Post by: Xbox-Scene on November 08, 2009, 05:45:00 PM
Free60 JTAG/SMC XeLL Hack for Jasper-16mb Motherboards Posted by XanTium | November 8 19:45 EST | News Category: Xbox360 |
| After the release of the hack for Xenon, Falcon/Opus and Zephyr motherboards, today we get the Free60 JTAG/SMC XeLL Hack for Jasper (v4) motherboards with 16mb NAND chips (so NOT compatible with 256 & 512mb NAND yet)! This NAND image will boot your Jasper Xbox360 right into XeLL, which allows you to launch linux distros or run libxenon homebrew software, as long as you never upgraded it via the normal MS upgrade procedures to kernel 849x or higher. From the readme/nfo: Quote
Download: n/a (contains MS code) News-Source: xbins.org |
Post by: niai on November 08, 2009, 05:57:00 PM
why dose this not work with the bigger nands and how long till thy are out i wonder
This post has been edited by niai: Nov 9 2009, 02:01 AM
Post by: Muzzakus on November 08, 2009, 06:07:00 PM
Now we need the killer APP...XBMC !
Post by: mx3 on November 08, 2009, 06:15:00 PM
Post by: syntaxerror329 on November 08, 2009, 06:17:00 PM
Post by: XanTium on November 08, 2009, 06:21:00 PM
QUOTE(syntaxerror329 @ Nov 9 2009, 02:17 AM) 
So does this work even with the most recent update? Or like the other hacks was the door closed after the August update?
same, if you upgraded via the normal upgrade procedure to 849x or higher, you can not peform the JTAG hack.
Post by: gingofthesouth on November 08, 2009, 07:26:00 PM
QUOTE(XanTium @ Nov 9 2009, 02:21 PM) 
same, if you upgraded via the normal upgrade procedure to 849x or higher, you can not peform the JTAG hack.
Any known way to roll back the firmware updates?
Post by: XanTium on November 08, 2009, 07:42:00 PM
QUOTE(gingofthesouth @ Nov 9 2009, 03:26 AM)
Any known way to roll back the firmware updates?
no, not at this moment, a CB-fuse has been burned.
Post by: ddxcb on November 08, 2009, 07:42:00 PM
QUOTE(gingofthesouth @ Nov 8 2009, 07:26 PM)
Any known way to roll back the firmware updates?
You cant bc 8*** blacklist the 4*** kernal so jtag hack for you.
Post by: K1LLERHORNET on November 08, 2009, 07:47:00 PM
I think i heard that somewhere.
So i could essentially have 2 consoles in one... so one dashboard for offline + back-ups & the latest dashboard for Live + originals.
Anyone know if this is possible?
Post by: sephiroth99 on November 08, 2009, 07:57:00 PM
QUOTE(K1LLERHORNET @ Nov 9 2009, 03:47 AM)
If i was to get a console with the required kernal/update, would i be able to dual boot dashboard?
I think i heard that somewhere.
So i could essentially have 2 consoles in one... so one dashboard for offline + back-ups & the latest dashboard for Live + originals.
Anyone know if this is possible?
I think you are looking for this : http://www.xbox-scen...pZELlGflwlM.php
dunno if you can still connect to live with a rebooted console, probably not though
Post by: melkia on November 08, 2009, 08:28:00 PM
Post by: Ninjaman on November 08, 2009, 08:51:00 PM
QUOTE(Muzzakus @ Nov 8 2009, 09:07 PM)
Brilliant.
Now we need the killer APP...XBMC !
Will this or anything major happen any time soon?....only reason why I'm asking is whether or not to update my 1st gen xbox360. Any links as to what is possible with the hack at the moment...like emulators, homebrew etc....some video or pics would great too.
Post by: fahrenheit on November 08, 2009, 09:15:00 PM
QUOTE(melkia @ Nov 9 2009, 04:28 PM)
Would any of you fine gentlemen know what is the size of the nand on a re5 jasper? Or How would you find out?I have been waiting for the jasper to get hacked.
All non-arcade units are 16mb. The RE5 is an 'Elite' special edition, so its 16mb.
Post by: kiwimods on November 08, 2009, 09:16:00 PM
Oh i see this was just answered thanks
PS this is great news, so happy been waiting for this for a while now. thanks to everyone involved.
This post has been edited by kiwimods: Nov 9 2009, 05:33 AM
Post by: jester on November 08, 2009, 10:01:00 PM
Good to know this has gone from successful test to release.
Post by: Bannedmuhfugger on November 08, 2009, 10:01:00 PM
So jtag hack...linux...how powerful can a system be with 512 mb ram? What is possible.. I guess the Xbox did some impressive things with its whopping 64mb of ram and 733 mhz processor.
Sorry if I sound noobish.. I understand that this opens the door for great things but what is available now thats worth having?
Post by: XanTium on November 08, 2009, 10:01:00 PM
Has anyone seen a 256/512mb Jasper without internal MU showing up in the dash?
Post by: Poopchute on November 09, 2009, 12:07:00 AM
Post by: [_BRIAN_] on November 09, 2009, 01:23:00 AM
Linux
Snes
Genesis
Video Player Alpha
There might be more but those are what I have seen. The thing about this hack is once you update you are screwed, so you need to decide whether you want homebrew and are willing to wait or just not have homebrew.
Note - I am pretty sure those links are ok but if they aren't just let me know and I will take them down.
Post by: tomgreen99200 on November 09, 2009, 02:04:00 AM
Post by: j3ll3 on November 09, 2009, 03:53:00 AM
but by the time homebrew will have time to become big.. there'll be little to no exploitable 360's left, coz people are playing 4th wave games... and any 360 made in July 2009 has the 2nd bootloader on it
Ofcourse it's fun and great for the guys who lost their dvdkey to retrieve it
or the sunday afternoon linux programming club
but for the end user it won't be interesting for a long time
I have heard about unsigned XEX being able to run on homebrew 360's , and being able to play 360 games from USB HDD... then again this is not yet public, or might never become public.
Post by: iD4rK on November 09, 2009, 04:01:00 AM
I love you guys
Post by: Grim187 on November 09, 2009, 04:59:00 AM
QUOTE(XanTium @ Nov 8 2009, 09:01 PM)
Has anyone seen a 256/512mb Jasper without internal MU showing up in the dash?
ive seen 5 that where 256, i have another 5 that i haven't checked (are probably 512), any way to swap the nand down to a 16mb?
Post by: NoseBreaker on November 09, 2009, 07:08:00 AM
Post by: HotKnife420 on November 09, 2009, 07:20:00 AM
QUOTE(j3ll3 @ Nov 9 2009, 11:53 AM)
great..
but by the time homebrew will have time to become big.. there'll be little to no exploitable 360's left, coz people are playing 4th wave games... and any 360 made in July 2009 has the 2nd bootloader on it
Ofcourse it's fun and great for the guys who lost their dvdkey to retrieve it
or the sunday afternoon linux programming club
but for the end user it won't be interesting for a long time
I have heard about unsigned XEX being able to run on homebrew 360's , and being able to play 360 games from USB HDD... then again this is not yet public, or might never become public.
True, right now there's really not much of anything. I've installed Ubuntu 7.10 and it works, but it's a bit sluggish and has no sound (though I could try xlokix' driver) or gfx driver. SNES emulation works except for the screen tearing, lack of saving and lack of menu. Genesis emulation suffers from poor sound, and even poorer controls (not to mention lack of support for scd/32x and roms must be in either zip or bin format). SMSPlus loads many roms with horrible colors, etc, so I haven't really played it to see what's up with it.
That being said, the real way to get more out of the 360 homebrew scene is to get involved in it and find some way to contribute, or organize a team that can do things.
QUOTE(NoseBreaker @ Nov 9 2009, 03:08 PM)
Weird no one posted any info that Wave 4 would kill it.. Not that I'd choose to *maybe* some day have XBMC over new games, but then I wouldnt play a non-stealth leaked COD MW2 that guarantees a ban..
What rock were you under? It was front page news and every 'jtag hack' related news post has also included the info about 8xxx dash / wave 4 games.... What were you expecting a personal letter in the mail instructing you NOT to apply the update?
Post by: TerminatR on November 09, 2009, 08:16:00 AM
QUOTE(Bannedmuhfugger @ Nov 9 2009, 06:01 AM)
Sounds cool but is this kinda thing still in the very first stages? Are there any worthwhile homebrew apps yet? I hope having a 4th way to play SNES, Genesis, N64 roms isnt the point of this...
So jtag hack...linux...how powerful can a system be with 512 mb ram? What is possible.. I guess the Xbox did some impressive things with its whopping 64mb of ram and 733 mhz processor.
Sorry if I sound noobish.. I understand that this opens the door for great things but what is available now thats worth having?
XBMC is a massive project that has consumed tens of thousands of hours that could be enjoyed by anyone with a modded Xbox.
I'm guessing that even with all 4 hardware variants being supported, the number of Xbox 360's that are able to run homebrew is incredibly low.
I just don't see the time commitment being put into such a small audience. Porting emulators on the other hand is a quick win.
when homebrew becomes mainstream, thats when we are goingto start seeing better apps, including (hopefully) XBMC.
Post by: mist4fun on November 09, 2009, 09:37:00 AM
QUOTE(NoseBreaker @ Nov 9 2009, 07:58 AM)
I'm just angry at myself, but with a quick search all I found was that Cars-O-Rama was the first wave 4 with 8498 NXE update, no mention of JTAG.
While WPA2 Live update said "Note: As always, update at own risk and don't do it if u still wanna run the JTAG Hack."
It was on the day of the live fall update.
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=690029
Post by: NoseBreaker on November 09, 2009, 09:42:00 AM
QUOTE(mist4fun @ Nov 9 2009, 06:37 PM)
Yes I'm aware of that
Post by: ddxcb on November 09, 2009, 10:03:00 AM
Post by: Pedroshin on November 09, 2009, 10:09:00 AM
QUOTE(NoseBreaker @ Nov 9 2009, 02:58 PM)
I'm just angry at myself, but with a quick search all I found was that Cars-O-Rama was the first wave 4 with 8498 NXE update, no mention of JTAG.
While WPA2 Live update said "Note: As always, update at own risk and don't do it if u still wanna run the JTAG Hack."
Try this "Removing System Updates".
Post by: Hoescout on November 09, 2009, 12:59:00 PM
Post by: modslave on November 09, 2009, 01:00:00 PM
Just a pity that the bann thread is nearly 50 pages and this thread you can count on one hand
I bet everyone wish thay had a moddable console now instead of a banned one (I now have both
) - Dam you MS
Post by: phiberoptix on November 09, 2009, 01:17:00 PM
Good things comes to those who wait, i hope. Now my jasper is finally exploitable
Post by: Artlover on November 09, 2009, 01:36:00 PM
QUOTE(Pedroshin @ Nov 9 2009, 12:09 PM)
Try this "Removing System Updates".
This has been floating around for nearly a year (atleast as far back as Jan'09 on teamxbox, which is the earliest reference to this I could find).
Anywho, the problem with this is that it's not going to do what people think it will.
#1: Many system updates trigger eFuses to prevent downgrading. How does this get around that? I know eFuses can be reset, but I doubt MS was dumb enough to embed the necessary JTAG code into the console to allow for that. If they were, it's a shame no one has discovered it yet, because that would solve a whole lot of problems for people.
#2: It could only possibly remove minor updates not major ones, and not on all consoles.
2a: If we assume system updates are simply add-ons to a base core, then it would seem only older xboxen with the smaller NAND's that required HDD/MemCard to store the rest of the system could do this and only back as far as the existing base core that is currently installed on the NAND. Newer systems like the Jaspers with the larger NAND's that store the whole system there I don't see as being able to do this at all.
2b: If we assume system updates are complete (as in actually patching the base core code itself), then the ability to remove said updates would mean that the system is creating backups of previous system versions. Again, this limits it to consoles with HDD's/MemCards since the NAND doesn't have the storage to hold any such backups and would still be subject to the eFuse limitations created by #1.
In other words, this is not going to revert your console back to pre August 09 if you already updated. Seriously, since this is old news, one would think the freeBoot and JTAG Hack guys (and all the other hackers) would have mentioned this as an option for people who already installed the August 09 update if this worked and did anything useful.
Post by: Sarek on November 09, 2009, 05:00:00 PM
QUOTE(phiberoptix @ Nov 9 2009, 09:17 PM)
I am one of those (few?) that stopped connecting to live after reading the news here about the jtag exploit.
Good things comes to those who wait, i hope. Now my jasper is finally exploitable
I wanted to hold out, but I was in the middle of a couple of games I wanted to play, and couldn't wait. Fortunately, I found one brand new Jasper Arcade unit at a Meijer store with a Feb 2009 manufacture date (I assume it's still safe) and bought another on Ebay for $95 which includes 2 Wireless controllers and a game, and had never been on Live.
I second the earlier comment about the shame of their being more attention on the bans than this. I've not modded my units at all yet, and don't plan to in order to pirate games.
Post by: blipidy on November 09, 2009, 09:55:00 PM
i booted the console i got today up and saw that it was still on the 7371 dashboard, so now im torn on what to do. it is a jasper arcade unit. i dont believe that the console has ever been connected to live either. my original intention was to use it on live, but seeing as it has the pre summer 09 dash, im thinking its going to sit on a shelf while i follow up on what is happening with xell and jtag. i think im going to have to go and look for another console now to use as a backup lol
Post by: Rad0x on November 10, 2009, 05:00:00 AM
QUOTE(Hoescout @ Nov 9 2009, 09:59 PM)
GOOD news is that the new MW2 xbox 250 gb bundle has Kernel 2.0.7363.0 on it so its good to go for jtag.
But does it also have the old 1BL?
Post by: infidelity on November 10, 2009, 07:40:00 AM
I bought a brand new arcade 360 from walmart, (no HDD, just a controler, and some game I can't remember off the top of my head) 2 days after the first reports of the jtag hack to enable homebrew back in August.
First off, I know for a fact that my 360 is a Jasper. I know this from doing the power voltage check near the barcode on the back of the 360. My numbers matched what was described as to having a Jasper.
Now, as for telling if I have 16mb, 256mb, or 512mb, I have no clue.
And here's another confusing part. I read online that the Jasper has an internal MU (memory unit). I read that you have to goto Settings, and Memory, and it should show up. So, with no HDD, and no external memory card inserted, I went into Settings, and Memory, and nothing was there. There was no icon of the 360 machine, with any description or anyhting. The screen was just blank......
So, do I have a 16mb, 256mb, or 512mb??
Thanks for the help.
-infidelity
p.s. my dashboard is 2.0.7357
Post by: Poopchute on February 03, 2020, 10:43:00 AM
Post by: HotKnife420 on November 10, 2009, 11:46:00 AM
QUOTE(modslave @ Nov 9 2009, 09:00 PM)
I am WELL happy to see this release and excited that hopefully the 256 and 512 might get released someday too (as mine is 256).
Just a pity that the bann thread is nearly 50 pages and this thread you can count on one hand
I bet everyone wish thay had a moddable console now instead of a banned one (I now have both
) - Dam you MSThey're up on xbins, now.
QUOTE(infidelity @ Nov 10 2009, 03:40 PM)
I'm starting to get really confused on what type of Jasper I have.
I bought a brand new arcade 360 from walmart, (no HDD, just a controler, and some game I can't remember off the top of my head) 2 days after the first reports of the jtag hack to enable homebrew back in August.
First off, I know for a fact that my 360 is a Jasper. I know this from doing the power voltage check near the barcode on the back of the 360. My numbers matched what was described as to having a Jasper.
Now, as for telling if I have 16mb, 256mb, or 512mb, I have no clue.
And here's another confusing part. I read online that the Jasper has an internal MU (memory unit). I read that you have to goto Settings, and Memory, and it should show up. So, with no HDD, and no external memory card inserted, I went into Settings, and Memory, and nothing was there. There was no icon of the 360 machine, with any description or anyhting. The screen was just blank......
So, do I have a 16mb, 256mb, or 512mb??
Thanks for the help.
-infidelity
p.s. my dashboard is 2.0.7357
You have a 16MB Jasper.
QUOTE(Poopchute @ Nov 10 2009, 06:43 PM)
Someone correct me if Im wrong but...cant a person do this JTAG hack while they have a 7371 or lower kernel...Then Upgrade to a 8xxx kernel and then be able to play wave 4 games? Its just if you upgrade before the hack then youre screwed...
WRONG! Updating to the 8x dash will also change the bootloader code to one that doesn't have a vulnerability (at least, that we know of).
Post by: infidelity on November 10, 2009, 05:23:00 PM
Post by: Poopchute on November 10, 2009, 10:51:00 PM
Post by: HotKnife420 on November 11, 2009, 07:36:00 AM
QUOTE(infidelity @ Nov 11 2009, 01:23 AM)
where are the installation diagrams for the jasper jtag? can't find them anywhere online
JTAG wiring for reading/writing nand is the same on all board revisions.
Wiring for Xell to run is the same on all non-xenon consoles (same wiring as a falcon or zephyr)
Post by: lenselijertje on November 11, 2009, 08:47:00 AM
i'm building a jtag flasher with usb, because reading a 512mb nand file using lpt port would take too long.
I read with usb it takes only about 1 hour
Post by: MasterGouken on November 11, 2009, 11:15:00 AM
Post by: lenselijertje on November 14, 2009, 12:31:00 PM
Too bad only linux works, will have to wait for hdmi and homebrew support for jasper console
Post by: cocker80 on November 14, 2009, 04:38:00 PM
QUOTE(lenselijertje @ Nov 14 2009, 07:31 PM)
just flashed my 512MB jasper
Too bad only linux works, will have to wait for hdmi and homebrew support for jasper console
Tried to flash my 256mb jasper and all i get is a black screen, did you use the same wiring diagram as the falcon?
Post by: modslave on November 17, 2009, 06:11:00 PM
QUOTE(HotKnife420 @ Nov 11 2009, 03:36 PM)
JTAG wiring for reading/writing nand is the same on all board revisions.
Wiring for Xell to run is the same on all non-xenon consoles (same wiring as a falcon or zephyr)
Thanks HotKnife420, straight to the point short n simple.
Now all im waiting for is the Cygnos v2 512mb Jasper support and im sold
Post by: Hakko on November 20, 2009, 11:18:00 PM
QUOTE(j3ll3 @ Nov 9 2009, 10:53 AM)
I have heard about unsigned XEX being able to run on homebrew 360's , and being able to play 360 games from USB HDD... then again this is not yet public, or might never become public.
Off topic, I can understand how much time and money goes into the work that's done to get this point, but what is the reason for not going public?
Is it due to M$ being able implement a fix, and effectively shutting this vulnerability down? Or is it an issue with more time and research?
I really respect these intelligent people and thank them for their coding, technical skills and info released so far. But I personally don't fully understand why it's kept private at the moment.
I guess that they have their reasons and I don't deserve an explanation, but I'm just curious as to why.
Post by: matt186 on December 06, 2009, 11:54:00 AM
QUOTE(HotKnife420 @ Nov 10 2009, 08:46 PM)
They're up on xbins, now.
You have a 16MB Jasper.
WRONG! Updating to the 8x dash will also change the bootloader code to one that doesn't have a vulnerability (at least, that we know of).
How would i tell the size of my NAND mate?