Post by: Sunblood on January 23, 2010, 03:27:00 PM
I know Lost Odyssey lets you save right before a disc change, so it'd be possible to exit to dash and load the next disc's default.xex, then load the save from there. I'm not sure yet how Mass Effect 2 will work and whether you need disc 2 at a certain story segment or if you need disc 2 to access just certain missions and swapping back and forth will be common.
Post by: confusedman09 on January 23, 2010, 03:49:00 PM
Post by: iEzio on January 23, 2010, 04:04:00 PM
Is this working for every other title, too?
Would be great if this method will work with Final Fantasy XIII. =)
Post by: Sunblood on January 23, 2010, 04:05:00 PM
QUOTE(confusedman09 @ Jan 23 2010, 04:49 PM) 
In mass effect, i put both disc files into one folder (letting it overwrite common files), works perfect. The one XEX works, and it doesnt even ask for a second disc.
Are you sure you got to a point where it would have asked for the other disc?
This would be amazing if true.
Post by: confusedman09 on January 23, 2010, 04:14:00 PM
I am 100% sure i was at the disc switching point, as originally it was asking for a second disk, and then gave a dirt disc error straight away. I simply transferred the content from both discs into 1 folder, and overwrote any common files. Now the disk switch thing pops up for half a second, and I can continue playing. Not tried it with any other games yet.
hope i helped
Post by: jhoff80 on January 23, 2010, 04:29:00 PM
Well, we'll see, still a week before I'll buy it.
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Post by: Cerise on January 23, 2010, 08:16:00 PM
Post by: danked on January 23, 2010, 08:56:00 PM
Post by: ian_hard on January 23, 2010, 09:51:00 PM
QUOTE(danked @ Jan 24 2010, 02:56 PM) 
Someone should test this with star ocean, cause at the end you can change disc at will.
about to give it a go
Post by: ian_hard on January 23, 2010, 11:01:00 PM
Post by: savagepoop on January 27, 2010, 10:42:00 PM
i put all the files for both disks in the same folder, over wrote all common files but when i use xexmenu or any other dash to launch it i just get "error, this game could not be started"
ive tried copying the first disk then the second also tried copying the second disk then the first. niether way has worked.
any ideas as to what im doing wrong?
game in question is mass effect 2 and im trying to run from a usb hdd
Post by: Sunblood on January 27, 2010, 11:21:00 PM
QUOTE(savagepoop @ Jan 27 2010, 11:42 PM)
been trying to get this working now for the last few hours and its driving me mad...
i put all the files for both disks in the same folder, over wrote all common files but when i use xexmenu or any other dash to launch it i just get "error, this game could not be started"
ive tried copying the first disk then the second also tried copying the second disk then the first. niether way has worked.
any ideas as to what im doing wrong?
game in question is mass effect 2 and im trying to run from a usb hdd
I extracted both discs to the same folder on my PC, skipping any files that were already there. Move the whole folder to hdd1:\Games\Mass Effect 2 and I can run default.xex just fine from the XeXMenu main menu. Areas that require disc 2 will pop up "Please insert Disc 2" for a second, then it disappears and the area loads like normal.
Post by: savagepoop on January 27, 2010, 11:48:00 PM
QUOTE(Sunblood @ Jan 28 2010, 06:21 AM)
I extracted both discs to the same folder on my PC, skipping any files that were already there. Move the whole folder to hdd1:\Games\Mass Effect 2 and I can run default.xex just fine from the XeXMenu main menu. Areas that require disc 2 will pop up "Please insert Disc 2" for a second, then it disappears and the area loads like normal.
im re ripping it as we speak as im hoping i just did a bad rip, almost done now tho so should be able to test in the next few mins. all my other games work fine so thats y this has stumped me....
Post by: savagepoop on January 28, 2010, 02:38:00 AM
when my 3.5 inch drive arrives ill try it on there but if that dont work i got no idea whats wrong.
Post by: jihaut on January 28, 2010, 04:17:00 AM
QUOTE(savagepoop @ Jan 28 2010, 09:38 AM)
hmmm still dont work. just keep getting " the game cannot be started" i tried just putting one disk on the hdd and get same error. tried ripping and copying forza 3 across and that worked fine (it asked me to install disk 2 but i already had it on the hdd, is this normal?)
when my 3.5 inch drive arrives ill try it on there but if that dont work i got no idea whats wrong.
Have you patched the .xex?
For both games?
Post by: omega232 on January 28, 2010, 04:49:00 AM
What are you trying to do? Copy it from dvd using the xbox to do it?
Extract both the iso's on your pc and drag and drop one folder into the other, doesn't matter which (dragging disc 1 into disc 2 will make it ask for disc 1 for a split secod and vice versa). Then just launch it from xexmenu.
Post by: dufc1983 on January 28, 2010, 05:00:00 AM
Post by: savagepoop on January 28, 2010, 05:22:00 PM
QUOTE(dufc1983 @ Jan 28 2010, 12:00 PM)
working on my external 500gb hard drive,all i did was rip disc 1 via xboxgamebrowser,created a folder in Games/Mass Effect 2 transferred it via ftp,did the same for disc 2 transferred via ftp selecting yes if it asks to replace any files
been tryin all day and still no good, i dont get it. ive ripped my copy several times even tried downloading it to see if my rip was bad but still no luck... trying to patch the xex in xexmenu just makes it freeze. is there anyway to patch the xex in windows at all?
Post by: savagepoop on January 28, 2010, 05:48:00 PM
i removed the system update folder and now it boots fine.... added it back and it wont boot again so removed it and it works great now.
strange problem
now if i would have only thought of that 24 hours ago....
Post by: j005u on January 30, 2010, 06:33:00 AM
Post by: welly_59 on January 30, 2010, 06:41:00 AM
Post by: hfmls on January 30, 2010, 06:58:00 AM
creat for example mass effect 2 folder
copy all files from DVD1 to that folder
copy all files from DVD2 to that folder
if it asks if u want to overwrite any file when copying DVD2, say NO.
just let it copy all files without overwriting the ones you've already copied from DVD1.
that should work. here works.
if not, try the opposite. overwrite when asked.
for me it worked first way.
Post by: simonk83 on January 30, 2010, 01:38:00 PM
QUOTE(hfmls @ Jan 31 2010, 12:58 AM)
guys do this:
creat for example mass effect 2 folder
copy all files from DVD1 to that folder
copy all files from DVD2 to that folder
if it asks if u want to overwrite any file when copying DVD2, say NO.
just let it copy all files without overwriting the ones you've already copied from DVD1.
that should work. here works.
if not, try the opposite. overwrite when asked.
for me it worked first way.
I tried to do this last night but it just crashed with a black screen after I imported my ME1 character. That said though, I've had a few crashes.... I loaded MAME last night (no games in there, just to try it) and it crashed after I pressed a few buttons (the screen just freezes, won't respond to the guide button or anything).
Post by: DrexeL_UK on January 30, 2010, 04:49:00 PM
1. Extracted Disc 1 to a folder on my PC.
2. Extracted Disc 2 to the same folder, overwriting EVERY common file, including default.xex
3. FTP'd said folder to the 360.
4. Created a quickboot shortcut.
Apart from crashing one time at the disc change prompt, the game is working flawlessly for me, it just flashes 'Insert Disc 1' occasionally then continues as normal. FWIW I'm running without a DVD drive attached, shouldn't make any difference but maybe it does?
Post by: bcordell70 on January 30, 2010, 05:41:00 PM
Post by: jhoff80 on January 30, 2010, 05:46:00 PM
QUOTE(bcordell70 @ Jan 30 2010, 09:41 PM)
So if that works then you should also be able to create GOD file once both cd's are extracted and all common files are overwritten, then recreate a ISO then use with ISO2GOD ? Just thinking out loud.
I'm hoping so, that's my plan eventually as well.
Post by: HaloSlayer on February 05, 2010, 01:12:00 AM
QUOTE
1. Extracted Disc 1 to a folder on my PC.
2. Extracted Disc 2 to the same folder, overwriting EVERY common file, including default.xex
3. FTP'd said folder to the 360.
2. Extracted Disc 2 to the same folder, overwriting EVERY common file, including default.xex
3. FTP'd said folder to the 360.
I did this and when I try to start a new game it tells me to insert disc 1.
Did anyone have this issue?
Thanks
Post by: hfmls on February 05, 2010, 02:50:00 AM
Post by: DrexeL_UK on February 05, 2010, 02:57:00 AM
QUOTE(HaloSlayer @ Feb 5 2010, 08:12 AM)
I did this and when I try to start a new game it tells me to insert disc 1.
Did anyone have this issue?
Thanks
For me it just flashes up 'insert disc 1' for a split second then carries on
Post by: simonk83 on February 05, 2010, 04:21:00 AM
QUOTE(DrexeL_UK @ Feb 5 2010, 08:57 PM)
For me it just flashes up 'insert disc 1' for a split second then carries on
Yep, this is working for me now as well. All I did differently was copy disc 1 over disc 2 and chose to skip files, but I doubt it makes much difference. All works anyway
Post by: Doughboy3 on February 05, 2010, 06:45:00 PM
Post by: DrexeL_UK on February 06, 2010, 03:39:00 AM
So, to clarify:
1. Run Forza 3 from DVD.
2. Choose 'install disc two' from the menu.
3. Exit game once disc two is installed.
You can then run Forza 3 from the HDD (assuming you already have it on your HDD of course) with the content from the second DVD installed.
This post has been edited by DrexeL_UK: Feb 6 2010, 11:47 AM
Post by: jhoff80 on February 06, 2010, 03:54:00 PM
Post by: jhoff80 on February 06, 2010, 03:54:00 PM
This post has been edited by jhoff80: Feb 7 2010, 12:28 AM
Post by: jhoff80 on February 06, 2010, 05:24:00 PM
QUOTE(jhoff80 @ Feb 6 2010, 07:54 PM)
So I copied both discs of ME2 into the same folder, created an ISO, and used ISO2GOD to convert that into a Games on Demand folder, and upon running it on the 360 it said that it couldn't be launched, or something along those lines... just for anyone thinking of attempting it.
I should also point out that it appears to be working fine from XexMenu.
Post by: ferrandu on February 07, 2010, 10:17:00 AM
Post by: ska_drummer85 on February 07, 2010, 01:26:00 PM
QUOTE(ferrandu @ Feb 7 2010, 11:17 AM)
anyone know the steps for the halo 3 odst?
Halo 3 ODST disc 1 is story mode only. Disc 2 is Halo 3 multiplayer only. Rip them to separate folders.
However, I don't see why you would need the multiplayer disc unless you plan on playing a lot of LAN games.
Post by: godhatesyou on February 07, 2010, 05:28:00 PM
Post by: simonk83 on February 07, 2010, 05:33:00 PM
QUOTE(godhatesyou @ Feb 8 2010, 11:28 AM)
For ME2 it made a difference for me when I replaced disc one files with disc two's. This caused it to freeze at character import 100% of the time. So from my experience disc one files can't be overwritten by disc two's for the game to work correctly.
I had the same experience
Post by: tbb033 on February 07, 2010, 09:11:00 PM
QUOTE(jhoff80 @ Feb 6 2010, 05:54 PM)
So I copied both discs of ME2 into the same folder, created an ISO, and used ISO2GOD to convert that into a Games on Demand folder, and upon running it on the 360 it said that it couldn't be launched, or something along those lines... just for anyone thinking of attempting it.
I didn't even bother trying to run the GoD that was generated when I tried this, as clearly something had been taken out that shouldn't have been - the total size of the GoD was only 6.6 gigs. lol, if the game could be made that small, it'd be a single disc game!
Post by: Midnight Tboy on February 07, 2010, 09:28:00 PM
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Post by: jhoff80 on February 08, 2010, 12:11:00 AM
QUOTE(tbb033 @ Feb 8 2010, 01:11 AM)
I didn't even bother trying to run the GoD that was generated when I tried this, as clearly something had been taken out that shouldn't have been - the total size of the GoD was only 6.6 gigs. lol, if the game could be made that small, it'd be a single disc game!
Never checked the size, but yeah that'd do it.
Post by: Redsquirrel on March 03, 2010, 07:51:00 AM
Post by: XxErrorxX on March 04, 2010, 06:10:00 PM
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?s=&...t&p=4651707
it behaves as if it should have been 3 disc. When you are finished with a disk pop-up "will you save before you insert the next disk". then continue playing after you have saved or chosen not to save.
This post has been edited by XxErrorxX: Mar 5 2010, 02:21 AM
Post by: tbb033 on March 05, 2010, 02:27:00 PM
QUOTE(XxErrorxX @ Mar 4 2010, 08:10 PM)
Cerise says you can not copy blue dragon disc to a folder and get it to run. But that's just nonsense. I have played in throughout the blue dragon and it works just fine ... the version I made was 11.6 gb instead of 19gb ..
http://forums.xbox-s...&...t&p=4651707
it behaves as if it should have been 3 disc. When you are finished with a disk pop-up "will you save before you insert the next disk". then continue playing after you have saved or chosen not to save.
When you were copying disc 2 and 3, did you overwrite files or keep files with the same name?
Maybe you chose one option, and Cerise chose the other and that's the discrepancy?
Post by: TonyRage on March 05, 2010, 05:39:00 PM
QUOTE(Redsquirrel @ Mar 3 2010, 04:51 PM)
does this work with FF13?
No. FF13 *has* to be run from disk. At the very least you can install it via NXE for better performance, but the disk swap requires the disk to be recognised and to continue the game.
If you're wondering if you can load DVD2 via a HDD and then load your previous save game, then no, that doesn't work. There is no save prompt immediately before a disc swap, so you literally have to swap the discs when asked. Perhaps if XexMenu and other dashboards implement a "mount" feature (similar to DaemonTools) then this could work where disc swaps are concerned, but until then it seems to be hit and miss with multi-disc titles.
Post by: p4r0l3 on March 05, 2010, 08:18:00 PM
QUOTE(TonyRage @ Mar 5 2010, 06:39 PM)
No. FF13 *has* to be run from disk. At the very least you can install it via NXE for better performance, but the disk swap requires the disk to be recognised and to continue the game.
If you're wondering if you can load DVD2 via a HDD and then load your previous save game, then no, that doesn't work. There is no save prompt immediately before a disc swap, so you literally have to swap the discs when asked. Perhaps if XexMenu and other dashboards implement a "mount" feature (similar to DaemonTools) then this could work where disc swaps are concerned, but until then it seems to be hit and miss with multi-disc titles.
wrong, you can merge the 3 dvds into one folder (skip same name files, don't overwrite) and the game never asks you to switch discs
Post by: TonyRage on March 05, 2010, 08:25:00 PM
QUOTE(p4r0l3 @ Mar 6 2010, 05:18 AM)
wrong, you can merge the 3 dvds into one folder (skip same name files, don't overwrite) and the game never asks you to switch discs
Wrong. The img.key file is different for each disc (hash ending in 00, 01 and 02 respectively) and is one of the methods used to determine the present disc.
Having actually tried to merge them in the manner you suggested and reaching disc 2 and the swap, I can personally confirm it doesn't work. Anyone suggesting differently hasn't tried it and is just spouting assumption.
Post by: belenos on March 05, 2010, 11:41:00 PM
Post by: flo2bio on March 06, 2010, 07:09:00 AM
QUOTE(belenos @ Mar 6 2010, 07:41 AM)
actually yes you can merge them you also have to use a decompressed and patched default.xex. I have done this and it plays seamlessly from disc 1 to disc 2 never even telling you to swap discs. only reason i even knew I had made it to disc 2 is because of the saves.
GREAT!
I'm actually at the end of DVD1 and I can't continue!
Please could you explain in detail how you managed Belenos?
Post by: belenos on March 06, 2010, 08:53:00 AM
Post by: XxErrorxX on March 06, 2010, 09:01:00 AM
QUOTE(tbb033 @ Mar 5 2010, 10:27 PM)
When you were copying disc 2 and 3, did you overwrite files or keep files with the same name?
Maybe you chose one option, and Cerise chose the other and that's the discrepancy?
i overwrite the files (First disc 2 to disc 1 and then disc 3 to 1+2), but The_Last_Remnant don't work because some ini files, but it can be edit to work.Xbox360TOC.txt and perhaps Coalesced.ini Coalesced.us
Star_Ocean_The_Last_Hope_PAL_XBOX360-STRANGE
Works not because the files are compressed into the 2 bin files with same name. But show some find out how to open them so you can probably get it to work
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Post by: Hausmanis on March 06, 2010, 11:13:00 AM
Post by: belenos on March 06, 2010, 11:30:00 AM
Post by: apcarr on March 06, 2010, 11:33:00 AM
Post by: Hausmanis on March 06, 2010, 11:34:00 AM
Post by: p4r0l3 on March 06, 2010, 10:53:00 PM
QUOTE(TonyRage @ Mar 5 2010, 09:25 PM)
Wrong. The img.key file is different for each disc (hash ending in 00, 01 and 02 respectively) and is one of the methods used to determine the present disc.
Having actually tried to merge them in the manner you suggested and reaching disc 2 and the swap, I can personally confirm it doesn't work. Anyone suggesting differently hasn't tried it and is just spouting assumption.
Just because something doesn't work for you, doesn't mean it doesn't work for others.
With this method after the beach scene, saves begin reading "Disc 2". This comes shortly after 7 hours into the game
This post has been edited by p4r0l3: Mar 7 2010, 06:57 AM
Post by: Lurkin on March 06, 2010, 11:13:00 PM
Post by: Lurkin on March 07, 2010, 12:57:00 AM
QUOTE(TonyRage @ Mar 5 2010, 10:25 PM)
Wrong. The img.key file is different for each disc (hash ending in 00, 01 and 02 respectively) and is one of the methods used to determine the present disc.
Having actually tried to merge them in the manner you suggested and reaching disc 2 and the swap, I can personally confirm it doesn't work. Anyone suggesting differently hasn't tried it and is just spouting assumption.
Disc 1 to Disc 2
I guess we are still assuming.
Post by: AlkaliV2 on March 07, 2010, 01:35:00 PM
Post by: sensi420 on March 07, 2010, 06:08:00 PM
Post by: overclock on March 07, 2010, 07:39:00 PM
QUOTE(TonyRage @ Mar 6 2010, 01:39 AM)
No. FF13 *has* to be run from disk. At the very least you can install it via NXE for better performance, but the disk swap requires the disk to be recognised and to continue the game.
If you're wondering if you can load DVD2 via a HDD and then load your previous save game, then no, that doesn't work. There is no save prompt immediately before a disc swap, so you literally have to swap the discs when asked. Perhaps if XexMenu and other dashboards implement a "mount" feature (similar to DaemonTools) then this could work where disc swaps are concerned, but until then it seems to be hit and miss with multi-disc titles.
You are partially right. Although FF13 CAN be run from the Harddrive with no problem. Copy all the disks files to the Hdd to the same folder, no need to overwrite files, just folders, overwrite folders and skip files or copyover and wait. All you really need are the zones and video from the other disks. The other files are the same.
DELETE the update folder and DELETE the img.key file. It'll never prompt you to switch disks and go striaght to the save dialog which will say disk two and continue on.
Easy fix. =p On the second disk now, although I'm buying the PS3 version on tuesday. =)
-oc
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Post by: dinzy on March 08, 2010, 07:19:00 AM
Post by: Lurkin on March 08, 2010, 07:31:00 AM
Post by: overclock on March 08, 2010, 01:02:00 PM
No need to edit the default.xex other than patch the flags for xbreboot.
-oc
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Post by: zennoux on March 08, 2010, 01:45:00 PM
Post by: Lurkin on March 08, 2010, 04:14:00 PM
Post by: tbb033 on March 08, 2010, 06:04:00 PM
Post by: mrgodai on March 08, 2010, 07:20:00 PM
QUOTE(dinzy @ Mar 8 2010, 09:19 AM)
I did not delete the img.key file but I did use the default.exe file that belenos linked. The game made the transition from d1 to d2 as shown in the video.
I 2nd this, there no need to use patched the .xex or delete the img.key, my game never asked for disc 2 or 3 when all files are copied together in one place
Post by: hfmls on March 08, 2010, 10:05:00 PM
QUOTE(mrgodai @ Mar 9 2010, 02:20 AM)
I 2nd this, there no need to use patched the .xex or delete the img.key, my game never asked for disc 2 or 3 when all files are copied together in one place
here too
Post by: XxErrorxX on March 09, 2010, 05:43:00 AM
Post by: RiVerS19 on March 09, 2010, 01:46:00 PM
Post by: gothamhunter on March 10, 2010, 06:15:00 AM
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Post by: overclock on March 10, 2010, 07:37:00 AM
QUOTE(tbb033 @ Mar 9 2010, 02:04 AM)
Worked fine just copying disc 2 files to the same folder as disc 1 files and not overwriting anything already there. No need for a patched xex or deleting img.key or anything. Like someone said upthread, if the saves didn't start saying "disc 2" on them you'd never know there'd been a disc change.
I tried that and it wouldn't work for me, it would continue to prompt for disk. I started exploring the files/structure and the only difference is the addiaitonal video and zone data and the img.key file. The rest of the other files are the same.
After buying and playing the ps3 version yesterday I have to say the 360 people are getting jipped hard.
-zp
Post by: SlickWilly440 on March 13, 2010, 07:32:00 PM
Thanks,
SlickWilly
Post by: phaez1 on March 13, 2010, 08:41:00 PM
Post by: SlickWilly440 on March 13, 2010, 08:55:00 PM
Would it be possible to make it even smaller by removing the padding (padded) files, using.......I can't recall what to use to do this.
Post by: Lurkin on March 13, 2010, 09:38:00 PM
I don't think you can really remove anymore because it's down to the individual file level at this point, so each file is a level or a cutscene, etc. It's not like it just took a disc and stripped out the update and something else but left the large portion of game data in there.
This method is just files.
Post by: conners on March 14, 2010, 06:23:00 AM
Post by: Schweino on March 14, 2010, 08:59:00 AM
QUOTE(conners @ Mar 14 2010, 01:23 PM)
Has anyone managed to get this as a GOD. Anyone got a guide?
Yes, make an ISO from the folder using "CreateIsogood(English)", after that use Iso2God
Post by: conners on March 14, 2010, 09:51:00 AM
QUOTE(Schweino @ Mar 14 2010, 04:59 PM)
Yes, make an ISO from the folder using "CreateIsogood(English)", after that use Iso2God
what settings on iso2god?
Im adding all the files together swapping the default.xex with the patched one then creating an iso with createisogood, no matter what settings i use i cant get it to run from nxe
Post by: Jurai on March 14, 2010, 10:42:00 AM
Post by: Fyro on March 14, 2010, 11:36:00 AM
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Post by: gothamhunter on March 14, 2010, 01:55:00 PM
QUOTE(Sunblood @ Jan 23 2010, 05:27 PM)
When running a multi-disc game straight from the HDD via XeXMenu, are there functions in place to emulate ejecting the disc and putting in a new one?
I know Lost Odyssey lets you save right before a disc change, so it'd be possible to exit to dash and load the next disc's default.xex, then load the save from there. I'm not sure yet how Mass Effect 2 will work and whether you need disc 2 at a certain story segment or if you need disc 2 to access just certain missions and swapping back and forth will be common.
I was just trying the usual method of copying all files into one folder and noticed that every file in every disc is named the same for each other disc...so for Lost Odyssey, this will not work unfortunately. The files sizes for each are different on each disc, but they would just end of overwriting all the others.
Post by: SlickWilly440 on March 14, 2010, 02:48:00 PM
There are probably some files that are 100% the same regarding data, then there are the files that have the same names, but have totally different data. Data such as levels, cutscenes, etc.
So how would one differentiate between the two? Well the files with the same data are small, and the files with different data, but same name are huge or they have an important name that same it appear to be a cut scene, etc.
A possible solution would be to combine the files that are huge (appear to be movies/level/etc) and not combine the files that are small ( or don't appear to be movies/level/etc).
Step 1: Extract all the discs into separate folders (Disc 1, Disc 2, Disc3, Disc#...).
Step 2: Add a numerical value to the huge/level/movie/etc data files in correspondence to the disc. For example for a file named "level.xex" in the Disc one folder should be named "level1.xex", then for the same file in the Disc 2 folder should be named "level2" and so forth
Step 3: Combine all the files into one folder while still following the folder structure tree. The files will a numerical value will not overwrite each other and the files with the same name will be overwritten. So basically take all the files in the Disc 1 folder and cut/paste them into the Disc 2 folder, and click yes on overwrite all.
Step4: Open up the Windows Command Prompt (Start->Run->CMD) and for each folder with files that have a numerical order, go to those directories in CMD and run the combine files command. For example a folder that has the files: "level1.xex, level2.xex, level3.xex" run with command: copy /b level1.xex + level2.xex + level3.xex level.xex
This will combine all the files into one file. Then you can delete the files that are in numerical order.
Step5: Play the game.
This probably will not work (or will it), but this would be the first step to figuring out how to make it work.
If there were some program available that could open up the proprietary archive files, then the files inside could be combined into one container file.
Post by: Schweino on March 14, 2010, 04:53:00 PM
QUOTE(Jurai @ Mar 14 2010, 05:42 PM)
fyi you don't even need the patched xex file, removing img.key alone works fine, benelos just 00'd a ton of data in the XEX related to disc/layer changes
Would that also work when you want to run it as a GOD? I ownder why I get the error message when its in GOD format while it runs fine when unpacked.
Post by: alexgold05 on March 15, 2010, 09:40:00 AM
Post by: SlickWilly440 on March 15, 2010, 02:45:00 PM
QUOTE
The Mass Effect 2 disk change occurs at Illium. I didn't try the combined method; but I might ~ I just installed both disks and when the game asked for the second disk and crashed (Disk is Unreadable); I loaded the second disk and it loaded the auto-save made when I entered that Star System just fine. This is typical of Multi-disk Games; there's a good amount of overlap at the Disk Change point. Infinite Undiscovery was much the same.
So basically if you don't mind saving before/at disc swapping points in the game, exiting game, and then loading up the relevant disc, then you can probably play the game all the way through (according to this post I believe).
*By "disc" I'm referring to the extracted image or GOD on the hdd.
Post by: SlickWilly440 on March 17, 2010, 06:48:00 PM
If someone has the image of the games that don't seem to work by extracting to a single folder such as Start Ocean/Infinite Undiscovery/ Etc, then you should check this program out and see if you can open those huge package/archive files with the Game Extractor program.
If this works, then one can just copy/paste all the files in the package files with similar file names all into one package/archive.
Unfortunately, the free version of this program can only read the files, but not edit them. The full version however ($5) can accomplish the modification of these files.
This post has been edited by SlickWilly440: Mar 18 2010, 01:49 AM
Post by: moreniu on March 17, 2010, 07:44:00 PM
To run a multi disc game like FFXIII should I:
a) Make an iso of each disc;
Extract all files from each disc to one folder using lets say iso2god (idc about the folder name);c) Merge all three disc folders into one, overwriting or skiping the doubled files;
d) Send it to the usb drive then make an nxe link with quickboot.
Will it work?
Post by: rulevoid on March 18, 2010, 09:44:00 AM
QUOTE(moreniu @ Mar 17 2010, 08:44 PM)
So, let me get this right.
To run a multi disc game like FFXIII should I:
a) Make an iso of each disc;
Extract all files from each disc to one folder using lets say iso2god (idc about the folder name);c) Merge all three disc folders into one, overwriting or skiping the doubled files;
d) Send it to the usb drive then make an nxe link with quickboot.
Will it work?
Yes.
Post by: moreniu on March 18, 2010, 08:59:00 PM
Post by: Kyo13 on March 23, 2010, 03:29:00 AM
Need a little help here please ! We're trying (a little group of 3 peoples) to understand how to play Star Ocean with only one "disc" (one folder).
The first idea was to compile all soz0.bin files together, and compile all soz1.bin files together, but I was wrong ... I wasn't thinking about the FAT32 limitation, that doesn't allow me to copy bigger files than 4Go.
So the second idea is like other one says here : rename bin files like that :
- soz0.bin = soz0.bin Disc1
- soz1.bin = soz1.bin Disc1
- soz2.bin = soz0.bin Disc2
- soz3.bin = soz1.bin Disc2
- soz4.bin = soz0.bin Disc3
- soz5.bin = soz1.bin Disc3
So now we have to modify the files who indicates bin files ... in fact the XeX file !
After decompressing and decryting the file using XeXTool, we have a 12Mo XeX File, opened with an hexadecimal editor, the words "soz0.bin" and "soz1.bin" can be found !
I've tried many things, but no result for me, all I can say at this point (with 16 bytes per row on the hexadecimal editor) :
- All 3 XeX (Disc1, Disc2, Disc3) have the same lenght and are similar execpt for offsets 260 to 16E2.
- 16E2 offset indicates the number of the disc.
- 16E3 offset indicates the total number of discs.
The words "soz.0bin" and "soz1.bin" are after offset 16E2, so in the similar offsets of the XeX files. Seems like a description of what contains bin files follow these words on the XeX file (So seems like all Bin files have same files inside ! All the same names too ! So decompile bin files, who was another idea, isn't a good idea I think.)
I'm just a noob in hexadecimal edition, if someone better can see that please ? I can up the 3 originals XeX to work on it if needed !
Many thanks to the person who will help us, this is for all JTag's RPG lovers ...
Funny thing anyway : I've tried modify XeX file many times, someone gave me a disc2 savegame ... In my tests, I succesfully launch the game with the XeX, choosing a new game (so Disc1) or choosing to continue savegame (so Disc2) is working ! But when I try to changing planet : I have the disc screen that seems Ok (with the little sound) but go to black screen.
Trying this with a disc in the tray ... asking me for Disc2 when loading the savegame !
I've understand that in fact, by chance, the place of the Disc2 where was the character in the savegame seems to be on the Disc1 too ! Any another planet give me black screen (yeah also disc1 planets). And eject tray can return to NXE dash when the game does black screen.
EDIT : Oops Sorry, need to say : Jasper 512Mb with XBReboot3 and region free patch. So patching XeX isn't necessary for me ... (I mean for region or sign etc ...). No one's telling his JTag method ! And when altered XeX of Final Fantasy XIII come out, I've used it ! Totally usefull for me ... but it's not indicates that the XeX files is modified only for Freebot (works fine on XBReboot3 but not necessary !).
This post has been edited by Kyo13: Mar 23 2010, 11:24 AM
Post by: tbb033 on March 30, 2010, 04:59:00 PM
I'm not even saying they're wrong about removing and I'm right about not removing it, maybe it does cause problems for some people and not others, but why?
Nothing very special about my setup. Just a straight forward Falcon JTAG w/XBR3 using either XexMenu or Freestyle to launch the game from a USB HDD. Just copied the files w/out overwriting, and deleted System Update folder (like I do with every game).
Post by: j005u on March 31, 2010, 04:52:00 AM
Post by: xmugen360 on March 31, 2010, 08:24:00 PM
Post by: Keksz on April 02, 2010, 12:11:00 PM
How do I need to go further?
1) extract the .ISO files:
with ISO2GOD? or Exiso?
2) Merge all disc folders into one (DVD2 into DVD1):
Do I need to overwrite?
or
Do I need to skip files?
What is the "best" way? or a working way? :-D
Post by: Kyo13 on April 03, 2010, 03:01:00 AM
I've tried to copy all files from the disc 2 to the disc 1 folder (skipping same named files) the result is approximatly 7.60Go.
The game is running but there still a problem with savegames after that !
I've played earlier with the standard edition of the game, and have one savegame, running on both games ! But when I try to merge disc 1 and 2, the savegame doesn't work anymore !
Will try to copy file from disc1 to disc2 folder (skipping same named files again), but I don't think that will solve the problem. My savegame works fine with the standard edition of the game, and with the Disc1 of the Ultimate Sith Edition .... so no reason that it doesn't works with the merged version .... because I have keeps the files from the disc 1 !
I don't really understand .... I will try to see all differences between disc 1 and 2 (in term of data), but It will be helpfull to know when the disc 2 is asked ?!
EDIT : And use Exiso to extract ISO ..... ISO2GOD don't extract ISO files ! It will convert the ISO file to Game-On-Demand format, totally different !
This post has been edited by Kyo13: Apr 3 2010, 10:05 AM
Post by: Keksz on April 03, 2010, 04:51:00 AM
QUOTE(Kyo13 @ Apr 3 2010, 11:01 AM)
EDIT : And use Exiso to extract ISO ..... ISO2GOD don't extract ISO files ! It will convert the ISO file to Game-On-Demand format, totally different !
Yeah I know, but within ISO2GOD there is a field Disc 1/1
I thought maybe that would be a solution.
Post by: wulfie on April 07, 2010, 03:50:00 AM
Post by: SlickWilly440 on April 08, 2010, 02:48:00 AM
You can extract the discs into separate folders onto the usb hdd, then do the cut/paste from their. The reason that you don't want to just extract all 3 discs in the same folder is because the program you are using to extract the disc is just going to automatically over write the files you don't want to over write (If you do it this way, you might have to delete the img.key file (I had to) to get the game to boot & I'm not sure if you'll run into any issues or not).
If myself have use this method (extracted 3 discs to separate folder then cut/paste), and I am currently on disc 3 Chapter 11 of the game (There are 13 Chapters in the game).
The disc swap occurs during the transition after Chapter 4 to Chapter 5 and between Chapter 9 and Chapter 10.
I was originally playing with just the 3 discs extracted into separate folders and thought I could just save during the transition from Chapter 4 to 5, but when I got to the loading screen after Chapter 4 there was no option to save (like with pretty much every chapter and major cutscene) and the game was just trying to load the next chapter without any message about switching discs.
Once I cut/pasted the 2nd discs contents into the 1st discs, the loading screen from Chapter 4 to 5 loaded fine, only then did the game ask me if I wanted to save or not (Which is kind of weird and backwards). I assumed this same thing would happen between the transition from Chapter 9 to 10, so I went ahead and cut/pasted the 3rd disc contents in with the 1 discs folder, and didn't run into any problems when proceeding to chapter 10.
This post has been edited by SlickWilly440: Apr 8 2010, 09:53 AM
Post by: GTRagnarok on April 08, 2010, 11:27:00 PM
Post by: Keksz on April 09, 2010, 01:25:00 AM
QUOTE(GTRagnarok @ Apr 9 2010, 07:27 AM)
Now we just need a method for games with same file names on each disc :/
That would be iso2god if it would recognise those games as a 2 disc game.
There is a field in the tool, which is "1 of 1 disc".
But couldn't figured it out how it works (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Post by: Kyo13 on April 09, 2010, 11:03:00 AM
If you install a game like GOD you will have one game by disc ... So you will have 3 GOD in the example of Star Ocean ! What do you want to do with this ? I don't know a program who will combine GOD ...
Convert GOD to ISO will change nothing ---> Back to the system files ---> same problem : files have same names ....
Excuse me for Final Fantasy XIII .... make me a little upset ... if you read the post the answer is near to 10 time posted ... A few people try to find solution to another problem ... and the only answer I see is (again) for FFXIII .... well thanks, we know .... let people searching a little ... more interresting to do here ...
I explain what I've see with Star Ocean, just need a little help now .... so maybe people can do like me ? Trying something ?! See what you can find ... and maybe we will find a solution together !
Thanks.
This post has been edited by Kyo13: Apr 9 2010, 06:04 PM
Post by: Keksz on April 10, 2010, 07:02:00 AM
But it doesn't work if I change it to 1/2 and 2/2, within the GOD the same filenames are extracted
But maybe someone will do that further to work.
Post by: Keksz on April 10, 2010, 07:15:00 AM
QUOTE(SlickWilly440 @ Apr 8 2010, 10:48 AM)
Well, for Final Fantasy XIII, just extract each disc to a separate folder. Then cut/paste the contents of the second disc into the first folder and click yes to overwrite any folder BUT NOT files. Then do the same thing for the disc 3 contents. Finally you should have one folder with all the contents from all 3 discs.
overwrite any folder but not files
it means overwrite anything from DVD2 into DVD1, but not the files in the root folder?
Post by: wulfie on April 10, 2010, 07:43:00 AM
Post by: Keksz on April 10, 2010, 08:26:00 AM
QUOTE(wulfie @ Apr 10 2010, 03:43 PM)
copy everything from disc 2, paste to disc 1, you'll be asked if you want to overwrite the folders, say yes, you'll then be asked if you want to overwrite the files, say no. do the same for disc 3, copy everything from disc 3, paste to disc 1, overwrite folders, do not overwrite files.
ok, than still 1 question:
with "what" do you "copy paste" the folder?
with windows explorer
with a file manager like total commander
or with the xexmenu? :-D
(because I didn't see what make sense to "overwrite" a folder, if you didn't overwrite the files :-D and can't imagine which application will ask something like that)
but I guess I does the same, will check it.
This post has been edited by Keksz: Apr 10 2010, 03:28 PM
Post by: wulfie on April 10, 2010, 08:37:00 AM
Post by: Kyo13 on April 12, 2010, 02:23:00 AM
Again 3 messages about FFXIII ... no comment ... just make a post for it ... and go ask 10 time a page how to make it work if you want ...
So I will use the example of FFXIII (everybody like I see ...) We don't need to modify the number of disc to make it works, as other games that dosen't have same named files ... so, sorry, but I don't think that using GOD for change the number of disc will change something ...
And like I said it before, I've found the disc number information on the XeX files using an hexadecimal editor, but it's useless ... many things need to be changed I think (like I said before, i've take a look at the 3 XeX files of Star Ocean, seems like the 3 files still have the same structure, pointing to bin files ... but seems like XeX files contain bin files details ! And that what need to be changed I think (or correctly assembled).
That why I'm still asking for help .... looking this way ! But I'm slowly begin being tired, of read useless messages, and no one trying to make it works.
So why complicated things ? Games already woking as it .... trying to do things better for everyone don't seems to interest ... So good luck for those who will try to find answer at this probelm !
Post by: Lurkin on April 12, 2010, 06:02:00 AM
For the other games that use the same file name and structure on each disc the problem is that unless someone can rewrite all of the paths to those files it won't be done. Obviously the disc points to the files within it's own disc, so you would have to put the files for each disc into folders like "disc 1", "disc 2", etc and then rewrite the paths in the executables and anywhere else they appear to link to those files with the /disc 1/ before it to get it to work. It's probably too much work and easier to just put each disc in a god format as it's own entry.
That only becomes an issue if you end up with something like Mass Effect 2 where there is not a save point immediately at the disc change. So you can't just start disc 2 and the load the save. That was a smart anti-piracy move in a way but I am sure it was completely accidental on their part.
Post by: SlickWilly440 on April 12, 2010, 07:36:00 AM
QUOTE(Lurkin @ Apr 12 2010, 07:02 AM)
That only becomes an issue if you end up with something like Mass Effect 2 where there is not a save point immediately at the disc change.
It appears that if one tries to play FFXIII with each disc extracted to separate folders, the game will not save immediately before the disc change, but after the disc change. So the only solution seemed to be was to combine all the extracted discs to one folder.
Did anyone have this happen to them?
Post by: Kyo13 on April 18, 2010, 12:06:00 AM
Seems like Freeboot (I don't know abou the new version release a few days ago) and XBReboot doesn't have same issues ....
I have a XBR Jtagged Jasper V4 ... For FFXIII I have copied all files from disc 2 and disc 3 on the disc 1 directory WITHOUT remplacing files ... So like I said before ... no one gives explanations about the modified XeX of FFXIII that comes out at this time .... I've installed it and use this ! From Disc1 to disc3 : NO PROBLEM : I didn't even seen any question about disc change ... but this modified XeX is useless for XBR ... Seems like only Freeboot users need this ... and seems like people that install games the same way have different issues .... so if people were telling if they have Freeboot or XBReboot ... I really think it will help understand things ....
But see all I say ... I've said it before ... Useless again ...
Post by: dacore84 on April 22, 2010, 02:23:00 PM
Post by: dacore84 on April 22, 2010, 04:14:00 PM
Post by: xmugen360 on April 23, 2010, 05:02:00 AM
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Post by: xmugen360 on April 23, 2010, 09:31:00 AM
lol i am a dumbass...was in wrong desktop dir(didnt realize i had more than one whateva...) files are merging now taking a bugger of awhile...
My plan is to basically merge all 3 of the soz0 and soz1 files into 2 large bins wish me luck...
woohoo that's done took awhile now copying to my large external hd...will keep you posted crossing fingers hope this works...one problem is I haven't played this game yet (watched my bud play The Medler Z and it looked sick as hell towards the end) I do have a copy of a friends save file to test if it works but it dont belong to my profile....
So far first problem I ran into is the soz0.bin file becomes a 9.8gb file and ubuntu errored out copying to my large external...I have access to a smaller usb drive which seems to be taking the file just fine...keep your fingers crossed...
This post has been edited by xmugen360: Apr 23 2010, 05:25 PM
Post by: xmugen360 on April 23, 2010, 10:34:00 AM
Post by: dacore84 on April 23, 2010, 12:59:00 PM
QUOTE(xmugen360 @ Apr 23 2010, 05:31 PM)
groan trying to follow instructions here: http://www.ubuntuhow...merge_bin_files to merge the star ocean bin files but ran into a snag says there is no such file or directory (lol but that is impossible) maybe someone else can try?
lol i am a dumbass...was in wrong desktop dir(didnt realize i had more than one whateva...) files are merging now taking a bugger of awhile...
My plan is to basically merge all 3 of the soz0 and soz1 files into 2 large bins wish me luck...
woohoo that's done took awhile now copying to my large external hd...will keep you posted crossing fingers hope this works...one problem is I haven't played this game yet (watched my bud play The Medler Z and it looked sick as hell towards the end) I do have a copy of a friends save file to test if it works but it dont belong to my profile....
So far first problem I ran into is the soz0.bin file becomes a 9.8gb file and ubuntu errored out copying to my large external...I have access to a smaller usb drive which seems to be taking the file just fine...keep your fingers crossed...
Hope it works for you! But is that possible to just merge those files like that? I used isobuster and opened the .bin file. Didn´t find anything but a popup came and said it could search for hidden or lost files or similar. Took a minute and then it actually find some content. I didn´t have any more time atm so I´m not sure if I can extract those files to a folder and do the same with the others .bin files and then combine them as one.
Post by: xmugen360 on April 23, 2010, 01:11:00 PM
I ended up with this
a 9.8gb soz0.bin file and a 7.1gb soz1.bin file Of course I am just assuming baed on naming convention and size of the xex that we should be combining or merging the similar name files...I could be totally wrong...but hwy it is an attempt
right now I am compressing them so I can get the files to a windows pc so I can ftp to the top loader...due to the file sizes I believe this is the only way....
If someone has access to an hfs external and access to ubuntu pls try method in link I posted...I honestly feel it would work...
Post by: dacore84 on April 23, 2010, 01:25:00 PM
QUOTE(xmugen360 @ Apr 23 2010, 09:11 PM)
thanks for wishing me luck...did you check out the link i posted? I guess the cat command in ubuntu is commonly used to combine bin files...this is what gave me the idea...of course we are not dealing with normal bin files but i did not have an error when I combined...
I ended up with this
a 9.8gb soz0.bin file and a 7.1gb soz1.bin file Of course I am just assuming baed on naming convention and size of the xex that we should be combining or merging the similar name files...I could be totally wrong...but hwy it is an attempt
right now I am compressing them so I can get the files to a windows pc so I can ftp to the top loader...due to the file sizes I believe this is the only way....
If someone has access to an hfs external and access to ubuntu pls try method in link I posted...I honestly feel it would work...
Fingers crossed!
Post by: xmugen360 on April 23, 2010, 09:57:00 PM
I still think someone with external large hd formatted to hfs would be fine buuut that is not me
still tinkering with files but as someone previously said this may involve extracting the file folders and manually editing the pathing to work on fat 32...
Post by: dacore84 on April 24, 2010, 05:04:00 AM
Otherwise, an application like Daemon Tools where you can mount a number of image files would probably fix it.
Post by: xmugen360 on April 25, 2010, 08:39:00 AM
Post by: p4r0l3 on April 27, 2010, 09:01:00 AM
Post by: xmugen360 on April 27, 2010, 03:19:00 PM
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Post by: dacore84 on April 28, 2010, 05:52:00 AM
Will hopefully be able to try it out in the weekend.
Post by: xmugen360 on April 28, 2010, 11:07:00 AM
Post by: heffe2001 on April 28, 2010, 12:15:00 PM
QUOTE(xmugen360 @ Apr 28 2010, 01:07 PM)
hmmph didnt appreciate the slow comment but i am allways willing to learn...now thing is how would i rebuild iso? just checked and wine doesnt run iso2god or xdvdmulleter? i am assuming i would use mullet then iso2god if someone know help am about to try later 2day files already extracted + merged
I'm going to go ahead and guess all this work with that particular game isn't going to work. You can't just basically cat 2 bin files together and make them work on the Xbox, the program needs to know where in that bin file the data it's looking for is at, depending on what disk it's on. The only way it works with games like ME2 and FF is the fact that the files are different on each disk, and the game is just looking in the location it started in for the files from the next disk. You'd need to totally re-write the code in the XEX file to look at the new datapoints on the larger datafile you've created (if it's accessing it directly), or use some other method of combining those files if they are some sort of file-system (something akin to a .zip or .rar file, a large container with multiple files in it). Until you figure out how to do either of those, you're pretty much just wasting time...
And your link, that's for combining a split up ISO file, not a generic bin data file, just not going to work...
Post by: dacore84 on April 28, 2010, 01:08:00 PM
QUOTE(xmugen360 @ Apr 28 2010, 07:07 PM)
hmmph didnt appreciate the slow comment but i am allways willing to learn...now thing is how would i rebuild iso? just checked and wine doesnt run iso2god or xdvdmulleter? i am assuming i would use mullet then iso2god if someone know help am about to try later 2day files already extracted + merged
Oh I´m so sorry. That comment was NOT directed to you. It was just meant as a funny ironic comment why we hadn´t thought of that before. It sounded obvious in my head when I wrote it but I guess it wasn´t then
I have merged the bin files as you did. Got the first one at 9.81 GB and the other one on 6.78 GB. Then used PowerISO to merge them as a .ISO file. But when I then use ISO2GOD I get an error message telling me that the it can´t locate the default.xex file. But the file is there so I guess we can´t use PowerISO then =/
QUOTE(heffe2001 @ Apr 28 2010, 08:15 PM)
I'm going to go ahead and guess all this work with that particular game isn't going to work. You can't just basically cat 2 bin files together and make them work on the Xbox, the program needs to know where in that bin file the data it's looking for is at, depending on what disk it's on. The only way it works with games like ME2 and FF is the fact that the files are different on each disk, and the game is just looking in the location it started in for the files from the next disk. You'd need to totally re-write the code in the XEX file to look at the new datapoints on the larger datafile you've created (if it's accessing it directly), or use some other method of combining those files if they are some sort of file-system (something akin to a .zip or .rar file, a large container with multiple files in it). Until you figure out how to do either of those, you're pretty much just wasting time...
And your link, that's for combining a split up ISO file, not a generic bin data file, just not going to work...
Yeah I was thinking of that a page ago also. I guess it will be problem when the .xex file is searching for a string on i.e. "row 12" on DVD2. That "row 12" will actually be a string of code from DVD1 since all 3 DVDs are merged as one file and there can only exist one "row 12" instead of 3 (one for each DVD with unique code)?
Post by: heffe2001 on April 28, 2010, 01:44:00 PM
Post by: dacore84 on April 28, 2010, 02:02:00 PM
QUOTE(heffe2001 @ Apr 28 2010, 09:44 PM)
Yeah, it'll be like trying to glue another person's head to your head to double your intelligence... It's not going to work, and you have to show for it is a bunch of wasted time (that and the other person will be pretty pissed, lol).
That sounds like something a couple of blondes would do..
Post by: xmugen360 on April 28, 2010, 03:22:00 PM
if you are so smart you post how to do it...lets wait..oh ok ur not...lets move on...
I am a positive person...so i try at least we learned something...
As far as why even try in this manner 2 reasons...
1. since bin file names are not different mayhaps the game wouldnt even notice the filesize difference it would just browse that filename find the data and load...this was just a theory...
2. I wouldnt mind doing all the work as far as repathing but everytime i try to extract said bins I have no luck....
heffe2001 if you really want to help can you suggest how to extract bins? otherwise you are just trolling negativity...i suggest looking for some blondes to help with that problem...
This post has been edited by xmugen360: Apr 28 2010, 10:23 PM
Post by: dacore84 on April 29, 2010, 12:23:00 AM
Post by: p4r0l3 on April 29, 2010, 07:22:00 AM
Post by: dacore84 on April 29, 2010, 08:20:00 AM
QUOTE(p4r0l3 @ Apr 29 2010, 03:22 PM)
CreateIsoGood should do the trick for creating a iso2god compatible ISO. However, with files this big, it doesn't seem to work. Too bad there's no Files2GoD app out there
Excellent, will try that! Thnx.
Post by: heffe2001 on April 29, 2010, 08:46:00 AM
QUOTE(xmugen360 @ Apr 28 2010, 05:22 PM)
sorry i am not a negative person so i think your talk is kinda defeatist...
if you are so smart you post how to do it...lets wait..oh ok ur not...lets move on...
I am a positive person...so i try at least we learned something...
As far as why even try in this manner 2 reasons...
1. since bin file names are not different mayhaps the game wouldnt even notice the filesize difference it would just browse that filename find the data and load...this was just a theory...
2. I wouldnt mind doing all the work as far as repathing but everytime i try to extract said bins I have no luck....
heffe2001 if you really want to help can you suggest how to extract bins? otherwise you are just trolling negativity...i suggest looking for some blondes to help with that problem...
Hmm, first time I've ever been accused of trolling, lol. You want a suggestion on how to proceed? Reverse engineer/decompile the games xex file, find the code for handling the bin files, then either rewrite it so that it'll take your larger files, and igure out how the .bin files are packaged so you can combine then with out trying to concatenate them together.
And it's not being negative, it's being realistic. You apparently have no idea how most programs handle data, as I don't know any that would allow you to combine 2 completely different files into one by just copying them together aside from a plain .txt file. My post was more to save you from wasting your time and raising your frustration level.
In order to 'extract' any useful data from those bin files, you'll need the code from the xex file to see how it's accessed. Just because it's in .bin format doesn't make it an iso image that you can open with something like cdmage. Bin just means that it's a binary file. It may not even be any type of regular container, the software may just know that the data for x is in absolute position y in said bin file, with no headers or anything marking where or what that data is in the .bin file at all.
In reality, some multi-disk games like this won't be able to be run correctly until the xbox firmware is modded to allow something like daemon-tools (not specifically that program, but the xbox-equivalent) to mount an ISO file when needed. I honestly don't see this happening any time soon, but you never know. At least with games like ME2 and FF, we can make those work, so you win some, you loose some..
Oh, and calling someone a troll just because they tell you something you don't want to hear, pretty bad in my opinion, lol.
Post by: xmugen360 on April 30, 2010, 05:58:00 AM
ha ha took the stick out ur but huh...
at least you posted something constructive...please reread ur posts to see how you sounded trust me you didnt bother me in the least...if i offended you i am sorry but i rather you contribute not beat people down...
I think you missed my point about the filenames for the bins being the same on each disc(it seems to be like this for all these games coincidence i think not in fact they would have just used one bin file for each disc if it werent for the filesize limitations that we must also deal with) so if data merged it would look up that filename and find the data inside and load
if someone for the love of dear god would try an hfs external which would not have this filesize limit i bet it would work...
i have a great deal of knowledge about software...please dont assume...i do hear your point about it being just binary data...this is why i posted above method...methinks this was done to combat piracy honestly but i also feel it can be beaten...
smart japaneese coders i tell ya what if you look they seem to be the ones using bins in their multi disc games resonance of fate same way as well seems to be the square/enix route on this
Post by: heffe2001 on April 30, 2010, 09:36:00 AM
If the .bin files are some sort of container, I'm guessing the header of each file gives the locations of the data in them, so combing 2 files probably won't work if that's the case (you'd need to recreate the header with the locations of ALL the files in the bin file, not just the locations of the files from the first bin file).
And I'm not trying to beat anybody down, just attempting to save you some frustration & time. I'd much rather be PLAYING a game than beating my head on the desk trying to figure out how to combine it. I'm guessing to do it right, you'd need a dev kit box, and work backwards on the xex file from there.
Post by: xmugen360 on April 30, 2010, 11:40:00 AM
unfortunately for some reason my large hd is locked to fat 32 (i havent the slightest why) and to be honest it started of ntfs and I had a devil of a time changing it to fat it is a 1tb wd my book essential also it is full of like 300 gb of games which i dont have a backup of so I am scared to ruin it now...filling it up with with games i want to save from my disc collection is whole reason i am interested in this which led me here...i have a smaller 16gb hp v125w flash drive but i havent been able to figure out how to format it to hfs...think maybe i need to make a leopard boot disc or something i tried in ubuntu linux i have the option but it just refuses to format...right now i have been toying with infinite undiscovery since it is the smallest of these today i tried using 360 scrubber to shrink the iso then extract but the files are still too large...
no way to ftp to hd cause ftp fails when you reach the 4gb limit i remember reading on xbox hacker that that was just a problem with windows but that is clearly hogwash after my experience with this...
off to play nier..
This post has been edited by xmugen360: Apr 30 2010, 06:40 PM
Post by: heffe2001 on May 01, 2010, 05:41:00 PM
I think the real fix for games like this will be a firmware hack/mod that will allow playing games from ISO files, not sure what it'd take to get to this point though..
Post by: prelude on July 15, 2010, 01:20:00 PM
Post by: selyb on July 30, 2010, 05:23:00 AM
Regarding the FF XIII files, I'm willing to bet that the people that had trouble with it had the img.key from Disc 2 or 3 and the people who had no trouble had no img.key or had the one from disc 1 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
This post has been edited by selyb: Jul 30 2010, 12:25 PM
Post by: sirbongalot on October 03, 2010, 06:53:00 AM
Anybody know if there's a solution or any idea how or when the 2nd DVD comes into play ?
Post by: Lurkin on October 03, 2010, 11:24:00 AM
QUOTE(sirbongalot @ Oct 3 2010, 08:53 AM)
Recently Castlevania: Lords Of Shadow just got released and it comes with 2 DVDs.
Anybody know if there's a solution or any idea how or when the 2nd DVD comes into play ?
I am looking into it now. It appears it may be as simple as the FF13 combine where you extract the discs and then overwrite the files with the first disc. It appears that the files are the same except the video/movie files. Which is pretty much how FF was.
I'll report back when I know more, not sure how far in I would have to play to find out. It may need or benefit from the use of a patched xex file like we had for FF
Post by: Hausmanis on October 07, 2010, 05:50:00 AM
Lovely, im experimenting with it as we speak, i can just get it to boot but when it tries to enter the game it asks for both dvd1 and 2.
Let me know if you solve it, would gladly appriciate it
Post by: SilentBob1638 on October 08, 2010, 08:56:00 PM
GOD is currently not working properly. You'd have to rip/replace some *.bik files (videos) to reduce GOD size. You can take the smallest video file for duplication/renaming. Around 4GB less (=8GB total size) should give a proper 1-DVD size that should be valid.
This post has been edited by SilentBob1638: Oct 9 2010, 03:59 AM
Post by: f0xrolder on October 10, 2010, 12:10:00 PM
Also curious if any 1 has figure out Infinite Undiscovery or if its possible at all??? All files seem to b exactly the same on both discs would b great if its possible tho.
Post by: dacore84 on October 13, 2010, 03:18:00 AM
Dunno if it works though since I haven´t tried it myself but whereever I read it it seems to have worked.
Post by: Hype on October 13, 2010, 04:49:00 PM
For Jtaggers wanting to merge both discs into one folder, assuming you have extracted everything... This is what I did and so far it's worked:
1) Extract both discs to their own folders, say Disc1 and Disc2
2) In the Disc1 folder, rename the Data00.packed and Data01.packed to Data001.packed and Data011.packed
3) In the Disc2 folder, rename Data00.packed and Data01.packed to Data002.packed and Data012.packed
4) Copy the contents of the Disc2 folder to the Disc1 folder, you should now have four dataxx.packed files.
5) Go into a command prompt window, navigate to your Disc1 folder and type 'copy /b Data001.packed+Data002.packed Data00.packed' (without the ' marks)
6) In the same command prompt, type 'copy /b Data011.packed+Data012.packed Data01.packed' (again without the ' marks)
This will give you a Data00.packed and Data01.packed that are twice the size of the originals, with the data from both discs merged properly. You can now delete the Data001, Data002, Data011 and Data012.packed files.
Note: I didn't come up with this, nor do I have any clue where the original sauce is either... Friend on IRC told me to try it, so far it seems to work fine.
Source: forums.xbox360-content.com
Post by: SilentBob1638 on October 13, 2010, 05:14:00 PM
I already told you the proper way.
Post by: ravendrow on October 14, 2010, 03:41:00 PM
QUOTE(SilentBob1638 @ Oct 13 2010, 04:14 PM)
Original source is from a private forum. It was already rejected and confirmed not working. Even in the forum you linked to it was confirmed ending in a loop.
I already told you the proper way.
i can confirm silent bob is right i didn't even get an insert second disc screen it just kept on loading
Post by: keine on October 19, 2010, 09:12:00 PM
Post by: asher_pa on December 31, 2010, 02:04:00 AM
I know that it's little late but someone can help me with the "Castlevania Lords Of Shadow" game... - How can I put it on JTAG ???
Post by: apopberz on January 19, 2011, 08:44:00 PM
Post by: danked on January 22, 2011, 09:24:00 AM
Post by: dOOfus30 on January 23, 2011, 03:01:00 AM
QUOTE(danked @ Jan 22 2011, 08:24 AM)
dead space 2 also comes on 2 discs, I wonder if that will work the same as other games
i got this from somewhere else, but i haven't tested it yet...
1) extract files from cpx-ds2a.iso to "Dead Space 2"
2) rename bigfile0.viv -> bigfile0_0.viv and bigfile1.viv->bigfile1_0.viv
3) extract files from cpx-ds2b.iso (you only need bigfile0.viv and bigfile1.viv ) to "Dead Space 2"
3) rename bigfile0.viv -> bigfile0_1.viv and bigfile1.viv ->bigfile1_1.viv
Then use binary copy in command prompt (in linux dd should do the trick) to combine bigfiles from dvd1 and dvd2 to one bigfile:
4) open command prompt and navigate to the to "Dead Space 2" folder
5) command: "copy /b bigfile0_0.viv + bigfile0_1.viv bigfile0.viv /b"
6) command: "copy /b bigfile1_0.viv + bigfile1_1.viv bigfile1.viv /b"
7) remove bigfile0_0.viv, bigfile0_1.viv, bigfile1_0.viv and bigfile1_1.viv
Post by: 69218 on January 24, 2011, 03:02:00 AM
CODE
http://www.elitemodscene.com/index.php/topic/1124-dead-space-2-disc-swap/
Post by: apopberz on January 27, 2011, 06:14:00 PM
I tried to get a list together of working solutions I gathered from this thread (http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=727597) but I guess I shouldn't be starting a new thread when this one exists, it's just that it's a lot to read to get the quick answers. I don't seem to be able to delete it now anyways so I'll just let it die, plus not being able to go back and edit old posts kind of makes this sort of concept impractical.