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Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: Xbox-Scene on March 04, 2007, 10:59:00 PM
Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Posted by XanTium | March 5 00:59 EST | News Category: Xbox360
 
We got this interesting email from a trusted developer that wishes to remain anonymous for now. He has been working on a port of MAME and ScummVM for the Xbox360 for some time now. The development and pictures below are from a devkit, but with the recent Hypervisor Exploit (kernel 4532/4548 only for now) there's hope you'll be able to run this on a retail Xbox360 some day:
Quote

In light of the recent 360 hack and possibility of widespread homebrew in the future, I wanted to share some news with you and X-S.

I've been working on a port of MAME to the 360. I call it 'MAME360'.

Now for a bit about the project:
* It's based on MAME 0.112 and is fairly easy to keep up-to-date (doesn't need any messing around with like Mameox on the xbox).
* Originally it was based on SDLMAME but I've since ported a 360 specific osd layer (so SDL for the 360 exists - as an aside I also have a port of ScummVM in the works too).
* Mame doesn't include any dynarec cpu emulation on anything other than an x86 platform. So any game that is PSX or N64 based for example doesn't run at all well.
* Most other stuff (that I've tried) runs pretty well.
* At the moment it will only run on 360 dev/debug/test kits. Whether it will ever run on a hacked retail box remains to be seen.


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Post by: twistedsymphony on March 04, 2007, 10:21:00 PM
let me be the first to say.... awesome  smile.gif

I'm glad there's development ongoing even without a fully hacked platform...
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Post by: chuckthefuk on March 04, 2007, 10:24:00 PM
:-o
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Post by: psxpirate1 on March 04, 2007, 10:30:00 PM
This is AWESOME!! This is a great way to kick off the homebrew scene! Lets hope others will come in numbers to launch the new emulation revolution. Awesome proof of concept.  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Post by: l0tics on March 04, 2007, 10:32:00 PM
Nice to see what game developers do in their spare time biggrin.gif
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Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on March 04, 2007, 10:35:00 PM
ive got the dash version with the vulnerability.. now i just need a way to [easily] exploit it.. i cant wait to try some homebrew firsthand.. thats when having two 360's pays off.

id say this is the true beginning.. hopefully someone will show some homebrew so amazing, that the want to hack the 360 will increase enough to find whatever solid vulnerability needs found.

 smile.gif
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Post by: Darkjasper on March 04, 2007, 10:35:00 PM
It is sweet how it is not a fully hacked console yet people are working with devkits to create things. Awesome job.
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Post by: mlapaglia on March 04, 2007, 10:45:00 PM
CRAZY! keep up the kick ass work!
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Post by: sektor1062 on March 04, 2007, 10:49:00 PM
QUOTE(ILLusions0fGrander @ Mar 5 2007, 06:42 AM) View Post

ive got the dash version with the vulnerability.. now i just need a way to [easily] exploit it.. i cant wait to try some homebrew firsthand.. thats when having two 360's pays off.

2 boxes will pay off the same way for me too biggrin.gif
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Post by: mbay on March 04, 2007, 10:52:00 PM
cool to be able to start where games "kind of" started - at least for old schoolers.
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Post by: dre74 on March 04, 2007, 10:52:00 PM
Hell yeah I can almost taste homebrew on the 360.
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Post by: belke on March 04, 2007, 11:01:00 PM
so a game developer who had ahold of a dev kit made this? why doesnt he help them crack the 360 too! good work btw
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Post by: Base8 on March 04, 2007, 11:05:00 PM
Damn, i do have to say, im more esited about emulators than XBMC.   Thats right, i said it.  I sure as hell hope this homebrew thing stars happining.  Now im kinda wishing i would have bought 2 xboxes also, oh well progress is progress.

 pop.gif
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Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on March 04, 2007, 11:07:00 PM
Wii controller working with 360 homebrew would take the cake.
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Post by: xtriker on March 04, 2007, 11:37:00 PM
Is it me or those pictures look fake? unsure.gif
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Post by: The Zep Man on March 04, 2007, 11:38:00 PM
OK, this is it. Seems I need to get a Xbox 360 today. My feeling says that it is possible to see this on a hacked retail box somewhere in 2007. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Great job!

QUOTE(xtriker @ Mar 5 2007, 07:44 AM) *

Is it me or those pictures look fake? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
It is you. The same type of you who also said that MC360 was fake.

This post has been edited by The Zep Man: Mar 5 2007, 07:43 AM
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Post by: cmart* on March 04, 2007, 11:39:00 PM
This is great progress. Nice work!
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Post by: Cyberz on March 04, 2007, 11:54:00 PM
cool...
Hope they got it finnished soon...
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Post by: Thraxen on March 05, 2007, 12:17:00 AM
Damn... I hope the 360 gets fully cracked soon.  I'd LOVE to have MAME on the 360.  The original XBox was a great platform for emulators, but MAME was one of the emulators with which it struggled for certain types of games (Midway, 3D, etc...).

This post has been edited by Thraxen: Mar 5 2007, 08:25 AM
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Post by: flashfreak on March 05, 2007, 12:18:00 AM
Things are starting to move, quite quickly. This is a very good sign. A useful 360 hack (ie, the dvd firmware hack is not useful) is on the way
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Post by: Ghansje on March 05, 2007, 12:38:00 AM
Hmm i`m starting to think that i should sell my unmodded xbox 360(kernel 4548)
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Post by: darklocust on March 05, 2007, 12:42:00 AM
that's flippin sweet! i had an older kernel till I updated to play GRAW2... but here's hoping the SF II on mame is better than the conrtols on XBLA
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Post by: Fragreaver on March 05, 2007, 12:55:00 AM
No doubt about it, but why is the guide shifted like that?
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Post by: NYCXBOX on March 05, 2007, 12:59:00 AM
Know what sucks about this.......

Microsoft created the security for the Xbox 360 to prevent 1st - Piracy, 2nd homebrew or un-authorised code from running on the xbox 360.

With that being said - they took the second thing, HOMEBREW and tried to turn it around by offering code creators club and giving people the ability to create software for the Xbox 360.  We have already seen Emulators and such created using the tools that Microsoft has offered the development community.  Yet this development community isn't as exciting as it was when we got unsigned code to run on the original Xbox, if it was we wouldn't be looking for a way to run unsigned code still(as we are), we would just go buy a subscription to download from the official development community that already exist.

Now I hate to say it, I applaud Microsoft for all their efforts on the 360 - but with the community exploiting the 360 and offering every person the ability to run backups (with no modchip required-M$ do you remember dreamcast?) - and I think this was the one thing microsoft wanted to prevent, yet with a simple firmware flash m$ worst nightmare has come true.  

As for the true hardcore users we have all fallen prey to the same security to prevent us from truely enjoying some of the best HOMEBREW Applications that await us.  XBMC is probibly one of the best and only reasons to own an Xbox (these days) - and as I stream video through my Xbox on XBMC and type this - I hope and pray they find a way for us same users to use homebreew code sometime in the near future - as I like emulators too and I think that the 360 would be a great powerful alternitive to enjoying console games of the past, Homebrew emulation would make the 360 100 times better that Xbox live arcade, Wii VC and PS3 Download store combined

I am Quite excited by this news, but I only hope that the homebrew that we are all awaiting comes to us soon (X360MC) and that I can once and for all, retire my Xbox and exclusive fireup my 360 every day and continue to use the best media application that was ever coded.


PS: I have now coined the term for the next media center application for the Xbox 360, the XBMC team will not call it XBMC360 or XBMC2 it will be X360MC - or - 360MC, and the tag line for this new media center, next generation has finally come full circle, X360MC - ok so im ranting
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Post by: luther349 on March 05, 2007, 01:06:00 AM
well to clear things up. xna is a ok app my frend codes with it hes making a streets of rage type game for xna so to all those club members get ready for a good one he makes good shit and is a kickass gfx desiner and coder. where talking movie qualty stuff hear.  xna is defently good in that world however its still sandbox modea and cant do stuff like online modes or any real apps like xbmc. emulation is also very hard to do. unlike modded mode that can do homebrew without any restrections.
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Post by: KSB2003 on March 05, 2007, 01:21:00 AM
Did the guy happen to mention if he was planning to release it in the wild?  That would be sweet!  Some people out there can run the exploit, after all.   smile.gif
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Post by: kidman64 on March 05, 2007, 01:56:00 AM
f**k yeah!!!
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Post by: sp1200 on March 05, 2007, 01:59:00 AM
For fuck's sake. I hope someone gets to work on this kernel soon.
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Post by: Lamer123 on March 05, 2007, 02:48:00 AM
This is awesome!!

I did kind of hope that things would get started off with a open developers kit first though.

Using Microsoft's dev kit and utilities will always be the best but it puts us down the same illegal path as the xbox.
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Post by: hawkolugy on March 05, 2007, 02:51:00 AM
does anybody know that if you buy an xbox 360 from the store now will it come with the update? or will it come with the hackable version...
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Post by: Fragreaver on March 05, 2007, 03:02:00 AM
If the manufactory date is prior 6th january (most are (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ), you have < 4552.
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Post by: Chamrock on March 05, 2007, 05:05:00 AM
I personally don't give a damn if apps developed by XeDK is illegal. It is the only proper way to create apps that are useful. XNA could kiss my ass! It restricts alot so it could go to hell.
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Post by: bucko on March 05, 2007, 05:58:00 AM
Sweet, now if only people can figure out how to downgrade the kernel on newer retail boxes we are all set.

I wonder if XBMC team are secretly working on a 360 devkit ohmy.gif
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Post by: rocarmy4life on March 05, 2007, 06:12:00 AM
i am soooo looking forward to this!
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Post by: andi_06 on March 05, 2007, 06:14:00 AM
The only reason threads like this even exist, is because as usual MS doesnt listen to people. What would you rather, let the use of illegal pirated games and loose millions or.... Let us poor friekin people run unassigned code, maybe with a few restrictions... Xna doesnt cut it and never will.......
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Post by: kevhonda on March 05, 2007, 06:16:00 AM
simply amazing I can see it now N64 games running perfectly on the 360!! I know this is by no means "around the corner" but a Mame 360 emu is a very good start.  It only makes me think...what other apps are out there running on devkits??? I wish there was something the mass could do to help this effort, anyway keep up the GREAT work guys!!
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Post by: boxxa on March 05, 2007, 06:29:00 AM
You people freakin amaze me. Congrats to all your work and I cant wait to see the progress of this exploit over the next few months.
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Post by: Mysoundhurts on March 05, 2007, 06:32:00 AM
maybe a video upload anyone who knows how to operate photoshop can make those pics. hell if i wanted i could say I made a N64 emulator and cut the corner of a screensshot of the dash and ,make it look just as real, don't shoot me down, just prove me wrong with a video upload. Forgive my skeptics, but Unsighned code is noe whatis running at all, if he has d development kit, than most likely as it says it may nebver run on a store bough hacked xbpox 360, and all of us thathave "hacked 360s only have the odd hacked f/w changed other than that we have not hacked anything, we are boooting 1/1 minus the media flag back-ups with the same parameters as a normal game.
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Post by: jcdenton2003 on March 05, 2007, 06:33:00 AM
Brill!! I cant wait untill they crack the new k's i hear there is no way of downgrading nowdays because Ms have blown the efuse's.. Where abouts is the kernel stored anyways? No chance or a chip being made so you can choose between kernels?
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Post by: sunnyxwala on March 05, 2007, 06:35:00 AM
On my console the Shutdown screen has an option to turn off the controller(maybe dev kits don't), i dont see that here!....maybe be i'm missing something, but unless someone can explain this to me i'm going to assume it is fake

Here is the picture i am talking about:
http://pictures.xbox-scene.com/xbox360/mam.../mame360_05.jpg

ps...i hope homebrew runs...something like mc360...xbmc is awesome

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Post by: 4real*leb on March 05, 2007, 06:47:00 AM
QUOTE(sunnyxwala @ Mar 5 2007, 07:42 AM) *

On my console the Shutdown screen has an option to turn off the controller(maybe dev kits don't), i dont see that here!....maybe be i'm missing something, but unless someone can explain this to me i'm going to assume it is fake

Here is the picture i am talking about:
http://pictures.xbox-scene.com/xbox360/mam.../mame360_05.jpg

ps...i hope homebrew runs...something like mc360...xbmc is awesome

Yah mine does too what is up with that?

This post has been edited by 4real*leb: Mar 5 2007, 02:49 PM
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Post by: Fred_PJ on March 05, 2007, 06:47:00 AM
Aaron Giles?
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Post by: [email protected] on March 05, 2007, 07:11:00 AM
Lets hope someone is working on xbmc360 as we speak wink.gif
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Post by: Carcharius on March 05, 2007, 07:12:00 AM
QUOTE(sunnyxwala @ Mar 5 2007, 03:42 PM) *

On my console the Shutdown screen has an option to turn off the controller(maybe dev kits don't), i dont see that here!....maybe be i'm missing something, but unless someone can explain this to me i'm going to assume it is fake

Here is the picture i am talking about:
http://pictures.xbox-scene.com/xbox360/mam.../mame360_05.jpg

ps...i hope homebrew runs...something like mc360...xbmc is awesome

wired controller perhaps?

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Post by: monkeyflungpoo on March 05, 2007, 07:14:00 AM
to the controller thing he or she might be using a wired controller.
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Post by: 0794 on March 05, 2007, 07:29:00 AM
QUOTE(monkeyflungpoo @ Mar 5 2007, 08:21 AM) View Post

to the controller thing he or she might be using a wired controller.


you are exactly right - this always comes up with pictures and people scream fake - some of my developer friends say they prefer to have the wired controllers connected because they do not "time out" like the wireless ones and also to save on batteries...


Anyways, awesome to see development continue on the 360 homebrew scene!

every step is closer and closer...
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Post by: Cyberz on March 05, 2007, 07:32:00 AM
you get that option only if u have wirles controll
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Post by: PCBUILDERCHRIS on March 05, 2007, 07:37:00 AM
i have to go pee now   biggrin.gif
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Post by: DrPepperFan15 on March 05, 2007, 08:28:00 AM
it says that it was tested only on a XDK360... And I thought you had access to everything while having the XDK360 so how is this anything special other than a basic homebrew app?

I'm confused on this whole thing then
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Post by: yaazz on March 05, 2007, 08:59:00 AM
QUOTE(DrPepperFan15 @ Mar 5 2007, 11:35 AM) View Post
it says that it was tested only on a XDK360... And I thought you had access to everything while having the XDK360 so how is this anything special other than a basic homebrew app?
I'm confused on this whole thing then

 
 Because it means as soon as a way to play unsigned code becomes available, we already have cool software up and running.
 
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Post by: ashlar42 on March 05, 2007, 09:00:00 AM
QUOTE(DrPepperFan15 @ Mar 5 2007, 04:35 PM) *

it says that it was tested only on a XDK360... And I thought you had access to everything while having the XDK360 so how is this anything special other than a basic homebrew app?

I'm confused on this whole thing then
Well... I think the developer wanted people to know that as soon as homebrew is possible on standard consoles... applications will be coming.
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Post by: sephiro499 on March 05, 2007, 09:18:00 AM
FINALLY, the light at the end of the tunnel is visible  love.gif
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Post by: Deihmos on March 05, 2007, 09:19:00 AM
QUOTE(ashlar42 @ Mar 5 2007, 11:07 AM) *

Well... I think the developer wanted people to know that as soon as homebrew is possible on standard consoles... applications will be coming.


I wonder how many people will actually get to use this? I am sure the majority do not have this this kernel. I know i don't...I actually don't see this going too far unless you plan to keep your xbox offline and buy an HD DVD drive to get this done.

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Post by: ExitRooster on March 05, 2007, 10:28:00 AM
QUOTE(Darkjasper @ Mar 4 2007, 10:42 PM) View Post

It is sweet how it is not a fully hacked console yet people are working with devkits to create things. Awesome job.


Yea no doubt - I mean - How are they getting dev kits? smile.gif  Me want one.
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Post by: incognegro on March 05, 2007, 10:33:00 AM
Yea this is looking very psp-ish right now and im not liking it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

This post has been edited by incognegro: Mar 5 2007, 06:34 PM
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Post by: Mozbius on March 05, 2007, 11:00:00 AM
QUOTE(The Zep Man @ Mar 5 2007, 06:45 AM) *

OK, this is it. Seems I need to get a Xbox 360 today. My feeling says that it is possible to see this on a hacked retail box somewhere in 2007. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Great job!

It is you. The same type of you who also said that MC360 was fake.



 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Post by: gaming fanboy on March 05, 2007, 11:07:00 AM
QUOTE(ILLusions0fGrander @ Mar 5 2007, 06:42 AM) View Post

ive got the dash version with the vulnerability.. now i just need a way to [easily] exploit it.. i cant wait to try some homebrew firsthand.. thats when having two 360's pays off.

id say this is the true beginning.. hopefully someone will show some homebrew so amazing, that the want to hack the 360 will increase enough to find whatever solid vulnerability needs found.

 smile.gif

i just bought a new 360 today also, keeping that fall update  off of it! biggrin.gif
 pop.gif
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Post by: Deihmos on March 05, 2007, 11:21:00 AM
QUOTE(gaming fanboy @ Mar 5 2007, 01:14 PM) *

i just bought a new 360 today also, keeping that fall update  off of it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pop.gif)


 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/jester.gif) Let's just hope this goes further for your sake.
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Post by: gsharpshooter on March 05, 2007, 11:50:00 AM
ITS ALIVEEEE MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA muhaha.gif  OMFG WHAT A GORGEOUS CREATION BY MAN KIND INTO 360 one question does this require a hacked firmware or just abaility to do this on normal 360. MEN and ALL XBOX USERS IN THE WORLD I THINK ITS TIME TO FINALLY WIPE THE DUST OFF THE 360 SOOn happy.gif  pop.gif
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Post by: Diontae18 on March 05, 2007, 12:17:00 PM
Awesome. Can't Wait!  love.gif
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Post by: Mike Bowler on March 05, 2007, 12:32:00 PM
To anyone screaming FAKE how about you leave and just think its fake because nobody here wants to know about your fake theories.

Personally though this is real enough for me and i can't wait to see the 360 cracked wide open with both chips and soft-mods, and i truly do believe it will be beat simply due to the fact thats impossible to make it unhackable but it is possible to make it hard to hack anyway lol enough said smile.gif

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Post by: gamehunter101 on March 05, 2007, 02:06:00 PM
awesome job  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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Post by: Hack_Bird on March 05, 2007, 02:23:00 PM
biggrin.gif Fake or not, "I believe"

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Post by: Agent ME on March 05, 2007, 02:36:00 PM
What stops us from using this with XNA now? And what's wrong with the xbox guide?
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Post by: Odb718 on March 05, 2007, 02:37:00 PM
heh, 5 pages and not one person speculating on who made it...
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Post by: stilts07 on March 05, 2007, 02:46:00 PM
This is awsome laugh.gif . This is alot of progress when this starts going, new homebrew software for 360 are gonna go left and right all over the place. smile.gif
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Post by: The Zep Man on March 05, 2007, 02:49:00 PM
QUOTE(Odb718 @ Mar 5 2007, 10:44 PM) View Post

heh, 5 pages and not one person speculating on who made it...
I can tell you who made it.

QUOTE
a trusted developer that wishes to remain anonymous for now.
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Post by: Zeze21 on March 05, 2007, 03:17:00 PM
QUOTE(Odb718 @ Mar 5 2007, 10:44 PM) View Post

heh, 5 pages and not one person speculating on who made it...

well since there are a couple of guys how have dev kits speculating wouldn't bring us anywhere... i mean every publisher will have at least one dev kit and i guess the big ones like ea will have quite a couple of them so anyone who has access there is theoretically able to create this

different thing though running on a dev kit... ok the porting job is great news but does it really help anyone? As I understand it with the Devkit you can pretty much do what you want and therefore i don't really see what this will bring to the end user (us)
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Post by: Vejita on March 05, 2007, 03:40:00 PM
QUOTE(Odb718 @ Mar 5 2007, 09:44 PM) View Post

heh, 5 pages and not one person speculating on who made it...


Xport360 biggrin.gif
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Post by: Chan163 on March 05, 2007, 03:54:00 PM
QUOTE(Agent ME @ Mar 5 2007, 10:43 PM) *

What stops us from using this with XNA now?

Maybe the fact that XNA is pretty slow and has big restrictions?

Also, other apps like XBMC or X360MC as it may be called, will be severely restricted by the fact that you can't use the Ethernet.... that sucks.


 
QUOTE
And what's wrong with the xbox guide?

Nothing. Some people are a bit paranoid, because some screenshots do look a bit different than their guide. Wired controllers don't show 'turn off controller'. Why should that option be there with wired controllers? There is nothing to turn off.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Post by: Diontae18 on March 05, 2007, 04:48:00 PM
QUOTE(Vejita @ Mar 5 2007, 05:47 PM) View Post

Xport360 biggrin.gif

Vejita I was thinking the same thing  biggrin.gif
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Post by: infidelity on March 05, 2007, 07:26:00 PM
I can't wait for Xport's releases!

Bring on Homebrew!
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Post by: DrPepperFan15 on March 05, 2007, 08:55:00 PM
All I have to strongly say now is...


LINKSBOKS 2.0 !!!!!   please...?

This post has been edited by DrPepperFan15: Mar 6 2007, 04:56 AM
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: capboy210 on March 05, 2007, 10:09:00 PM
Well if i were a developer i would be making a dashboard that allows hdd backups of 360 games etc... Then work on the emulation of older games. What can i say. Old games will never be new. Well it still tops off the "hello world"  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) .

This post has been edited by capboy210: Mar 6 2007, 06:09 AM
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: 1nick9 on March 06, 2007, 12:28:00 AM
looks like microsoft didnt track down all of the stolen dev kits hahah this is fukin sweet as. either that or a game dev'er is in on it. either way great news. 360 homebrew really startin to take off.

cheers
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: gli7ch on March 06, 2007, 05:53:00 AM
Anyone have any spec's on these DevKit's? I am pretty sure they use the "Phillips" ODD? The screens look nice, and the Start guide is probably just distorted because of the time it takes for a computer to take the screenshot not matching to the time it takes for the guide to pop onto screen, just for any non believers out there, try it out yourself.

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Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: Killerchronic on March 06, 2007, 06:55:00 AM
this is some really great news, i for one can't wait to see whats around the corner (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

i think it really is only a matter of time before someone manages to come up with a workaround for running restricted code, as someone already said, its impossible to make something unhackable, but easy to make it hard to hack.

props to the people behind the scenes that still press on with this work even though we arn't at the stage where running this on a non devkit box is possible, can't wait to see mame and xbmc running on a 360!

Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: julio9 on March 06, 2007, 09:24:00 AM
I hope this is legit.  If they can get true homebrew running on the 360, I'll have a reason to finally get rid of my old xbox.  My wife's been bugging me about it forever (do we really NEED three video game machines, and a computer???)  biggrin.gif .
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: Math1 on March 06, 2007, 12:38:00 PM
It's a very long way from a developer working on a dev kit writing MAME and you being able to run it on your retail box. Developers hav eno way to produce signed retail code. And the hypervisor hole people are talking about exploiting is pretty damned narrow and sure to be plugged up fast.

There was a MAME on Xbox 1 ages before modded boxes came out. It was done by a legit developer in his free time and circulated pretty widely in the dev community. but it took a fully modded Xbox to make anything like that available for a retail box.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: madmab on March 06, 2007, 02:00:00 PM
Talk about waving the proverbial carrot in front of our noses.  laugh.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: Mad-Man-666 on March 06, 2007, 05:23:00 PM
I was wondering what happened to this project.


Its good to see they are still working on it.


Now we just have to hope that when M$ releases a larger Hard Drive that it will be the key to cracking the 360.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: DrPepperFan15 on March 06, 2007, 07:43:00 PM
QUOTE(Mad-Man-666 @ Mar 6 2007, 06:30 PM) View Post

I was wondering what happened to this project.
Its good to see they are still working on it.
Now we just have to hope that when M$ releases a larger Hard Drive that it will be the key to cracking the 360.



or will it just be another way to update into the new kernels already installed on the HDD... sleep.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: Radioedit420 on March 06, 2007, 08:08:00 PM
QUOTE(kevhonda @ Mar 5 2007, 08:23 AM) View Post

simply amazing I can see it now N64 games running perfectly on the 360!! I know this is by no means "around the corner" but a Mame 360 emu is a very good start.


Dude running Zelda: Ocarina of time, (and majoras mask)  hybrid, starfox and shit like that would prolly make me cream in my jeans
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: _DiGiTaL_ on March 09, 2007, 06:09:00 AM
This is great it would be nice if there was some vulnerability in the newer dash. a downgrader would rip ms apart @_@
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: Sonicjam on March 09, 2007, 06:27:00 AM
well there could be another game that make exploiting easier one that you don't need a serial port one you can just run it up from your hdd or memory card like the first xbox with splintercelll or the hack on the psp with gta lcs (unpatched version). why just king kong there couple of 360 games out there that could have an exploit.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: Mad01 on March 10, 2007, 02:56:00 PM
I think we can look hopefull in the future
for xbox360 homebrew  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Mad01
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: shoks on March 27, 2007, 04:45:00 PM
It's been over a year since the xbox360 was released yet it hasn't been cracked and looks unlikely ever to be. sad.gif
The xbox one was cracked within a few months of release.  We should forget about mame360 and leave it to Live Arcade.  People should be concentrating of updating  Mame for the original xbox like the execllant MAMEOX as it is stuck on version 0.84 for some time.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: Hopeful on March 28, 2007, 04:34:00 AM
QUOTE(shoks @ Mar 27 2007, 11:52 PM) View Post

It's been over a year since the xbox360 was released yet it hasn't been cracked and looks unlikely ever to be. sad.gif
The xbox one was cracked within a few months of release.  We should forget about mame360 and leave it to Live Arcade.  People should be concentrating of updating  Mame for the original xbox like the execllant MAMEOX as it is stuck on version 0.84 for some time.

Where have you been? 360 is already booting linux. It's indeed running its first homebrew apps already, for certain really talented people pioneering this stuff. Of course it's only older kernel's right now, but it is indeed already happening. Now they just need to write the new homebrew. (And maybe work on expanding the 'sploit to other kernels if it's possible. Either way, some 360's now do homebrew, and that's worthy of a community.)

Speaking of specific homebrew.. Is there any new progress on this?
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: PhunkyGam3r on March 31, 2007, 06:26:00 AM
and at the moment, xboxhacker.net has dumped the hypervisor, and examining it for it's own vulnerabilities so that they may find a 'universal' exploit that works with all xbox 360 kernals, that is, until m$ decides to update those too. but did m$ really blow efuses so that you cannot downgrade your kernal? and if just about everything can be updated(or reflashed) by microsoft, once we find a vulnerability(a good solid one, that requires a game, and perhaps only a Burnt CD-R) we can begin to make kernal or dash replacement chips, and work on some Bios loaders(Pheonix, nkpatcher?) which will eventually lead us to ultimate modding on the xbox 360
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: mylakerye on March 31, 2007, 07:45:00 PM
*it took two years for hackers to crack xbox 1*
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: PC_Arcade on April 02, 2007, 02:36:00 AM
QUOTE(mylakerye @ Apr 1 2007, 01:52 AM) *

*it took two years for hackers to crack xbox 1*


Xbox released in the US : November 15, 2001
Xtender released : May 2002

6 Months to the first retail modchip for xbox.

Gamecube lasted the longest last gen

Released in Japan : September 14, 2001
Viper Modchip : December of 2004

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Post by: wans on April 03, 2007, 07:55:00 PM
QUOTE(Zeze21 @ Mar 6 2007, 12:24 AM) View Post

well since there are a couple of guys how have dev kits speculating wouldn't bring us anywhere... i mean every publisher will have at least one dev kit and i guess the big ones like ea will have quite a couple of them so anyone who has access there is theoretically able to create this

different thing though running on a dev kit... ok the porting job is great news but does it really help anyone? As I understand it with the Devkit you can pretty much do what you want and therefore i don't really see what this will bring to the end user (us)


During my time with a developer under atari, i had my own personal debug box, pretty much everyone did same with the PS TOOL which was basicly a pc in a gigantic ps2 case.  There wernt many development boxes in the office, to my knowledge there was only 2.  

The development boxes are used to compile the sources, the debug boxes were used simply for testing.  

Also, all the screens were captured from the framebuffer, or at least that was what i was lead to believe.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: Twisted871 on November 03, 2007, 09:05:00 PM
So is this project still alive or not? The lack of updates about it concerns me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: gamerfreak1727 on March 27, 2008, 11:58:00 AM
QUOTE(Twisted871 @ Nov 3 2007, 11:05 PM) View Post

So is this project still alive or not? The lack of updates about it concerns me sad.gif


I'd really like to know too, and if it is, the dev IMO should release it for those of us with dev kits.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: caster420 on April 25, 2008, 11:07:00 AM
QUOTE(belke @ Mar 5 2007, 01:37 AM) *
why doesnt he help them crack the 360 too!
People already have them.  This is how the HV expliot was found. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Caster.

Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: poopoolaru on May 11, 2008, 09:31:00 AM
http://www.ptop.abor...i...17&Itemid=1

Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: Xbox360DemoKit on July 01, 2008, 05:25:00 PM
QUOTE(poopoolaru @ May 11 2008, 04:07 PM) View Post

http://www.ptop.abor...i...17&Itemid=1



And where can i download it? sleep.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: Libtoem on July 03, 2008, 08:39:00 PM
^ not going to happen,thats a private emulator.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: Mhawk134 on April 15, 2009, 04:55:00 AM
I know this is like two years old, but does anybody have this?

Hawk
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: Libtoem on April 15, 2009, 03:18:00 PM
Like I said its private and as well it was built using the 360 sdk so thats against the rules here if given as requesting for it.

This post has been edited by Libtoem: Apr 15 2009, 10:19 PM
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: Mhawk134 on April 20, 2009, 02:29:00 AM
Well I got it took about 4 days of searching but I finally got all the emus that I wanted and some more, but it's work it. MAME is GREAT.

Hawk
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: gamerfreak1727 on April 21, 2009, 12:32:00 AM
Yes, you did.

The leaker will be dealt with accordingly, when his time comes. It's nothing at all to brag about.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: Mhawk134 on April 21, 2009, 01:06:00 AM
I wasn't braggin I was just telling the guy that I got it, he posts that everything is hard to get it's really not mame 360 is REALLY hard to get though the others I found on the net threw searching google, and with some help from others.

Hawk
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: Libtoem on April 21, 2009, 01:44:00 PM
I never said it was hard to get and also I bet the author gave you permission to use his emu and then post about it on a public forum,and I have a pretty good idea who the leaker is.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: Mhawk134 on April 21, 2009, 02:19:00 PM
Your right the author did not, in fact I don't know who the author is, but I'm glad that he made what he made, it's a great app, why he or she does not want it to be out to the public is beyond me it's a great piece of software. It's still private, because only a select few can even use it, it's not like everybody has what is required to play the game. Sorry that I posted about it. I dont give out stuff that I was asked not too, so dont worry about that.  If it's something that I found on google myself I'll give it to people, but if I was asked not to give it out then I will not. Sorry if I upset you Libtoem, know any private forums where it's ok to talk about dev type content?

Hawk
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: Libtoem on April 21, 2009, 04:31:00 PM
Dude Im not pissed at all,its not your fault.Also one of the best places to talk about this kind of stuff is msn messenger,yahoo,aol and such.And I know your just excited about getting the emu's,so its no big deal.
I bet you only have two emu's and thats good enough.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: Mhawk134 on April 21, 2009, 07:09:00 PM
I've got 3 and the source code for 2 more. The only others I would like are N64 and NES, but I'm not sure if they exist or not.

Hawk
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: -DeToX- on April 21, 2009, 08:22:00 PM
QUOTE(Mhawk134 @ Apr 21 2009, 03:11 PM) View Post

I dont give out stuff that I was asked not too, so dont worry about that.

No you don't. You just do things like post about you obtaining that certain leaked file on a public forum in a sad attempt to gain some fame.

I also don't recall the author giving you permission to use it, or post about it..

Why don't I go steal your hard work you spent a lot of time in, and post about how cool it is, and that I got a leaked copy and I'm so proud I'm going to tell everyone... I don't know about you, but as the author that would quite anger me... I've had tons of my research stolen by little kids who have sold it, and them obtaining it and leaking it further or talking about it publicly is definitely out of any intentions I had wished for the project..

Have some fucking respect..
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: Mhawk134 on April 21, 2009, 09:11:00 PM
Well I'm not going to sell the software, and as I have stated I dont even know who the author is, so odviously I dont have permission to use it.  If he did not want his hard work to get out he should not have gave it out.  I have respect for the author it's a great app, I've never bashed it one bit.  Maybe if the people that did get it didn't give it out then the author wouldn't have to worry.  It's not my fault that people give out stuff, but I'm not, not going to ask for something.  If people don't have it or will not give it out thats fine.  But who ever does share it falls on them to make sure that the people they give it to will not give it out, don't get me wrong I'm glad that I did get it though.  And this is a topic that was made to talk about the software thats all that I was doing.  Like I said sorry if I offended you or anyone else.

Hawk
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: -DeToX- on April 23, 2009, 11:59:00 AM
QUOTE(Mhawk134 @ Apr 21 2009, 10:03 PM) *

Well I'm not going to sell the software, and as I have stated I dont even know who the author is, so odviously I dont have permission to use it.  If he did not want his hard work to get out he should not have gave it out.  I have respect for the author it's a great app, I've never bashed it one bit.  Maybe if the people that did get it didn't give it out then the author wouldn't have to worry.  It's not my fault that people give out stuff, but I'm not, not going to ask for something.  If people don't have it or will not give it out thats fine.  But who ever does share it falls on them to make sure that the people they give it to will not give it out, don't get me wrong I'm glad that I did get it though.  And this is a topic that was made to talk about the software thats all that I was doing.  Like I said sorry if I offended you or anyone else.

Hawk

What an ignorant and stupid thing to say. If he wanted to give his work to a friend, and not want it leaked, then the dumbass leaker shouldn't have leaked it.. Don't blame it on the developer.. Because what damn developer would want his own app leaked. Someone out there wanted to share it unauthorized and it got out..

We don't care you got the program, it's..

It is not your fault people leak something to you, but it's your fault you come here and post publically about it in a sad attempt to gain attention..

Good job.

This post has been edited by -DeToX-: Apr 23 2009, 07:01 PM
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: Mhawk134 on April 23, 2009, 04:45:00 PM
Ok this is getting out of hand, the developer gave it out to someone that shared it, like I said it's not my fault that the developers friends decided to give it out.  If I wanted to gain attention I would post the the thing on the net for all to use, have I done that no I have not, I talked about it thats all. And unless your the developer or you are the one that gave it to the guy that I got it from then it really isn't any of your business. Everytime I get something even if I don't talk about it your in my business asking who I got it from how I got it, does it really matter to you that much. I know you've done alot for dev consoles and I respect that, but I dont respect the attitude that you have towards me every time I get something.  

I've not once gave anything out that I've gotten all I do is talk about it, I was unaware that freedom of speech was taken away because I had something that I wasn't supposed to have. I'll make sure next time someone shares something that you'll be the first person I tell. Like Zouzzz told you there was no leak, it was just shared, I'm not the only one he gave it too either and they talk about it on those forums so why can't I, now if I was to turn around and post rapidshare links then that would be a leak, have I done that no, will I do that no. It's better to give the stuff to me then to give it to the people that gave it to me.  Because people that do not care are out there and will give stuff up by simply asking, while I thank them for what they do, I do however understand why people like you would get mad.  

With that being said let this topic die again you know how to reach me if you have anything else you want to say.

And as for the topic I'll post a youtube vid of the software in action so that others can feel the same excitement that I do about the emulator, once you edit the INI you can play the games from your HDD way better then USB, but u can still load them via usb if you choose.

Hawk

This post has been edited by Mhawk134: Apr 23 2009, 11:46 PM
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: jhonnypolak on March 01, 2010, 01:29:00 AM
I thought it would be fitting to bring up this old thread.

Is anyone working on porting a new version of MAME to the 360 now that homebrew is available for retail boxes ?
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: locvez on March 02, 2010, 03:03:00 AM
As far as i'm aware, MAME360 has already had a public release, and it works great, i'm sure it's at the usual places, can't remember what version is up but it works, and it's great.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: metalguitarist112 on March 02, 2010, 10:51:00 AM
It is 2 years out of date, which means you can't play newer roms.
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: locvez on March 03, 2010, 02:13:00 AM
Ahh, i see. Thanks for the clarification there, i didn't know that smile.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: althena on March 03, 2010, 04:10:00 AM
Also MAME360 was a nice proof of concept and actually really useful for older roms but not doesn't seem to be using the full potential of the Xbox 360s hardware, many games that didn't run full speed on the Xbox 1 are still doing so under MAME360.
A new MAME360 would be awesome of course, this is one project that would really profit from the Xbox 360s power and could surpass this way the already wonderful MAME ports on the Xbox 1  cool.gif
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: theguru1 on March 08, 2010, 07:17:00 AM
why was development stopped?? this is an awesome emulator...the power of the xbox 360 when make it very fast and stable...i wish i had the knowledge....to carry it on
Title: Xbox360 Homebrew in Progress: MAME360, ScummVM
Post by: HiGhLaNdR on December 20, 2010, 04:17:00 PM
Anyone tried Run and Gun (Slam Dunk)?
It's full of artifacts... sad.gif
Pitty there's no progress on mame for 360...!