Post by: Xbox-Scene on November 11, 2006, 03:32:00 PM
| A driver is released to allow the use of the Xbox360's HD-DVDROM on your pc! The same day the XBOX360 HD-DVDROM Addon was released to the public in USA, we at blueprint figured out how to use it in windows, now as of this moment, officially, the movie that came with the hardware "King Kong" is currently a Dual Layer (30GB) disc so it would appear the studios are aiming for that size minimally for the majority of movies to start off with at least, this of course mean's you will not be directly copying any hd-dvd's as of yet. However, the most important thing is were now able to read the UDF (Universal Disc Filesystem) v2.5 which is currently used by the Toshiba Corp with there first generation HD-DVDRom drives. You can see the entire contents of the HD-DVD Media when in the drive. Again, these are litterally Toshiba Corp drivers for the file system used with HD-DVD. We did not create these drivers ourselves, so we cannot modify them, however there availability is limited to specific machines which were familiar with from our places of business, and we will continue to get the latest updates of these drivers and make them available to you as they're released to us. Full Readme: xbins.org Download: n/a (May be illegal Under EUCD/DMCA) |
Post by: Textbook on November 11, 2006, 03:01:00 PM
Post by: S8N on November 11, 2006, 03:01:00 PM
Shows as - TOSHIBA DVD/HD X807616 USB Device
BATMAN_BEGINS_HDDVD / 24.8 GB
Post by: G0t M4xx 21 on November 11, 2006, 03:19:00 PM
Post by: postaldude25 on November 11, 2006, 03:32:00 PM
'hope it plays movies via windows media player.
i have my PC hoolked up to my 1080P tv via DVI to HDMI and if it plays movies it would be great!!
my tv does not suport 1080P trough VGA only 720P
This post has been edited by postaldude25: Nov 11 2006, 11:33 PM
Post by: Madskilz182 on November 11, 2006, 03:39:00 PM
I bet reading the filesystem is XP is gonna open up a whole new world of possibilities
Post by: gnutellafan on November 11, 2006, 03:42:00 PM
Post by: asspop on November 11, 2006, 03:29:00 PM
Post by: Austin7687 on November 11, 2006, 05:49:00 PM
So does anyone know if there is some HD DVD player software out there for the PC? WinDVD and PowerDVD have the capability, but only versions that come bundled with HD DVD drives, and I'm not buying another one of those!
Post by: youdontknow on November 11, 2006, 06:08:00 PM
Post by: Austin7687 on November 11, 2006, 06:38:00 PM
QUOTE
^^^ cant you just download it?
Nope. Not that I know of.
On a different note, has anyone had trouble with their copy of King Kong? Mine drops frames like f*cking crazy!
Post by: big1 on November 11, 2006, 07:59:00 PM
QUOTE(G0t M4xx 21 @ Nov 11 2006, 04:50 PM) 
so can you play HD-DVD movies with WMP? Or just view the contents of the disk
Wondering the same thing. Hope someone will answer.
Post by: mrdan on November 11, 2006, 09:01:00 PM
Check here:
http://blogs.msdn.com/xboxteam/archive/200...rgence-day.aspx
"All 6 of Xbox 360's hardware threads are hard at work while playing back an HD DVD. At the moment, the player software pushes Xbox 360 harder than any other (save, perhaps, Gears of War during some particularly busy parts of the game)."
This makes it extremely doubtful that you will be able to play HD DVD movies from this drive.
Post by: Austin7687 on November 11, 2006, 09:11:00 PM
But it would be my guess that if a commercial program wouldn't work, some homebrew stuff would likely pop up to fill the gap.
Post by: averian on November 11, 2006, 09:52:00 PM
Post by: Maverick-DBZ- on November 11, 2006, 09:18:00 PM
If MS won't do it someone else WILL! 
I wish that person or persons the best of LUCK!
Post by: Questioner on November 11, 2006, 10:13:00 PM
Post by: Austin7687 on November 11, 2006, 10:15:00 PM
I know it drops frames on most 720p files, but one can always hope.
Post by: assmonkey on November 12, 2006, 01:03:00 AM
Post by: quantum29 on November 12, 2006, 01:21:00 AM
QUOTE(Questioner @ Nov 12 2006, 04:44 AM) 
I have no doubt some things will be released very shortly to allow playing of hd dvds from the pc. What's more interesting is once software is made is if this cheap pc drive will lead to more "scene" releases of hd dvd movies to download. Right now, all you usually find in newsgroup binaries are hd movies ripped from tv, so not as new of releases as hd dvds.
The codec to play the file will not be a problem it is just an MPEG2 or MPEG4 stream.
The problem is that it is encrypted was above the level that DVD's are encrypted. It will be a long time before this encryption is broken
AACS..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Access_Content_System
Post by: The Zep Man on November 12, 2006, 01:21:00 AM
QUOTE(averian @ Nov 12 2006, 05:23 AM)
Does this mean we are not far before someone rips it, encodes it with heavy compression with h.264, and fits it on a regular DVD?
Post by: electronic_detailers on November 12, 2006, 03:18:00 AM
QUOTE(averian @ Nov 12 2006, 05:23 AM)
Does this mean we are not far before someone rips it, encodes it with heavy compression with h.264, and fits it on a regular DVD?
And the point of that would be what?
Post by: Xtreme360 on November 12, 2006, 04:23:00 AM
QUOTE(Questioner @ Nov 12 2006, 05:44 AM)
I have no doubt some things will be released very shortly to allow playing of hd dvds from the pc. What's more interesting is once software is made is if this cheap pc drive will lead to more "scene" releases of hd dvd movies to download. Right now, all you usually find in newsgroup binaries are hd movies ripped from tv, so not as new of releases as hd dvds.
I would watch out..I was banned under another name for saying something as ridiclus as this...The Mods will Start crying about you talking about scene releases and warez....
Post by: Apache14 on November 12, 2006, 04:05:00 AM
QUOTE(assmonkey @ Nov 12 2006, 07:34 AM)
.SO if u even get it working on pc , u will need a really good graphic card and cpu to push it.THe new nvidia cards support hdcp so i see it ment to be working soon on a pc but problity only with vista.
most people are saying to play a HD-DVD on a pc you will need at least
- Pentium EE 840 or AMD x2 400+
- A 256mb graphics card with HDCP (DVI, HDMI connections)
- The graphics card will need hd support so avivo for ati and pure-video-hd for NVidia
- 1GB ram
- XP sp2
The recomended graphics cards are ati X1600, X1800, X1900. Nvidia 7600, 7800, 7900
Post by: fakesky on November 12, 2006, 05:36:00 AM
which supports hd-dvd?
I've got mine preordered, but it's not here until the end of the month, at best.
Someone at AVS tried nicking the drives from the standalone players, and it worked like a charm.
If you can read the disc, then there should be no problem playing it with a sanctioned player
unless some hardware or disc-specific restrictions apply.
/Per
This post has been edited by fakesky: Nov 12 2006, 01:37 PM
Post by: Questioner on November 12, 2006, 08:11:00 AM
QUOTE(quantum29 @ Nov 12 2006, 07:52 AM)
The codec to play the file will not be a problem it is just an MPEG2 or MPEG4 stream.
The problem is that it is encrypted was above the level that DVD's are encrypted. It will be a long time before this encryption is broken
AACS..
http://en.wikipedia...._Content_System
Long time? If your definition of long time is a few months (at most). I love how everytime a new encryption format is used some people expect it to last for years without being broken. The encryption may be more advanced, but so are hackers. It will not even be as difficult as coming up with a halfway practical solution for mainstream users to play backups on the 360. Far less involved when it comes to just getting the video and audio data off of media played on sp many standalone players.
Post by: quantum29 on November 12, 2006, 08:20:00 AM
QUOTE(Questioner @ Nov 12 2006, 03:18 PM)
Long time? If your definition of long time is a few months (at most). I love how everytime a new encryption format is used some people expect it to last for years without being broken. The encryption may be more advanced, but so are hackers. It will not even be as difficult as coming up with a halfway practical solution for mainstream users to play backups on the 360. Far less involved when it comes to just getting the video and audio data off of media played on sp many standalone players.
According to that wiki article the author of DeCSS will have a tool available by March. I am sure the system will fall if not then but soon after.
To me though that is a long time ! but i suppose it isnt.
Post by: Steveplaya on November 12, 2006, 09:06:00 AM
Post by: mlapaglia on November 12, 2006, 09:12:00 AM
Post by: Steveplaya on November 12, 2006, 09:58:00 AM
Post by: Anubis-MG on November 12, 2006, 10:04:00 AM
I have the new xbox360 HD-DVD player hooked up to my pc and it plays HD-DVD's fine.
I also have the driver files need as shown in the news on the front page of this site for who ever wants it.
Here is the download link.
http://www.uploading.com/files/ZU326SNR/XB...ePrint.rar.html
You need a beefy pc though if thats what you guys want it for is only playback.
I have not even tried ripping a disc yet maybe later today I will give it a shot.
Works on both the newest version of nero Showtime,and Power DVD 7 and beta 8.
My pc specs..
E6700
Asus P5B-DX Wifi
G.Skill x2 1GB pc800 6400
Evga 7950GT 512MB W/HDCP
Lite-On x18 DL +/-DVD RW W/Light Scribe
Post by: Apache14 on November 12, 2006, 10:08:00 AM
Post by: S8N on November 12, 2006, 10:44:00 AM
QUOTE(Anubis-MG @ Nov 12 2006, 12:04 PM)
Works on both the newest version of nero Showtime,and Power DVD 7 and beta 8.
I only have PowerDVD 7.0 installed and it replied it was an unsupported disc format.
Maybe you have a later build of PowerDVD.
Post by: Apache14 on November 12, 2006, 11:52:00 AM
This post has been edited by Apache14: Nov 12 2006, 07:55 PM
Post by: agentbb007 on November 12, 2006, 12:32:00 PM
QUOTE(quantum29 @ Nov 12 2006, 08:52 AM)
The codec to play the file will not be a problem it is just an MPEG2 or MPEG4 stream.
Actually all HD DVD's that have been released so far have been compressed with the VC1 codec. But the HD DVD standard does support studios using MPEG-2 AND MPEG-4 if they choose to use old compression techniques. But for now all the studios have selected VC1 as their codec of choice for HD DVD's.
Post by: Landlocked on November 12, 2006, 12:45:00 PM
QUOTE(mrdan @ Nov 11 2006, 11:32 PM)
It's extremely likely that this will only allow viewing of the file structure. MSFT included no sort of decoder on the drive's hardware (your computer doesn't have one either) and Major Nelson commented that it took 4.7 million lines of code to get the drive to play.
Check here:
http://blogs.msdn.com/xboxteam/archive/200...rgence-day.aspx
"All 6 of Xbox 360's hardware threads are hard at work while playing back an HD DVD. At the moment, the player software pushes Xbox 360 harder than any other (save, perhaps, Gears of War during some particularly busy parts of the game)."
This makes it extremely doubtful that you will be able to play HD DVD movies from this drive.
...and it took DVD Jon about 12 lines of code to make DVD's play from your hard drive too...
Post by: mrdan on November 12, 2006, 12:53:00 PM
QUOTE(Landlocked @ Nov 12 2006, 01:45 PM)
...and it took DVD Jon about 12 lines of code to make DVD's play from your hard drive too...
Correction: that's what it took to remove the copy protection.
Making the thing play is a whole different story. Apparently some people are saying it does play, which is not impossible, but I wasn't aware that there were any software decoders out for Windows. Also, it was my hypothesis that since the 360 used much of it's processing power (according to Major Nelson's post) in order to play the disc, that it wouldn't be possible for awhile since our computers currently aren't as powerful as the 360.
Post by: Apache14 on November 12, 2006, 01:00:00 PM
Also there are a few decoders which probably can decode the HD-DVD's
Post by: Anubis-MG on November 12, 2006, 01:07:00 PM
It says High Definition in big bold red letters when you first start the program up.
I was also using/playing around with power dvd beta 8 but its all in chinese or some other asian script but
you can navigate loading a DVD or HD-DVD by the typical shape icons like sqare,triangle,arrows,ect..
So I reinstalled the Power DVD 7 Deluxe and will remain using this untill something better comes and runs in
English.
Dont quote me on this either but I think windows media player 11 not the beta but the full version also plays
HD-DVDs using Nvidia's Pure-HD drivers and codec.
If you guys cant get your HD-DVD's to play on your pc remember you need a HDCP Video card.
I also cannot claim that I have tried every HD-DVD out there either as I only own 4 as of now.
KingKong,Ray,Constintine,and Polar Express which of the 4 all play great on my pc using the 360's HD-DVD
add on drive.
Post by: agentbb007 on November 12, 2006, 01:29:00 PM
QUOTE(Anubis-MG @ Nov 12 2006, 09:07 PM)
If you guys cant get your HD-DVD's to play on your pc remember you need a HDCP Video card.
You don't need any HDCP shit right now the movie studios haven't turned that on any HD DVD's they've released yet.
To quote wiki "Movie studios are apparently in agreement to not include the ICT flag on any HD DVDs or Blu-ray Discs in the immediate future."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP
Post by: Ytterbium on November 12, 2006, 01:29:00 PM
You can download the VC1 encoder from MS, surely you must be able to decode with this installed?
Post by: agentbb007 on November 12, 2006, 02:13:00 PM
QUOTE(Anubis-MG @ Nov 12 2006, 01:07 PM)
If you guys cant get your HD-DVD's to play on your pc remember you need a HDCP Video card.
I found another wiki article on the ICT. Seems Hollywood has agreed not to turn on the ICT until 2012, thank god because I have a 42" plasma and 24" lcd that don't support HDCP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_Constraint_Token
Post by: bhazard on November 12, 2006, 07:44:00 PM
Post by: generalnewbie on November 12, 2006, 09:33:00 PM
QUOTE(quantum29 @ Nov 12 2006, 08:52 AM)
The codec to play the file will not be a problem it is just an MPEG2 or MPEG4 stream.
The problem is that it is encrypted was above the level that DVD's are encrypted. It will be a long time before this encryption is broken
AACS..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Access_Content_System
i think that.. DVD Jon has already made a remark about how he would work on cracking it. Time will tell. As for the Xbox 360 HD DVD drive i would love to see some pics of the people claiming they have got video playback with there PC from the addon, and i wouldnt be reading hot air.
Post by: Steveplaya on November 13, 2006, 12:58:00 AM
Post by: Apache14 on November 13, 2006, 08:02:00 AM
Post by: abr27440 on November 13, 2006, 08:13:00 AM
Post by: Maverick-DBZ- on November 13, 2006, 04:19:00 PM
QUOTE(mlapaglia @ Nov 12 2006, 07:43 AM)
hmmm, i bought a copy of nero, and found some keys online which enabled it to play blu-ray and hd-dvds.. it says "Blu-ray/HD DVD Playback Plug-in" hmm.. any thoughts?
Those plug-ins are to add support for the upcoming HD-DVD and Blu-Ray burners. They will remain doing nothing until the new drives are released.
Just so you know, you shouldn't be talking about finding keys online as the mods/admins don't like it and it could result in you getting banned.
Post by: quantum29 on November 14, 2006, 12:43:00 AM
QUOTE(generalnewbie @ Nov 13 2006, 04:33 AM) 
i think that.. DVD Jon has already made a remark about how he would work on cracking it. Time will tell. As for the Xbox 360 HD DVD drive i would love to see some pics of the people claiming they have got video playback with there PC from the addon, and i wouldnt be reading hot air.
Dvd Jon has it mentions him at the bottom of the wiki article
Post by: xymor on November 18, 2006, 10:08:00 AM
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Post by: billynomates on February 24, 2007, 08:33:00 AM
dont know if this as been covered but you only need to install the udf 2.5 file if your using the likes of windows as vista comes complete with it