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Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: sofa king dumb on November 06, 2009, 09:13:00 PM

ok since theres 200+ pages of ppl whom got banned itd probably be easier to look at those who haven't got banned.
please take all discussion else where and only post the following only if your box has NOT YET BEEN BANNED

Manufacturer's date of the box:
DVD Drive:
firmware spoofed?:
Pirate anything?:(simple yes or no, no details!)
Newest game:
Amount of burned games played since the first modded: (rough guess, 5?10?50?over 9000?)
Comments about your history:
Belief on banning:

example:
Manufacturer's date of the box: 2007
DVD Drive: Benq
firmware spoofed?: NO
Pirate anything?: Arrrrrrghhhh
Newest game: Bionic Cammando
Amount of burned games played since the first modded: 5-10
Comments about your history: I once had launch xbox which was banned during the halo 3 beta first wave, no DMI/PFI on my crackdown. I now have a new box but same HDD and gamertag.
also i have never had a burnt disc even in the tray with the ethernet cable pluged in and always run an retail copy to clear the catch before reconnecting with my current box. oh and i havent touched the box since june, just connected yesterday to update it and see if i was banned (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Belief on banning: i think some lie and say they dont play backups when connected to live, but really they just dont play multiplayer and are connected. also maybe M$ just comes here and looks at the poster's gamertags yanno since most of you have your gamertags in your profiles O.o also i need to learn to photoshop but (IMG:http://i37.tinypic.com/4lp01j.jpg)

NOTE: i didnt ask for things like fw version because they really don't make a difference along with the game playing at time of ban and such

This post has been edited by sofa king dumb: Nov 7 2009, 05:15 AM

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: cucuto89 on November 06, 2009, 10:05:00 PM

I'm not.... not modded hehe. Literally, had my 360 open, had just bought the proper sata cable, have a dvd burner on the way, just about to do the firmware flash, and i stumble in here... I'm scared to even connect to live, i feel like they know my intentions.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: tonybologna on November 06, 2009, 11:07:00 PM

STILL SAFE HERE! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) BTW, as of right now, to be safe I'm not posting any more details. I will say that I have disconnected from Live to be safe now until something is figured out. Thanks!

This post has been edited by tonybologna: Nov 7 2009, 07:09 AM

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: Chronic Mitosis on November 06, 2009, 11:15:00 PM

Not banned as of yet. Always had a silver account and network cable plugged in. Logged in past few days, multiple times a day expecting a ban. Still expecting one.

-Manufacturing date: 2008
-Liteon drive flashed with 1.6, upgraded as soon as it was released(drive has been modded since 1.51)
-All backups checked through abgx, tested in xbox and patched if needed, immediately after burning
-I always rip and play games from my hdd only, every game
-Library of around 30 games
-Last game patched was borderlands(few days ago) last game played was Oblivion(3 weeks ago)
-Last dlc bought was 2 weeks ago and I haven't played the game yet
-Every backup burned on verbatim 2.4x at 8x with a pioneer 112d with most up to date version of xbc, never verified afterward.
-Never played an early release
-Always updated dash when asked too, immediately
-Was in previous live preview program

I got in the new preview program, but they said my console id was wrong, that it didn't match the serial or something....so I never got the preview update. I just tried correcting it and was told to check back in 3-4 days, for the update.

I don't know any other details to give, or how many of the above are useful bits...but there it is.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: PRlME on November 07, 2009, 12:10:00 AM

Not banned yet.

-Manufacturing date: April 2009
-Liteon drive flashed with 1.6
-All backups checked through abgx and patched if needed, tested in xbox immediately after burning
-Library of around 30 games
-Last game patched was borderlands(few days ago) last game played was CoD4:MW1 (tonight)
-Every backup burned on Memorex at 8x
-Never played an early release
-Always updated dash when asked too, immediately

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: Zod5000 on November 07, 2009, 01:46:00 AM

Not Banned:

Drive: BenQ
Do I use backups? Yes
Do I leave backups in the tray when connected to live: no
Do I play originals on live? Only Halo 3 and even thats been a while.
Did I use the xbox's power while flashing the drive: yes
Did I use jungleflasher or dosflash? Dosflash
Firmware Version: 1.6.1 (upgraded from 1.6 about 3 days ago).
Have I been banned before (yes about 2.5 years ago on my original console, samsung dvd drive)
Do I go on live without backups in the try? (every so often to buy an arcade game or DLC).
Blanks: Verbatim 2.4x and Verbatim 8x discs (all burned at 4x)
Verifed through ABGX - yup
early release played? not anything in the last year.
xbox model: falcon, purchased around dec '07 - arcade model, with a 120gb hard drive.

Serisouly wondering if my actual lack of using live for playing games (as I prefer single player games) has prevented me from getting banned.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: TemperTantrum on November 07, 2009, 09:55:00 AM

Not banned here either yet on my main machine...

Drive info: Liteon with 1.6 FW

Console: Elite 2008

Played Games Early & Online: Tons of them

Use ABGX: Never

Played Originals: Yep, plenty.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: tonybologna on November 07, 2009, 02:43:00 PM

QUOTE

Serisouly wondering if my actual lack of using live for playing games (as I prefer single player games) has prevented me from getting banned.

Exactly my case as well. I don't play online against other people even though I have a gold account. I only use Live for game patches & sports game content like rosters & sliders. NEVER played a single game online. My gold account ends in January so I don't really need it & didn't really need it in the first place. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

This post has been edited by tonybologna: Nov 7 2009, 10:44 PM

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: SNAAAKE on November 07, 2009, 03:52:00 PM

not banned..random liteon drive forgot when I got it..old as hell..newest update

havent played anything new..in fact I dont even what came out recently..I am am still trying to finish up ps1/ps2 games

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: Chronic Mitosis on November 07, 2009, 03:56:00 PM

It was bound to happen, I am now banned. Sucks, I don't play online....just use silver for game dlc.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: specialmoose on November 07, 2009, 04:27:00 PM

So, what are people doing with their banned consoles? I'm not banned yet but I haven't gone home yet to check

So scared... so very scared...

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: tonybologna on November 07, 2009, 04:45:00 PM

QUOTE

I don't play online....just use silver for game dlc.

Same here bro. I never play games online against others. I do have a gold account that ends in January but I've only used it to download demos. I only really need silver because I only really need it for sports game patches,rosters,& sliders.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: nozafuji1 on November 07, 2009, 05:47:00 PM

Not banned yet (crosses fingers), but the way people are falling left and right, it's only a matter of time before I will be.

-I have a Lite-On DG-16D2S, modded over this past summer.
-Used the CK3 Pro
-Didn't use the 360 for power during flashing
-On iXtreme 1.6
-Never played a game before release
-Verify everything through ABGX on level 3 fix
- Haven't played any wave 4 games, nor have I used the one-shot disk
-Use Verbatim DL media
-Haven't played an original since modding

This post has been edited by nozafuji1: Nov 8 2009, 01:49 AM

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: majinsoftware on November 07, 2009, 05:59:00 PM

Well iv got 3 xboxs still un banned only 2 are modded tho.

Manufacturer's date of the box:8/06, 3/2008
DVD Drive:BenQ, Liteon
firmware spoofed?:Nope
Pirate anything?:No
Newest game: Teken 6
Amount of burned games played since the first modded: 100+
Comments about your history: First one was refurbed. Both have had firmwares 1.5,1.51,1.6 on them
Belief on banning: PFI timing is slower on poor media and is a easy detection.

Always checked with ABGX
Always used Verbatim disks
Modded with CK3 and jungle flasher.
Played lots of orignals since modding
Played backups online
Played lots of early releases
Consoles were in last preview (not current one)
No repair page error on two consoles.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: Nemesis2007 on November 07, 2009, 06:47:00 PM

Banned: No
XBox: Opus
DVD Drive version: Ben Q (iXtreme 1.61)
Age of console: opus motherboard no hdmi
HDD size: 20GB
HDD official or fake: Official
Country: USA
Used Activate.iso?: No
Played Wave 4: No
Wave of the last game played: 4
Played an early release: No
Received Achievement on Early Release: No
Last played games: GTA:TBOGT, Tekken 6, Borderlands
Allways verfied Games: Yes

Don't know how they are doing it got at least 5 people i know all played it safe like me all banned but somehow i'm still here but i'm sure i'm next

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: xbones on November 07, 2009, 10:45:00 PM

Wow 210 pages on the banned console thread.. Not even 4 pages on the Non banned thread..

Looks like there is no escaping the ban hammer this time.... MUAHAHAAHAAAAAAAA

We should have a thread about those who posted in the unbanned section, then got banned 2 days later.

This post has been edited by xbones: Nov 8 2009, 06:47 AM

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: louie80 on November 07, 2009, 10:47:00 PM

not banned
Lite-on ixtreme v1.6
hacked 250gb hdd
been going online playin cod4 and some arcade games

played mw2 early but offline on another hdd

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: ultron on November 07, 2009, 11:22:00 PM

QUOTE(xbones @ Nov 8 2009, 01:45 AM)

Mostly because they're only checking the forums after getting banned (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: admiraljdn on November 08, 2009, 02:07:00 AM

Manufacturer's date of the box:
DVD Drive: BenQ
firmware spoofed?: 1.61
Pirate anything?:(simple yes or no, no details!) YES
Newest game: Dragon Age, Borderlands
Amount of burned games played since the first modded: 100
Comments about your history: Never verified with ABGX. Burned Verbatim 4x.
Belief on banning: ABGX verification and patching. Also I'm about to have to renew for another year of xbox live... could be a business decision to ban only people who have more than 6 months left on a current year of xbox live. Maybe I'll get banned right after I pay for another year in december oooh.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: ToBbErT on November 08, 2009, 02:35:00 AM

Banned? no
Manufacturer's date of the box: march 2009
DVD Drive: lite-on 7 serie (1.6)
Newest game: Gta 4 new episodes
Activate.iso used?: yes
Games played since modded: 4 (3 verified with abgx360) 1 retail
You like cookies? yes

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: SycoraX on November 08, 2009, 10:24:00 AM

My console hasn't been banned yet either. I've survived the last year's ban wave as well. Hope it continues this way. However, my buddies 2 consoles got banned yesterday. Yesterday was also the first time I got on LIVE with my new gamertag since my last one was banned for playing Forza 3 early.

Xbox 360 Elite
Manuf. Date: March 2007
Hitachi GDR-3120L flashed with iXtreme 1.51
Latest Game: Fallout 3 GOTY

Always played pre-released games on my old account while connected to XBL up until Forza 3. Never used ABGX. Played probably about 10 on XBL itself. Don't remember last time my xbox had a retail game in it.

This post has been edited by SycoraX: Nov 8 2009, 06:26 PM

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: 360beast on November 08, 2009, 10:26:00 AM

i got a buddy not banned, said his box has been flashed about a year... not sure of drive or anytihng, but he said he isnt updated to 1.61 yet. and he plays online....

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: WhiteWidows on November 08, 2009, 10:49:00 AM

Not Banned
1.6 BenQ
Live test "Z: 8015 - 1002"
Never played early
ABGX verified
Verbatim DVD's
Never played an Original game in it ever
Halo ODST newest played game

Side note:
I Dont have a Gold account. Did but let it run out months ago.

I haven't put this 360 on live in months until yesterday.

Yesterday tested the "Live Connection Test" after updating (1st time) - Signed in via GT with no problem.

Today I did the "Live Test" and its asking for another update. I denied it got the status report...still at "Z: 8015 - 1002" I assume still unbanned. Not doing anything more until more info is released from c4eva

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: xboxbman on November 08, 2009, 10:55:00 AM

Manufacturer's date of the box:2008
DVD Drive: Liteon with ixtreme 1.6
firmware spoofed?:no
Pirate anything?:plenty
Newest game:borderlands
Amount of burned games played since the first modded: 50
Comments about your history: I only play backups, never never originals, even on live. Got this as a replacement for RROD elite, modded it on first boot,powered by the xbox during mod. A bunch of games installed on the hdd, from backups. I play on live all the time. I never play games early, as I got banned last time because of fallout and GoW2. I have never used abgx
Belief on banning: Either the data that the firmware simulates is being reported back too fast, or some gypsy curse

This post has been edited by xboxbman: Nov 8 2009, 06:56 PM

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: zikkzokk on November 08, 2009, 11:17:00 AM

QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Nov 7 2009, 07:59 PM)

Belief on banning: PFI timing is slower on poor media and is a easy detection.

I wouldn't think this be the case as I'm still not banned yet I've used Memorex (ie the worst media you can buy that I know of) for every one of my backups.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: theyearsofdecay on November 08, 2009, 01:37:00 PM

Not Banned...yet.
Manufacturer's date of the box: Launch 2005 core
DVD Drive: Benq, replaced dying hitachi lg drive
Flashed: 3 weeks ago
firmware spoofed?: Yes
Pirate anything?: Downloaded about 5 games, all verified on abgx.
Newest game: Ghostbusters
Amount of burned games played since the first modded: 5
Country: Northern Ireland

Core Launch version console bought new first week of 360 Launch. Replaced dying hitachi drive 3 weeks ago with new Benq, spoofed and flashed with latest Ixtreme using JF. Used 360 powersupply during flash and console was connected several times with no sata connected to 360. Played forza, odst, flashpoint, ghostbusters, nfss..all downloaded and verified using abgx.

My own suspision is the last 360 update contained something to detect non original games. I dont think they can detect the firmware persionally, i reckon they are performing checks on the discs and flaging the info, 3 strikes and you are out kind of thing. Who knows.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: Blargharg on November 08, 2009, 05:47:00 PM

I don't know if anyone noticed, but you now have a "report console tampering" option under "file complaint" on Live friend (or enemy) list. I didn't notice this before. I think at least a certain percentage of bans in this wave has something to do with that option. So, since I'm in an ultra paranoid mode right now, let me just say this:

Banned: no
DVD Drive version: Lite-On (iXtreme 1.6)
Used Activate.iso?: No
Played Wave 4: No
Wave of the last game played: 3
Played an early release: No
Received Achievement on Early Release: No
Always verfied Games: Yes, both pre and post burning.
Bitsetting: always DVD-ROM
Layerbreak: always set to proper value

Basically, I took every possible precaution that was suggested on this forum and elsewhere. It seems to have worked so far.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: not2able on November 08, 2009, 05:59:00 PM

As of yet, fingers still crossed, not banned.

Ben Q
1.6 fm flashed 3 months ago.
Never played a release before retail date in my country.
30+ backups
Always verify with abgx, if any yellow, use autofix level 3. Wait for fully verified rips in the database always.
Burn to verbatim 4x Using correct layerbreak .dvd file on imgburn
Have played wave 4 using activate iso (gta episodes), have played forza 3 (pal)..have not played borderlands.
Have never left a backup in the drive, out immediately as I go back to dashboard.
No games installed to hard drive other then forza disc 2
Did power on with xbox power for flash.

Could still happen to me. Been lucky I guess.

I also believe this is a disc issue, how many of those banned have been using bad media? bad layerbreak? bad burns? do any of the people banned verify with imgburn? How many of these banned people got their 'friends' to back up a game for them?

This post has been edited by not2able: Nov 9 2009, 02:07 AM

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: TemperTantrum on November 08, 2009, 06:05:00 PM

QUOTE(TemperTantrum @ Nov 7 2009, 04:55 PM)

Not banned here either yet on my main machine...
Drive info: Liteon with 1.6 FW

Console: Elite 2008

Played Games Early & Online: Tons of them

Use ABGX: Never

Played Originals: Yep, plenty.

UPDATE:

I've now gone from being a proud member of the non-banned, to a shamed member of the banned.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: SoapyTaco on November 08, 2009, 06:59:00 PM

Manufacturer's date of the box:July 07 Premium
DVD Drive: Benq vad6038
firmware spoofed?: no
Pirate anything?:(simple yes or no, no details!) yes
Newest game: Fable 2 Left 4 Dead Boarderlands
Amount of burned games played since the first modded: around 10?
Comments about your history: Check with the test connection method no ban. Xbox.com says service not available with the 55420 error. After that I readded the original firmware and connected to live with Crackdown in tray. Stayed on dashboard for 15 mins, added Crackdown asked for patch, declined, another 10 mins on dashboard and turned off 360. Will not play 360 offline and online until there's new word from C4ever. For the first 3 or 4 games I fully checked abgx with level 3.After that I kept level 3 but didn't not check the dvd crc thing.
Belief on banning: Firmware detection.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: PRiME2008 on November 08, 2009, 10:04:00 PM

M$ objective is to shut down all the activities of this site and communities like it.

They don't want a single person to even think about opening their xbox unit and fiddling around, this site promotes it so in time everyone everywhere will be banned.

They could keep this banning up for ages and it will mean we must think of having a modchip that disables online use, however that will be impossible now that they ban you even when offline (well as soon as you jump online even without firmware).

Yes it does seem xbox360 modding is destine to be doomed. Least for online play and online features etc... The message is simple, buy legit, make M$ more rich and you more poor, support the monopoly or be banned

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: kiwimods on November 09, 2009, 03:36:00 AM

QUOTE(PRiME2008 @ Nov 9 2009, 06:04 PM)

not very optimistic are you. the glass is still half full.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: bigdarren on November 09, 2009, 03:39:00 AM

It's ironic....We're all trying to scramble around and see how M$ does it to no avail, it's a big secret...But we post all our info right out here for them to see...

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: kiwimods on November 09, 2009, 03:46:00 AM

QUOTE(bigdarren @ Nov 9 2009, 11:39 PM)

It's ironic....We're all trying to scramble around and see how M$ does it to no avail, it's a big secret...But we post all our info right out here for them to see...

actually most of the info that is actually valuable has been witheld and passed onto the proper people.

you do make a good point however.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: majinsoftware on November 09, 2009, 04:08:00 AM

QUOTE(kiwimods @ Nov 9 2009, 12:46 PM)

actually most of the info that is actually valuable has been witheld and passed onto the proper people.

you do make a good point however.

Correct, Theres a hell of a lot more info and ideas going on that arnt being said out in the public.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: Merumeru on November 09, 2009, 09:30:00 AM

XD still running strong, i dont even give a shit if they do ban me, most people i play with online were scrubs anyway, lol

Banned: No
XBox: i dunno lol
DVD Drive version: Lite-On
Age of console: No idea XP
HDD size: 20GB
HDD official or fake: Regular
Country: USA
iXtreme: 1.6
Used Activate.iso?: Yep
Played Wave 4: Yep
Wave of the last game played: 4
Played an early release: XD yah not logged in on any profile though with no HDD connected
Received Achievement on Early Release: Nope
Last played games: Tekken 6, Bakugan, MW2, Dragon Ball Raging Burst
Allways verfied Games: Nah XP if its a game i really wanna play and it aint verified, ill take the risk

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: sofa king dumb on November 09, 2009, 12:12:00 PM

majority of this thread have BENQ

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: Merumeru on November 09, 2009, 03:02:00 PM

QUOTE(PRiME2008 @ Nov 9 2009, 12:04 AM)

XD as if competitive online play is the only thing people play the 360 for, and even if thats the case, im sure the most M$ will get from consumers is another 360 ($200 = 3.5 Legit New Games), one legit and one for backups, which actually, isn't that bad XD cuz i swear to god i must have gone through 5 PS2s back in the day XP

im still surprised they're not console-bricking but i can only imagine thats a step not too far off if the piracy worsens X3

and there will always be communities like this XD and the glass is still half full, and thats if you consider online play half XP

This post has been edited by Merumeru: Nov 9 2009, 11:05 PM

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: nozafuji1 on November 09, 2009, 03:35:00 PM

I am now banned.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: anarki001 on November 09, 2009, 04:18:00 PM

Not banned.

I was using a BenQ spoofed as a Lite-on 7xxx running IX1.51

Upon hearing of this ban wave I flashed the BenQ to original FW still spoofed as a Lite-on.

3 of my friends have been banned running IX1.51 on Lite-ons, all of them said their drives span up like crazy just before being banned.

Prior to me flashing back to original firmware, I:

- Never played a game early
- Never got my games via torrent sites
- Used Infiniti 360 DVD-DL discs burned at 8x using Imgburn
- Always do dashboard updates immediately

- I do have a modded WD Bevs 120GB harddrive.

I did notice this morning when I turned on my xbox that my router was sending and receiving more packets than usual to my xbox, but I have been playing my original copies of games all of today and so far so good.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: seed.helper on November 09, 2009, 04:45:00 PM

QUOTE(anarki001 @ Nov 9 2009, 11:18 PM)

i didnt notice any span up things

but im banned today too...

good while it last

not gonna buy another console

cheers people

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: sofa king dumb on November 09, 2009, 08:35:00 PM

QUOTE(nozafuji1 @ Nov 8 2009, 01:47 AM)

QUOTE(nozafuji1 @ Nov 9 2009, 11:35 PM)

I am now banned.

another lite-on walks the plank. viva la BenQ

EDIT: though i must say i dont think i've been on live long enough for them to even ban me, so that may be my reason. I just log on for less than 5min just to see if im banned, im more interested in it than worried.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: WhiteWidows on November 09, 2009, 09:27:00 PM

QUOTE(WhiteWidows @ Nov 8 2009, 06:49 PM)

Still not banned today.

Did warranty online test and got the ERROR.
Did the network test still @ "Z: 8015 - 1002"
Signed into live NP
Installed game to HD NP
Dont have a Gold account to play online. Not sure if that matters.

1 Thing very weird is that now when I turn off my 360 the fan stays on, and does not shut off. Anyone shed some light on that?

Also the size of this thread scares me. Maybe this will weed out the noobs. Its was better when the 360 modding community was niche crowd.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: admiraljdn on November 09, 2009, 11:37:00 PM

Just thought of this... how many unbanned people were active participants in XBOX live arcade purchases? Do you think maybe they don't ban a console if they deem they will actively continue to purchase online games?

I've spent over $200 in the arcade last year alone... can any other unbanned people confirm that they've been buying more than normal in the arcade recently?

I'm 1.61 benq and still unbanned.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: durty on November 10, 2009, 12:26:00 AM

I want to contribute any info to help everyone out.

DVD Drive: BenQ
firmware spoofed?: 1.6
Pirate anything?:(simple yes or no, no details!) Yes
Newest game: Borderlands
Amount of burned games played since the first modded: 55 games in my library.
Comments about your history: Never have played a game early, never bought anything off M$ marketplace except cod5WoW zombie map pack. Never have checked CRC after game was completed burning in ABGX, always have checked before burn on ABGX never burned without a verification. Never installed a game to the HDD, downloaded newest updates anytime they are released (first googling to figure out what it is) last one updated was the WEP thing or whatever it was. Did the online repair it said "cannot complete this operation" or something like that. Did the network test came back with 1002 at the end of Z, so if thats right im not banned yet. I unplug my network cable on the 3rd of Nov.

Tomorrow i plan on going back to original firmware to play codMW2 with hopes of not being previously flagged.

Also, my roommates xbox was banned (madden 10 had a verification fail on ABGX when i tested all my games - he played it the previous two days)

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: KIla on November 10, 2009, 01:46:00 AM

Banned: No
DVD Drive version: Benq
Age of console: 2,5 years
HDD size: 20GB
HDD official or fake: Official
Country: registered UK ( live in PL )
iXtreme: 1.41
Used Activate.iso?: No
Played Wave 4: No
Played an early release: No
Received Achievement on Early Release: No
Last played games: Forza3, Halo3, GH5, GH: Metallica.
Allways verfied Games: Not really

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: apsync on November 10, 2009, 02:45:00 AM

Banned: No
DVD Drive version: Samsung MS25
Age of console: 2,5 years
HDD size: No HDD
HDD official or fake: No HDD
Country: the Netherlands
iXtreme: 1.61
Used Activate.iso?: Yes (To play Tekken 6 [including online])
Played Wave 4: Yes
Played an early release: Yes (Fifa 10, removed the network cable)
Received Achievement on Early Release: Not sure...
Last played games: CoD 4, Tekken 6, Fifa 10
Allways verfied Games: Yes, always.

edit:

QUOTE(admiraljdn @ Nov 10 2009, 07:37 AM)

Now that you mention.... I do also buy stuff from Xbox Live. Like Live Season 2.0 for Fifa 10 and such. I spent around 80 Euro this year...

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: sofa king dumb on November 10, 2009, 08:38:00 AM

QUOTE(WhiteWidows @ Nov 10 2009, 05:27 AM)

1 Thing very weird is that now when I turn off my 360 the fan stays on, and does not shut off. Anyone shed some light on that?

mine does that too when only when the ethernet cable is plugged in....if you unplug your box's power and ethernet and just reconnect the power but not the internet and then turn it on/off it wont...

it blinks the center of the ring of light when its for this for me.....its supposed to mean its using power saving mode to download content off marketplace, but i am not dl'ing anything from market place

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: d4rk5ky on November 10, 2009, 09:19:00 AM

Country: Canada
Banned: No
Xbox Date: 2008-10-29
DVD Drive Version: Lite-On DG-16D2S v.7485
Firmware: ix 1.51, Used CK3 Pro to mod.
HDD: Yes, 120gb hacked.
Newest Game: Forza Motorsport 3
ABGX Verified: All Games
Play Early Rls: No

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: Nemesis2007 on November 10, 2009, 11:51:00 AM

i can confirm the best way to find out if your flagged for a ban is registering your console then
try and set up a repair you will see an error message that says this page is unavailable = Ban

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: DiscoveryX360 on November 10, 2009, 11:59:00 AM

QUOTE(Nemesis2007 @ Nov 10 2009, 01:51 PM)

i can confirm the best way to find out if your flagged for a ban is registering your console then
try and set up a repair you will see an error message that says this page is unavailable = Ban

or flagged to be checked again and banned, that's my theory anyway, if you are flagged many times you'll get the ban but if they check you and come clean after going back to stock you can possibly avoid it hopefully lol..

People on this page should really go and register http://support.xbox....spx?step=repair and check if they can "request a repair" and see if they get the page error.

Don't get a false sense of security, I can go online myself and do whatever but I am still flagged.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: sofa king dumb on November 10, 2009, 02:55:00 PM

QUOTE(DiscoveryX360 @ Nov 10 2009, 07:59 PM)

i dont trust that, its probably a trap. get flagged just for register to that

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: cardyology on November 11, 2009, 08:08:00 AM

Banned: No
DVD Drive version: Liteon (was a spoofed benq for a while untill the liteon hack arrived)
Age of console: bought sept 08
HDD size: 120gig
HDD official or fake: real
Country: UK
iXtreme: Benq w/1.4>then 1.5> liteon 1.6
Used Activate.iso?: Yes (To play MW2[including online])
Played Wave 4: Yes
Played an early release: Yes, lots including that reall dodgy 4 week early fallout 3 that everyone said was a review copy waaaaay back
Received Achievement on Early Release: Deffo
Last played games: COD4, COD5, GH Metallica, MW2
Allways verfied Games: Only get iso's from usenet, base on the fileneams on ABGX

Im not sure why i havnt been banned yet, I dont care if i do get banned.
One extra bit of info *I have never played a legit game in this box, not once!*

*FUCK* microsoft.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: RdCvcRCR on November 11, 2009, 11:14:00 AM

1. What Fw were you using (pls inc drive model)??benq 1.6 now 1.61 jungle flasher

2. Have you always used disks you ripped yourself exclusively??yes

3. Have you played any ripped wave4 games ??yes

4. Have you used activate.iso or any other similar disk eg 0800 ?? i used activate.iso

5. Do you employ the use of ABGX? most of my games i didnt use ABGX

6. Did you get banned before or after latest update 'The .N wireless late OCT'? NO, I havent been on Live since 11/2/09

7. Has your console (motherboard) ever been powered without the SATA cable attached between the drive and console?? eg when flashing or ripping (the E64 question)? NO

8. Have you ever played games pre-release?? YES

9. If you have played any titles released in the last 3 weeks before your ban?? (No Names. A simple Yes or No)? NOT BANNED and i did play 1 game way before its release. I use a separate offline profile for my pre-release games

10. Do you have any other console mods?? eg. 250gbHDD,12volt fans etc..? NO

11. How old is you console (rough guess will do it's also printed on the back) 2008 elite

12.Are you directly or indirectly employed by Microsoft?? NO
13. What region in the world are you from? NORTH AMERICA

I barely use ABGX and ive been on 1.6 now i am on 1.61. I load all my games to the hard drive. I am not banned. I havent been on LIVE since 11/2. Could playing all games from HD not cause it throw a code?

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: hollowtip on November 12, 2009, 11:46:00 PM

Banned: No
DVD Drive version: Benq
Age of console: 2 years
HDD size: 20 GB
HDD official or fake: Official
Country: US
iXtreme: 1.61
Used Activate.iso?: No
Played Wave 4: Yes
Played an early release: Yes GOW2, NBA2K10, COD: MW2, Borderlands
Received Achievement on Early Release: Yes
Last played games: COD: MWF2, Tekken 6, NBA2K10
Allways verfied Games: No

Just a note: I am supposedly "flagged" when I did the request a repair test. So it will be interesting to see if I get banned the next few days or so, but I've managed to avoid the hammer for a good two years.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: evolancer276 on November 13, 2009, 12:10:00 AM

Banned: No
DVD Drive version: Benq
Age of console: 2 years
HDD size: 120 GB
HDD official or fake: Fake
Country: US
iXtreme: 1.61
Used Activate.iso?: Yes for MWF2
Played Wave 4: Yes
Played an early release: Yes COD: MW2
Received Achievement on Early Release: Yes
Last played games: COD MWF2, Forza 3, COD 4
Allways verfied Games: Yes

Just a quick question, I just disconnected my xbox from live, and won't be connecting anytime soon. I'm not sure if I'm flagged, but if I just play games offline will my 360 be eventually banned even without connecting to the internet? Like one day I go play a game and a message will pop up saying I'm banned or I have to connect to live for it to be banned? I just want to keep the HD Install option lol

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: PRlME on November 13, 2009, 01:42:00 AM

QUOTE(PRlME @ Nov 7 2009, 02:10 AM)

Update - I was banned yesterday, two of my friends were banned today.

QUOTE(evolancer276 @ Nov 13 2009, 02:10 AM)

Just a quick question, I just disconnected my xbox from live, and won't be connecting anytime soon. I'm not sure if I'm flagged, but if I just play games offline will my 360 be eventually banned even without connecting to the internet? Like one day I go play a game and a message will pop up saying I'm banned or I have to connect to live for it to be banned? I just want to keep the HD Install option lol

You have to go on Live in order to be banned, you're safe offline. I recommend doing the repair check to see if your console is flagged.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: 111111 on November 13, 2009, 06:35:00 AM

Banned: No
DVD Drive version: Liteon
Age of console: 1
HDD size: 20GB
HDD official or fake: Official
Country: Uk
iXtreme: 1.6
Used Activate.iso?: No
Played Wave 4: No
Played an early release: No
Received Achievement on Early Release: No
Last played games: Brutal Legend, Fallout 3 GOTY Disc, Guitar Hero 5
Always verified games: Yes

My console currently turns on, but my profile won't connect to Live. I run the network test fine, sign the profile back in, and I can use Live fine. No network error codes, but suffering from a mild case of '54420'... looks like I don't have much time.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: 111111 on November 13, 2009, 09:35:00 PM

Scratch the above post. Banned this evening :3

Although it's great that banned bare consoles are selling on eBay for £60-70, and I can buy a refurb arcade for £100...

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: rrburkha on November 14, 2009, 01:07:00 AM

DVD Drive: liteon
firmware spoofed?: no
Pirate anything?: yes
Newest game: madden 10
Amount of burned games played since the first modded: 5-10
Comments about your history: don't go on live much and haven't playing my xbox at all in the last few months.

i haven't been flagged or banned and i think part of it has to do with my lack of online activity as well as the fact that i don't have many games. the few people that i have heard of getting banned without a modded system have generally had a ton of games or played a release early.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: anarki001 on November 14, 2009, 02:23:00 PM

QUOTE(anarki001 @ Nov 9 2009, 11:18 PM)

Just an update, I logged into Live this morning and got banned.

But I went out today and brought a PS3 so meh.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: Bradley687 on November 14, 2009, 09:27:00 PM

Marked for Banned (5540 error on page)
ixtreme 1.60
Lite-on 8XXXX
Powered on CK for flash
Played Wave 3 and 4 games with activate.iso

Modded but not banned or marked (Works on Repair webpage).
ixtreme 1.51
Hitachi 49
Powered by XBOX power supply
Played just wave 2 and 3 games

----------------------------------------------------------------

The Hitachi XBOX has not been connected to live in months. It has not gotten the wireless update patch XBOX rolled out a few weeks back. I registered the console and was able to request a repair and advance.

My Lite-on drive has been online daily, played games online while connected to live, even used it for Netflix like crazy. I'm sure its marked to be banned because the repair website returns that 5440 error on this console.

I bought a legit XBOX I am not going to mod. I registered it and was able to request a repair on the XBOX.

----------------------------------------------------------------

Just stating what I got.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: OmegaSix on November 14, 2009, 10:15:00 PM

Oh how the mighty have fallen

. I got banned last week and took the same route as you Bradley687. Bought a new un-modded box to play retail LIVE games on.

Ixtreme 1.61
BenQ
Played pre-release early before release offline only (did not reconnect until release dates)
Wave 3 and 4

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: Beetlebug on November 15, 2009, 04:21:00 AM

Are there anybody left not banned? Seems MS is getting absolutely everybody. And with the latest 360's not flashable it seems MS might actually manage tp keep Live piracy free from now on.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: Merkie on November 15, 2009, 05:34:00 AM

I have been online almost everyday for the last two weeks, still not banned yet.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: gsxr on November 15, 2009, 05:56:00 AM

guys can i use the saves and profile on my 20gb on my new elite 360 and not get it banned the 20gb is coming from a banned

so i can use like my old saves and unlocked fighting characters but....

im scared to even plug in the banned consoles 20 gb into my brand new fresh elite console i just got. with 120 gig hd.... search just aint the same... thanks.. for info.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: Merkie on November 15, 2009, 06:08:00 AM

QUOTE(Merkie @ Nov 15 2009, 01:34 PM)

I have been online almost everyday for the last two weeks, still not banned yet.

And there I jinxed myself. Banhammer has arrived.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: Beetlebug on November 15, 2009, 07:27:00 AM

QUOTE(Merkie @ Nov 15 2009, 02:08 PM)

And there I jinxed myself. Banhammer has arrived.

Heh. Can't be many people left now.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: ssidewinder on November 15, 2009, 09:28:00 AM

ix1.61 on Bneq and not banned yet so I'm gonna keep it that way. I got scared about couple weeks ago and I assigned a static IP to the console and blocked internet access on the router. I never play on live and I don't really care about other live features. Only features I care about are media center and install capability which are still intact so its business as usual for me.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: durty on November 15, 2009, 09:41:00 AM

I am still not banned but I refuse to connect my xbox until a new fw is release...it will be worth a shot i hope

Either way I have a unmodded xbox for codMW2

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: Merumeru on November 15, 2009, 10:17:00 AM

QUOTE(Merumeru @ Nov 9 2009, 11:30 AM)

XD just got hit yesterday, o well

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: Busby on November 15, 2009, 11:15:00 AM

I'm still not banned and playing MOW2 each day since release.

Running 1.41 firmware on a Phillips drives.

My only thought on why I've escaped the ban is that I pay the £5 a month option instead of the 12/6 month pre paid.

Other than that no idea.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: sofa king dumb on November 15, 2009, 01:09:00 PM

i havent connected in about 3 days i think, but i think ill reflash to stock before connecting...then make a new thread since too many are updating themselfs as banned...

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: Jer4251 on November 15, 2009, 05:38:00 PM

not offically banned yet. but i have been marked wih the repair test page. guess ill never get it back online with this one. going to use it for offline play then upload achievements through my other box. i want to keep my hdd working like it should.

hey, we had a good run, i know i did. was banned back with the halo 3 beta. once that box broke, i sold it and grabbed a new arcade, and modded my 07 elite. now its banned i'll have to go back to renting games for live.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: Zod5000 on November 15, 2009, 05:54:00 PM

I can't confirm or deny that I've been banned.

Last time I checked was last Saturday.

I can't use the repair method to check because it says my console is already registered (which I find is wierd).

I'm hoping its something that occurs when a disc (original or copy) is in the drive. This might indicate i'm not banned, as I don't use live for gaming at all, I pretty much just used to to by dlc or arcade games, which means the drive was always empty when the ethernet cable was in.

With so many people banned now I'm not sure I want to test my luck. Especially since we don't know whats causing the bans yet. If connecting once more gives them another look at my drive, that might be a bad idea.

I'll hold off until we find out what MS is doing to verify the firmware. I'm still hoping there using the jitter correction or something disc related to identify the firmware.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: brunoheart on November 16, 2009, 08:14:00 AM

I got done yesterday on my old one.Keeping my new 09/2009 "straight" & playing back ups on the other (testing)

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: boolee on November 16, 2009, 09:02:00 AM

Manufacturer's date of the box: jan/2008 (not sure)
DVD Drive: BENQ
firmware spoofed?: 1.4.1 (probably)
Pirate anything?: no, borrowed backup at first.
Newest game: PES2010 (original)
Amount of burned games played since the first modded: 5-10
Comments about your history: Played a few backups at first (new videogame...curiosity... you know) 'till start using LIVE june last year. Playing only originals since then.
Belief on banning: M$ is monitoring/detecting modded dvd drive behavior (in this case the stealth check). 1.4.1 for BENQ doesn't have stealth check...so...

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: Rev666 on November 16, 2009, 09:34:00 AM

Hope you guys survive tomorrows update.
Post back if you don't.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: svnieuw2 on November 16, 2009, 01:53:00 PM

Haven't been bannedor flagged. I didn't update my xbox for a while, because i was waiting for the Free60 JTAG hack. I've updated now (last 2 updated) and have been online for a number of times, but without a game in the console. I guess they need a game (original or not) to verify that you have a modded xbox.

Banned: No
XBox: Jasper 256mb
DVD Drive version: Lite-On
Age of console: 10-10-2008
HDD size: 20GB
HDD official or fake: Regular
Country: PAL EU
iXtreme: 1.6
Newest game: Star Ocean
Amount of burned games played since the first modded: +- 30
Used Activate.iso?: No
Played Wave 4: No
Wave of the last game played: 3
Played an early release: Yes, but not logged in on any profile though with no HDD connected
Received Achievement on Early Release: No

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: Zod5000 on November 18, 2009, 07:18:00 PM

I got brave and check this morning.

Banned: Nope

Drive: BenQ
Firmware: 1.6.1 (was 1.6 when the banwave hit, Console is a falcon so I've used every version since 1.4)
Use ABGX360: Yes
Play Backups Online: Never
Play Originals Online: Not since last year
Use Xbox Live at All? Only to download arcade games or DLC (never have a disc in the tray)
Hard Drive: 120gb from upgrade kit (official hd)
Use Activate ISO: Nope
Wave 4? : Nope
Played a game early? : not in a long time and never while logged into live

Since I'm not banned. I'm also think there detecting firmware behaviour, which probably occurs with a disc in the drive. Since so many people are banned, I think its something the firmware does regardless if an original or backup is in the drive.

Are there alot of other people who don't use live for playing games? I accidently left a backup in for about two minutes last year, and then unplugged the ethernet cable, but other then, microsoft has had no disc checks to run while i've been on live.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: debasturd on November 18, 2009, 09:10:00 PM

well ive only had 1 consle banned out of 8 and all have been on live since banning started almost all of my friends got the hammer but 4 hell i was playin cod wit them last night 4 6 hours still no ban
the main consle i use has a benq 161 spoofed as a lite on has played over 100 back ups and early games all wave 4s and never verified all while connected to live still going just fine go figure all the rest have benqs and lite ons 1.6 and 1.61 and still no problems with those either and the last bans ive herd of was friday has there been anymore since and not counting 0nes where you havent been online in 2 weeks and just checked

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: boolee on November 19, 2009, 06:59:00 PM

QUOTE(boolee @ Nov 16 2009, 02:02 PM)

Still alive...

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: theskybluejawdy on November 20, 2009, 09:02:00 AM

Manufacturer's date of the box: 2005 - 11 - 06
DVD Drive: benq
firmware spoofed?: spoofed? 1.6 i think
Pirate anything?:(simple yes or no, no details!) yes
Newest game: halo odst nfs shift borderlands mw2 riddick
Amount of burned games played since the first modded: (rough guess, 5?10?50?over 9000?) 50
Comments about your history: I got a launch console that i didnt have modified til jan 09.I had previously had the RRoD and it was sent away to ms for a legit repair and has a benq in it now .My friend had a similarly old console which got flashed by the same person at the same time as mine did. he got RRod after this and bought and elite in the summer. we both had various later flash's always to the latest fw always by the same guy and within a day or 2 of each other. We both played the same games burnt on the same discs and from the same source however he played a greater range of games than myself and played while connected to xbox live but never played multiplayer. He installed to hdd and played games prior to retail release and even verification sometimes , i didnt. I on the other hand played lots of multiplayer eg odst ,nfs shift ,borderlands etc about a week ago he got banned since then i have only been online twice for 5 mins each time to check if i was banned or not.I am thinking about keeping this console for offline use for backups and getting an elite for online use and swapping the hdds around

Belief on banning: no idea - fw detection , drive speeds , media type ....who knows c4eva?

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: Beetlebug on November 20, 2009, 01:48:00 PM

QUOTE(Zod5000 @ Nov 19 2009, 03:18 AM)

This.

I had one backup 360 which was flashed with 1.6 firmware when that came out. It had never been used.

I gave it to my brother and he logged on Live 3 weeks ago. It has NEVER had a game inside it, backup or original. Only used for XBLA stuff and movie rentals. He's not banned either.

So MS are definitely only able to detect something when games are played from the dvd drive.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: Cedru on November 20, 2009, 03:32:00 PM

QUOTE

Having seen the banhammer going nuts these last couple of weeks, it was inevatble that the speculation about how and why some comments being smart and calculated, some being positivley stupid.

However out of shear curiosity we figured wed throw our own speculation into the wind and share with you a couple of tests we did that showed interesting results (but by all means conclusive). Remember this is SPECULATION !

Scenario: 4 Xboxs. Unused all Liteon 74580C (March 2009).

Box 1: Connect virgin to Live. Let it do all the latest live updates. Flash to iXtreme v1.6. No backup games.

Box 2: Connect virgin to Live. Let it do all the latest live updates. Flash to iXtreme v1.6. Play Fifa 10 backup (abgx verified).

Box 3: Flash to iXtreme v1.6 out of the box. Connect to live. Let it do all the latest live updates. No backup games.

Box 4: Flash to iXtreme v1.6 out of the box. Connect to live. Let it do all the latest live updates. Play Fifa 10 backup (abgx verified).

Results after 1 week.

Box 1: Still on Live.
Box 2: Still on Live.
Box 3: Banned ?
Box 4: Banned ???

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: not2able on November 21, 2009, 09:14:00 AM

That infromation above, says it all. They check boxes right after the update. Flash....when an update comes...dotn take it...flash back to stock....then take the updates...then flash back to ixtreme

Those that didnt get banned...did you flash AFTER the update?

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: Zod5000 on November 21, 2009, 10:53:00 AM

QUOTE(not2able @ Nov 21 2009, 09:14 AM)

I flashed before and after the update. My console is about 2 years old, and since v. 1.4 I've kept up with the upgrades and have now flashed to 1.6.1 as well.

If the firmware is detected through a disc based check (regardless of it being an orig or back), the solution might be as simple as making sure the drive tray is empty when you do the upgrade?

I use live for gaming, this when connected to live the drive tray is always empty. I just go on to download DLC or Arcade Games.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: svnieuw2 on November 21, 2009, 11:31:00 AM

QUOTE(Zod5000 @ Nov 21 2009, 06:53 PM)

I flashed before the update too. I don't think that they only check when you update. That's too simple. I guess they do multiple checks, even if you're playing offline.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: sofa king dumb on November 21, 2009, 12:10:00 PM

yeah i flashed 1.51->16.1 after the update, i think. and it was a big update for me cus i havent played since june

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: mike0580a on November 21, 2009, 03:17:00 PM

After my primary 360 was banned, I flased an older Elite/BenQ back to stock firmware that hadn't been online in months. I verified it couldn't read backups and then connected it to live with a retail game . It demanded and update and was immediately banned. My guess is the update that identified modded consoles came out several month ago and MS took some time to collect/sort data, and possibly do some legal consultations, prior to launching the actual ban.

In Windows, device manager and msinfo can identify firmware version so I'm guessing whatever MS loaded onto the 360s can too

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: Zod5000 on November 21, 2009, 04:08:00 PM

QUOTE(mike0580a @ Nov 21 2009, 03:17 PM)

Yah I don't think it was the recent update. There were a number of posts stating people got banned and never installed that update.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: player002 on November 21, 2009, 08:27:00 PM

had a lite-on modded with 1.51 lasted most of the ban wave updated it to 1.6 so icould play wave 4 games .1 week b4 it got banned when i turned it off drive was still spinnin like crazy and green light was flashing same way it does when u turn off the sytem and it does a background download hmmm weird.next day turned on box no ban almost a week later playin smackdown turned system off same stuff happened again next day turned on box would not sign in forced it then got ban message.
i only played smackdown vs raw early like 2 days maybe this set a flag ?also did not get banned until I flashed to 1.6 and played wave 4 my games are made for me from orginal rips never really checked them though.after ban i checked my games and 3 failed smackdown ,ballad of gay tony and ufc i have since replaced em and the check out.

got a new system did gamer tag recovery and game saves are good put 1.6 on it i have logged into live and played (not against others computer)and downloaded updates still fine ,i have disabled background downloads cause i feel if i dont microsoft will look at my system.this xbox has been modded after the 13th of nov so maybe the ban wave is over??
I say do not play mw2 online i think there are some hidden files in the wave 4 games especialy that ppl have been banned instantly playin that one. take off background downloads and install all games that u play online to the hard drive that way there will be no drive checks why would they disable it makes u wonder ,it spins like for 2 sec when installed to hard drive.This i just a thought but run the iso disc for every game cause it disables stealth check if i was a betting man i would say playin early get's u flagged and playing a bad rip gets u banned and maybe playin orginals on modded gets u banned cause those games load alot faster dunno just my 2 cents

This post has been edited by player002: Nov 22 2009, 04:29 AM

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: sofa king dumb on November 22, 2009, 07:32:00 PM

QUOTE(player002 @ Nov 22 2009, 04:27 AM)

mine tried that drive spinning and green like flashing like it was doing a background download, but the Ethernet cable wasn't plugged in, nor the drive spin when it does background downloads. i unplugged the 360 before it could read anything from the disc, i think.....i always keep it unplugged when not on to save on the electric bill...

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: dibbz on November 24, 2009, 03:52:00 PM

Finally worked up the courage to do the repair request test.

Manufacturer's date of the box: 2008-07-
DVD Drive: Liteon w/ ix 1.6 repack
firmware spoofed?: nah
Pirate anything?: yeh
Newest game: virtua tennis 2009
Amount of burned games played since the first modded: 20
Comments about your history: mostly play xbl arcade

verified all games, didn't play online much.. none in 8 weeks but accidentally booted one 3 weeks ago and exitied straight away. Have had a backup in the tray for the last 6 weeks+, even during dash updates. played cod4 online for 30 minutes?

Usually just play xbl arcade games, bought 2000 points 6 months ago... peggle ftw

Console hasn't been turned on 2 weeks since banhammer.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: Neptune on November 25, 2009, 07:18:00 AM

Manufacturer's date of the box: 2008 and 2006
DVD Drive: LiteOn & Samsung
firmware spoofed?: No.
Pirate anything?:(simple yes or no, no details!) Yes
Newest game: Dragon Age: Origins
Amount of burned games played since the first modded: (rough guess, 5?10?50?over 9000?) More than 50
Comments about your history: Nothing of interest...
Belief on banning:

They must do checks throughout the year at different intervals. I say this because on both of my systems, I have yet to be banned.

My Samsung is running Xtreme 5.3 and the LiteOn is running 1.51.

Neither are banned but I do not play games constantly and before release date like other people. I do log on and do play for a few hours when I am on. The only other thing I can say is I have probably spent a couple hundred bucks on XBLA.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: unknownUzer on November 26, 2009, 03:15:00 AM

Ok, first off i know how you all feel about. "1st post" replies, and i just wanna say, ive been a member here for over 2 years, but due to levels of precaution and paranoia, i did not feel comfortable with posting to this particular topic with my normal account... But let me say one thing first... HOW RETARDED IS IT TO POST YOUR CURRENT SYSTEM SETUP, FIRMWARE MODE REV., AND STATUS ON HOW MANY BACKUPS YOU HAVE THAT U PLAY ON XBL...... AND THEN NEXT TO YOUR POST HAVE A GAMERCARD PICTURE WITH YOUR GAMERTAG ON IT??? I mean.... one minute you post... " Still Runnin Strong .. no ban yet..." and suddenly 2 days later ... "
Nevermind, got banned today..." can u make it any easier for em? And think about this... most people with mods, have friends with mods as well, so now you also subject the 50+ people on your friends list to have a random check for modded files... im sorry.
But REALLY YA'LL..... REALLY?? Anyways ... the point of this post was to say, M$ is BULL$HITTING you all into believing they can do firmware checks on the fly... I am a PC repair technician, certified, and i have modded every system ive owned... ( notice... not stupid enough to post under real id, or include gamertag/email/ whatever...lol).

** Now, the only way they could do that is if they had a proprietary code programmed into the Dashboard already that was able to be triggered by a remote command that they send in an auto-update... But heres the thing... M$ are just the kinda A$$holes who
Would have that run in every update.... and probably everytime you load a game going to XBL... They wouldnt have waited til 2009
To drop this "magic update" that enables it... and they also wouldnt be "Fishing for Information" by having their team spread
False info about the Banhammer of the new update thats catching firmwares... think how late they are if that was the case... ive got a friend with over 100 backups, and im sure some of yall do too... i understand MW2 was a big deal... but so was HALO 3... and it
Didnt get this outta hand!!... Im almost 100% positive that M$ just finally got a brain, and said " lets
Devote a new department, to dealing with all the system mods available, so we can try to eliminate the problem at its base!
So they download Jungleflasher... have the team mod the systems... and run tests to see whats different 'Exception' wise about the
Way the original FW runs, and the Hack runs... then take the results, and see what the real XBL programming team can do about
Retrieving some of that data remotely from machines connecting to XBL, ... even if its a log file the system makes while offline...
(Easier on their servers actually) ... Make sense? Now them saying they can detect modded FW is BS.... they can assume that the
FW is modded by a system of checks that reply the data tested earlier... but they cannot check your firmware remotely without a disc in the DVD drive, and the system on the dashboard screen... once the game is running, the system dedicates itself to the GPU and CPU to "MAKE YOUR GAME KICK PS3 ASS!" ...

NOW IM NOT SAYING THAT THEY DIDNT BUMP UP WHATEVER THEY ARE TESTING WITH, TO A STRICTER PROTOCOL WHEN THEY
SENT OUT THE 10/30/09 UPDATE... but bottom line... if u got banned, you triggered SOMETHING in the security alert profile on the
XBL server, or the system itself...

Mine:
Xbox Elite
Mf 2007
Benq w/ 1.61. (Flashed 2 days after update) ((powered by xbox system))
No activate.iso needed
No early release games played
No early achievements
** Never had a backup in my dvd drive while on XBL***
All games installed to Hard Drive so disc barely even runs to start game...
Havent been on XBOX Live LESS THAN 8 TO 10 HRS A DAY... ( I WORK FROM HOME SO I CAN PLAY GAMES ALL DAY IF I WANT... LOL)
**not banned... no flags... checked secdata... checked warranty... checked network... NOTHING...
Also NOT WORRIED...
Go to #ixtreme on the IRC and talk C4eva yourself... (he's not very responsive, but hes always on!)

He said in the room in all caps, during an arguement some idiots were having...

"YOUR SYSTEM MANUFACTURE DATE, AND YOUR DVD DRIVE MODEL PLAY A LARGE ROLL AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE DETECTABLE! ... systems made before 2008 may have not had the onboard NVRAM. Large enough to store that information along with the operating system... so if u have the lucky Pre-2008 models of 360 with the Benq, or Ts-943 then your drive is basically testing 100% normal to any command they send... "

Thanx... sorry for the long post, but i just wanted to shed some light/ toss out some ideas to think on!

UnknownUzer. (Unknown User... lol). Come on M$ ... Ban me... I. DARE YA!!...

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: unknownUzer on November 26, 2009, 05:55:00 AM

Ok... this my friends is confirmed...
About 15 minutes ago i got a phone call from my friend, (unnamed) who works as a game lead tester at Midway Games... He actually works in the home console division, so he pretty much has all midway games about 2 months or more before release, and goes back over the code if theres issues/errors during certain sequences in the game... He said to me, "Hey bro, watch out if u play any games that say they require an update to play, and you arent connected to XBL... If your dashboard is recent within last year, then all games released Dec. 2008, through Dec. 2009 dont require any updates EXCEPT for connecting to XBL, which wont get triggered by loading the game unless you are currently connected.!" His full explanation was that he just learned that M$ has been requiring certain game developers to input an additional "Security Script" that will auto update-notify on the system when first booted WITH A HARD DRIVE OR NOT!!... The update is 100% required to retain XBL functionality of that game, so if u refuse it, u cant connect... Now one of his beta games, got put into his computer by his son, and being a 7 year old he didnt know any better, and just started hitting enter on anything that came up... well now his HP DVD RW DL drive, doesnt even recognize in windows anymore... Meaning the disc modified the firmware of the drive somehow.. I cant give any more detail, because specifics can link him to this info... but basically, if this is true, M$ has been backdoor in alot of our systems for over a year... so its very possible that these companies games (EA, Activision, Namco, Epic, Bungie, Midway, 2K, THQ, Valve, and im sure more by now!!) Have been working with M$ all along on getting us to unknowingly install a Backup Detection system on our 360's in return for M$ promising a HUGE knockout of firmware and system mods... ( Win - Win, more system sales for M$, less pirates hitting the producers!) ... the reason some of us are escaping, is 1 like i said before, the older manufacured systems... but #2. I believe could be whether or not we have installed these updates and maybe if somehow having certain FW installed already or, not installed has any effect on the game triggering the auto-install script on the disc... ... i gotta run some tests myself now, but i believe THAT is how M$ is tagging some of us... i never install updates off the game disc... and definitely dont go near XBL with backups of the newer games... Left 4 Dead 2, MW2, Assassins Creed 2...i just dont let my backups near my drive if that ethernet cord is plugged in... and being that all my games are installed on my hd, but i dont do the updates (except for originals) then maybe thats why im not detected... (1 or more games run some kind of sysinfo scan, and ques the log file for auto upload on next connect to XBL... the data somehow doesnt match the "Original Pressing" checksum, (or maybe it matches exactly to an ABGX value) and BAM, YOU ARE OFFICIALLY CAUGHT WITH YOUR HAND IN THE COOKIE JAR!... THINK ABOUT ALL THIS... I WILL KEEP POSTING AS I LEARN MORE...

Once again, sorry for the "anonymous" style postings, but its the only way i see safety... but like i said... no one has to believe ANYTHING im saying... but i will reveal only true information ive learner from reliable sources, or results from tests i run myself... ive got 2 volunteer 360's to play with and see what i can find out... once LT comes out, i will reveal myself...

Peace. UU.

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Post by: Zod5000 on November 26, 2009, 11:00:00 AM

QUOTE(unknownUzer @ Nov 26 2009, 05:55 AM)

that would sort of explain why I haven't been banned. As I don't play games on live, this never connect to live with games in the drive (copies or originals).

however lots of people have use the policy of backups offline / originals online and that hasn't prevented them from banning?

Also I haven't been queuried for any offline updates on any games, so are these updates still on live?

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: unknownUzer on November 26, 2009, 11:31:00 AM

yes, i tested the retail Tekken 6 disk, FaceBreakers, and Need for Speed Carbon... all of these games stopped me from loading in the beginning with a "There is an update available from Xbox Live" message, and when i declined the update, it said in order to establish a connection with xbox live i must run the update in the future...

This was tested on a 360 Pro system, that isnt modded, and i purposely updated it to the most recent XBOX system update by recovering my gamertag to it, to make sure i was completely up to date. Facebreakers is an EA Sports game, Tekken is Namco, Need For Speed Carbon is a 2K...

Now again, if you open up your system you wanna look at the mfg date on the DVD Drive and the Board itself and if you have a BenQ, or the TS-943, and its mfg before 2008 then you only have 16Megs NVRAM on your system, thus theres not any free area to store added code, or even the full NXE, it will ask for a Memory Card just to update the dashboard... Meaning the system wouldnt be able to be remote flashed by M$... (maybe bad choice of terms, but you understand what i mean) And therefore the system may not trigger this update thats on the Disc. The Pro system i tested it on was mfg May '08, and the DVD is a Lite-On January '08 ...

Now i havent played FaceBreakers on my modded system ever... and i just flashed it 3 days after the Halloween update...

When I started the system i left it connected to the Ethernet, and loaded the FaceBreakers DVD (not installed to the hard disk) I didnt get ANYTHING... no XBOX Live Update at all... and my system connected right to XBL signed me in, and proceeded to load the game... No problems!

There's definitely something to this "Security Script" M$ is implanting into some games... and it would make sense that they use the newer games to do it also... I'd say 75% of the people i know who were banned had it happen when they loaded Call Of Duty MW 2... A few had it happpen when they played Left For Dead 2... And 5 of us chipped in on the Call of Duty MW2 retail disc, and 6 on the Left for dead 2 disc... all of us have the mods, but i'm the only one with the BenQ pre-'08 .. all their systems were newer, and every one of them was banned on the first load of those games! Except me... I have the games installed to my HD but never played while Live was connected... But I play my Gears of War 2 retail disc for hours a day, and my Tekken 6 retail for a few a day as well ON THE MODDED SYSTEM.. No probs whatsoever... no flags... weird system running... my warranty status is still fine, and theres no weird network code...

(My first LUCKY BREAK EVER!!)

let me know if anyone else has had similar results... cuz this may be the answer as to how they are getting people... or at least one of the solid possibilities!

Laterz

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Post by: The_Doctor on November 26, 2009, 11:37:00 AM

Manufacturer's date of the box: Mid-Late 08 (sept time)
DVD Drive: Benq
firmware spoofed?: Spoofed as lite-on (74)
Newest game: Left 4 Dead 2
Amount of burned games played since the first modded: 40 ish
Comments about your history: started on 1.51 with the lite on, blew it up trying to go to 1.6, temp had a samsung in, bought a benq and put 1.6 on. then 1.61
Belief on banning: shit happens, doesn't it.

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: unknownUzer on November 26, 2009, 03:15:00 PM

OK... got lucky and found a volunteer who didnt give a $hit about XBL on their system, or HD installs.. My stepdad... LOL...

Anyways, this is about as far as i can take the tests without more systems, but I definitely identified one way they are catching systems, and it is what i said earlier exactly...

PROOF:

I opened the "Test" 360 and found it to be mfg July '08, and DVD drive April '08 ...
Dont know the Board type ... (Jasper, etc)
DVD Drive - Samsung/TS-943

All original specs...

I flashed the DVD Drive to 1.61 firmware mod, and thats all...

Re-assembled the case, and tested the flash with the COD MW2 backup i use on my own system...

Played for about 2 minutes OFFLINE ...

Connected up the Ethernet Cable, and clicked connect to XBOX LIVE...

Signed up a Silver Membership, and as soon as it connect to XBOX LIVE the DVD Drive started running LOUDLY and Fast, and the game tried to startup automatically...

It reached the Title Screen, and then kicked itself right back to the Dashboard and ***POW***

"Disconnected from Xbox Live"

Unable to connect to Xbox Live...

Ran network tests... and sure enough

W: 0000 - 000B
X: 0000 - F001
Y: 00A8 - 6860
Z: 8015 - 190D (banned)

Rebooted Xbox, and got the Ban Message!

...

So my conclusion is that the Games themselves are installing the code to your system that gives some kind of "Checksum" report and sends it to XBL ... If the data compares up bad, then YOU'RE GONE! ...

...

So this is my last post under this id... I will be back when LT is out and we are safe again, cuz i'm almost certain that M$ is retrieving ISP or IP information and also using that to hunt down modded consoles based on people's replies here and other forums... Sounds hard but it aint, and I'm not gettin hit by it!

If you want to talk further, send me a message on this forum to this nick, and i will respond when i can...

...

GOOD LUCK ALL, watch what you play,...

Im still ban free and im staying that way! Now COD, or Left 4 Dead online for me til LT.....

PLEASE HURRY C4!

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Post by: Zod5000 on November 27, 2009, 12:13:00 AM

QUOTE(unknownUzer @ Nov 26 2009, 03:15 PM)

or its still some kind of disc based check, since your disc is in the drive when you get banned?

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Post by: unknownUzer on November 28, 2009, 01:40:00 AM

Yeah my bad bro... thats what i meant actually, i just worded it wrong... I think some direct check on the system itself happens, but certain games trigger it i think... and not a few... but a lot of them. I just meant that there was definitely some form of program code loaded to the system during the last update (halloween) At least thats what my tests concluded...

(and my primary system is still swingin...)

(praying that C4 has all successful tests, and will release soon!!!...)

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: census007 on November 29, 2009, 12:36:00 AM

Manufacturer's date of the box: Idk
DVD Drive: Hitc 46 1.51
firmware spoofed?:no
Pirate anything?:(simple yes or no, no details!)yes
Newest game: Brütal Legends and MW2
Amount of burned games played since the first modded: alot
Comments about your history:Played MW2 offline and had it install to my xbox. my other xbox got banned so
i deleted it and the game save from this xbox. got back on live 5 days ago and didnt get banned (knock on wood.) playing street fighter 4 now.
Belief on banning:something about wave 4 games.

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Post by: justme2027 on December 06, 2009, 12:53:00 PM

Manufacturer's date of the box: 2007
DVD Drive:Benq
firmware spoofed?: no
Back-up anything?:(simple yes or no, no details!): yes
Newest game: MW2
Amount of burned games played since the first modded: (rough guess, 5?10?50?over 9000?) 5
Comments about your history:
modded right after the ban wave, and still have not been online with current firmware of 1.61. I have been online after i flashed back to OFW, and continue to go back and forth if i do need to go online - i use a memory card when playing back-ups nad my HD when playing on OFW
Belief on banning:
Clearly there is some check on the FW either when you go online with modded, or if there is an xbox update with modded FW

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: lcollier93 on December 06, 2009, 09:15:00 PM

Manufacturer's date of the box: 2008 (Falcon)
DVD Drive: BenQ Ixtreme 1.6
firmware spoofed?: nah
Pirate anything?:(simple yes or no, no details!) no, just backups.
Newest game: Modern Warfare 2
Amount of burned games played since the first modded: 3 or 4 (rough guess, 5?10?50?over 9000?)
Comments about your history: Flashed a few months ago. NEVER played burned game on xbox live or with hard drive in.
Belief on banning: something checks response times...new wave games?

Title: Not Banned Post Here
Post by: devilspy on December 08, 2009, 03:09:00 PM

DVD Drive: SAMSUNG MS28 was 1.41 updated to 1.61
firmware spoofed?: NO
Backups: Yes
Newest game: Modern Warfare 2, Left 4 dead 2 (not online)
Amount of burned games played since the first modded: 20-30
Comments about your history: RROD Box replacement manufactured 12-2006,
Belief on banning: dunno, but unknownUzer makes a good case

Had this box for 2-3 years now, played on live quite a bit, in sporadic bursts
My laser is actually starting to give out.
Could not play new games so did the update to 1.61. Took the box on-line and upgraded to new dash.
Still not banned and can connect to live. Although I haven't played any wave 4 backups on-line. But did go on live with cod mw2 in drive without realizing.

unknownUzer: I did do the update for COD MW2 off the disc, after I did the flash.(could not load previously) So not banned yet.

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Post by: unknownUzer on December 08, 2009, 05:03:00 PM

Still going... playing on XBL daily but only playing originals when connected to live...

***Thoughts***

I have used the XVAL tool to check my secdata and its still clean.. although some people on unnamed irc channels have the STRONGEST BELIEF that my system is "Flagged" and i will be banned in near future... I'm sorry but my fear is beginning to diminish! I strongly believe that YES M$ does have some way of detecting if a burned game is being played online, or offline... but i also think that the quality of your backup files, whether they were a repack, or a 1 to 1 backup has ALOT to do with the detection! ALSO i believe that the quality of your media (ie. verbatim) contributes extremely to this formula! So let me give my details again...

Benq mfd. Jun '07 flashed to 1.6.1
(powered with xbox system!)
Xbox 360 Elite mfd. Aug. '07 and 8955 dash
(dash was updated prior to flashing DVD drive) **possible factor**
Played 7 different backups on system, and installed to HDD ***BUT NEVER PLAYED ON LIVE!!!*** poss. factor

and have even cleared my cache several times to download new 1vs100 data... then had to re-download updates for some of my Retail games when i try to play them on live again...

my only 190% THEORETICAL conclusion is that maybe the XBOX LIVE TERMS OF SERVICE applies only to games that are attempted to be played or updated through XBOX LIVE... Like i said.. only a theory... but in my eyes possible... I have 3 friends who i have performed the flash for and expressed 10000% concern for not playing any backups online, and NONE of them have been banned either, yet we all play 1 common retail game together almost every day on XBL... so take it as you will, but theres some flaws to the Ban theories of "ALL FW MODDED SYSTEMS WILL BE BANNED!!!"

New thoughts should be evaluated as to the exact causes or triggers for this "BANWAVE"

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Post by: Zod5000 on December 09, 2009, 01:12:00 AM

I hadn't checked in a while, so I checked today and I'm still not banned.

I don't use live for multiplayer, just to download dlc and the odd arcade game.

so I play originals/backups offline (well I used to play my halo 3 original online, but its been over a year since I busted out out).

So I'm thinking since I've checked now and again and haven't been banned, that offline play is still ok.. but there's probably some kind of disk based check on backups (maybe even newer originals purposely designed for a certain response) that cause the bans... I guess only time will tell.

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Post by: sveetsnelda on December 09, 2009, 07:28:00 PM

Benq w/itreme 1.6
Falcon board
WDGWD1200BEVS HDD
This box's DVD drive was modified before it was even powered on. I've had it for about 2 years.

When I first started hearing about the bans, I took my box offline. Yesterday, I wanted to grab a few Rock Band songs & was curious if I had been banned (I assumed I had been). Apparently I'm not banned yet. I've been playing backups offline here-and-there since the bans. Only Wave 3 games and prior had been played. When I got online to get songs and check for the ban, I made sure no disc was in the drive.

I have no idea why I'm still not banned. I've played quite a few backups. Maybe it's because I've spent so much money on Rock Band songs?

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Post by: al821 on December 11, 2009, 12:57:00 AM

My friend still isn't banned. He plays backups off line, and only plays retail online. He has an early model that RROD'd on him a few times

This post has been edited by al821: Dec 11 2009, 08:58 AM

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Post by: 360beast on December 11, 2009, 09:24:00 AM

anyone not banned that playes backups online

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Post by: scorpionking77 on December 11, 2009, 06:26:00 PM

QUOTE(360beast @ Dec 11 2009, 05:24 PM)

anyone not banned that playes backups online

modern warfare 2 all week benq spoofed as liteon

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Post by: xxxbobsta on December 12, 2009, 11:34:00 AM

DVD Drive: LiteOn iXtreme 1.6
Pirate anything?:(simple yes or no, no details!): Yes
Newest game: Modern Warfare 2
Amount of burned games played since the first modded: (rough guess, 5?10?50?over 9000?): 1

Flashed drive November 10th (after the october 30th update), been playing modern warfare 2 fine with activation disk online without ban since then.

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Post by: lildimsum7 on December 12, 2009, 01:18:00 PM

wow noob, keep playing. you'll eventually get flagged.
to all those non-ignorant people, wait for ixtreme LT. The bans are caused by the behavior of the modded DVD drive

QUOTE(unknownUzer @ Dec 8 2009, 04:03 PM)

New thoughts should be evaluated as to the exact causes or triggers for this "BANWAVE"

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Post by: SNAAAKE on December 14, 2009, 10:01:00 PM

modded my brothers xbox and went online and tested a few NONE-wave4 games. not banned for a day. using my hard drive which is never banned either. if this xbox doesnt get banned then I am convinced that its the wave4 games. I cant get banned on any of my xboxes(I have 2 brothers but they dont play games and use xbox for movies and netflix) and tested with both of them and no ban.

3 of my xboxes are all lite on drives and 1.6. modded with external power(xecuter kit). only tried wave3 and earlier games. bunch of originals too. same hard drive tested on all xboxes.

This post has been edited by SNAAAKE: Dec 15 2009, 06:07 AM

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Post by: devilspy on December 15, 2009, 01:37:00 PM

QUOTE(devilspy @ Dec 8 2009, 05:09 PM)

1 week update, been playing l4d2, mw2 backups on-line all week.
So far all good, not banned.

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Post by: sofa king dumb on December 16, 2009, 05:07:00 PM

still not banned here, connected today

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Post by: omnislash on December 20, 2009, 06:36:00 PM

Xbox: 2009 Jasper
FW: Ixtreme 1.6 (lite on)
Latest game played: MW2
Offline Time: been offline for about 2 and half months turn on my xbox every other day to check if banned and im still running strong
Xval: Secdata Clean

im thinking about flashing back to original firmware cause at this rate we are probably not gonna get LT ixtreme for a long time

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Post by: Zod5000 on December 20, 2009, 06:51:00 PM

QUOTE(omnislash @ Dec 20 2009, 06:36 PM)

Xbox: 2009 Jasper
FW: Ixtreme 1.6 (lite on)
Latest game played: MW2
Offline Time: been offline for about 2 and half months turn on my xbox every other day to check if banned and im still running strong
Xval: Secdata Clean
im thinking about flashing back to original firmware cause at this rate we are probably not gonna get LT ixtreme for a long time

I'm thinking of backwards flashing to 1.4.1 for benq. I was reading in the hardware thread (or maybe the backup thread), that there's rumors its being detected through timing. IE since the firmware does checks to see if the stealth files are there, and that they fit certain parameters, that it can be detected, because it takes longer then a standard check from regular firmware... nothing confirmed.

It seems to indicate that using a non-stealth firmware (which I think still uses stealth files, it just doesn't check them) might avoid banning. This does rely on your discs being made correctly (as well as the abgx database). I do realize alot of people using 1.4 or 1.4.1 aren't banned, but i figured it was because there weren't many people left using it.

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Post by: omnislash on December 20, 2009, 07:08:00 PM

QUOTE(Zod5000 @ Dec 20 2009, 06:51 PM)

well i dont think i can get 1.41 on my lite on can i?

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Post by: daman22 on December 21, 2009, 09:51:00 AM

since LT is on hodl indefinitely, what FW should I use? Im gonna buy a preflashed console.

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Post by: Zod5000 on December 22, 2009, 01:06:00 AM

QUOTE(daman22 @ Dec 21 2009, 09:51 AM)

since LT is on hodl indefinitely, what FW should I use? Im gonna buy a preflashed console.

its a crapshoot.. I don't think anyones shown any concrete evidence of what is causing the ban. Even going back to the non stealth version of 1.4 or 1.4.1 is probably a theory.

if you read some of these threads, you'll realize no one really knows whats up, and the fact the new firmware has been put on hold, suggests something complicated?

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Post by: 360beast on December 22, 2009, 02:53:00 PM

QUOTE(Zod5000 @ Dec 22 2009, 03:06 AM)

maybe one of the tes 360s got banned? sometthing has to be up

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Post by: sofa king dumb on December 28, 2009, 10:43:00 PM

for those not banned, what dl dvd+/-R have you used?

for me, nothing but verbatim -R and maybe a few verbatim+R's but that was at least a year ago and possibly just on my old 360

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Post by: redsoxrule on December 29, 2009, 12:59:00 PM

At this point I'm not banned....running 1.61 IX on Benq....almost exclusive backups with Verbatim media. Few points of info...NOT gold member, just running updates and stuff...once was Gold member many months ago...even with gold have NEVER played multi player....so far not banned....hope this helps. Also have been running talismoon 12v fans since day one....

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Post by: lcollier93 on December 29, 2009, 01:45:00 PM

QUOTE(sofa king dumb @ Dec 28 2009, 11:43 PM)

for those not banned, what dl dvd+/-R have you used?

for me, nothing but verbatim -R and maybe a few verbatim+R's but that was at least a year ago and possibly just on my old 360

on all my current backups I have been using memorex -R's. I was tired of buying verbatims. haha.

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Post by: 360beast on February 02, 2020, 04:21:00 PM

if i connect to live only for updates for liek madden and nba, but play backups offline, whats change i banned

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Post by: Zod5000 on December 30, 2009, 11:02:00 PM

QUOTE(360beast @ Dec 30 2009, 04:21 PM)

if i connect to live only for updates for liek madden and nba, but play backups offline, whats change i banned

strong.. people don't get that its not just playing on live where they can check the disk to see if its a backup.

any time your connected to live and a disc is in the tray you exposed. You could just be surfing around the dashboard and what not, and they could read the disc.

the only way (As far as we know) is to keep backups offline completely.. ie never connect to live while anything is in the drive.

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Post by: BigSteel on February 03, 2020, 05:45:00 PM

For what it's worth, I just had a customer come to me who has a BenQ with and was running the nonstealth 1.4 frimware since it came out. He has not been banned. I was really surprised to hear this.

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Post by: 360beast on February 04, 2020, 03:26:00 PM

QUOTE(lcollier93 @ Dec 29 2009, 03:45 PM)

on all my current backups I have been using memorex -R's. I was tired of buying verbatims. haha.

thought i read +r was needed

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Post by: xxxbobsta on January 03, 2010, 10:09:00 PM

QUOTE(xxxbobsta @ Dec 12 2009, 07:34 PM)

Just an update, I'm still on live.

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Post by: MSsucksgonnabuyaPS3 on January 12, 2010, 11:43:00 PM

QUOTE(xxxbobsta @ Jan 3 2010, 09:09 PM)

Just an update, I'm still on live.

BULLSHIT

low post count, it could be Microsoft for all we know temping everyone to go online so they get banned

come on people, 1 MILLION BANNED...

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Post by: weeman007 on January 13, 2010, 09:50:00 AM

QUOTE(UnnA^ @ Jan 13 2010, 03:43 AM)

There is an easy way to settle all this, request a repair on your console. If you are able to get a repair done on it then your safe. There is no way in fucking hell MS is going to start repairing consoles that have supposedly been "flagged" for banning. Think about it logically for fucks sake, why would they go and repair 10,000 consoles that are broken when they have allegedly (i call bullshit) been "flagged" for banning. It is the most retarded thing i have heard in a long time. Yeah, fix a fuck load of consoles that have broken there TOS only to ban them a month later, god your retarded. It is as simple as this......

If your console is right now flashed to stock and you can request a repair on your console then you are completely safe.

Too be true i think everybody that played since september october has been flagged lol. I have played 5 times on live in september and october and i called xbox.com they said im banned. The last dasboard i had installed was the one before the WPA2 update

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Post by: high five on January 14, 2010, 02:05:00 PM

QUOTE(MSsucksgonnabuyaPS3 @ Jan 13 2010, 07:43 AM)

BULLSHIT

low post count, it could be Microsoft for all we know temping everyone to go online so they get banned

come on people, 1 MILLION BANNED...

youre retarded

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Post by: Zod5000 on January 15, 2010, 07:37:00 PM

QUOTE(Meccs @ Jan 15 2010, 04:27 PM)

Wow! I tought I was banned... didn't go online since the ban wave. I had the guts to check today and not banned!

I bought a PS3 because I thought I was banned... rofl! Still don't regret it!

Is there a chance if I flash to the legal FW I don't get banned in the future?

always chance.. never a guarantee

I don't think we've ever gotten enough details on what microsoft used to do all the bans. So no one really knows how they did it yet.. so no certainty on being safe, or whether or not they logged your data at some point, and then didn't ban, or are still waiting.

For me.. I don't play online.. so backups/originals were never used on live. I've play offline, and never have discs in the tray when connect to live. I'm not banned. My personal feeling is what ever they did detect required a disc to be in the drive when connected to live (might not have mattered if it was an orig or backup, but a disc had to be there). It's the only explanation as to why I never got banned. other then being lucky).

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Post by: Loomies on January 16, 2010, 02:28:00 PM

Hey guys/gals. Im about to receive an unbanned Xbox with 1.61 firmware and already have a non-modded 360. Do I get a memory card and make a profile on the non-modded 360 and recover my gamertag. After that, I start playing games on my unbanned modded 360 for achievements and transfer it back to the non-modded one? Thanks for reading

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Post by: MSsucksgonnabuyaPS3 on January 16, 2010, 05:56:00 PM

QUOTE(high five @ Jan 14 2010, 01:05 PM)

youre retarded

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33866696

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Post by: 360beast on January 16, 2010, 06:14:00 PM

QUOTE(MSsucksgonnabuyaPS3 @ Jan 16 2010, 07:56 PM)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33866696

your point fucktard? i said youre retarded, cause u call BS on a person who said he isnt banned... and said he could even be MS tempting us to go online. you are a dumbass, everyone here knows about the huge banwave...

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Post by: MSsucksgonnabuyaPS3 on January 17, 2010, 01:17:00 AM

QUOTE(360beast @ Jan 16 2010, 05:14 PM)

anyone who goes online with anyone firmware right now will get banned

people with low post aka ANYONE can come on here and say Hey i'm not banned which is basically a signal to people to try online again, Its not a conspiracy theory when one of the developers showed up in 360banned on efnet or #fw ....can't remember his name now but he did put on his twitter that people should leave him alone and he jumped on IRC to tell people the same thing

the only firmware i've looked into that won't get you banned is the 1.41 thats on the dvdrom forum here

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Post by: Meccs on January 17, 2010, 02:20:00 AM

Not true, I'm not banned... yet!

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Post by: MSsucksgonnabuyaPS3 on January 17, 2010, 02:46:00 AM

QUOTE(Meccs @ Jan 17 2010, 01:20 AM)

Not true, I'm not banned... yet!

have you played backups online?

What firmware are you using? and anyone can say anything on the interwebs so post a picture or you're a lier

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Post by: Chancer on January 17, 2010, 04:13:00 AM

QUOTE(high five @ Jan 14 2010, 09:05 PM)

youre retarded

QUOTE(360beast @ Jan 17 2010, 01:14 AM)

your point fucktard? i said youre retarded, cause u call BS on a person who said he isnt banned... and said he could even be MS tempting us to go online. you are a dumbass, everyone here knows about the huge banwave...

Not too bright really. You just tripped yourself up as having multiple accounts, you also have 5 warns as 360 beast. Both are shutdown as will be all your new ones

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Post by: Meccs on January 17, 2010, 11:35:00 AM

QUOTE(MSsucksgonnabuyaPS3 @ Jan 17 2010, 10:46 AM)

have you played backups online?

What firmware are you using? and anyone can say anything on the interwebs so post a picture or you're a lier

Yes. Survived the wave in 2008 with iXtreme 1.4 and in 2009 with 1.6. Same console.
Microsoft repaired the console in August 2009 though. They replaced the board and changed the DVD key (dunno why) but they didn't exchange the drive itself.

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Post by: jupiterx on January 17, 2010, 02:06:00 PM

QUOTE(me2611 @ Jan 17 2010, 02:50 PM)

Not banned. BenQ 1.41 Non Stealth 12x Backups played both Online and Off. All games 100% verify and SplitVid enabled. No backups played before release.

So far so good. (touches wood)

EDIT*
Manufacturer's date of the box: 2008
DVD Drive: BenQ Ixtreme 1.4 Non Stealth 12x Rev2/Rev4
firmware spoofed?: Yes - BenQ spoofed as LiteOn.
Pirate anything?:(simple yes or no, no details!) no, just backups.
Newest game: Bayonetta/Darksiders
Amount of burned games played since the first modded: 10-15
Comments about your history: Flashed a few months ago. Play all backups single or multi signed into XBL
Belief on banning: Stealth Checks/SplitVid

Had another box running 1.51 then 1.6/1.61 BenQ - Used for around 18months. Pulled the ethernet back in novemeber when the banwave was hitting hard. Checked online repair/rang m$ for repair both said console had been Banned tampered with, that was around december.

Peace Out

Damn man, I'm soo tempted go back online.

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Post by: Meccs on January 17, 2010, 06:13:00 PM

QUOTE(unknownUzer @ Nov 26 2009, 11:15 AM)

** Never had a backup in my dvd drive while on XBL***
All games installed to Hard Drive so disc barely even runs to start game...
Havent been on XBOX Live LESS THAN 8 TO 10 HRS A DAY...

So this means you only play originals online or you connect to live after the game loaded from the backup?

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Post by: Meccs on January 18, 2010, 01:27:00 PM

I know it might be just a theory from unknownUzer but it would be interesting to know if the disc sets the flag while disconnected from live or only when you are connected. Judging from his test I think it sets the flag only while connected to live which is strange I think... so it must be something on the disc that checks your drive and reports it to MS every time you start a game. On the other hand he said MW2 started as soon as he connected to live which doesn't make sense IMHO.

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Post by: burpy on January 20, 2010, 04:34:00 AM

1.61 for a week and been play MW2 all week, not banned yet, Was unfortunate and flashed 360 the day of the ban wave, didn't go online with it till last week. Also MW2 isn't SplitDvd either which new LT requires for non banning/flagging

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Post by: Loomies on January 20, 2010, 08:51:00 AM

QUOTE(burpy @ Jan 20 2010, 05:34 AM)

yeah i got a jasper like 2 weeks ago and flashed it with 1.61. i just went online yesterday on xbox live and not ban. i had a xenon 1.4 that was ban on the ban wave so crossing my fingers

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Post by: Zod5000 on January 20, 2010, 07:07:00 PM

maybe the stopped the banwave? so anyone playing with a 1.6 or 1.6.1 might still get there info flagged, but not banned til the next banwave?

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Post by: JesseWHHS on January 21, 2010, 07:45:00 PM

Well I myself have a banned 360. But a buddy that got his 360 modded the same time I did came over the other day. We hooked his 360 and played halo for a few hours!

I know he doesn't play much, the only burned game he has put in his 360 is Afro Samurai and that as far as I know, doesn't connect to XBL.

He only plays Halo 3 off of a retail copy. And doesn't play much at all. Maybe once or twice every few months. So I'm sure he was on Live playing Halo the same time I was using backed up media. I assume even with his limited play time, this means they can't detect the firmware, only the backed up media.

Thought I would share incase it might interest or help someone.

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Post by: daman22 on January 21, 2010, 09:41:00 PM

so no insta bans are goinf on now? would it be safe to update rosters and stuff on 1.41 ns

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Post by: JesseWHHS on January 21, 2010, 10:26:00 PM

I'd be willing to bet that nobody would say its safe to go online for anything if your modded.

This xbox 360 from my buddy gets online no problem and its modded with 1.51. Forgot the drive.

I think its gonna be "Try at your own risk"

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Post by: daman22 on January 22, 2010, 08:32:00 AM

QUOTE(JesseWHHS @ Jan 22 2010, 12:26 AM)

i know its risk, but i mean im not likely to get instabanned am i? everyoen here says they arent banned with 1.4/1.41 ns

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Post by: mickey797 on February 03, 2020, 05:09:00 PM

Just wanted to update:

I have the RED (Resident Evil) XBOX 360 Elite (Lite-On) bought just around the time they were launched; almost release day for the RED Elite's. Flashed it to iXtreme 1.51 after purchase.

Just flashed it to iXtreme LT and connected to XBOX Live. Not Banned.

I do not play online; don't have a GOLD membership; Only use Live Silver account to post achievements, download trailers & demos. NEVER connected to XBOX Live with any disc in tray (Original or Backup).

I know a lot of 1.51 who got banned; I hardly know any 1.51 who did go online and didn't get banned; So I'm not sure why I didn't get banned. Perhaps it's because I never put a disc in tray while connected to Live ... although I think there are people who got banned who never put a disc in tray while connected.

Not sure. Just thought I'd post here.

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Post by: Swarrior216 on February 08, 2010, 01:46:00 PM

I have not been on LIVE since August. I totally missed all the banning. It's been 6 months since I have been online with my 360. My drive is flashed (I dont know the version or what drive it is). I'm wanting to go back online with it. But I don't want to get banned. I should point out that it has not been updated since august.

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Post by: Zod5000 on February 08, 2010, 09:41:00 PM

QUOTE(mickey797 @ Jan 25 2010, 05:09 PM)

Pretty much the same thing here. I even upgrade from 1.6 to 1.6.1 during the banwave, and never got banned. I use live to grab DLC and thats about it.. never have a disc in the drive tray when doing so. Makes me pretty confident, that ban techniques still require discs to be in the drive (could be original or a backup), but they still test drive responses to discs. So if you're a single player offline kind of person, you probably avoided the banwave.

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Post by: mickey797 on February 09, 2010, 10:45:00 AM

QUOTE(Zod5000 @ Feb 9 2010, 05:41 AM)

You summed it up: "Single Player / Offline" ... That's exactly what I think. Someone here on this board, quite a while back, told me never to connect to XBOX Live with any disc in tray (Backup or Original) ... and I have followed that like a religion. While there is no proof to support this theory ... I still do believe that the ban technique does require a disc to be in tray at some point in time while connected to Live.

I guess the easiest way to disprove this theory of ours would be for someone to come up & claim they never connected to Live with a disc in tray, and got banned!! Although that would open the gate to once again ... Why did you or I didn't get banned?

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