Post by: iTry on December 14, 2009, 01:07:00 AM
got xexloader on there and already made a game play from hdd without dvd
now my next question is....
is the mame360 for retail consoles the one i want
if so where do i put my rom files on the hdd to load them
been moving files around for about 20 minutes, then decided to look for an answer
couldnt find one so now im asking for one
Post by: FinsternIRL on December 14, 2009, 06:28:00 AM
Post by: iTry on December 14, 2009, 06:28:00 AM
This post has been edited by iTry: Dec 14 2009, 02:30 PM
Post by: wackwick on December 14, 2009, 02:35:00 PM
when i specify such a path in the options.ini file mame detects no roms and just crashes... ive been using le fluffie app to read content packages to see if i can find some paths specified that will help me determine what to do... i tried relative paths (../roms/) didnt work... full paths like stated above, didnt work either... ive failed miserably so far.. not sure what to do... i found a file on GTA expansion pack that had a path like (e1:/..) but this seemed to point to the content package itself... havent tried it yet tho...
can anyone help? i would really like to put my roms on the 360 hdd... outise of the con file would be prefered but i guess inside it would be better than on USB...
Post by: iTry on December 14, 2009, 05:38:00 PM
dont have a compatable usb device to boot from
Post by: dave11674 on December 14, 2009, 10:07:00 PM
in the options its pointing to the usb device
i have a 160gb freecom drive
ive formatted this to FAT32
but the 360 does not pick it up when i run xexloader
ive pressed X to refresh device list but no go
can any1 shed a littel light here pls (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
dave
Post by: Stripey_Horse on December 15, 2009, 05:34:00 AM
QUOTE(dave11674 @ Dec 15 2009, 05:07 AM) 
yes me too
in the options its pointing to the usb device
i have a 160gb freecom drive
ive formatted this to FAT32
but the 360 does not pick it up when i run xexloader
ive pressed X to refresh device list but no go
can any1 shed a littel light here pls
dave
make sure its got a least one folder and file on the drive..
Post by: under420dog on December 15, 2009, 09:58:00 PM
Post by: j3ll3 on December 16, 2009, 06:36:00 AM
QUOTE(under420dog @ Dec 16 2009, 05:58 AM) 
don't you have to format the drive fro the 360!
correct. format in Xbox 360
if you'd want games to load from within the live container make it rompath= game:/Roms ... you'd need a dir named Roms inside the root, throw all your roms in there, then pack it.
Post by: XboX-ZERO on December 18, 2009, 01:58:00 PM
Also what video setting they run on. 480i/480p/720p/1080i/1080p. I just got my xbr'ed 360. Now I need to find a 0.112 rom set.
running off a 8gb usb stick.
Post by: iTry on December 19, 2009, 12:40:00 PM
got my roms to load of external usb device
but when i change my ini file to point to hdd:\emus\mame\roms
i get a big fat nothing
my paths are 100% correct
anyone wanna shed some light
any easier way of doing this
Post by: iTry on December 20, 2009, 12:13:00 AM
i have 15gb+ of mame roms and i cant container them all
thinking of making several mame containers for specific developers, or maybe just my favorites
Post by: psyco118 on December 22, 2009, 04:15:00 PM
QUOTE(FinsternIRL @ Dec 14 2009, 01:28 PM)
for Mame360 for retail xbox you need to put them on a usb device in root:\Emus\Mame\roms\ with the xex version you can edit the file to point to any location
i have the same prob mame just doesnt see the roms ive put the usb in the back of the xbox and front it just doesnt see it and after about 10 secs the xbox just crashes and i have to restart it ? ,can i use any rom mame rom or is there a site to get mame360 roms from whats the best site for roms
Post by: blackwolf on December 24, 2009, 10:02:00 PM
Post by: danked on December 25, 2009, 09:12:00 PM
Post by: coreyinoz on January 08, 2010, 08:03:00 AM
QUOTE(danked @ Dec 26 2009, 05:12 AM)
also tried to put the roms in Emus\Mame\roms\ didn't work.
This actually worked for me after I deleted the .ini file.
So MS internal HD \Emus\Mame\roms\
Next issue - MAME won't load any of them. Any advice here? I have a half-dozen old roms that load fine under MAMEOX for xbox1. On MAME360 it just goes through the loading screen, pauses, then back to MAME menu.
Thanks,
coreyinoz
Post by: wolfson8471 on January 08, 2010, 11:20:00 AM
QUOTE(iTry @ Dec 20 2009, 07:13 AM)
okay got the container built, just really dissapointed that i can only make it 4gb
i have 15gb+ of mame roms and i cant container them all
thinking of making several mame containers for specific developers, or maybe just my favorites
Instead of building your own container use QuickBoot v1.1 and create a "games on demand" container shortcut pointing to the .xex (or demo container if your prefer) No need to worry about the 4gb limitation with this method.
Post by: mathieulh on January 08, 2010, 11:36:00 AM
CODE
usb:....\Device\Mass0...dvd:....\Device\Cdrom0
so setting another one will fail, there is still a way though, you can set game:\ in the .ini filethis way : rompath = game:\Emus\Mame\roms
game:\ being the folder which contains mame's xex.
Then it will work.
patching with an hex editor the device map string changing it to the following
CODE
hdd:....\Device\Harddisk0\Partition1
might have worked but the path lenght is too big for it to respect the original one.P.S. To those who could not figure it out, the in rom menu is accessed by using left trigger + a
This post has been edited by mathieulh: Jan 8 2010, 08:22 PM
Post by: coreyinoz on January 09, 2010, 11:20:00 AM
QUOTE(coreyinoz @ Jan 8 2010, 04:03 PM)
This actually worked for me after I deleted the .ini file.
So MS internal HD \Emus\Mame\roms\
Next issue - MAME won't load any of them. Any advice here? I have a half-dozen old roms that load fine under MAMEOX for xbox1. On MAME360 it just goes through the loading screen, pauses, then back to MAME menu.
Thanks,
coreyinoz
Turns out that deleting the .ini file is not good advice. It will make the ROMS show up if you use the default folder places, but prevent roms from loading.
Better solution is to fix the paths in your .ini properly so MAME sees the roms, and then they boot.
All is good now.
PS - Left trigger plus A brings up MAME menu, Left trigger plus push RS brings you back to MAME rom list
coreyinoz
Post by: modslave on January 10, 2010, 04:31:00 PM
QUOTE(coreyinoz @ Jan 9 2010, 06:20 PM)
Turns out that deleting the .ini file is not good advice. It will make the ROMS show up if you use the default folder places, but prevent roms from loading.
Better solution is to fix the paths in your .ini properly so MAME sees the roms, and then they boot.
All is good now.
coreyinoz
I agree editing the .ini seems the way to go but can you give us an exact example of what address you have in yours? Im trying to load off internal hdd not usb and have tried everything
Post by: mathieulh on January 11, 2010, 09:08:00 AM
anything other than usb, dvd or game will fail because such devices as hdd are not defined in the mame binary.
This post has been edited by mathieulh: Jan 11 2010, 05:09 PM
Post by: modslave on January 11, 2010, 12:00:00 PM
QUOTE(mathieulh @ Jan 11 2010, 04:08 PM)
Just look at my post, as I said use game:\ as a device ini the option.ini file . game:\ maps to the folder where your xex is contained.
anything other than usb, dvd or game will fail because such devices as hdd are not defined in the mame binary.
Christ this is doing my head in
I already look thick on this thread so one more wont make any diff
my xex is on internal drive at Hdd1:\EMUS\mame
my roms are in Hdd1:\EMUS\Roms
Tried changing Hdd1 to game and couple of others tries I won't mention. Does someone want to put me out of my misery and shame?
Post by: BIMPtacular on January 11, 2010, 10:19:00 PM
Post by: coreyinoz on January 14, 2010, 11:19:00 AM
QUOTE(modslave @ Jan 11 2010, 08:00 PM)
my xex is on internal drive at Hdd1:\EMUS\mame
my roms are in Hdd1:\EMUS\Roms
There's your problem. Unless you are changing the .ini file, everything should be below \Mame
Example;
hdd1\emus\mame
hdd1\emus\mame\roms
etc...
Then edit your .ini so the root of all paths is game:\ (as mentioned above).
Example;
game:\roms
etc.
Then all will work, and all is good.
QUOTE(BIMPtacular @ Jan 12 2010, 06:19 AM)
Why do the vast majority of my roms not show up at all? I have all of them zipped and tried renaming some of them and they still don't show. Weird.
Possibly because this build of MAME is from 2007, and you're looking at newer roms?
Would be nice if somebody updated this build for sure...
Post by: modslave on January 14, 2010, 12:15:00 PM
QUOTE(coreyinoz @ Jan 14 2010, 06:19 PM)
There's your problem. Unless you are changing the .ini file, everything should be below \Mame
Example;
hdd1\emus\mame
hdd1\emus\mame\roms
etc...
Then edit your .ini so the root of all paths is game:\ (as mentioned above).
Example;
game:\roms
etc.
Thanks coreyinoz for your reply.
Although when reading it I realized I made a mistake in my post, I DO have the folder structure YOU stated ie
hdd1\emus\mame
hdd1\emus\mame\roms
and I had already changed my ini to
rompath = game:\EMUS\mame\Roms
And they do not work. Also tried rompath = game:\Roms does the character case matter?
Post by: coreyinoz on January 14, 2010, 10:47:00 PM
Cut and paste of my .ini file;
rompath = game:\roms
samplepath = game:\samples
cfg_directory = game:\cfg
nvram_directory = game:\nvram
memcard_directory = game:\memcard
input_directory = game:\inp
state_directory = game:\sta
artpath = game:\artwork
snapshot_directory = game:\snap
diff_directory = game:\diff
ctrlrpath = game:\ctrlr
comment_directory = game:\comments
cheat_file = game:\cheat.dat
title_path = game:\titles
autoframeskip = 0
I have it installed into an internal hardrive at location
\Emus\Mame (mame360.xex in here)
\Emus\Mame\Media (.ini file and other supporting files in here)
\Emus\Mame\roms (guess what goes here)
That's it. If you can't get it working now, not sure what else to say.
Good luck.
Post by: modslave on January 15, 2010, 11:18:00 AM
I finally have it working (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pop.gif)
As you are also running from internal drive I started from scratch copying yours including the letter case of folders and copy pasted the ini and hey presto
Post by: problem_child on January 15, 2010, 06:58:00 PM
Post by: hazed69 on January 15, 2010, 09:58:00 PM
do i make one?
and if so how?
Post by: problem_child on January 15, 2010, 10:37:00 PM
I found out what I was doing wrong I had both Mame360's on my hard drive and it was messing up each other. The method coreyinoz posted does work sorry for any confusion.
Post by: joshwaan2k on January 16, 2010, 12:49:00 AM
Can anyone tell me in the following games run full speed.
Mortal Kombat 2
NBA Jam
Primal Rage
Street fighter Alpha 3
If not could it be due to the Xbox's CPU not be utilized properly?
Thanks
Post by: problem_child on January 16, 2010, 02:24:00 AM
Street Fighter Alpha 1,2 and 3 run fine.
The first SFA3 rom I found didn't run that good but the one I have now runs fine.
NBA Jam runs fine but NBA Hangtime ran slow with no sound.
I haven't tried Primal Rage.
Post by: joshwaan2k on January 16, 2010, 02:40:00 AM
Not this video is it.
even SSF2 looked slow lol
Found this video quite good how it compares XB1 vs. X360 http://www.dailymoti...-360_videogames
I find it hard to believe MK2 will not run full speed with sound.
I guess the Mame emulator need's to be optimised.
I've Been looking over the specs of the CPU in the 360 wow its big diff over the original.
With Mame do you always have to go back to dash once you exit a rom?
Post by: Pulsemasta on January 16, 2010, 06:32:00 AM
I hated that about Mame on Xbox 1 ... no sound :-/
Post by: joshwaan2k on January 16, 2010, 02:31:00 PM
So I find it hard to belive the xbox 360 can't run that game full speed.
Post by: wackwick on January 17, 2010, 05:50:00 PM
Post by: wyldstallions on January 18, 2010, 06:01:00 AM
have changed the ini file so all the paths are as game:Emus\Mame\roms etc. and have created all the other folders as in the ini file.
If I load mame up it shows some roms (just a couple of test ones at the moment) which I select and the screen goes black, then briefly flashes up a loading bar which looks to get to 100%. Then the screen goes black again and after a few seconds it goes back to the mame menu.
Any ideas whats going on or wrong ?
Post by: coreyinoz on January 20, 2010, 10:43:00 AM
QUOTE(wyldstallions @ Jan 18 2010, 02:01 PM)
I have mame360 on my external usb drive, and have the folder Emus\Mame\roms inside the mame360 folder.
have changed the ini file so all the paths are as game:Emus\Mame\roms etc. and have created all the other folders as in the ini file.
If I load mame up it shows some roms (just a couple of test ones at the moment) which I select and the screen goes black, then briefly flashes up a loading bar which looks to get to 100%. Then the screen goes black again and after a few seconds it goes back to the mame menu.
Any ideas whats going on or wrong ?
You're not reading closely enough.
When you change your .ini to game:\* you don't need to put in the full path any more like game:\emus\mame\roms...
if you use game:\*, Mame will take "game" as the folder it's being run from, and everything is below that.
go back to the post on page 2 for a correctly formated .ini
QUOTE(joshwaan2k @ Jan 16 2010, 10:40 AM)
I find it hard to believe MK2 will not run full speed with sound.
I guess the Mame emulator need's to be optimised.
I've Been looking over the specs of the CPU in the 360 wow its big diff over the original.
It's worth noting that this is the only build of MAME360 that I've found, and it's over 2 years old. If you read the posts of the time, it appears to be a proof of concept. It's not hard to believe there's no optimization. What we need is somebody to update to the latest port, and optimize a bit.
Alas, I haven't seen any thread of people volunteering to do this, so we may be waiting a while.
QUOTE(joshwaan2k @ Jan 16 2010, 10:40 AM)
With Mame do you always have to go back to dash once you exit a rom?
Left trigger plus A brings up MAME in-game menu, Left trigger plus push RS brings you back to MAME rom list
Post by: DiamondKing1976 on January 22, 2010, 06:52:00 PM
I am using MAME360 XEX. I have my roms on a DVD. I have run the XEX from HDD and USB and have edited the options.ini file. I can not get a list of my roms to come up.
Is it possible to read the roms off of a DVD in MAME360.
DVD Example Structure:
DVD:\Rom 1\Games
DVD:\Rom 2\Games
Etc.
Line from options.ini:
rompath = dvd:\
What am I missing? Thanks for your help.
This post has been edited by DiamondKing1976: Jan 23 2010, 03:03 AM
Post by: joshwaan2k on January 23, 2010, 02:09:00 AM
Yeah it appears no one's showing a lot of interest
. It's funny I mainly got a Jtag xbox just for MAME and SNES 
.I'm tried Mortal Kombat 1,2,3
MK1 full speed
MK2 43/53FPS
MK3 42/53FPS
So hoping that once someone becomes interested, they can optimise the emulator a bit so these become fully playable
Post by: BlueSlingShot on January 26, 2010, 08:05:00 PM
QUOTE(joshwaan2k @ Jan 23 2010, 10:09 AM)
Thanks for replying coreyinoz
Yeah it appears no one's showing a lot of interest
. It's funny I mainly got a Jtag xbox just for MAME and SNES .Dude you have to check out the xbox 1 forums, especially the emulator forums if you want some good HD console/arcade emulation. There's "alot of interest " there.
Modding an original xbox is worlds easier than the 360. It doesn't sound like MAME360 is not very user friendly at all
Post by: domina on January 27, 2010, 08:55:00 AM
mame360 is also kind of old. there are a lot of new mame releases after that 360 release.
Post by: taunt00 on January 30, 2010, 09:54:00 PM
rompath = game:\mame\roms
samplepath = game:\mame\samples
cfg_directory = game:\mame\cfg
nvram_directory = game:\mame\nvram
memcard_directory = game:\mame\memcard
input_directory = game:\mame\inp
state_directory = game:\mame\sta
artpath = game:\mame\artwork
snapshot_directory = game:\mame\snap
diff_directory = game:\mame\diff
ctrlrpath = game:\mame\ctrlr
comment_directory = game:\mame\comments
cheat_file = game:\mame\cheat.dat
title_path = game:\mame\titles
autoframeskip = 0
So what am I doing wrong?
Post by: joshwaan2k on January 31, 2010, 01:29:00 AM
THis is how I got my games to run.
I installed the emu to the xbox's HDD content folder.
I just then put my roms into USB:/emus/mame/roms and it works fine for me.
Biggest problem I'm having is getting the snaps I take to work with the roms.
I placed the snaps I take are in USB:/emus/mame/snaps and still will not show any suggestions guys?
Thanks
Josh
Post by: taunt00 on February 01, 2010, 02:11:00 AM
QUOTE(joshwaan2k @ Jan 31 2010, 09:29 AM)
Not sure what's happening there mate.
THis is how I got my games to run.
I installed the emu to the xbox's HDD content folder.
I just then put my roms into USB:/emus/mame/roms and it works fine for me.
Biggest problem I'm having is getting the snaps I take to work with the roms.
I placed the snaps I take are in USB:/emus/mame/snaps and still will not show any suggestions guys?
Thanks
Josh
That kinda worked... It saw the roms ,but when I try to launch it will do nothing, but go back to the mame menu, Might not like my usb thumb drive. Christ mame is a pain to get working correctly.
hehe thanks.
Post by: rocky5 on February 01, 2010, 07:57:00 AM
QUOTE(DiamondKing1976 @ Jan 23 2010, 01:52 AM)
Ok read everything on this thread. Here is my problem.
I am using MAME360 XEX. I have my roms on a DVD. I have run the XEX from HDD and USB and have edited the options.ini file. I can not get a list of my roms to come up.
Is it possible to read the roms off of a DVD in MAME360.
DVD Example Structure:
DVD:\Rom 1\Games
DVD:\Rom 2\Games
Etc.
Line from options.ini:
rompath = dvd:\
What am I missing? Thanks for your help.
I had this problem at first Roms won't load from dvd:\ they have to have one folder at least so place in say Roms like I have and point your ini to dvd:\Roms they will show also for the other paths just change usb to game and then remove emu\mame\ for all but I think this only works for the non live version.
Also for Roms that are compatible with this build of Mame coinops dvd for xbox 1 has over 1200 roms that are compatible you will need romcenter and the mame 0.112.dat that can be found on romcenters arcive page.
Post by: hfmls on February 05, 2010, 03:21:00 AM
this emu is the best.
Post by: jasmk1 on February 07, 2010, 09:33:00 PM
QUOTE(joshwaan2k @ Jan 31 2010, 05:59 PM)
Not sure what's happening there mate.
THis is how I got my games to run.
I installed the emu to the xbox's HDD content folder.
I just then put my roms into USB:/emus/mame/roms and it works fine for me.
Biggest problem I'm having is getting the snaps I take to work with the roms.
I placed the snaps I take are in USB:/emus/mame/snaps and still will not show any suggestions guys?
Thanks
Josh
Post by: gsmiley on February 14, 2010, 02:59:00 AM
Post by: T3XA5360R3B3L on February 14, 2010, 09:29:00 PM
QUOTE(gsmiley @ Feb 14 2010, 03:59 AM)
Yeah its so frustrating not to have an updated version of Mame, but at least there is one
I concur.. I can't even play Pacman, Asteroids, Gadius, and many more. The ROMS will attempt to load up and then it dumps back to the MAME 360 main screen.
The same ROMS play just fine on my PC with the latest MAME32.
This MAME 360 needs some serious updating.. It's dated 3/2007.
Post by: nevernow on February 17, 2010, 08:53:00 AM
QUOTE(T3XA5360R3B3L @ Feb 15 2010, 05:29 AM)
I concur.. I can't even play Pacman, Asteroids, Gadius, and many more. The ROMS will attempt to load up and then it dumps back to the MAME 360 main screen.
The same ROMS play just fine on my PC with the latest MAME32.
This MAME 360 needs some serious updating.. It's dated 3/2007.
I haven't taken a close look at MAME360 yet, but considering that it is based on mainline MAME 0.112, you can expect it to share its compatibility list with that version (at best), and do not forget that sometimes the MAME team changes its idea of a valid ROM set for a certain game, so a ROM set that works in current MAME32 wouldn't work in MAME360, but a different, older set of the same game might (should?) work.
Post by: nevernow on February 17, 2010, 10:44:00 AM
MAME32 v0.112 from an obscure-but-working Chinese Gaming site.
Post by: mogwaimon on February 17, 2010, 11:14:00 AM
I'd check myself, but don't have a JTAG Xbox until tomorrow.
Post by: problem_child on February 17, 2010, 01:14:00 PM
Post by: T3XA5360R3B3L on February 18, 2010, 08:33:00 AM
QUOTE(taunt00 @ Feb 16 2010, 11:18 PM)
Are you running off a USB HD or thumb drive? The 360 doesn't like a lot of thumb drives. Pacman, Asteroids, Gadius should play fine. Do you have all the roms? I can play NBA Jams with no problems. So all 3 of those games should work. Does anyone know the magic question of are they working on a new port? Would be nice to play some of the chd games.
running off a WD 1TB drive. All the other ROMS play fine except the few that I mentioned. They load up, I see a blip of the screen where you see ROM loading and then it dumps back to the MAME360 mainscreen.
I'm not sure how I would know if I have all the ROM sets for them to work with MAME360. I was just assuming that if they load up in the latest PC version of MAME32 that they should work under MAME360.
Pacman, Asteroids, Gadius, are all dated from the early 90's. Perhaps if you got these titles working, you can archive them and put them on a popular download site and PM a link...
Post by: calium on March 07, 2010, 05:36:00 AM
Post by: schoenof on March 10, 2010, 10:02:00 AM
QUOTE(calium @ Mar 7 2010, 07:36 AM)
is it possible to edit the options.ini for 2 or 3 roms folders or snap folder? got the 4096 files only problem on Fat32
I am having the same problem...I found a 112 DAT file and rebuilt my 136 set using 112 and came up with over 6000 complete rom zip files. When FTPing to box I hit the 4096 file limit
I am trying now to rebuild again as merged sets instead of split sets which will get the # of zip files under 4096...
I hope MAME360 works with merged sets
Post by: schoenof on March 10, 2010, 12:07:00 PM
QUOTE(schoenof @ Mar 10 2010, 12:02 PM)
It appears the MAME360 does not work with merged sets...I only see the parent sets now after merging...
Post by: moreniu on March 13, 2010, 11:14:00 PM
This emulator SUX right now.
I came all happy with a bazillion roms that I had 100% working on my xbox 1, toke me like half hour to config the stupid badly ported emulator to load those from my hdd, and you know what? It doesn't play a single of the games I wanted, not even sfa3 lol!!
Well, guess I will wait for someone to update it.
I AM SO FRUSTRATED RIGHT NOW, SORRY.
T_T