Post by: DanXbix on March 16, 2008, 09:12:00 PM
Any news of any things developed with the lucky owner of these units?
XDK on the xbox1 was leaked did microsoft ever find out who did it?
Post by: scuba156 on March 17, 2008, 06:16:00 AM
the 360 SDK is already out there (not for the pblic, but a few hackers have it AFAIK) but will NOT be used to create any public homebrew for the 360 due to many legal reasons. theres modders want to stay away from the courts, and create there own software to create homebrew games
Post by: DanXbix on March 17, 2008, 05:29:00 PM
i know we cant use it yet as there is no real way of booting code, but at least hackers would have a head start
at developing for it.
Post by: scuba156 on March 17, 2008, 08:31:00 PM
the openXDK wasnt very powerful (hence why all the of good homebrew apps were created using an XDK, instead of the openXDK
Post by: Libtoem on March 18, 2008, 11:48:00 PM
Post by: scuba156 on March 19, 2008, 02:00:00 PM
and i wasnt talking about these people having the ability to run unsigned code of a devkit either....
if they did make public releases of homebrew built with an XeXDK, then it opens them up to lawsuits and obviously they dont fancy being sued
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Post by: Libtoem on March 19, 2008, 04:42:00 PM
QUOTE(scuba156 @ Mar 19 2008, 10:36 PM) 
no that will not happen, the SDK is already available to people (im not going to name anyone and it may cause them being harrased for it), BUT it will NOT be used for any public releases of xbox 360 homebrew
and i wasnt talking about these people having the ability to run unsigned code of a devkit either....
if they did make public releases of homebrew built with an XeXDK, then it opens them up to lawsuits and obviously they dont fancy being sued
Don't you remember what happened to xbox 1,and yes it will happen to the retail 360 if it gets fully hacked.
Thats why you haven't seen any public homebrew.I've been in the 360 dev scene for a couple of years now,but the retail 360 is far from running unsigned code.For right now if people want a modded 360 than there best bet is to get a 360 dev/debug kit,that kit works wonders.
Post by: scuba156 on March 19, 2008, 05:48:00 PM
i suggest you go read up on xboxhacker.net
bootloaders have been created for a retail xbox 360 that will run on it, but its built using a MS XeXDK
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Post by: Libtoem on March 19, 2008, 05:58:00 PM
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Post by: scuba156 on March 19, 2008, 06:11:00 PM
sorry, i didnt realise you were talking about in the event of it being leaked. to me, it seemed like you were saying that the people who have it now are going to create public homebrew with it. and i (now) completly agree with you on that point.
even though im impatient, im glad that they are taking the legal route and that no one will leak the XeXDK. for one, it gives this community a better name as it is no longer illegal.
by going this route, i would expect to see homebrew starting to pop up in about 1.5 - 2.5 years if intrest doesnt drop (which it most likely will due to the new wii hacks, i really cant wait to get some native homebrew running on the wii, which funnily enough is what im typing this on right now)
Post by: Libtoem on March 20, 2008, 05:47:00 PM
Post by: scuba156 on March 21, 2008, 05:17:00 AM
i can understand them having tight security for the SDK, but i could imagine them leaving a hole somewhere in the consoles security. they cannot deny that with the xbox being fully hacked, it brought them alot more sales. they are a business after all and in the end, all businesses are in it for the money, but they do have to protect the interests of investors and developers too
Post by: satviewer2000 on March 26, 2008, 12:02:00 AM
QUOTE(scuba156 @ Mar 21 2008, 12:53 PM)
while MS has been trying to keep the lid on this jar airtight as you said, 90% of the time, there is always some way to get around it (not that i want it to be leaked though), the question is if someone will be able to find that way and then actually start sharing it.
i can understand them having tight security for the SDK, but i could imagine them leaving a hole somewhere in the consoles security. they cannot deny that with the xbox being fully hacked, it brought them alot more sales. they are a business after all and in the end, all businesses are in it for the money, but they do have to protect the interests of investors and developers too
Wasn't it true that MS actually LOST money on every XBox1 sold? It was basically a PC for far less than what a simlarly powered PC would have cost at the time. I believe their business model was to make money by selling software, licenses, accessories, etc, NOT by selling the console itself. So selling a fully hackable console didn't make much business sense. Even if the whole world had bought Xbox1, MS would still only be able to break even (if that).
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Post by: scuba156 on March 26, 2008, 01:00:00 AM
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