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Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: Xbox-Scene on August 02, 2011, 11:09:00 PM
360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Posted by XanTium | August 3 01:09 EST | News Category: Xbox360
 
From 360lizard.com:
Quote

A man build it... a man crack it... after months of trial and error and several weird methods, and a Huge and Impressive effort on the tests. Geremia has made public the Kamikaze Winbond Unlock.

We will not lie, it is not for noobs, many drives have died in the tests to arrive to the method you will see on the video. But with all that, its the easiest it can get just now. We delayed the (by now old) Macronix trick while we make this trick as easiest as possible. Full note and comments of Geremia can be found here.

We have released now Gecko 1.17 to handle Winbond Unlock with this method, you will appreciate the possibility to do the unlock on your Workbench with a small standalone device like Lizard powered from usb-ac adapter instead of having to have a PC near for this particular job. :)

Full tutorial is being written and posted in the next 24 hours, but meanwhile we have prepared a small video of how to unlock the Winbond with kamikaze method using Lizard (Require Gecko 1.17)

Official Site: http://360lizard.com



Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: DaShiZNiT on August 03, 2011, 12:18:00 AM
Saw this earlier today. UNFUCKING REAL
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: HiTMaN-239 on August 03, 2011, 12:52:00 AM
Seriously, how does someone come up with this shit? lol.  

I could see MS employees trying to defend themselves to their bosses about this security breach.... "give us a break man, we really didn't think someone was going to drill the chip and then ignite it with a spark"
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: bubbafett4hire on August 03, 2011, 12:58:00 AM
Reminds me of days past dealing with certain plastic access cards minus the gecko defiantly will be giving this one a shot!!!
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: Darkflame on August 03, 2011, 01:09:00 AM
When you can't find a hole to exploit, you drill one. I love it!

I'm sure a lot of face palms will be happening tomorrow morning at the next emergency board meeting.
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: deilzfcjk on August 03, 2011, 02:08:00 AM
i gotta admit that is weird. I will be for sure trying this, lol. holy cow. How do people do it without that tungsten carbide engraving dremel bit? Lol. I have a few in my dremel set. I could start selling it here on this forum. I used it for wii d2b cut legs. lol
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: trasixes on August 03, 2011, 02:17:00 AM
Yep, this confirms it. I have now seen everything.

Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: micflair on August 03, 2011, 02:26:00 AM
jedwj m0wmedw mkeekma m0m2d32?

what the hell!!! How the fk did they suss that out. Kudos to you smart asses.
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: JackintheXbox on August 03, 2011, 02:26:00 AM
Allready done 2 winbonds.
Thank you Geremia and Maximus (Y)
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: tomgreen99200 on August 03, 2011, 02:43:00 AM
A Dremel drill while touching it with a resistor and then a lighter! lol Just crazy, great work!!
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: Zellcorp on August 03, 2011, 03:30:00 AM
Reminds me of marathon man, but......is it safe?    laugh.gif
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: Aldanga on August 03, 2011, 07:46:00 AM
QUOTE(HiTMaN-239 @ Aug 3 2011, 12:52 AM) View Post
Seriously, how does someone come up with this shit? lol.  

I could see MS employees trying to defend themselves to their bosses about this security breach.... "give us a break man, we really didn't think someone was going to drill the chip and then ignite it with a spark"

It's just Geremia. I have the greatest respect for the guy. He really knows his stuff.
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: ProphetOfPain on August 03, 2011, 10:42:00 AM
I been hacking different things for a long time... probably first was putting a stereo sid chip in my c64... HOWEVER... this just blew my mind.. my jaw dropped... spark from the aim n flame at the end was the icing on the cake.. lol AWESOME work guys.
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: ProphetOfPain on August 03, 2011, 01:17:00 PM
Have to get a slim back in here so I can perform this.  Got a  question in regards to using it with jungleflasher.  

Till a new jungleflasher is released to coincide do you just refresh the drive [..] as your drilling till it opens up?  And also in regards to a full dump.  I already have SLIMKEY from an 0225, but once the winbond is unlocked and click read next to erase will provide full dump along with key?  

I would answer my own questions but have to wait on a slim now but perhaps others are curious  :/  smile.gif
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: shyzza313 on August 03, 2011, 02:45:00 PM
WOW
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: Spooning on August 03, 2011, 05:02:00 PM
I love this stuff  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pop.gif) Bad mofo LEGENDS... THX
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: Riverpatrol on August 03, 2011, 05:33:00 PM
WOW! That is an impressive bypass.
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: RoboChicken on August 03, 2011, 05:58:00 PM
FIRE! FIRE!  muhaha.gif
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: crazycrak on August 03, 2011, 06:34:00 PM
Bravo Bravo. Can't believe this is the unlock method. Nice job Geremia. I bet M$ never thought anyone would ever try anything like this. Maybe they will give up for a while. I am laugh my ass off as I type this. WOW AND WOW.  tongue.gif
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: repa on August 03, 2011, 07:40:00 PM
INCREDIBLE!!!! EPIC!!!
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: infamousxx on August 04, 2011, 12:06:00 AM
works like a charm,unlocked mine etc flashed,but killed the drive lol just ordered another one
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: Spark on August 04, 2011, 09:57:00 AM
Absolutely incredible.
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: Darkflame on August 04, 2011, 11:33:00 AM
I did my first one. It worked like a charm but took me like 20 minutes drilling slow as hell case i was scared as $#%@.
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: ProphetOfPain on August 04, 2011, 12:49:00 PM
What are the steps without a lizard?  How to get into 72?  I have x360usb, ck3, via 6421, jungle 1.85, unlockspi.exe, russian unlock tool, resistor, dremel.. but can't get any love smile.gif  Do I just do a device intro on jungleflasher and drill?  When I run unlockspi from my via card I can't get vendor mode.. headache.. going eat.. help smile.gif
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: moh.sakhaii on August 04, 2011, 03:55:00 PM
LOL, lobotomy of Winbond chip, chip is quite harmless after this surgery, LOL smile.gif)
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: ProphetOfPain on August 04, 2011, 07:06:00 PM
WHAT IF YOU DONT HAVE A LIZARD?    can't i probe somewheres and get it into 72 then use unlockspi with my via?  Where do I probe the 0225?  Are we waiting for a new jungleflasher?  All I see is "AWESOME" and "WORKS GREAT" and i'm sittin' here with my dremel doing nothing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)  when I do find something related on the net besides the original video it's in other languages.

This post has been edited by ProphetOfPain: Aug 5 2011, 02:07 AM
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: troyBORG on August 05, 2011, 01:17:00 AM
I wish I knew what was going on in this.
I was distracted by the camera constantly refocusing.    I mean seriously how hard is it to put it on manual focus and focus on what your trying to show us.
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: lonedeath on August 05, 2011, 08:06:00 AM
Ok I just did this.

Worked fine and was able to read full firmware and write custom firmware back!

Slight problem though, now my drive wont open, you can hear something try to move for a split second, but nothing!

Well im not too worried i'll just get a new board.
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: danthaman673 on August 05, 2011, 01:18:00 PM
QUOTE(HiTMaN-239 @ Aug 3 2011, 04:22 PM) View Post

Seriously, how does someone come up with this shit? lol.  

I could see MS employees trying to defend themselves to their bosses about this security breach.... "give us a break man, we really didn't think someone was going to drill the chip and then ignite it with a spark"



QUOTE(micflair @ Aug 3 2011, 05:56 PM) View Post

jedwj m0wmedw mkeekma m0m2d32?

what the hell!!! How the fk did they suss that out. Kudos to you smart asses.

He had some inspiration ;-) then there was the other 99% ... (Geramia, I don't think ur lazy bro ;-)

QUOTE(ProphetOfPain @ Aug 5 2011, 10:36 AM) View Post

WHAT IF YOU DONT HAVE A LIZARD?    can't i probe somewheres and get it into 72 then use unlockspi with my via?  Where do I probe the 0225?  Are we waiting for a new jungleflasher?  All I see is "AWESOME" and "WORKS GREAT" and i'm sittin' here with my dremel doing nothing sad.gif  when I do find something related on the net besides the original video it's in other languages.


I have said before: If you ned to ask questions on this one , then perhaps you might consider outsourcing to someone with Crazy-Ninja-R&D skillz, AND/OR a cr@pload of spare PCB's from doing a cr@pload of PCB swaps previously, not many of us around ATM, we are in particularly short supply in the mod-world... and most of us are busy thinking this shit-up :-) There are a lot of ppl who claim to have done it successfully, and Geramia has done an amazing job of refining this trick... TBH, it's way past DIY for most ..Now we are starting to get the calls about the stuff-ups and ppl asking if we have replacement PCBs etc..

That said:

Supposadly this can be done with VIA 6421 (although it's not straightforward, Geramia doesn't give away all his meals fully cooked, it wouldn't be as much fun otherwise..)
You don't need a lizzard, I would suggest one of the cards/mobo's that are know to work well with 0225's(If you can't get a lizzard) This may mean some trial and error on ur part... Perhaps do a test-run MX first with the same setup if you can ...(ie; before you pull-out the dremel) There are plenty of tut's around, but I still think this is VERY dangerous and not worth wasting a PCB/Chip over unless you have one ready to replace (of the same kind eg; Winbond.. That might be an issue further down the track)

Please don't take this too personally, as most of the guys here think this mod is about as out-there as it gets, and ask me to re-explain the details almost daily (even the ones that know the procedure, not understanding can get u into trouble when things don't go to plan.) from a mechanical standpoint there is almost no margin for error, you can bet that ppl agonised over releasing this mod knowing how many chips will be ruined
 So when you ask ' Where do I probe the 0225' That demonstrates to me a level of understanding that I would suggest waiting for the refined versions (or the SW version) to come-out. This aint no MRA or PMT, don't go out and buy a Dremel-press&bits unless you already had them and the spare TX PCB & A lizzard (Unless you are competent at 0225 cards/key xtraction w/o one.. don't want to drill thru only to find-out ur card was incompatible etc..) Oh yeah you might consider a USB-microscope if you didn't have one... Now you  see why most ppl are outsourcing this one (more hassle and cost than it's worth to most ppl)Especially when most end-users pay around fitybucks for the privilege!

Anywayz enough with my scary-rants , If I still haven't put you off ..(Or made u wisely decided to burden some poor chump with the task) Post here or PM me (I'm kinda busy ATM) But I will do my best to help you : If you have an X360 USB: wait for JF integration (although it might be a little while , based on recent history - Generally speaking, TBH I would have expected it by now, my understanding is that it's just a 'WRSR 00 spi command flood' If not by JF, at least TX could have done a 3rd party or FW upgrade <maybe put that switch to good use?-kidding-> to tide us over, that is those of us who chose to support the X360 USB) Don't get me wrong, I'm not having a dig at anyone, I wonder if they know how many ppl are buying a lizzard for this task and future support of this nature ........and(somewhat unrelated) I think perhaps O has felt a little un-appreciated lately, his efforts often go overlooked by the fanboys as his releases are often in sync with FW .... I for one think he does a sterling job and still puts-out the best GUI (or otherwise for that matter) in the biz, even if some ppl get spoon-fed out of it tongue.gif Perhaps we could all keep that in mind next release ;-)


Back to work for me :-o
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: ProphetOfPain on August 05, 2011, 02:25:00 PM
QUOTE(danthaman673 @ Aug 5 2011, 08:18 PM) View Post

He had some inspiration ;-) then there was the other 99% ... (Geramia, I don't think ur lazy bro ;-)
I have said before: If you ned to ask questions on this one , then perhaps you might consider outsourcing to someone with Crazy-Ninja-R&D skillz, AND/OR a cr@pload of spare PCB's from doing a cr@pload of PCB swaps previously, not many of us around ATM, we are in particularly short supply in the mod-world... and most of us are busy thinking this shit-up :-) There are a lot of ppl who claim to have done it successfully, and Geramia has done an amazing job of refining this trick... TBH, it's way past DIY for most ..Now we are starting to get the calls about the stuff-ups and ppl asking if we have replacement PCBs etc..

That said:

Supposadly this can be done with VIA 6421 (although it's not straightforward, Geramia doesn't give away all his meals fully cooked, it wouldn't be as much fun otherwise..)
You don't need a lizzard, I would suggest one of the cards/mobo's that are know to work well with 0225's(If you can't get a lizzard) This may mean some trial and error on ur part... Perhaps do a test-run MX first with the same setup if you can ...(ie; before you pull-out the dremel) There are plenty of tut's around, but I still think this is VERY dangerous and not worth wasting a PCB/Chip over unless you have one ready to replace (of the same kind eg; Winbond.. That might be an issue further down the track)

Please don't take this too personally, as most of the guys here think this mod is about as out-there as it gets, and ask me to re-explain the details almost daily (even the ones that know the procedure, not understanding can get u into trouble when things don't go to plan.) from a mechanical standpoint there is almost no margin for error, you can bet that ppl agonised over releasing this mod knowing how many chips will be ruined
 So when you ask ' Where do I probe the 0225' That demonstrates to me a level of understanding that I would suggest waiting for the refined versions (or the SW version) to come-out. This aint no MRA or PMT, don't go out and buy a Dremel-press&bits unless you already had them and the spare TX PCB & A lizzard (Unless you are competent at 0225 cards/key xtraction w/o one.. don't want to drill thru only to find-out ur card was incompatible etc..) Oh yeah you might consider a USB-microscope if you didn't have one... Now you  see why most ppl are outsourcing this one (more hassle and cost than it's worth to most ppl)Especially when most end-users pay around fitybucks for the privilege!

Anywayz enough with my scary-rants , If I still haven't put you off ..(Or made u wisely decided to burden some poor chump with the task) Post here or PM me (I'm kinda busy ATM) But I will do my best to help you : If you have an X360 USB: wait for JF integration (although it might be a little while , based on recent history - Generally speaking, TBH I would have expected it by now, my understanding is that it's just a 'WRSR 00 spi command flood' If not by JF, at least TX could have done a 3rd party or FW upgrade <maybe put that switch to good use?-kidding-> to tide us over, that is those of us who chose to support the X360 USB) Don't get me wrong, I'm not having a dig at anyone, I wonder if they know how many ppl are buying a lizzard for this task and future support of this nature ........and(somewhat unrelated) I think perhaps O has felt a little un-appreciated lately, his efforts often go overlooked by the fanboys as his releases are often in sync with FW .... I for one think he does a sterling job and still puts-out the best GUI (or otherwise for that matter) in the biz, even if some ppl get spoon-fed out of it tongue.gif Perhaps we could all keep that in mind next release ;-)
Back to work for me :-o


Dan, I don't dislike you and I surely appreciate any help.  BUt you are not Geremia, C64, etc.etc. and we are ALL here for the same reason.  I have flashed hundreds of phats, rrod repairs, etc. etc.  Just because someone ask a question doesn't mean they aren't capable , just means they want to be sure.  Of course I own a dremel, soldering iron, etc etc because I am an electronics technician... doesn't mean I can fix everything, but I have the skills to get it done.  Regardless, I have everything I need BUT A LIZARD apparently, which is why I asked.  I believe I can put the drive into vendor mode by probing it (resistor from ground to ??) and then run spliunlock.exe ec00 to my via and drill and open it up.  I can't get 72!  So thanks for your help, sort of, not saying your not knowledgeable, but no way you can decide from the chair your sitting in whats someones capabilities are because they asked a question... which nobody can answer.  I will wait it out for a jungleflasher/tx360usb/other method surfaces or order a damn lizard next week if I can't figure it out without one.   Going slave on some more electronics myself!  Enjoy rest of your day.
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: OggyUK on August 05, 2011, 04:46:00 PM
QUOTE(danthaman673 @ Aug 5 2011, 08:18 PM) View Post

and(somewhat unrelated) I think perhaps O has felt a little un-appreciated lately, his efforts often go overlooked by the fanboys as his releases are often in sync with FW .... I for one think he does a sterling job and still puts-out the best GUI (or otherwise for that matter) in the biz, even if some ppl get spoon-fed out of it tongue.gif Perhaps we could all keep that in mind next release ;-)


If by O you mean me, I don't write (no longer even test) JF.
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: ProphetOfPain on August 06, 2011, 12:29:00 AM
Hey Dan, just letting ya know that I just snagged the new jungleflasher hit intro and it told me about the spi, I let it ..... and I went at it with the dremel...  how easy.  If you mess it up you just don't have a steady hand or can't count and mark the pins/lines correctly.  Got full dump, write etc.  Only thing I can't figure out now is how to lock it back, but will ask in new jf thread.  Hey, since I don't know how to lock it back does that mean I shouldn't be trying?  mail it to a pro!? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This post has been edited by ProphetOfPain: Aug 6 2011, 07:33 AM
Title: 360Lizard: Gecko 1.17 Released, Winbond Unlock Support
Post by: dragon45801 on August 07, 2011, 12:56:00 AM
So this applies to stock 0225 correct? Is there any way to tell if a console has Winbond? Such as lot number or anything? Thanks for the help