 Clean up
4 hours MaesterRowen Stage 1 Skin Clean Up
4 hours MaesterRowen Stage 2 Clean up
4 hours MaesterRowen Stage 1 Skin Clean Up
Post by: juggahax0r on July 15, 2010, 12:29:00 AM
QUOTE(kettenschutz @ Jul 14 2010, 11:31 AM)
i think it should be more clever to wait with this thread until the alpha is released
now there could be a little "pressure" at teamFSD, cause there are a lot of ideas now in the thread teamfsd will think about
hopefully they ignore this thread until the release is stable and ready
So ... whatever ... happy brainstorming there
Why would they feel pressured? They could decide not to even release it if they wanted to, it's THEIR project and it will be how they want it to be....
Glad to see the latest updates hopefully a release in the next couple days considering they are in cleanup stages now for alpha.
Post by: hfmls on July 15, 2010, 01:32:00 AM
Post by: kettenschutz on July 15, 2010, 02:06:00 AM
QUOTE(Mattie @ Jul 14 2010, 11:58 PM)
pfff pressure? we know no such thing
okay thats fine
just worriyng about the final state
Post by: minus5252 on July 15, 2010, 08:35:00 AM
@954 [954] 9 minutes MaesterRowen GNU General Public License
Post by: kettenschutz on July 15, 2010, 09:03:00 AM
QUOTE(minus5252 @ Jul 15 2010, 04:35 PM)
Is it just me, or does this sound like a final step:
@954 [954] 9 minutes MaesterRowen GNU General Public License
that looks ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffantastic
))
Post by: EKrboi on July 15, 2010, 09:10:00 AM
(edit) @953 [953] 14 hours MaesterRowen Stage 3 Cleanup
(edit) @952 [952] 14 hours MaesterRowen Stage 2 Clean up
(edit) @951 [951] 15 hours MaesterRowen Stage 1 Skin Clean Up
hopefully that means were gonna be getting some kind of release VERY soon! im getting excited for something new to play with on my jtag! from the videos i have watched it looks to me like it will be amazing! there may be no reason to even need to go into NXE ever again!!!
Post by: Kamse on July 15, 2010, 10:07:00 AM
Post by: red_ring_of_box on July 15, 2010, 11:26:00 AM
WOOO, seems like a release is comming SOON
Just a question though... how is it able to be licensed under the GNU when it is using code from the 360's sdk, or does it only apply to compiled builds? Please don't take this the wrong way I love the fact that it is under the GNU now and I hope it stays that way. I'm just curious to see how that works.
Post by: Aldanga on July 15, 2010, 11:47:00 AM
QUOTE(red_ring_of_box @ Jul 15 2010, 12:26 PM)
@954 [954] 48 minutes MaesterRowen GNU General Public License
WOOO, seems like a release is comming SOON
Just a question though... how is it able to be licensed under the GNU when it is using code from the 360's sdk, or does it only apply to compiled builds? Please don't take this the wrong way I love the fact that it is under the GNU now and I hope it stays that way. I'm just curious to see how that works.
The code is not illegal to write. The problem is compiling the software for the 360. The 360 SDK is licensed with an agreement stating that one cannot release certain softwares, etc., but writing code which can be compiled into 360 software is entirely legal.
Post by: Aldanga on July 15, 2010, 12:10:00 PM
Post by: red_ring_of_box on July 15, 2010, 12:17:00 PM
GNU FTW lol
Post by: Aldanga on July 15, 2010, 12:24:00 PM
People, seriously chill. You can bet it'll be on the front page when FSD 2.0 is released. It doesn't do any good waiting around for them to release. Just relax and it'll come soon enough.
Post by: antisniperspy on July 15, 2010, 12:43:00 PM
QUOTE(Aldanga @ Jul 15 2010, 02:24 PM)
It's not compiling, which prevents it from being built and running. Basically--and this is all assumption--my guess is that the code was added, but there is some sort of problem which needs to be addressed later. He probably doesn't have time to fix it right now, but doesn't want to lose the work he's put into it.
People, seriously chill. You can bet it'll be on the front page when FSD 2.0 is released. It doesn't do any good waiting around for them to release. Just relax and it'll come soon enough.
Can't look away from screen!!
Post by: GTRagnarok on July 15, 2010, 12:58:00 PM
Post by: minus5252 on July 15, 2010, 02:05:00 PM
QUOTE(Aldanga @ Jul 15 2010, 01:24 PM)
It's not compiling, which prevents it from being built and running. Basically--and this is all assumption--my guess is that the code was added, but there is some sort of problem which needs to be addressed later. He probably doesn't have time to fix it right now, but doesn't want to lose the work he's put into it.
People, seriously chill. You can bet it'll be on the front page when FSD 2.0 is released. It doesn't do any good waiting around for them to release. Just relax and it'll come soon enough.
Wow, I had NO idea that this would be front page news...thanks for your pointless 2 cents...If no one acted excited about this release, the coders might lose interest as well. It is nothing but positive and normal for us to be anxiously awaiting this release. My point is, it does a lot of good to wait around for the release. It build excitement and community. BOTH of these are good things.
Post by: Aldanga on July 15, 2010, 03:23:00 PM
QUOTE(minus5252 @ Jul 15 2010, 03:05 PM)
Wow, I had NO idea that this would be front page news...thanks for your pointless 2 cents...If no one acted excited about this release, the coders might lose interest as well. It is nothing but positive and normal for us to be anxiously awaiting this release. My point is, it does a lot of good to wait around for the release. It build excitement and community. BOTH of these are good things.
Whoa, chill. I wasn't attacking you or anyone else. There's no reason to lash out like that.
Excitement is fine, but when this turns into a firmware-like thread, it really gets on my nerves. People sitting around refreshing pages and commenting on every little log is petty and quite pointless. Pet peeve or whatever, it's annoying when people take each minute detail, repeating themselves and others, and, in the process, clog up the forum with useless posts. If, however, people learn how to constructively express themselves and their excitement and add substance to the discussion, I'll have no issue.
Post by: minus5252 on July 15, 2010, 04:28:00 PM
QUOTE(Aldanga @ Jul 15 2010, 04:23 PM)
Whoa, chill. I wasn't attacking you or anyone else. There's no reason to lash out like that.
Excitement is fine, but when this turns into a firmware-like thread, it really gets on my nerves. People sitting around refreshing pages and commenting on every little log is petty and quite pointless. Pet peeve or whatever, it's annoying when people take each minute detail, repeating themselves and others, and, in the process, clog up the forum with useless posts. If, however, people learn how to constructively express themselves and their excitement and add substance to the discussion, I'll have no issue.
Chill? It was just a joke (and I thought it was damn funny, guess I'm the only one)...I understand not everyone is as excited as I am...the easy way to avoid what you are talking about is don't read these threads over and over...
Post by: Aldanga on July 15, 2010, 05:25:00 PM
QUOTE(minus5252 @ Jul 15 2010, 05:28 PM)
Chill? It was just a joke (and I thought it was damn funny, guess I'm the only one)...I understand not everyone is as excited as I am...the easy way to avoid what you are talking about is don't read these threads over and over...
You became abrasive. "Thanks for your pointless 2 cents" is not a personal attack? You live in an interesting world. And for future reference: sarcasm doesn't translate well over the Internet, in case you haven't noticed previously.
It's annoying when the forums devolve into nonconstructive posts. There were some very good exchanges some pages back, but things have turned into one line posts and other pointless drivel. Is it my place to make people do what I want? No, but I think encouraging people to add to the discussion instead of taking up space is something all members should do.
Post by: minus5252 on July 15, 2010, 06:22:00 PM
QUOTE(Aldanga @ Jul 15 2010, 06:25 PM)
You became abrasive. "Thanks for your pointless 2 cents" is not a personal attack? You live in an interesting world. And for future reference: sarcasm doesn't translate well over the Internet, in case you haven't noticed previously.
It's annoying when the forums devolve into nonconstructive posts. There were some very good exchanges some pages back, but things have turned into one line posts and other pointless drivel. Is it my place to make people do what I want? No, but I think encouraging people to add to the discussion instead of taking up space is something all members should do.
Hahahaha...I'm sorry you're so easily hurt...grow up. You come in here with some petty demands for no reason. You, my friend, are the one who is "devolving the forums." We were ll having a good time, being excited about FSD 2.0, then you come and decided that we were having too much fun I guess...sorry, we'll try and keep the "fun" level down.
Oh, and please, don't respond to this again. You obviously don't share our enthusiasm and don't want to contribute to this thread, so just read another one.
P.S. Sarcasm translates well if you take a second to absorb what someone might have been saying before getting your panties in a wad because things aren't going the way, and I'm emphasizing this, **YOU** want, doesn't mean they need to stop. Start your own website/forum if you want control. Otherwise, have fun and ENJOY the conversation.
Post by: EKrboi on July 15, 2010, 08:10:00 PM
<--- has two hands up! (literally... look at my gamercard =P)
Post by: minus5252 on July 15, 2010, 08:17:00 PM
QUOTE(EKrboi @ Jul 15 2010, 09:10 PM)
eff the haters.. if your excited for the release of FSD 2.0 let me get "two hands up! two hands up!" =P
<--- has two hands up! (literally... look at my gamercard =P)
<<Has hands up>>
Post by: MrFlooD on July 16, 2010, 07:43:00 AM
Why did I have to come into work today
Post by: dustin6908 on July 16, 2010, 07:57:00 AM
Post by: Aldanga on July 16, 2010, 10:55:00 AM
QUOTE(minus5252 @ Jul 15 2010, 07:22 PM)
Hahahaha...I'm sorry you're so easily hurt...grow up. You come in here with some petty demands for no reason. You, my friend, are the one who is "devolving the forums." We were ll having a good time, being excited about FSD 2.0, then you come and decided that we were having too much fun I guess...sorry, we'll try and keep the "fun" level down.
Oh, and please, don't respond to this again. You obviously don't share our enthusiasm and don't want to contribute to this thread, so just read another one.
P.S. Sarcasm translates well if you take a second to absorb what someone might have been saying before getting your panties in a wad because things aren't going the way, and I'm emphasizing this, **YOU** want, doesn't mean they need to stop. Start your own website/forum if you want control. Otherwise, have fun and ENJOY the conversation.
@hfmls:
Yep, looks like the thing's going to be releasing very soon. Very excited for the alpha.
@MrFlooD:
People have been saying that since XBR was originally released, then XeXMenu, then everything after that. I do hope this helps to spur development further, but it's the hardwork of people who care to make an impact, not the release of a one tool, that will truly make the difference.
Post by: bucko on July 16, 2010, 01:55:00 PM
Post by: dschu012 on July 16, 2010, 02:33:00 PM
QUOTE
Release: NOT TODAY
Topic set by [email protected] on Fri Jul 16 2010 15:13:59 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Topic set by [email protected] on Fri Jul 16 2010 15:13:59 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
According to the irc channel not today.
Post by: jeffrey92 on July 17, 2010, 04:50:00 AM
Post by: omegastar on July 17, 2010, 08:33:00 AM
Post by: minus5252 on July 17, 2010, 09:14:00 AM
QUOTE(omegastar @ Jul 17 2010, 09:33 AM)
The Alpha will be released Sunday.
Out of curiosity, is this speculation, or has it been verified?
Post by: GTRagnarok on July 17, 2010, 11:58:00 AM
QUOTE(minus5252 @ Jul 17 2010, 10:14 AM)
Out of curiosity, is this speculation, or has it been verified?
He's always making predictions. Who knows, could finally be right this time.
Post by: jeffrey92 on July 17, 2010, 02:17:00 PM
i hope they do though... im going on an 3 week trip tomorrow morning and it would suck to be wondering how awesome fsd 2 really is all that time
Post by: minus5252 on July 17, 2010, 02:32:00 PM
QUOTE(jeffrey92 @ Jul 17 2010, 03:17 PM)
i wouldnt be surprised if they released it today
i hope they do though... im going on an 3 week trip tomorrow morning and it would suck to be wondering how awesome fsd 2 really is all that time
I feel for you man, I hope your able to get it in time IF it is released today or tomorrow.
Post by: Drefsab on July 18, 2010, 06:00:00 AM
Post by: vampirexx on July 19, 2010, 09:50:00 AM
QUOTE(rory2005 @ Jul 19 2010, 05:30 PM)
does anyone know anything on a release as the team fsd page is down
Post by: Drefsab on July 19, 2010, 10:32:00 AM
Post by: Drefsab on July 19, 2010, 10:38:00 AM
the trac has been take off, but the SVN log's on the bottom right hand side of the page are back so latest updates are there.It's damned ugly and I much preferred the trac but at least its there.
Post by: BladeWing on July 19, 2010, 11:16:00 AM
FREESTYLE 2.0
Post by: minus5252 on July 19, 2010, 11:20:00 AM
QUOTE(BladeWing @ Jul 19 2010, 12:16 PM)
WOOOHOOO...Jigga99 can suck a big fat one!
Post by: p4r0l3 on July 19, 2010, 11:31:00 AM
Post by: BladeWing on July 19, 2010, 11:41:00 AM
Post by: antisniperspy on July 19, 2010, 11:43:00 AM
On another note woooooooot cant wait to get home!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: heffe2001 on July 19, 2010, 11:43:00 AM
Post by: Stubberzz on July 19, 2010, 12:02:00 PM
Post by: Midnight Tboy on July 19, 2010, 12:10:00 PM
So does the alpha still have most features disabled like their original plans were a few weeks back?
Most importantly for me...does it allow you to update game info artwork and trailers from the internet (here's hoping)
Post by: Aldanga on July 19, 2010, 12:28:00 PM
I haven't been able to get FSD itself to see my GOD containers or other games. and it's hard freezing whenever I try to view saves or Xbox Originals. I'm still troubleshooting those problems.
Post by: Stubberzz on July 19, 2010, 12:32:00 PM
QUOTE(Aldanga @ Jul 20 2010, 02:28 AM)
It looks like most features are disabled, yes.
I haven't been able to get FSD itself to see my GOD containers or other games. and it's hard freezing whenever I try to view saves or Xbox Originals. I'm still troubleshooting those problems.
edit the XML config file in the FSD2data directory in the root of your HDD or USB and edit the tabs, like it says in the installation.txt and you games will show up and start to download the data press "back" to bring up the status bar.
Post by: EKrboi on July 19, 2010, 12:32:00 PM
Post by: Aldanga on July 19, 2010, 12:34:00 PM
QUOTE(Stubberzz @ Jul 19 2010, 01:32 PM)
edit the XML config file in the FSD2data directory in the root of your HDD or USB and edit the tabs, like it says in the installation.txt and you games will show up and start to download the data press "back" to bring up the status bar.
Hah. I can't believe I overlooked that. Thanks. Perhaps I should eat before messing around with this kind of thing.
Post by: Stubberzz on July 19, 2010, 12:36:00 PM
Post by: rory2005 on July 19, 2010, 12:40:00 PM
i have made a post requesting help in the thread below so not to clutter this one up.
please check it out and help an idiot.
ps thanks team fsd on all your hard work.
Post by: 1kitt1 on July 19, 2010, 12:46:00 PM
No fan control?
Post by: hfmls on July 19, 2010, 12:47:00 PM
is it ok?
<paths>
<path retail='360' devkit='EMULATOR'>hdd1:\GAMES</path>
<path retail='EMULATOR' devkit='EMULATOR'>hdd1:\Emulators</path>
<path retail='HOMEBREW' devkit='EMULATOR'>hdd1:\Applications</path>
</paths>
is RSS disabled?
This post has been edited by hfmls: Jul 19 2010, 07:47 PM
Post by: hfmls on July 19, 2010, 02:24:00 PM
<path retail='EMULATOR' devkit='EMULATOR'>hdd1:\Emulators</path>
<path retail='HOMEBREW' devkit='HOMEBREW'>hdd1:\Applications</path>