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Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on January 15, 2010, 02:41:00 PM
hi, can u guys tell me if a homebrew media player for xbx360 is possible allready?

something simple just to play mkv 1080p + DTS with .srt subtitles.

do u think this is possible? if so, why no one did it allready? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

thank you

i don't ask for XBMC yet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) cuz i know it's gonna be a long way till we get some beta.
but something just to play media?
you pro's work hard in other stuff, is a media player much harder?

This post has been edited by hfmls: Jan 15 2010, 10:42 PM
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: m00nstone on January 15, 2010, 07:04:00 PM
I'm disappointed that there hasn't been a response to this. A good homebrew media player for the 360 is all I dream about these days. XBMC360 would be... gush!
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on January 19, 2010, 02:25:00 PM
i dont ask for anything like XBMC (yet) smile.gif

but something simple like a file browser and opening mkv and .srt with same name

please?


btw: why aren't XBMC guys working on x360 yet? :S
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: danked on January 19, 2010, 03:02:00 PM
I don't know if we need a new media player or maybe just hack the media update to add codex, or improve functionally?
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: krizalid on January 19, 2010, 04:26:00 PM
QUOTE(danked @ Jan 19 2010, 05:02 PM) *

I don't know if we need a new media player or maybe just hack the media update to add codex, or improve functionally?


I agree with this, but we also need a way to access files on hdd1.

Like me, I don't like having a usb something attached to my xbox. I like it all from it's own HDD.

It looses esthetics.  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on January 19, 2010, 05:18:00 PM
yes add codecs to original!!
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: danked on January 19, 2010, 05:36:00 PM
QUOTE(krizalid @ Jan 19 2010, 05:26 PM) View Post

I agree with this, but we also need a way to access files on hdd1.

Like me, I don't like having a usb something attached to my xbox. I like it all from it's own HDD.

It looses esthetics.  rolleyes.gif



I just stream the files off my PC but even with Tversity it wont play everything.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on January 19, 2010, 06:04:00 PM
it's not the same thing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

it's not the same thing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: DirtyH on January 20, 2010, 02:47:00 AM
QUOTE(hfmls @ Jan 19 2010, 10:25 PM) View Post

btw: why aren't XBMC guys working on x360 yet? :S


read here, for reasons why there won't be a XMBC360 from the XBMC team

http://xbmc.org/foru...ead.php?t=65801





Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: joohan on January 20, 2010, 05:59:00 AM
Has anyone looked into crosscompiling libavcodec with the SDK?

If this is done, then a basic mediaplayer should only be a 2 day job..
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on January 20, 2010, 07:55:00 AM
well if no XBMC.

can someone add codecs to media player/media center?
or make a new homebrew appz with most used codecs?

xvid
ac3
dts
container (mkv)
x264


.srt subtitles.


that's what i am expecting for a long time ago! smile.gif please.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: wackwick on January 20, 2010, 08:48:00 AM
Well you guys are fogetting about something i think. One one side, not only would we have to add codecs to the 360 media player, but for example, we could not just transfer Mp3 to our 360 HD because the media player only detects files that are in microsofts proprietary container format... this is a waste of time becuase we would have to convert all our mp3s to wma and put them in their strange xbox360 container thingy, then modify the media file at all that crap... pain in the @$$...

i used to have hd video from xbox live on my 360 hd, but unfortunatly i deleted the file so i have not been able to conduct an analysis of how the 360 dealt with HD video files... but i have a feeling that they were also on a proprietary container and format... i think we all want to avoid having to modify the files before transferring them to 360...

the solution is clearly a new media player built from scratch or a port... maybe port mplayer or vlc media player.... i have been looking into it, but im really starting from zero so i get discouraged thinking someone will release something soon and i will have worked for nothing... but i may still get into it just to learn....

the 360 audio player also is TERRIBLE!!! i have been wondering why ms made such a terrible player... every button is so huge, playlist and song management is terrible... so we really would need something new... codecs really wont do...
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: Mr.RedRing on January 20, 2010, 10:31:00 AM
I think this is a bigger job then you guys think...
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: joohan on January 20, 2010, 10:34:00 AM
You can play standard mp3 files, and you can play quite a few codecs with the videoplayer. But no mkv support..

But still, I agree that a new mediaplayer should be built.

I will try to see if I can get libavcodec to compile under the SDK tonight. If that works out the rest should be quite straight forward..
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: ][UNREAL][ on January 20, 2010, 08:01:00 PM
Rather than use the original x360 HDD or a USB device, will use the LAN to watch movies!
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on January 21, 2010, 03:05:00 PM
QUOTE(joohan @ Jan 20 2010, 05:34 PM) *

You can play standard mp3 files, and you can play quite a few codecs with the videoplayer. But no mkv support..

But still, I agree that a new mediaplayer should be built.

I will try to see if I can get libavcodec to compile under the SDK tonight. If that works out the rest should be quite straight forward..

thank you very much (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
please do that.


.srt support
mkv x264 avi xvid divx DTS AC3 MP3

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: ][UNREAL][ on January 21, 2010, 06:23:00 PM
QUOTE(hfmls @ Jan 21 2010, 08:05 PM) View Post

thank you very much smile.gif
please do that.
.srt support
mkv x264 avi xvid divx DTS AC3 MP3

smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif


And LAN suport!  biggrin.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: Vejita on January 21, 2010, 07:38:00 PM
One step at a time rolleyes.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: xlinkx on January 21, 2010, 09:19:00 PM
I thought mkv is already supported on the 360 for streaming with win7.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on January 21, 2010, 09:36:00 PM
stream and transcode sucks :S
native codec is way better
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: xlinkx on January 21, 2010, 10:14:00 PM
QUOTE(hfmls @ Jan 22 2010, 06:36 AM) View Post

stream and transcode sucks :S
native codec is way better


You can get 1080p quality natively with streaming.  I'm streaming mkv to my ps3 with no quality loss,  although I had to use mkv2vob to convert.  I haven't tried streaming mkv on the 360 yet.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on January 22, 2010, 02:42:00 PM
i understand that my friend smile.gif

but minutes lost converting or demuxing something. wouldn't u trade that for a native mkv srt dts x264 codec player?
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: ][UNREAL][ on January 22, 2010, 07:06:00 PM
QUOTE(hfmls @ Jan 22 2010, 07:42 PM) View Post

i understand that my friend smile.gif

but minutes lost converting or demuxing something. wouldn't u trade that for a native mkv srt dts x264 codec player?


News about the libavcodec?
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: joohan on January 23, 2010, 12:54:00 PM
QUOTE
[UNREAL][' date='Jan 23 2010, 03:06 AM' post='4622714']
News about the libavcodec?


I am looking into compiling it.

Most of the issues can be resolved by creating replacements for some missing headers.

One big problem right now is C99 designated initializers.

There exists 100+ of these types of struct initializers:

------------C99 type -----------
AVCodec eightsvx_exp_decoder = {
  .name           = "8svx_exp",
  .type           = CODEC_TYPE_AUDIO,
  .id             = CODEC_ID_8SVX_EXP,
  .priv_data_size = sizeof (EightSvxContext),
  .init           = eightsvx_decode_init,
  .decode         = eightsvx_decode_frame,
  .long_name      = NULL_IF_CONFIG_SMALL("8SVX exponential"),
};
-----------------------

And vc2005 doesn't support this, I probably have to create a script that converts all of these initializers to standard C89 style.

Info on msdn about this issue:
http://social.msdn.m...0-2614b333e9e0/

Does someone have any other solution to this issue in mind? Manually patching >>100 .c files is not an option in my mind..

This guy has done it for windows, but he is using the intel compiler that is more c99 friendly
See http://www.arawix.co.....-VS2005).aspx

Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on January 23, 2010, 01:22:00 PM
can other guys with aknowledgement help please? smile.gif

i would really love to see this smile.gif please
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: ][UNREAL][ on January 23, 2010, 09:33:00 PM
QUOTE(hfmls @ Jan 23 2010, 06:22 PM) View Post

can other guys with aknowledgement help please? smile.gif

i would really love to see this smile.gif please


I have no knowledge about it, but would be happy to help!  wink.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: joohan on January 24, 2010, 04:53:00 PM
Status right now:

I have made a script that fixes about 50% of the C99 reliability..

from a cygwin env do a:
$ ./configure  --disable-asm --disable-ffplay --disable-decoders --disable-filters --disable-encoders -
-disable-hwaccels --disable-muxers --disable-demuxers --disable-parsers --disable-bsfs --arch=ppc64 --d
isable-altivec --enable-w32threads --enable-decoder=h264 --enable-demuxer=matroska --enable-demuxer=h264 --enable-demuxer=avi --enable-decoder=mpeg4 --enable-parser=h264 --enable-parser=mpeg4video --disable-outdevs --disable-indevs --disable-devices > configure_log

This will create a config.h that has only the things I really need enabled. (No sound yet but that is a later problem)
patch Makefile under libavcodec with:

showme:
        echo $(OBJS:.o=.c)

This will dump out all the c files that are needed.
Remove the rest from the dir, and add the remaining c files in the IDE
Add all headers under libavcodec and libavutils to your proj (in separate dirs)
Change the projects settings and add ";HAVE_AV_CONFIG_H;_POS_SOURCE" Under "Preprocessor definitions"
Add "." to additional include directories

Hit "compile solution"
Now I ends up with 82errors and 250warnings. These are C99 extensions that the STUPID microsoft compiler don't like..

Anyone willing to pitch in? send me a pm and I send you the files I got at the moment.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on January 25, 2010, 12:48:00 AM
you're going great smile.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: matt186 on January 25, 2010, 08:41:00 AM
Not sure how many of us can help you technically but if its just going through raw data and changing values, there is an army of poeple im sure that are willing to help with some guidance
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: ][UNREAL][ on January 27, 2010, 07:27:00 PM
Hey guys, news?  pop.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: Q3A-TaNK on January 28, 2010, 01:24:00 AM
What about looking into MPlayer sourcecode? They ported more than one verison of it on the Wii with great success, especially the Christmas Edition with YouTube support. Its not XBMC but I say its probally still worth it for SAMBA sharing, Basic Youtube, etc video playback, hell even Shoutcast! TAKE THAT LAST.FM and Zune Marketplace!  biggrin.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on January 28, 2010, 01:41:00 AM
yes i noticed that too, works really well in WII.

can u guys check that out?

mplayer would work justtt fine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

pls pls pls
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: Drefsab on January 28, 2010, 03:16:00 AM
Isnt that how XBMC on the old xbox came out about? They wrapped a nice front end around mplayer and then added features bit by bit to give an awsome dash? smile.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on January 28, 2010, 03:48:00 AM
lol i don't remember (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
if so, that's the way to go.
anyone in the mood to pickup mediaplayer and compile it for xbox360?

should be "easy" ?
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: Fragreaver on January 28, 2010, 04:19:00 AM
Could the wii sources provide any help with that? Since it's basically the same arch?
tmbinc ported Snes9x from Wii/GC to XeLL quite fast...
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on January 28, 2010, 04:24:00 AM
yes i noticed that too. some WII stuff is "similar" to xbox360.
should be no problem.

mkv+dts+.srt here we go smile.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: joohan on January 28, 2010, 06:28:00 AM
QUOTE(hfmls @ Jan 28 2010, 12:24 PM) View Post

yes i noticed that too. some WII stuff is "similar" to xbox360.
should be no problem.

mkv+dts+.srt here we go smile.gif


Sure, Mplayer can be compiled to ppc64 with gcc with minimum effort.
But you can not create xex with gcc. You need the microsoft compiler which don't implement C99.
And sure, you could patch away all C99 specifics manually (a couple of hundred patches at least) but then you will be stuck in that exakt version of mplayer/libavcodec or whatever.

My initial thought was to simply just "compile libavcodec with VS2005", but it turned out to be something different.

BTW, libavcodec is a big part of mplayer.

So right now I am thinking of either making a script that fixes most of the C99 stuff ( With some help, thanks biggrin.gif ).

Or some compile "magic", compile libavcodec with llvm-gcc, and then use the "c-backend" of llvm and output generic c-code that VS2005 should understand

Or a different trick, compile libavcodec with gcc for powerpc64 and just load it into memory from a xex compiled with vs2005. This will require some "glue" code to be able to call functions between VS2005 compiled code and gcc. I have not researched anything on the details about this, specifically the calling conventions for functions might be a problem.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: xboxbman on January 28, 2010, 08:39:00 AM
QUOTE(joohan @ Jan 28 2010, 08:28 AM) View Post

Sure, Mplayer can be compiled to ppc64 with gcc with minimum effort.
But you can not create xex with gcc. You need the microsoft compiler which don't implement C99.
And sure, you could patch away all C99 specifics manually (a couple of hundred patches at least) but then you will be stuck in that exakt version of mplayer/libavcodec or whatever.

My initial thought was to simply just "compile libavcodec with VS2005", but it turned out to be something different.

BTW, libavcodec is a big part of mplayer.

So right now I am thinking of either making a script that fixes most of the C99 stuff ( With some help, thanks biggrin.gif ).

Or some compile "magic", compile libavcodec with llvm-gcc, and then use the "c-backend" of llvm and output generic c-code that VS2005 should understand

Or a different trick, compile libavcodec with gcc for powerpc64 and just load it into memory from a xex compiled with vs2005. This will require some "glue" code to be able to call functions between VS2005 compiled code and gcc. I have not researched anything on the details about this, specifically the calling conventions for functions might be a problem.


i think i mght be able to assist.  Unlike the rest of these slackjawed gawkers with their hands out, I have years of coding experience, and am willing to roll up my sleeves and do some work to contribute to scene.  Let me know some specifics of what needs to get done, and I can do my best to help out.

I have heard rumor there is a patch out that will get the sdk working with vs2008, I'll see if I can track it down.  If we can get that, it should make our lives a little easier.   In the mean time, let's figure out a definitive direction to work.  It's nice to have options, but it is best to focus.

rant
To the 2 pages of people asking why this isn't out yet, and when is it being released, or how the progress is:  Pick up a fuckin book and learn how to contribute.  Asking when something will be released is not helping the scene.  Learning how to code will.  I acknowledge I have not released anything, but I am at least trying.  I started coding when the xbox1 first got hacked, because i wanted to contribute.  Put down the controllers and pick up coding book. /rant
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on January 28, 2010, 09:42:00 AM
wich language is the x360 homebrew coded?
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: node21 on January 28, 2010, 09:53:00 AM
QUOTE(hfmls @ Jan 28 2010, 11:42 AM) View Post

wich language is the x360 homebrew coded?


C++
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on January 28, 2010, 09:54:00 AM
lame question... studying C++
when i "learn" C++, C++ type of coding , i assume is the same in all plataforms? PC, xbox360, wii, etc etc?

only compilers change?

code is the same?
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: eyric101 on January 28, 2010, 10:09:00 AM
QUOTE(hfmls @ Jan 28 2010, 11:54 AM) View Post

lame question... studying C++
when i "learn" C++, C++ type of coding , i assume is the same in all plataforms? PC, xbox360, wii, etc etc?

only compilers change?

code is the same?

well the library files and how to use them change
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: node21 on January 28, 2010, 10:18:00 AM
QUOTE(eyric101 @ Jan 28 2010, 12:09 PM) *

well the library files and how to use them change


Not only that...there is a huge leap from raw C++ to event driven programming...and once you grok that, you have to figure out Microsoft's whole framework and the way they use macros all over the place to create code behind the scenes...  That being said, there are enough working tutorials out there to assist greatly.

Then, there's the details like direct 3d, and XUI.  Are we having fun yet?  Yes?  Now go learn about multi-threading!  ;-)
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on January 28, 2010, 10:22:00 AM
i'm gonna go watch PORN.
i got shot before i started to walk heheh, u guys keep up the goodwork

This post has been edited by hfmls: Jan 28 2010, 06:23 PM
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: miah1269 on January 28, 2010, 05:55:00 PM
I have taken 3 semesters of C++  an feel that I have a pretty good grip on the Basics but I am far from a seasoned coding veteran. If you don't mind holding my hand a little I would love to help. Just let me know.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: krizalid on January 28, 2010, 11:16:00 PM
Has anyone thought of maybe using the codecs already installed by the Optional Media Update, which do allow some of the most popular (common) formats out there, and simply code a launcher so we may store our files in our hdd and not depend on USB to watch them?


Also; does anyone know how to properly make a video CON file using Le Fluffie?

Thanks.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: 0ctavion on January 28, 2010, 11:16:00 PM
I'm actually a little shocked by the smugness of the XBMC crew, Pioneers back in the Xbox1 era, would expect some loyalty to the BOX successor.  

While there right to an extent that a HTPC would be of same cost to build outright and probably better suited, the software would definatly be a boon to the scene since so much hardware is already in place.  But there priorities lye elsewhere now it seems.

I'm sure someone is probably already working on a media player project for the 360, I hope we see it soon.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on January 29, 2010, 12:52:00 AM
QUOTE(krizalid @ Jan 29 2010, 06:16 AM) View Post

Has anyone thought of maybe using the codecs already installed by the Optional Media Update, which do allow some of the most popular (common) formats out there, and simply code a launcher so we may store our files in our hdd and not depend on USB to watch them?
Also; does anyone know how to properly make a video CON file using Le Fluffie?

Thanks.

yes maybe we can work with this too.
too bad .srt is not possible :S subtitles.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: SupaDawg on January 29, 2010, 06:39:00 PM
QUOTE(0ctavion @ Jan 29 2010, 07:16 AM) View Post

I'm actually a little shocked by the smugness of the XBMC crew, Pioneers back in the Xbox1 era, would expect some loyalty to the BOX successor.  

While there right to an extent that a HTPC would be of same cost to build outright and probably better suited, the software would definatly be a boon to the scene since so much hardware is already in place.  But there priorities lye elsewhere now it seems.

I'm sure someone is probably already working on a media player project for the 360, I hope we see it soon.


It's not smugness, its just a simple question of worth.

This 360 hack is available to a VERY small number of users. The resources required to get it working on 360 would be far more than it would be worth for the team.

That said, nothing is preventing anyone else from doing it. The XBMC source is public.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: tweak3r on January 30, 2010, 12:33:00 AM
QUOTE(SupaDawg @ Jan 30 2010, 02:39 AM) *

It's not smugness, its just a simple question of worth.

This 360 hack is available to a VERY small number of users. The resources required to get it working on 360 would be far more than it would be worth for the team.

That said, nothing is preventing anyone else from doing it. The XBMC source is public.


Yeah, you're absolutely right... people should concentrate on f***** up the 8xxx Kernel.
Then we would also see a xbmc port.

This post has been edited by tweak3r: Jan 30 2010, 08:34 AM
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: [Prophet] on January 30, 2010, 10:00:00 PM
QUOTE(0ctavion @ Jan 29 2010, 08:16 AM) View Post

I'm actually a little shocked by the smugness of the XBMC crew, Pioneers back in the Xbox1 era, would expect some loyalty to the BOX successor.  

While there right to an extent that a HTPC would be of same cost to build outright and probably better suited, the software would definatly be a boon to the scene since so much hardware is already in place.  But there priorities lye elsewhere now it seems.

I'm sure someone is probably already working on a media player project for the 360, I hope we see it soon.

It's hardly smugness.  It's called being a realist.  Porting it to xbox 360 would take 100's of man hours, potentially 1000's, just to even get it running with a reduced feature set.  XBMC has come a long way since they decided to make linux their main development platform.  The codebase and feature set is massive, why would they essentially want to take a step backward to support a platform that only a small fraction of 360 owners can use?

I wouldn't want them wasting their time on developing it, a HTPC does the job far better, is quieter and has no chance of having irreparable hardware failure.  Especially when you consider the 360 already has support for most basic formats.

The code is GPL'ed, anyone who wishes to port it, can.  I personally wouldn't use XBMC if it were on the 360 anyway, the xbox was a great media device for the time but now you can get network capable media devices capable of full 1080p for around USD$100.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on February 02, 2020, 11:48:00 PM
yes we have hd players for 100$

the thing is, if we CAN, why not do it?

i don't want XBMC either, it would takes months!


we could start by something much more simple like a mplayer port
with a *shitty* interface

and then evolve from there.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: Drefsab on February 03, 2020, 04:35:00 AM
well im certainly no programmer but id love to help out as soon as im able, Im going to be exploiting my box this week so will get that done then do some reading and see how I can help.

I certainly think the mplayer route is the best one, porting XBMC just isnt really worth the time at the moment.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on February 02, 2010, 10:20:00 AM
thank you very much!!!

this is good right guys?


can u guys try a simple player? i don't care if it's ugly smile.gif

just for testing please.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: pirichios on February 02, 2010, 10:48:00 AM
QUOTE(hfmls @ Feb 2 2010, 07:20 PM) View Post

thank you very much!!!

this is good right guys?
can u guys try a simple player? i don't care if it's ugly smile.gif

just for testing please.

OH YES IT IS!
congratulations Joohan. It seems a homebrew media player is not far off!  biggrin.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: Mr.RedRing on February 02, 2010, 11:05:00 AM
Oh god, here we go.  Another god in the scene smile.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: ddxcb on February 02, 2010, 01:06:00 PM
XBMC lost its name.

"XBOX MEDIA CENTER"

not "LUNUX MEDIA CENTER" LMC

not "WINDOWS MEDIA CENTER" WMC

this makes me sad dry.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: tweak3r on February 02, 2010, 03:29:00 PM
The first step is done...  pop.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on February 02, 2010, 03:49:00 PM
so guys, is this the way to go?

can you guys confirm that, with this we can in a couple of days watch avi + .srt ?
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: Drefsab on February 02, 2010, 07:03:00 PM
I think some people are seriously under estimating the complexity of the work that joohan has done so far, hes made a significant step forward but we dont even know if this C89 work around will work smoothly, the other work needs to be done before testing.

I certainly wouldnt be expecting this to be the work of just a couple of days thats for sure.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on February 02, 2010, 09:14:00 PM
yes, we don't expect a stable release just now smile.gif
just something to test to know it's possible.

can somebody now help joohan?

probably hard part is done?

now all pros can get together and figure this out? smile.gif

i don't understand why so little interest in a media player.
are u guys forgetting 1080p? and xbox processor?



we could play games and watch HD movies with DTS and optical cable? smile.gif don't u think it's cool
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: [Prophet] on February 03, 2010, 12:13:00 AM
QUOTE(hfmls @ Feb 3 2010, 06:14 AM) View Post

yes, we don't expect a stable release just now smile.gif
just something to test to know it's possible.

can somebody now help joohan?

probably hard part is done?

now all pros can get together and figure this out? smile.gif

i don't understand why so little interest in a media player.
are u guys forgetting 1080p? and xbox processor?
we could play games and watch HD movies with DTS and optical cable? smile.gif don't u think it's cool

Getting from a library compiling, to creating an application that can utilize it, irrespective of whether it is stable or not is a "few days" task, especially when the library is the size of libavcodec, and not tested
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on February 03, 2010, 12:24:00 AM
smile.gif cool


is someone trying this allready?

johaan, what r u working on now?

if u need any testing pls say smile.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: BladeWing on February 03, 2010, 04:23:00 AM
I cant program for shit, i'm still learning on a regular computer, and so i'd probably RRoD my xbox by accident!!!! But i can also beta test if Johaan would like that smile.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on February 03, 2010, 05:25:00 AM
joohan maybe this can help you out in the debug stuff?


http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=704915
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: Zeze21 on February 03, 2010, 04:08:00 PM
Please to all those who have something in the pipline regarding a sort of media center/multi media supported dash, please take hardware additions into consideration! Think about it just for one second:
Ability to exchange the standard dvd drive with a bluray (or add an external one)
Ability to add a HDTV Usb receiver stick. (with support of softcams emulation recording etc)
just imagine: the 360 able playing blurays and hdtv (given the cost of the drive and stick you would get the ultimate media machine for 400 bucks. less even when the drives and sticks get cheaper)
if you then take into consideration what natal might be able to do... you enter the room natal recognizes your face and mood and starts playing music accordingly then later that day natal sees you and turn on the tv chan of your favorite show that runs that night.
I know it's hard I know it's a lot of work but the result would be awesome.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on February 03, 2010, 04:40:00 PM
please leave those posts for about 1month biggrin.gif


right now i just want to play a simple avi + srt smile.gif



joohan how is it going? tongue.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: pirichios on February 03, 2010, 06:18:00 PM
guys let the author try his best with what he is currently working on. A simple media player. in reality requesting heavy features and expectating crazy features within a month is unrealistic. let him finish with whatever his goals are. If it grows from there... then it will be a different story
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: Zeze21 on February 04, 2010, 03:16:00 AM
i am not saying to include all those features right from the start. (i am sorry if this was not clear) All i am saying is it would be great if any type of media dash/app would be in future customizeable in a sense that drivers etc could be 'easily' implemented. That is all. Again I am sorry if I sounded like a lil kid in disney world.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on February 04, 2010, 05:00:00 AM
after we have a media player using mplayer or like joohan is making.

i think all source code will be provided.
and then we could have xexmenu and freedash and ingeneous with movie player (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: wackwick on February 04, 2010, 02:23:00 PM
Good work Joohan, ive gained some insight into what your doing despite being a complete noob to c++ programming. I have a noobish question, i know the answer would most like be no way... but do you think it would be possible to compile the the linux kernel in SDK so we could have an OS on 360??

actually now that i think about it, i guess once weve loaded the XBR dash theres already a kernel in place and we couldnt really run one on top of that?? the thing is currently linux on 360 is very weak, we dont get full speed CPU or GPU functions, and i was just thinking if maybe its possible to run a xex linux of some sort... just wondering...

EDIT: actually now that i thought about it, isnt Xell a linux kernel itself?? is it just a limited one? would there be a way to compile Xell in SDK and have it run from XBR?? really noobish questions i guess...

This post has been edited by wackwick: Feb 4 2010, 11:04 PM
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: tornado89 on February 04, 2010, 04:14:00 PM
QUOTE(wackwick @ Feb 4 2010, 11:23 PM) View Post

Good work Joohan, ive gained some insight into what your doing despite being a complete noob to c++ programming. I have a noobish question, i know the answer would most like be no way... but do you think it would be possible to compile the the linux kernel in SDK so we could have an OS on 360??

actually now that i think about it, i guess once weve loaded the XBR dash theres already a kernel in place and we couldnt really run one on top of that?? the thing is currently linux on 360 is very weak, we dont get full speed CPU or GPU functions, and i was just thinking if maybe its possible to run a xex linux of some sort... just wondering...

EDIT: actually now that i thought about it, isnt Xell a linux kernel itself?? is it just a limited one? would there be a way to compile Xell in SDK and have it run from XBR?? really noobish questions i guess...


Xell = Xell Linux Loader ...
It's not a kernel ...
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on February 04, 2010, 04:50:00 PM
anyone working on this other than joohan?

i thought there were some pros in media player stuff too other than xbmc hehe biggrin.gif

come on guys, show up.
and donations will rain.

50€ from me tongue.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: ][UNREAL][ on February 04, 2010, 06:26:00 PM
QUOTE(hfmls @ Feb 4 2010, 09:50 PM) View Post

anyone working on this other than joohan?

i thought there were some pros in media player stuff too other than xbmc hehe biggrin.gif

come on guys, show up.
and donations will rain.

50€ from me tongue.gif


Yeah!!! Donations for the team!!!
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on February 05, 2010, 02:06:00 PM
guys keep us posted please smile.gif
even if no progress.

i want help, how can i help? biggrin.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on February 07, 2010, 08:43:00 PM
what's up?
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: pirichios on February 07, 2010, 09:52:00 PM
dude calm down, he will post news whenever he has an update  tongue.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: thesonandheir on February 07, 2010, 11:00:00 PM
If the guy needs a Dev kit to help him out - lets fn get him one!


Set up something for donations and he community will help out.

P.s How much are they anyway?
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on February 08, 2010, 12:27:00 AM
yes, if that's what it takes i will be willing to donate too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
i just want a video player in x360 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by hfmls: Feb 8 2010, 08:27 AM
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: ddxcb on February 08, 2010, 01:42:00 AM
QUOTE(thesonandheir @ Feb 7 2010, 11:00 PM) View Post

If the guy needs a Dev kit to help him out - lets fn get him one!
Set up something for donations and he community will help out.

P.s How much are they anyway?

The avarage joe do not need a kit, just some knowlage to program and make a debug log.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on February 08, 2010, 03:17:00 AM
i see. but joohan is working alone :| if i had the knowledge i would help for sure.
can't someone help him?
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: joohan on February 08, 2010, 04:46:00 AM
No a dev kit is not a must, but when you start to port a lib as big as libavcodec and the only debugging mechanism is "printf" then debugging your code will take forever.

The status so far:

I have libavcodec "crosscompiled" with llvm-gcc and llvm to C89 compilant C files, that compiles just fine on the SDK together with some simple test code that loads a videofile and tries to decode the first 5 frames.
I have not even tried to run it cause it will probably only end in a black screen and I will spend forewer inserting log events to figure out where the problem is.

So I did the same for X86, crosscompiled to a C-file that VS2005 for windows understands.
So now I have libavcodec for windows and the same simple test program, but I get some access voilation when opening the file. This error should probably not be to hard to track down but I have not put any affort on it yet.

And then when it is running in windows the next step is to switch back to the XBOX.

The windows files is developed with a legal VS2005 copy, so I could distribute it freely if anyone is interested.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on February 08, 2010, 05:02:00 AM
smile.gif smile.gif keep up the good work joohan.
if anyone can help him, it would be raelly apreciated.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: ][UNREAL][ on February 08, 2010, 03:19:00 PM
Joohan by the turn of events there, you have a forecast of when you have something in alpha stage?

Good work!
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on February 09, 2010, 01:25:00 AM
maybe when he has time to fix that stuff, to run a simple sample (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) hehe

correct me if i'm wrong. after all is compiled and ok.

we can "adapt" this to mplayer right?
with filebrowser and so?
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: Fragreaver on February 10, 2010, 02:01:00 AM
Guys, stop annoying him already. As for now, requests like a filebrowser etc. are just way ahead of the curve.
Right now, it can't even play the first 5 frames of a video.

Maybe someone should setup a sourceforge project (if joohan wants that), so anybody who wants to contribute can actually contribute wink.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on February 10, 2010, 02:29:00 AM
i'm asking about filebrowser, NOT requesting. only asking if it would be possible to add.




and yes a thing like sourceforge project would be extremely good.
like a SVN



how can we create it? like: TODAY
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on February 10, 2010, 02:53:00 AM
I CREATED A SOURCEFORGE PROGRESS "THING" so all can help!!!

please joohan upload there your files, so everybody can take a look at your progress and help.
Lets start running smile.gif

https://sourceforge.net/projects/xbox360player

Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: crisdo98 on February 10, 2010, 05:20:00 AM
QUOTE(hfmls @ Feb 10 2010, 09:53 AM) View Post

I CREATED A SOURCEFORGE PROGRESS "THING" so all can help!!!

please joohan upload there your files, so everybody can take a look at your progress and help.
Lets start running smile.gif

https://sourceforge.net/projects/xbox360player


dude.. i know you have the best intentions but i'm sure joohan in more then capable or creating his own source page should he wish to do so plus he'll have control over the page ...  

(removed punt at spelling biggrin.gif  )
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on February 10, 2010, 05:22:00 AM
i'm not english, so sometimes, some words or sentences can come out wrong, sorry.

i think joohan can make his own project too, but at least i made something to catch interest from other guys (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
this has to go faster (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) joohan has only two hands, and probably only in free time he can code/work on this
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: matt186 on February 10, 2010, 11:31:00 AM
QUOTE(hfmls @ Feb 10 2010, 12:22 PM) View Post

i'm not english, so sometimes, some words or sentences can come out wrong, sorry.

i think joohan can make his own project too, but at least i made something to catch interest from other guys smile.gif
this has to go faster smile.gif joohan has only two hands, and probably only in free time he can code/work on this


no offence hfmls but you sound like an overexcited teenager. Let joohan just do his thing. You are not helping progress with your posts
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on February 10, 2010, 11:40:00 AM
ok, but i am excited about all this stuff. i just jtagged my console 2 weeks ago or so.
sorry, i will keep it cool.

This post has been edited by hfmls: Feb 10 2010, 07:41 PM
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on February 12, 2010, 12:13:00 PM
joohan can u create a svn pls so all can help your work? smile.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: [Prophet] on February 12, 2010, 05:20:00 PM
QUOTE(hfmls @ Feb 10 2010, 08:40 PM) View Post

ok, but i am excited about all this stuff. i just jtagged my console 2 weeks ago or so.
sorry, i will keep it cool.

Having worked on community projects before, its the type of posts that you make, trying to rush the progress of a project that push many developers away from a project.  It's quite frustrating as a developer having over-zealous forum members without any knowledge of the concepts and challenges faced in a project making demands or being pushy trying to get more functionality out of the project.

The reality is, these guys do this in their own time, they don't get paid for it, and they'll handle their project however they want to.  I'm sure joohan, or any other developer won't want you dictating how the project is run or what direction it should go.

I've lost count of how many times I got sick of answering ridiculous questions, answering the same support questions over and over because people were too lazy to lookup information 2 pages in a thread earlier etc.  It really makes people question why they waste their time on a project, or at least bother to make it public.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: dinzy on February 13, 2010, 11:55:00 AM
The only reason I wanted a jtagged 360 was to use it as a media center.  Sure the fan sucks, but I really want to be able to stream the files I have on my PC that I cannot stream with XBMC on my Xbox1.

I honestly think many people are just assuming an XBMC or something like it will eventually appear on the 360 and that is why there appears to be little interest in it.

This post has been edited by dinzy: Feb 13 2010, 07:56 PM
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on February 14, 2010, 07:18:00 AM
joohan sent me a PM, he will upload files at sourceforge, but he said probably isn't the best place to do it. (i'll wait for an answer)

so, when it's available i'll say.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: dufc1983 on February 14, 2010, 11:36:00 AM
QUOTE(hfmls @ Feb 14 2010, 04:18 PM) View Post

joohan sent me a PM, he will upload files at sourceforge, but he said probably isn't the best place to do it. (i'll wait for an answer)

so, when it's available i'll say.



so are u saying he has something to release?
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on February 14, 2010, 11:54:00 AM
to work on. all users together. svn
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on February 19, 2010, 06:35:00 AM
bump?
no updates on this yet :\
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: bidrug on February 19, 2010, 04:55:00 PM
QUOTE(xboxbman @ Feb 19 2010, 03:29 PM) View Post

you need to switch to decaf


Wouldn't be enough, sugar must be removed from his diet too...
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: Sonic-NKT on February 20, 2010, 09:31:00 AM
what does a build have to do with porting... you have to compile the source for a different platform anyway. and a two years old build doesnt mean the program wasnt updated.
vlc is very good, dont get me wrong. but i think mplayer might be easier to port over
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on February 20, 2010, 09:43:00 AM
anything that worked would be ok smile.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: G3iST on February 20, 2010, 11:34:00 AM
QUOTE(hfmls @ Feb 19 2010, 02:35 PM) View Post

bump?
no updates on this yet :\


You need to learn to have patience you are not making it better with all your enthusiasm.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on February 20, 2010, 12:11:00 PM
again, sorry! but i don't see a problem to bump every 4 or 5 days without an answer. but ok.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: bidrug on February 20, 2010, 04:16:00 PM
QUOTE(hfmls @ Feb 20 2010, 01:11 PM) View Post

again, sorry! but i don't see a problem to bump every 4 or 5 days without an answer. but ok.



I don't see a problem, but someone stuff to be done...
if the topic gets buried deep in the forums, and there is some news or updates, I'm pretty sure the Dev will be able to find his topic easily and keep you posted.

Mail notifications could work, but this is not the way to keep a project alive.

And sorry if you have to say sorry again, my suspicions will be true.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: kainy on February 21, 2010, 06:35:00 AM
I support XBMC team for their decisions, as it's 100% correct... Just bought a WD TV HD box, and my HDTV problems are all sorted out... Making the 360 madia center too is too much for it smile.gif Playing games is still enough, and the combination of the two is still cheaper than an appropriate PC... smile.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: dinzy on February 21, 2010, 10:44:00 AM
QUOTE(kainy @ Feb 21 2010, 05:35 AM) View Post

I support XBMC team for their decisions, as it's 100% correct... Just bought a WD TV HD box, and my HDTV problems are all sorted out... Making the 360 madia center too is too much for it smile.gif Playing games is still enough, and the combination of the two is still cheaper than an appropriate PC... smile.gif



So the fact that you don't really care about having a media player on your 360 implies that anyone who wants one is somehow wrong?  The system is more than capable of playing videos and is already marketed as a (crippled) media center and netflix streamer, so clearly it is not too much for it.  

I really don't understand why people who have no desire for something, or simply dislike it, feel the need to chime in against it.  Many people want a fully functioning media player on their jtagged 360 and sooner or later there will be one.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: Lush on February 21, 2010, 10:48:00 AM
xbmc BELONGS on xbox360... it only makes sense...
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: ddxcb on February 21, 2010, 10:08:00 PM
XBMC Team needs to GTFO, why is it called this if they are dev for it and do it on PC platforms. Pisses me the F off.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: Drefsab on February 22, 2010, 05:12:00 AM
To be fair the XBMC team haven't said it shouldn't be worked on but they have said they are not going to spend the time and effort to port it. There simply isn't enough people out there with JTAG'ed 360's to make it worth the significant investment of time for them to port it. If everyone with a 360 could run this stuff then they may think differently but the fact remains that the vast majority of 360's out there currently not able to be JTAG'ed.

That being said XBMC's source code is freely available if you wanted to port it yourself. Now those with coding skills have look at it already and come to the decision that it would be far simpler to try and get MPlayer ported, and work from there.

Given that Mplayer was the core of XBMC (certainly was in the early days at least) porting that is still the first logical step even if you were porting XBMC. XBMC's decision is the right one for them, it may not be the right one for people like us who want a decent media player out of the 360 but well thats why those who can are working on other options. More power to them if you ask me.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: Me9a on February 22, 2010, 12:40:00 PM
so is there any progress yet ?

cant wait to watch full hd 1080p samples with my xbox360 jtaged   biggrin.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: bidrug on February 22, 2010, 03:45:00 PM
QUOTE(Me9a @ Feb 22 2010, 01:40 PM) View Post

so is there any progress yet ?

cant wait to watch full hd 1080p samples with my xbox360 jtaged   biggrin.gif


HTMLS!!!!!!!!???????  

You are not allowed to have multiple accounts, have you read the rules????

if not htmls, read the same replies we did to him please.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on February 22, 2010, 05:17:00 PM
first is hfmls.
and second no, it's not me.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: shtewps on February 24, 2010, 11:22:00 AM
Ah, finally... Found the thread with the secret homebrew 360 media player coders wink.gif Heard that they existed, but didn't know for sure until now.. some very exciting information here. And yes, some people need to relax a little bit and just appreciate the fact that there are people with the knowledge and energy to develop such a project. With that said, thank you to anyone, everyone who is working on this.

I would love to contribute to the coding, and would love to learn to where I could contribute. But by the time that happens this project will probably be complete :/

With that said I am willing to donate a jtagged console or two or three to qualified individuals that are capable of moving this project forward at a significant pace. Of course they must not own one to begin with.

Joohan if you lack any 360 hardware or would find it helpful if you had more, please PM me.

Thanks.



Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: ][UNREAL][ on February 24, 2010, 04:17:00 PM
QUOTE(shtewps @ Feb 24 2010, 03:22 PM) View Post

Ah, finally... Found the thread with the secret homebrew 360 media player coders wink.gif Heard that they existed, but didn't know for sure until now.. some very exciting information here. And yes, some people need to relax a little bit and just appreciate the fact that there are people with the knowledge and energy to develop such a project. With that said, thank you to anyone, everyone who is working on this.

I would love to contribute to the coding, and would love to learn to where I could contribute. But by the time that happens this project will probably be complete :/

With that said I am willing to donate a jtagged console or two or three to qualified individuals that are capable of moving this project forward at a significant pace. Of course they must not own one to begin with.

Joohan if you lack any 360 hardware or would find it helpful if you had more, please PM me.

Thanks.


Very good shtewps! It's like people like you that always the scene goes ahead!  love.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: ][UNREAL][ on February 28, 2010, 08:55:00 PM
No more news?  blink.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: juggahax0r on February 28, 2010, 09:43:00 PM
Seriously everyone who keeps bugging about features and this and that. You obviously don't even know what joohan is talking about doing. He is cross-compiling codecs , not working on a media player with a GUI and bells and whistles...This would take a lot of people working on it , he is trying to make a step and hopefully some people who can code will jump on it and help....If i were working on this i would have gotten mean a long time ago , if you don't hear anything it is probably because he hasn't made any progress go figure..He might have an actual job where he makes money , and if that job is programming he probably has work to do for his job. Programmers stay up day and night working on stuff i know my mother is a programmer.  I won;t try talking about anything technical i am not a programmer , just a hardware guy. But i know that because the Xbox was a basic legacy free PC with a standard architecture it was not that hard to write programs for , when you have the Xdk. Even with the XDK for the 360 you are still talking about it needing to run a platform that only exists in one device , Porting to a different OS has to be much Easier than porting too a device that has a CPU and GPU not used in any other "PC" , like i said i don't have technical knowledge of programming , just hardware so i won't talk too much out of my ass that is just my thought.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: Th3James on March 04, 2010, 07:24:00 PM
I would love to have a media player that can play .mkv's

but because i have my fan speed at 100% i don't know if i would use it. I might buy a new fan for my jtag 360. its an 06 model and i don't want it to die. I have 3 dead consoles ATM, 2 working 360's, and 1 jtag
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on March 04, 2010, 11:04:00 PM
yes buy a new fan. it will improve
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: Th3James on March 05, 2010, 01:15:00 PM
QUOTE(hfmls @ Mar 5 2010, 07:04 AM) View Post

yes buy a new fan. it will improve


i plan on buying one, any recommendations on a fan that can be at 100% and whisper quite?

i am just using stock 360 fan now, and just got my jtag a few days ago so i have yet to order a new fan
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: ][UNREAL][ on March 07, 2010, 08:33:00 PM
No news yet?  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on March 12, 2010, 01:28:00 AM
Ski-ller said he was gonna try to port mplayer, the creator of IngeniouX Beta 3
http://forums.xbox-s...o...05346&st=30

hope he is lucky with that smile.gif
it would be so so so good.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: LetsDoDamage on April 11, 2010, 02:46:00 PM
Impressive. I think I'll keep an eye on this to see how it goes. Way beyond my programming knowledge so I wish you guys the best of luck, I'm sure you'll do great smile.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on September 18, 2010, 01:35:00 AM
since FSD 2.0 already announced they WON'T include any media support i thought i could bring this to attention to all users, again.

If someone could work together to port mplayer or something more simple i dunno.

Any interest on this?
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: f0xrolder on September 18, 2010, 11:17:00 AM
open ur eyes answers out there. 3 different threads. mkv's suck muhaha.gif . divx rules  pop.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: Tatsh on September 18, 2010, 11:34:00 PM
MKV is a container that can contain almost ANY kind of video type and almost ANY kind of audio. And it can include multiple streams of each type too, and as a standard feature it supports subtitles. This is why it got so popular with the anime fansub communities on-line. Recall that MS's decoder (which uses hardware) can read MP4 (another container, but this time specifically VC-1 video and AC3 2ch audio). For WMV, it is the same profile. This might be the reason a lot of 1080p porn is in this format. XD

I'm getting so tired of reading the word 'port'. For one thing it isn't that easy! Especially stuff like Mplayer, something totally designed for compiling with GCC, not MSVC (Microsoft's official SDK of course uses `cl`, cross-compiles to PowerPC 64-bit, etc). Microsoft support for C (especially newer standards like C99) has been horribly lacking. And that is what most of the code base of mplayer is in. They have compiled mplayer on Windows. You might wonder how. MinGW of course, the native GCC port to Windows (from a UNIX/UNIX-like environment, such as Linux).

The main stumbling points to porting over Mplayer are just that it has a lot of code that may need to be revised to a) compile 100% successfully and optimised for 360 on MSVC and cool.gif run 100% correctly on a 360 console. Someone with a development console is better off doing this work because of the amount of time it would take. The good news is that Mplayer's DX9 back-end (which can use hardware shaders, like MS wants) is 100% working. It might just work on the 360.

Once all of Mplayer is ported, there's a whole new GUI to make. Obviously you're not going to be typing `mplayer myvideo.mkv` on the 360 (as much as I would like a console and keyboard support on the 360; but it's not a multitasking system).

Good luck to anyone who makes such an endeavour.

The main thing I'd like to see as a start in terms of homebrew multimedia is a good MP3 streamer (Ogg, WMA, etc support as well). Picks up a Samba/Windows share and reads MP3s (reads ID3v2, APE tags correctly!), and then plays. Jukebox, shuffle, all that, skins, etc. A solid (FOSS, but of course no real sharing till a free SDK is available) library for reading MP3 data and passing it to XAudio2 would be great for all developers.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: Tatsh on September 19, 2010, 12:08:00 PM
I kinda am too, so long as the boot time is pretty fast and X can run with compositing perfectly. Then this thing is a computer and at that point almost anything (except stuff that uses x86 assembly, a lot of emulators use it somewhere) can be ported anywhere. Everyone's more interested in building XDK apps and playing games right now. I'd like to see a Linux port but it's not incredibly important to me and I'm not going to start using my 360 as a computer if a good Linux port were to come about. One of the reasons one of the distros you can download is Gentoo (same distro I use on my computer, no Windows except for VMs), is because it's customisable from bootstrapping stage. They have it very optimised for the 360.

The thing we lose, playing 360 games within the Linux environment, which maybe can be solved is how to run the 360 games within an environment (although it might be slow). Wine runs Windows within Linux largely because it only works if the EXE is compiled for x86 (99%) and you run Linux on x86. It does not work on other architectures unless the EXE is compiled for that architecture.

One of my proofs of concept I've been working on is if you can do binary translation of PPC64 from an Xbox 360 XEX to x86 (or x86-64 might be better due to data types and memory), then maybe you can get sufficient support for running Xbox 360 games with a PC with something very similar to Wine except that Wine will need a PPC64->x86 translator, QEMU could be used for translation. I'm not trying to build a complete Xbox 360 PC emulator, just want to prove it can be done. I hate people who won't go out and at least buy the console and a few games and instead just go with emulation, expecting games to work 100%. (This was the situation over 10 years ago with the release of UltraHLE; somehow I think the developers had a deal with 3dfx to sell more cards.)
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on September 19, 2010, 04:54:00 PM
no 3d acceleration no mkv support 1080p.
so...whats the point to post that in this thread? .....come on.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: Tatsh on September 19, 2010, 05:06:00 PM
QUOTE(Sonic-NKT @ Sep 19 2010, 06:18 PM) View Post

i read on xboxhacker thats someone wants to build a new live cd with the latest linux patches (working sound and more) but it kind of went quite silent...
Still hope there will be a linux updatem, atleast 2D acceleration...
im more intrested in linux than the most  XDK stuff being released until today, it just opens so many possibilities

Sound would be great. The reason why the projects for Linux go stale are because of lack of time and lack of interest. Look at the interest in XDK stuff (stuff that runs within the Xbox 360 'OS' system) vs interest in getting an OS like Linux to run. It is IMO why Sony killed OtherOS from PS3 entirely besides the fact that it was being used to make dumps of games (unusable ones as we know now). Who knew? `dd if=/bluraydrive of=somegame.iso` (fixed later in firmware update). Such a great find and even I, a long-time user of Linux, probably wouldn't have thought of that for a bit.

The place that shall not be named has a GPU demo that runs on Linux and makes use of the graphics hardware. You should check it out. It is also all OpenGL so clearly some part of Mesa (or something similar) has been ported to 360 a little bit. It will be a while before a full port could be completed. However, since ATI opened the specifications of their hardware, it could be possible to make a free driver for the chip that's in the 360, which would be cool. Maybe even the current FOSS driver can load something and give 2D acceleration if not some support for 3D. GLSL is still not in there for many cards, so no shaders.

I'm also very happy the choice of distro for the start is Gentoo, and that's what I use anyway.  biggrin.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: SNAAAKE on September 23, 2010, 11:54:00 PM
QUOTE(reprec @ Sep 18 2010, 04:29 PM) View Post

That doesn't make ANY sense.


best to ignore such posts............

I laugh at people that dont understand technology and just...say things.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: Me9a on January 30, 2011, 09:27:00 PM
any news about an homebrew video player for 360 since i didnt payed attention ?

Mega
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on January 31, 2011, 06:04:00 AM
nop...but it seems PS3 mediaplayer is half done already :\
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: buggy12 on January 31, 2011, 07:18:00 AM
hi guys, i got a jtaged xbox and i'm running a freestyle dash... is there no development yet for a homebrew player?
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: hfmls on January 31, 2011, 05:58:00 PM
anyone willing to revive this thread? :\
i think it's time for a mediaplayer smile.gif
i will help with whatever i can, €,testing,etc.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: Me9a on January 31, 2011, 10:30:00 PM
QUOTE(hfmls @ Feb 1 2011, 01:58 AM) View Post

anyone willing to revive this thread? :\
i think it's time for a mediaplayer smile.gif
i will help with whatever i can, €,testing,etc.

i will test all too

but im not sure if we bet on the right horse
cause the video tab is currectly removed in freestyle dash so it think video playback in freestyle dash is dead.


and skiller is working on something like that too in his "IngeniouX Beta 3":
http://forums.xbox-s...o...5346&st=90#

and the new libxenon lib is pretty interresting for homebrew now cause it has hmdi output now
http://www.xbox-scen...AAZErvQBMtS.php
and freestyle and inglorius are bouth builded with the sdk

and about coding something on ourself i have like no coding skills i only know som pawn and how to build a .bat

Mega
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew Media Player?
Post by: buggy12 on February 02, 2011, 05:34:00 AM
nice... hope this new app will work...  biggrin.gif