Post by: Degenerat3 on November 04, 2009, 08:49:00 PM
Error
This service is temporarily unavailable. Please try back again later.
and the url
http://support.xbox.com/support/en/us/nxe/...s.aspx?id=54420
So not sure if its banned yet but if people who have confirmed banned can go check what they get that.
Going to the repair page for my unmodded console still goes through.
This might help people who don't know whether they are banned yet and risk corrupting their hard drives.
QUOTE(nfidel @ Nov 5 2009, 07:05 AM) 
One possible method of determining if your console is banned WITHOUT going on live is to try to initiate a repair thru the Xbox.com support site. If your console is banned, you will be able to register it, but if you start a repair order for RROD etc., you will immediately get a message that the request could not be completed and you need to contact a support person. During the Crackdown ban wave one of my boxes got hit, and when I attempted to get it repaired a few months later I actually got a URL back on the web site that said something like "console=ban". They have stopped being so explicit recently but your service request will still fail 100% if the console is banned.
I have not tested this on a console that has only been flagged for banning by the Live server but not banned on the console level, but I think it most likely will fail to let you get any service info from the web site.
Post by: SmotPoker on November 04, 2009, 09:07:00 PM
Post by: vietnamazing on November 04, 2009, 11:10:00 PM
Post by: Beetlebug on November 04, 2009, 11:22:00 PM
And does this work for europeans too?
Post by: Degenerat3 on November 04, 2009, 11:24:00 PM
Post by: Cybore on November 05, 2009, 12:00:00 AM
Post by: magusdraco on November 05, 2009, 12:00:00 AM
I have two 360s on my list of stuff. One works (non modded) the other doesn't (modded).
Modded one was connected to live earlier today and wasn't banned.
Haven't connected back to live yet but...well....now I'm not going to connect it back to live.
Post by: Cybore on November 05, 2009, 12:04:00 AM
QUOTE(magusdraco @ Nov 5 2009, 08:00 AM) 
Awww hell.
I have two 360s on my list of stuff. One works (non modded) the other doesn't (modded).
Modded one was connected to live earlier today and wasn't banned.
Haven't connected back to live yet but...well....now I'm not going to connect it back to live.
so for the good xbox you don't get the
"Error This service is temporarily unavailable. Please try back again later." message while for the modded one you do?
good thing we found out about this trick now, otherwise we might've lost the ability to install games as well.
Post by: magusdraco on November 05, 2009, 12:06:00 AM
It doesn't matter that the warranty is gone, nor that the 3 year warranty is gone too.
IT works.
The modded, that is most likely banned (not connecting it to live). Error.
Post by: Cybore on November 05, 2009, 12:10:00 AM
Post by: magusdraco on November 05, 2009, 12:12:00 AM
The first 5 all checked out perfectly (full dvd game crc check and all).
I got lazy after the game crc check started taking 80 minutes instead of 40 and didn't do that for my next 5 or so games.
Whatever. I'm glad I have a backup 360.
Post by: Degenerat3 on November 05, 2009, 12:14:00 AM
Post by: Beetlebug on November 05, 2009, 12:22:00 AM
QUOTE
Repair a Console
Repair Your Console - To start the repair process, first select the console that you want to have repaired.
If the console that you want to have repaired isn't listed below, either the console is not registered or your console is not registered to the Windows Live ID you are signed in with.
Xbox 360 Arcade System: Serial #: blanked
Console Image
Standard Warranty: Expires: 01/26/2010
View Warranty Status
Request a Repair
Repair Your Console - To start the repair process, first select the console that you want to have repaired.
If the console that you want to have repaired isn't listed below, either the console is not registered or your console is not registered to the Windows Live ID you are signed in with.
Xbox 360 Arcade System: Serial #: blanked
Console Image
Standard Warranty: Expires: 01/26/2010
View Warranty Status
Request a Repair
Means I'm not banned after all? This check doesn't really work? Or?
This post has been edited by Beetlebug: Nov 5 2009, 08:23 AM
Post by: magusdraco on November 05, 2009, 12:25:00 AM
So....I'm pretty sure mine is banned. Especially since the other one DOES work with the repair stuff.
Post by: Cybore on November 05, 2009, 12:26:00 AM
Post by: Degenerat3 on November 05, 2009, 12:26:00 AM
If you do get an error better be safe and not connect to live.
Post by: bennybullfrog on November 05, 2009, 12:49:00 AM
I have 2 other consoles registered to my account, no idea if they are banned or not but the repair page loads fine for them.
Post by: boonrider on November 05, 2009, 12:51:00 AM
I get the
"Error
This service is temporarily unavailable. Please try back again later. "
Message, but i'm not sure if this is because i'm not in the US.
To check it for my country (NZ) I seem to need to use http://service.xbox.com.
For those in which this method seems to work, can you see if you get the same results on http://service.xbox.com ?
Thanks!
Post by: magusdraco on November 05, 2009, 12:51:00 AM
Maybe it's not full proof. Either way uh...I'll just hold off on connecting to live.
Did anyone try testing the xbox live network settings to see if they were banned...and then got banned by doing that?
'cause that could be another way to check this stuff without getting banned.
Post by: anem8or on November 05, 2009, 01:04:00 AM
Post by: solesten on November 05, 2009, 01:05:00 AM
Post by: vietnamazing on November 05, 2009, 01:11:00 AM
QUOTE(solesten @ Nov 5 2009, 12:05 AM)
well i dont think it really matters if you check online..if u get an error msg then ur banned.. i dont think that by not going onlive will help anything. cus ur console is alrdy marked as "modded" so there no escaping it...
The point would be to check if the online connectivity method would work to safely detect ban status (since if you're banned you're guaranteed to get an error code) since it's not 100% confirmed if this repair status method works, although it does seem highly likely to be legit.
Post by: ShineGet on November 05, 2009, 01:11:00 AM
Post by: Degenerat3 on November 05, 2009, 01:16:00 AM
Post by: majinsoftware on November 05, 2009, 02:07:00 AM
Post by: Cybore on November 05, 2009, 02:13:00 AM
Post by: majinsoftware on November 05, 2009, 02:51:00 AM
Its this method (different pin outs for other xbox revisions but they are on the net somewhere)
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=690493
You dont want to flash xell tho. You just want to read your nand to your computer.
Then write it back to the xbox if you are banned so you can keep your hdd install feature.
Post by: ImRickJamesB1tch on November 05, 2009, 04:46:00 AM
Not gonna connect to xboxlive in case it corrupts the install games to harddrive option.
Post by: izaven715 on November 05, 2009, 05:44:00 AM
I don't want to click submit and it go through, is there a 2nd confirmation after you click submit asking to like really process it or anything?
Post by: jaded_uk on November 05, 2009, 05:55:00 AM
I have tried this method of registering for repair, my xbox is still under warranty (it still says active on the website) and it allows me to print off a ups label to return. Not sure if this means I haven't been banned? I do not seem to get any error at all...
Has anyone who is still in warranty and has been banned tried this method? Will it still let you send it for repair?
Post by: izaven715 on November 05, 2009, 06:03:00 AM
QUOTE(jaded_uk @ Nov 5 2009, 01:55 PM)
Not connected to live yet, trying to figure out if I have been banned, there seem to be more people in the uk posting to say they have been banned than haven't, so don't like my chances very much.
I have tried this method of registering for repair, my xbox is still under warranty (it still says active on the website) and it allows me to print off a ups label to return. Not sure if this means I haven't been banned? I do not seem to get any error at all...
Has anyone who is still in warranty and has been banned tried this method? Will it still let you send it for repair?
Did you follow all the steps like select problem: 3 flashing rings, added description, shipping method, and then clicked submit ?
Post by: jaded_uk on November 05, 2009, 06:11:00 AM
QUOTE(izaven715 @ Nov 5 2009, 01:03 PM)
Did you follow all the steps like select problem: 3 flashing rings, added description, shipping method, and then clicked submit ?
Yes, just picked some random shit and pressed submit. seemed to work okay, they have emailed me a link to print an address label to send it back.
Post by: jamiehardman on November 05, 2009, 06:20:00 AM
QUOTE(jaded_uk @ Nov 5 2009, 12:55 PM)
Not connected to live yet, trying to figure out if I have been banned, there seem to be more people in the uk posting to say they have been banned than haven't, so don't like my chances very much.
I wouldn't say there are more people banned than who aren't in the UK. The only people posting are the one's who are signed up here and care to share their information. I know over 15 people who are still playing xbox live with modified consoles who live in the UK.
Post by: TemperTantrum on November 05, 2009, 06:32:00 AM
From what I remember, if you do a network test and you are banned, it would fail the last LIVE test and throw up error codes which would let you know. Big question as above though, is if this would then disable HD functions as it does if you were to try and sign in normally.
Post by: jaded_uk on November 05, 2009, 06:32:00 AM
QUOTE(jamiehardman @ Nov 5 2009, 01:20 PM)
I wouldn't say there are more people banned than who aren't in the UK. The only people posting are the one's who are signed up here and care to share their information. I know over 15 people who are still playing xbox live with modified consoles who live in the UK.
I didn't say more people had been banned than not, - I'm sure theres not. I said that it appears more people are posting if they are banned than aren't. I'm sure there are plenty who escaped it , and im sure there are even more who are unaware banning is even taking place unless they keep track on forums etc.
It just made me less confident to connect after seeing all the posts. I might give it a go when i get home from work..
Post by: izaven715 on November 05, 2009, 06:32:00 AM
QUOTE(jamiehardman @ Nov 5 2009, 02:20 PM)
I wouldn't say there are more people banned than who aren't in the UK. The only people posting are the one's who are signed up here and care to share their information. I know over 15 people who are still playing xbox live with modified consoles who live in the UK.
Yea usually people whose stuff works fine don't bother coming here as much as people are who bannd
Post by: sonic2120 on November 05, 2009, 07:23:00 AM
Post by: TheBiGW on November 05, 2009, 07:51:00 AM
Post by: ImRickJamesB1tch on November 05, 2009, 08:15:00 AM
Post by: ImRickJamesB1tch on November 05, 2009, 09:03:00 AM
Post by: bobbler on November 05, 2009, 09:17:00 AM
QUOTE(ImRickJamesB1tch @ Nov 5 2009, 04:15 PM)
So I decided to man up and check if I was banned for sure. So I unplugged my harddrive and went to test Xboxlive connection. It connected then disconnect and prompt'd me to install some update! Now I'm thinking this is the update the disables the harddrive install feature? If not what is this update? I read something earlier today about Halo something with regards to this update?
Not that, I turned my 360 on for the first time in a few weeks last night and got that update (just upgraded to 1.61). Still installed a couple of games afterwards with no issues and played them earlier today.
Post by: stranglerdave on November 05, 2009, 09:27:00 AM
QUOTE(TemperTantrum @ Nov 5 2009, 02:32 PM)
I take it no one has yet confirmed if you lose HDD functions by testing for a ban via network connection test?
From what I remember, if you do a network test and you are banned, it would fail the last LIVE test and throw up error codes which would let you know. Big question as above though, is if this would then disable HD functions as it does if you were to try and sign in normally.
Can someone behave to this?
Post by: magusdraco on November 05, 2009, 10:10:00 AM
QUOTE(stranglerdave @ Nov 5 2009, 11:27 AM)
Can someone behave to this?
*tests it with his "supposedly banned but not confirmed banned 360"*
"Please download this update." No memory cards or hdd or whatever are hooked into the 360
...ahuh....
Not sure what that'll mean.
This post has been edited by magusdraco: Nov 5 2009, 06:10 PM
Post by: Beetlebug on November 05, 2009, 10:19:00 AM
QUOTE(magusdraco @ Nov 5 2009, 06:10 PM)
*tests it with his "supposedly banned but not confirmed banned 360"*
"Please download this update." No memory cards or hdd or whatever are hooked into the 360
...ahuh....
Not sure what that'll mean.
That should mean it's not banned shouldn't it? If banned you won't even get asked to update. Just an immediate banned message.
Post by: magusdraco on November 05, 2009, 10:25:00 AM
Eh fuck it. *takes the plunge* No use being scared. Banned I'm banned. Not banned, I'm not banned.
And.
I'm not banned.
You know. If I remember right this 360 didn't work on the repair page back when I had to get the RRoD done way back when anyway. (a year ago) I had to call the customer support guys instead.
I thought the place was just down or something.
This post has been edited by magusdraco: Nov 5 2009, 06:25 PM
Post by: Beetlebug on November 05, 2009, 10:34:00 AM
QUOTE(magusdraco @ Nov 5 2009, 06:25 PM)
Should. Unless the "update" is a ban.
Eh fuck it. *takes the plunge* No use being scared. Banned I'm banned. Not banned, I'm not banned.
And.
I'm not banned.
You know. If I remember right this 360 didn't work on the repair page back when I had to get the RRoD done way back when anyway. (a year ago) I had to call the customer support guys instead.
I thought the place was just down or something.
That's good.
Seems this repair check doesn't tell much if banned or not.
Hopefully somebody comes up with another solution.
Post by: vietnamazing on November 05, 2009, 10:46:00 AM
Post by: izaven715 on November 05, 2009, 10:53:00 AM
QUOTE(vietnamazing @ Nov 5 2009, 06:46 PM)
Wouldn't the safest bet be to call customer service regarding the repair and have them confirm for you whether or not your console is banned by making a repair request with them?
Yea but it's not the most efficient way. Are you going to call them every time you want to play your Xbox?
Post by: vietnamazing on February 03, 2020, 10:58:00 AM
Post by: mike2732 on November 05, 2009, 11:28:00 AM
3. Check the returned URL. If it contains "Errors.aspx?id=54420" console is banned.
If you get a code other then 54420, then you probably are not banned.
Post by: magusdraco on November 05, 2009, 11:48:00 AM
QUOTE(mike2732 @ Nov 5 2009, 01:28 PM)
Are you guys doing the last step:
3. Check the returned URL. If it contains "Errors.aspx?id=54420" console is banned.
If you get a code other then 54420, then you probably are not banned.
I have that code.
I can connect to live.
Now whether or not that will change sometime between now and the end of the month.
...well...
we'll cross that road (and mourn the loss of hdd usage on the modded 360) when we come to it.
Post by: vietnamazing on February 03, 2020, 11:50:00 AM
Post by: stranglerdave on February 03, 2020, 12:06:00 PM
Post by: Degenerat3 on November 05, 2009, 05:02:00 PM
Post by: Graywulf on November 05, 2009, 06:08:00 PM
Post by: funksoulbrother on November 05, 2009, 06:46:00 PM
QUOTE(TemperTantrum @ Nov 5 2009, 01:32 PM)
I take it no one has yet confirmed if you lose HDD functions by testing for a ban via network connection test?
From what I remember, if you do a network test and you are banned, it would fail the last LIVE test and throw up error codes which would let you know. Big question as above though, is if this would then disable HD functions as it does if you were to try and sign in normally.
Does anyone have any more info on this? If you can see that you're banned via a connection test without it triggering the hard drive install block, that would be perfect. I doubt MS would have left that loophole open though, especially as they probably have people reading forums like this and I've seen it mentioned on several, lol, but it would be good if anyone could confirm/deny for sure.
Post by: brenerrr on November 06, 2009, 02:15:00 PM
QUOTE(funksoulbrother @ Nov 5 2009, 10:46 PM)
Does anyone have any more info on this? If you can see that you're banned via a connection test without it triggering the hard drive install block, that would be perfect. I doubt MS would have left that loophole open though, especially as they probably have people reading forums like this and I've seen it mentioned on several, lol, but it would be good if anyone could confirm/deny for sure.
That's exactly what i was thinking .
Can someone banned do the test and see if the received code is the one posted here ? I did today , and the code was another one , but i didn't connect to xbox live to confirm if i was banned or not
Post by: blizzard122189 on November 06, 2009, 02:16:00 PM
Best idea at this point is to unplug, get another 360 for Xbox Live, and play only SP games on the modded box, then switch the HDD to the legit box for XBL.
Post by: stranglerdave on November 06, 2009, 02:31:00 PM
But is that true?
Post by: Beetlebug on November 06, 2009, 04:34:00 PM
QUOTE(blizzard122189 @ Nov 6 2009, 10:16 PM)
Best idea at this point is to unplug, get another 360 for Xbox Live, and play only SP games on the modded box, then switch the HDD to the legit box for XBL.
I'm doing this. Although are you sure it's safe to use the old harddrive on the new machine? I was planning to start fresh with an elite 120gb, but if I can use my old harddrive I'll buy an arcade instead.
Post by: blizzard122189 on November 06, 2009, 04:45:00 PM
Post by: 3-ranger on November 06, 2009, 04:46:00 PM
QUOTE(Beetlebug @ Nov 7 2009, 12:34 AM)
I'm doing this. Although are you sure it's safe to use the old harddrive on the new machine? I was planning to start fresh with an elite 120gb, but if I can use my old harddrive I'll buy an arcade instead.
One Question...
Could i use my 250 GB HD with the Arcade Version?
I Thought the Arcade Version is not able to be plugged with a HD.thx
Post by: brenerrr on November 06, 2009, 04:52:00 PM
And the connectivity test is dangerous , a guy from a forum did that and got banned .
Post by: Beetlebug on November 06, 2009, 05:28:00 PM
QUOTE(blizzard122189 @ Nov 7 2009, 12:45 AM)
It is safe to use the old HDD as long as your old machine has not received the ban message yet. Even if it is banned, as long as you have not connected to actually get the message and the NAND flag you are all good. If you connect then you are screwed, and you have to get a new modded machine if you want to switch your profile back and forth.
Sounds good. I'll get a new arcade 360 then and just use my current HDD between them. My current non-banned 360 (but probably banned if I try to sign in) will forever be offline from now on.
QUOTE(3-ranger @ Nov 7 2009, 12:46 AM)
One Question...
Could i use my 250 GB HD with the Arcade Version?
I Thought the Arcade Version is not able to be plugged with a HD.thx
Of course. All 360's can use harddrives.
Post by: 3-ranger on November 06, 2009, 05:34:00 PM
QUOTE(Beetlebug @ Nov 7 2009, 01:28 AM)
Sounds good. I'll get a new arcade 360 then and just use my current HDD between them. My current non-banned 360 (but probably banned if I try to sign in) will forever be offline from now on.
Of course. All 360's can use harddrives.
thx.
I think about to kept the modded and still unbanned Super Elite 250 GB forever Offline. Console is only 1 week old but i wont to try it online. This i will use for offline and buy a Arcade for Online Gaming.
If the unbanned is still not detected, should a back-flash to the original save the console from the ban? Could it be?
Post by: magusdraco on November 06, 2009, 06:30:00 PM
...unless that original arcade had a hdd slot anyway.
Post by: m4sterchi3f on November 06, 2009, 07:32:00 PM
Post by: majinsoftware on November 06, 2009, 07:44:00 PM
I think there website has just gone poo.
Post by: blizzard122189 on November 06, 2009, 07:59:00 PM
After you get a ban message now the Xbox is basically useless.
Post by: Derfuhrer on November 06, 2009, 08:12:00 PM
A more accurate test can be found here Xbox Live Ban Test
Post by: majinsoftware on November 06, 2009, 08:17:00 PM
So you still end up losing all the same things as if you connected when signed in to a profile.
Post by: royal88 on November 06, 2009, 08:51:00 PM
QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Nov 6 2009, 10:17 PM)
Yeah but even doing the connection test and if it comes up your banned it will trigger the disable hdd flag.
So you still end up losing all the same things as if you connected when signed in to a profile.
So by cancelling the request to install the update (as described in the steps) you aren't negating the flag that nukes your HDD functionality? I figured that process, and thus the point of the tutorial, was to avoid all that.
As for me, I initiated a repair on my console 2 days ago which worked fine and was not banned at the time (went to pull down and price etc) but when trying yesterday I get the "Service unavailable - id=54420" message. I try the same thing on a virgin arcade also under my login and voila goes right through to pull-down and price.
Here's what I'm speculating (PURE speculation):
The system they use for registering, initiating repairs, changing your console is all an 'app'. Webserver talks to --> app server --> makes call to DB issuing a select statement of some kind that returns an unknown value because your console_status flag has been flipped to whatever they use to designate a ban. The 'app' has no idea how to interpret this value. If the active status is something it recognizes it knows how to proceed but in the case of a banned console it simply defers to "service unavailable". This is one of those "overlooked" items as the team that supports the xbox.com application infrastructure could be completely different than the ban hammer folks. It would have made sense for them to patch this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
It saved my HD and much aggravation, so for that I'm thankful.
Post by: 3-ranger on November 07, 2009, 03:09:00 AM
I tested it now and deny the update during the/after the test.
My Code is
Z: 8015-1002
I will not connect to xbox live and wait for a solution.
Post by: Neo_JL on November 07, 2009, 11:49:00 AM
fill the information and my SN..
then this screen will appear..
(IMG:http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/393/bannedf.jpg)
This is mine..
Is this mean i've been banned?
I don't wanted to check it with console, cause im afraid my hdd get banned too..
This the green one, as u can see the expired date not end yet..
(IMG:http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5740/survived.jpg)
Post by: Zod5000 on November 07, 2009, 01:18:00 PM
So if its telling you to do an update, I'm guessing your not banned. That was my case yesterday.
Post by: piojo on November 07, 2009, 02:00:00 PM
QUOTE(mike2732 @ Nov 5 2009, 08:28 PM)
Are you guys doing the last step:
3. Check the returned URL. If it contains "Errors.aspx?id=54420" console is banned.
If you get a code other then 54420, then you probably are not banned.
try to different locale, like UK or Australia.
I also tried in us at first and got "Errors.aspx?id=54420".
only at au it worked for me.
another thing is, someone posted that he got the message:
"The service order did not pass the validation check because of a product flag or another repair order already exists for the serial number"
but he was afraid to connect the xbox, because of the h.d blocking.
p.s - u may have to change your contact info and write the same as the locale you chose
Post by: iispyderii on November 07, 2009, 06:41:00 PM
I tried to check my Z code and it said i was banned without even connecting to live and I got banned!
I didn't have my HDD attached so I will transfer all my my important gamesaves to my HDD and play through my memory cards.
I feel stupid to not read all of the posts before doing that stupid 'safe check' from the settings page.
Post by: magusdraco on November 07, 2009, 06:49:00 PM
QUOTE(iispyderii @ Nov 7 2009, 08:41 PM)
Guys, DO NOT!!! I REPEAT! DO **NOT*** DO THE 'SAFE CHECK' on the xbox live settings on your console!!!
I tried to check my Z code and it said i was banned without even connecting to live and I got banned!
I didn't have my HDD attached so I will transfer all my my important gamesaves to my HDD and play through my memory cards.
I feel stupid to not read all of the posts before doing that stupid 'safe check' from the settings page.
Yeah someone on one of the other posts already found out that the Z check bans you anyway.
The repair center check is "iffy" People get the error but aren't banned, others are.
So who knows...
Post by: piojo on November 08, 2009, 02:27:00 AM
QUOTE(magusdraco @ Nov 8 2009, 03:49 AM)
Yeah someone on one of the other posts already found out that the Z check bans you anyway.
The repair center check is "iffy" People get the error but aren't banned, others are.
So who knows...
which error?
as I posted earlier, there two errors ppl got these far:
1) the "Service unavaliable...." with te url ending with 544 or something...
2) "The service order did not pass the validation check because of a product flag or another repair order already exists for the serial number"
if you got #1, you need to try different locale (located in the top of the screen in xbox.com). try united kingdom or Australia.
Post by: 3-ranger on November 08, 2009, 04:06:00 AM
QUOTE(iispyderii @ Nov 8 2009, 02:41 AM)
Guys, DO NOT!!! I REPEAT! DO **NOT*** DO THE 'SAFE CHECK' on the xbox live settings on your console!!!
I tried to check my Z code and it said i was banned without even connecting to live and I got banned!
I didn't have my HDD attached so I will transfer all my my important gamesaves to my HDD and play through my memory cards.
I feel stupid to not read all of the posts before doing that stupid 'safe check' from the settings page.
I do the the test also but my HDD Function is still ok. Do you have accept the update after the test? i didnt.
Perhpas my console is still no flagged, i dont know.
Post by: kalurx on November 08, 2009, 04:40:00 AM
QUOTE(3-ranger @ Nov 8 2009, 11:06 AM)
I do the the test also but my HDD Function is still ok. Do you have accept the update after the test? i didnt.
Perhpas my console is still no flagged, i dont know.
That's exactly what happens to me. I didn't accept the update and I'm afraid of connecting to Xbox Live because of the HDD function so I'm not sure if I'm banned or not :/
Post by: Vampiro2000 on November 08, 2009, 05:26:00 AM
QUOTE(3-ranger @ Nov 8 2009, 12:06 PM)
I do the the test also but my HDD Function is still ok. Do you have accept the update after the test? i didnt.
Perhpas my console is still no flagged, i dont know.
What was th result of the test? Did it gave you Z ****-190D? Is your HDD still fully fuctional?
Regards
Vampiro2000
Post by: 3-ranger on November 08, 2009, 05:33:00 AM
Z: 8015-1002
Post by: Vampiro2000 on November 08, 2009, 05:37:00 AM
QUOTE(3-ranger @ Nov 8 2009, 01:33 PM)
i get
Z: 8015-1002
You aren't banned! Tha ban code is 8015-190D.
Did someone get the ban code and still can use the hard drive?
Post by: Mjollnir on November 08, 2009, 05:41:00 AM
Weird, has anyone found out a better way to check? Is the Z test safe to use?
Post by: majinsoftware on November 08, 2009, 06:09:00 AM
The only thing you safe is your profile from being licence revoked and corrupted.
Post by: piojo on November 08, 2009, 07:01:00 AM
QUOTE(Mjollnir @ Nov 8 2009, 02:41 PM)
Umm I got the error code using the US portal. but using the Australia portal says my xbox warranty is fine and I can successfully request a repair.
Weird, has anyone found out a better way to check? Is the Z test safe to use?
you still need to proceed and request a repair.
Post by: Mjollnir on November 08, 2009, 07:24:00 AM
Xbox 360 Console Service - In Warranty ( Exchange ) - Add to Cart
Havent proceeded though, but I assume I am in the clear for now?
Post by: piojo on February 03, 2020, 07:52:00 AM
QUOTE(Mjollnir @ Nov 8 2009, 04:24 PM) 
Requested and passed, and took me to a page with the following:
Xbox 360 Console Service - In Warranty ( Exchange ) - Add to Cart
Havent proceeded though, but I assume I am in the clear for now?
proceed more, you need to get to the shipping stage at least (some even continued farther)
Post by: SoapyTaco on November 08, 2009, 07:57:00 AM
Post by: piojo on November 08, 2009, 08:13:00 AM
QUOTE(Degenerat3 @ Nov 5 2009, 05:49 AM)
Anyone else try going to the 360 repair page and trying to get it repaired? I got an error on my modded 360 haven't gone online on it since the UK bans today. When i try to have it repaired i get this.
Error
This service is temporarily unavailable. Please try back again later.
and the url
http://support.xbox.com/support/en/us/nxe/...s.aspx?id=54420
So not sure if its banned yet but if people who have confirmed banned can go check what they get that.
Going to the repair page for my unmodded console still goes through.
This might help people who don't know whether they are banned yet and risk corrupting their hard drives.
that doesn't mean you are banned and not banned.
try to change the locale to UK (top left of the screen in xbox.com)
Post by: elexion on November 08, 2009, 08:36:00 AM
QUOTE(Vampiro2000 @ Nov 8 2009, 01:26 PM)
What was th result of the test? Did it gave you Z ****-190D? Is your HDD still fully fuctional?
Regards
Vampiro2000
after Z=190D your hard drive option will be disabled. there is NO safe way to check if your console is banned. Error on xbox.com (US) means that your console is flagged to ban. Try to upload OFW to you drive and you will be veryfied by XBL, and your status on xbox.com will change-request new repair with no errors! User Cedru has writting about this. If you have liteon drive, try to do a spoof with the oryginal FW(other drive). maybe it will work.
This post has been edited by elexion: Nov 8 2009, 04:39 PM
Post by: anticrap1234 on November 08, 2009, 09:04:00 AM
Post by: 3-ranger on November 08, 2009, 09:28:00 AM
So your box will be flagged for a check.
1. You register it at xbox.com (like i for 3 days to check it out)
2. now they know someone has buy this box
3. Flag it for a check
4. then bann if flashed
Here someone posts that he downloads the update with taking his driv off from the box ! Could it be?
Post by: sirixxx on November 08, 2009, 10:50:00 AM
QUOTE(Mjollnir @ Nov 8 2009, 02:41 PM)
Umm I got the error code using the US portal. but using the Australia portal says my xbox warranty is fine and I can successfully request a repair.
Weird, has anyone found out a better way to check? Is the Z test safe to use?
I also get the 54420 error on the us site (but still green + warranty), but on every other site (australia, uk, germany, austria) I can order an repair without a problem (I always stoped berfore mail confimation).
Mayby the us site is just overloaded or something, or its right & other sites databases are not sync atm.
I bet we will see latest in december whats really going on, if not we still can bother the phone support.
This post has been edited by sirixxx: Nov 8 2009, 06:51 PM
Post by: piojo on November 08, 2009, 11:07:00 AM
QUOTE(elexion @ Nov 8 2009, 05:36 PM)
after Z=190D your hard drive option will be disabled. there is NO safe way to check if your console is banned. Error on xbox.com (US) means that your console is flagged to ban. Try to upload OFW to you drive and you will be veryfied by XBL, and your status on xbox.com will change-request new repair with no errors! User Cedru has writting about this. If you have liteon drive, try to do a spoof with the oryginal FW(other drive). maybe it will work.
according to the guy who published this:
(can only be seen in HD, or just read the info)
you dont loose the drive.
have somebody follow his guide exactly and lost his hard drive option?
Post by: TemperTantrum on November 08, 2009, 06:00:00 PM
I had removed my HDD everytime I done the check (Not sure why though, since its the info they send to the NAND that bans the xbox and they dont actually do anything to the HDD itself.)
Only difference you get checking and getting banned via network test compared to running a test a not yet being banned, is that you get a final message asking to accept to send info to M$ to improve the service! (Cheeky Fookers!) I obiously selected no for that! That pop up only appears after the banned console notice...
Post by: Murteira_Nabo on November 08, 2009, 07:12:00 PM
QUOTE(Neo_JL @ Nov 7 2009, 07:49 PM)
i go to xbox.com, support, register console..
fill the information and my SN..
then this screen will appear..
This is mine..
Is this mean i've been banned?
I don't wanted to check it with console, cause im afraid my hdd get banned too..
This the green one, as u can see the expired date not end yet..
Depends, was the expired 360 under the warranty? When was the date of purchase?
Post by: Murteira_Nabo on November 08, 2009, 07:25:00 PM
QUOTE
1.
Just found this on another forum.... I don't know how much truth is in it, but have a read and let me know your thoughts.
2.
3.
"I was banned last night. Benq 1.61 no wave 4, no early releases. Was on the phone with M$ for 49:27 this morning to try and persuade them that i did not have a modded console.. Only information the would release to me was that a "specific server" does the "sweeping" of modded consoles, and that the "sweeping" started on 10/30/09 and would end on 11/13/2009. This is after talking to a supervisor by the name of spike... ROFL.. I swaer this is what came from his mouth. BTW no luck getting the console ban reversed. He said he did not have "the power" to perform that action. I told him He-man has the power can we call him. He chuckled."
4.
5.
Too sum it all up, the banhammer should be unweilded as of november 13th"
http://pastebin.com/d59017739
Just found this on another forum.... I don't know how much truth is in it, but have a read and let me know your thoughts.
2.
3.
"I was banned last night. Benq 1.61 no wave 4, no early releases. Was on the phone with M$ for 49:27 this morning to try and persuade them that i did not have a modded console.. Only information the would release to me was that a "specific server" does the "sweeping" of modded consoles, and that the "sweeping" started on 10/30/09 and would end on 11/13/2009. This is after talking to a supervisor by the name of spike... ROFL.. I swaer this is what came from his mouth. BTW no luck getting the console ban reversed. He said he did not have "the power" to perform that action. I told him He-man has the power can we call him. He chuckled."
4.
5.
Too sum it all up, the banhammer should be unweilded as of november 13th"
http://pastebin.com/d59017739
This post has been edited by Murteira_Nabo: Nov 9 2009, 03:26 AM
Post by: robbie2883 on November 08, 2009, 08:50:00 PM
Post by: JAmerican on February 03, 2020, 09:11:00 PM
Post by: DiscoveryX360 on November 08, 2009, 09:20:00 PM
QUOTE(robbie2883 @ Nov 8 2009, 10:50 PM)
just thought i'd share my experience. i have 5 xbox's registered with MS. two are banned and 3 are not. the two that are banned i get the error screen when i try to request a repair. the 3 that are not banned i can go through the whole repair request. so my guess is MS ain't stupid!
I don't get it.. My cousins isn't banned yet he gets the error and he was online not long ago (a few hours ago lol)...
Maybe it's coming lol
Post by: Derfuhrer on February 03, 2020, 09:34:00 PM
QUOTE
Thanks for the updates in regards to this "Safe Ban". I've been using the Error 54420 as my warning sign to stay away from LIVE.
While you may stay offline for now you are banned on the server side, so when your console tries to dial in it will be banned proper.
Post by: majinsoftware on November 08, 2009, 10:41:00 PM
One of my mates who got banned 3 days ago, Did the warranty repair thing. Website worked fine no errors and he sent the xbox in today.
Post by: DiscoveryX360 on November 08, 2009, 10:51:00 PM
QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Nov 9 2009, 12:41 AM)
I can confirm the online method isnt 100% reliable.
One of my mates who got banned 3 days ago, Did the warranty repair thing. Website worked fine no errors and he sent the xbox in today.
good to know
Post by: HookeyStreet on November 09, 2009, 02:38:00 AM
QUOTE(Murteira_Nabo @ Nov 9 2009, 02:25 AM)
Also, this cracked me up xD
So they are lifting the banhammer on Friday 13th
(M$ having a laugh)
Post by: piojo on November 09, 2009, 01:43:00 PM
1) the error page with the url ends in ".../Errors.aspx?id=54420"
it seems that this error is only happenning if on us locale in xbox.com.
I tried UK and Australia and both worked for me.
2) get the next error:
The service order did not pass the validation check because of a product flag or another repair order already exists for the serial number
3) run through the whole procedure. which is getting to the shipping, review and reciept page at least or
even farther and getting the email with the shipping details.
did someone with a banned console succeeded in requesting a repair (option 3, off course) ?
btw, there's the other test through network connection test and in this movie the guy says it doesnt block your Hdd: (watch in HD)
I think it works only for the ones who didnt install the last update.
Post by: 3-ranger on November 09, 2009, 01:48:00 PM
He also denied the update, the scond time there was no update only a question to submit data to M$. He denied --> bann
Post by: piojo on November 09, 2009, 02:17:00 PM
QUOTE(3-ranger @ Nov 9 2009, 10:48 PM)
Someone in a german forum writes that he as banned after the network test. I do the test one time not a second.
He also denied the update, the scond time there was no update only a question to submit data to M$. He denied --> bann
so I guess he needed to press Y, like the the tutorial says and see that he got the z value that means a ban, and disconnect the cable.
what about the second method (request a repair)? anyone with a ban tried that?
Post by: DiscoveryX360 on November 09, 2009, 02:35:00 PM
Post by: SoapyTaco on November 09, 2009, 02:47:00 PM
QUOTE(DiscoveryX360 @ Nov 9 2009, 04:35 PM)
Piojo you are not on the overseas database that's why you can go through with it on another location, I revered to original FW and am on live right now, I was and probably still am flagged on the repair error still but I hope that it goes away like someone has already reported (they reverted back to orig and they CAN use the repair button now after a day of testing) I will report how it goes for me later today and tomorrow.
Same for me. I was flagged with the 55420 error and withe UK servers. I was not banned on live yet so I just got OFW and played Crackdown for like 15 minutes. Today I played Naruto BB for 20 minutes online and played sotry mode for 40 minutes with live on. 15 minutes ago still banned from the website.
Post by: DiscoveryX360 on November 09, 2009, 03:01:00 PM
QUOTE(SoapyTaco @ Nov 9 2009, 04:47 PM)
Same for me. I was flagged with the 55420 error and withe UK servers. I was not banned on live yet so I just got OFW and played Crackdown for like 15 minutes. Today I played Naruto BB for 20 minutes online and played sotry mode for 40 minutes with live on. 15 minutes ago still banned from the website.
Their website is delayed don't expect a status change right away..
Post by: Chill911 on November 09, 2009, 03:24:00 PM
Post by: Cloudstrike on November 09, 2009, 03:30:00 PM
QUOTE
Its already been figured out that you can restore hd functionality with restoring a backup of your nand that you made before being banned. This is all a moot point since microsoft adds banned consoles to a list included with each update including on game discs. Which means if you restore your 360 to hd install functionality with restore of nand, the next update on a game disc or a friends hd will disable it again. Google. Crl.bin revoked consoles list update.
Post by: jimmywalker on November 09, 2009, 03:49:00 PM
I'm not banned at the moment by the way.
Post by: Cloudstrike on November 09, 2009, 04:01:00 PM
QUOTE(jimmywalker @ Nov 10 2009, 08:19 AM)
I'm in the UK and get the error on the US site, but not when I request a repair on the UK site. Is it a problem with the US site or is it that the UK site is not up to date with flagging etc?
I'm not banned at the moment by the way.
I get the same as you, except I am from Australia and the Australian repair page works for me.
I don't really want to lose HDD installs so I haven't plugged my 360 into my router to check if I am banned or not lol.
Post by: jimmywalker on November 09, 2009, 04:01:00 PM
Post by: Chill911 on November 09, 2009, 04:07:00 PM
Post by: jimmywalker on November 09, 2009, 04:16:00 PM
Post by: zeppy218 on November 09, 2009, 05:02:00 PM
Post by: DiscoveryX360 on November 09, 2009, 05:04:00 PM
QUOTE(piojo @ Nov 9 2009, 06:55 PM)
so how come people get this error:
The service order did not pass the validation check because of a product flag or another repair order already exists for the serial number
as well?
It's stated on their website, banned consoles or flagged ones can't repair their system even for a fee even w/o a warranty, hope they recheck your console and get unflagged once they verify, I think that they do recheck on people that are flagged before they outright ban you.
Post by: nfidel on November 09, 2009, 08:11:00 PM
Toddler and some others have said they were able to rid themselves of the 54420 error by reflashing back to original FW but that did not work for me. I tried and console got the ban hammer.
Post by: SoapyTaco on November 09, 2009, 09:04:00 PM
QUOTE(nfidel @ Nov 9 2009, 10:11 PM)
Interesting that the US and international support pages show different results. I think the US server is a pretty accurate ban forecaster, tho it might be flagging additional issues we are not aware of.
Toddler and some others have said they were able to rid themselves of the 54420 error by reflashing back to original FW but that did not work for me. I tried and console got the ban hammer.
Sunday I got the 55420 error but no ban from the internet test. I went back to OFW and today played online for around 20 minutes, nothing happening. I then went back to CFW and am now playing offline backups. I just checked the xbox.com site and according to the UK, US, and AUS sites I can't ask for a repair.
Does anyone know how long I have to be online for M$ to verify me?
Post by: Toddler on November 09, 2009, 09:23:00 PM
QUOTE(sonic2120 @ Nov 5 2009, 08:23 AM)
I get the error message when trying to register for a repair of a console I know isn't banned. I just got on Live with it after I tried to get a repair.
That means nothing, the ban simply hasn't hit your console yet.
QUOTE(ImRickJamesB1tch @ Nov 5 2009, 10:03 AM)
Ok this test is BS. Online I was getting that error. But I just checked now and Im not banned...Dunno what the issue is...
Not banned yet, but give it time.
I know people are getting the 54420 error but haven't been banned yet. I think that just means you're flagged, and it's going to be your turn soon enough. But I don't know of anyone who has looked up a banned console without getting the 54420 error.
Correct me if I'm wrong about that.
QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Nov 8 2009, 11:41 PM)
I can confirm the online method isnt 100% reliable.
One of my mates who got banned 3 days ago, Did the warranty repair thing. Website worked fine no errors and he sent the xbox in today.
It seems like only the US site returns the error message. Maybe they are the master (of course they are based in the US) for a database that hasn't been updated in other countries or something.
Post by: jimmywalker on November 09, 2009, 11:39:00 PM
Post by: Cubic_X on November 10, 2009, 02:06:00 AM
Post by: lpetersen on November 10, 2009, 02:16:00 AM
QUOTE(Cubic_X @ Nov 10 2009, 10:06 AM)
On the US site I get the error with the specified errorcode, but on the Dutch site (I live in the Netherlands) I don't get the error. I disconnected my Xbox 360 when I heard about the ongoing banwave, so I'm not banned at this moment. Does this error mean that I'm flagged? If so, what should I do? Flashing my BenQ drive back to stock and wait for a new iXtreme release? (I have my own original firmware backupped).
Same here. I live in the Netherlands as well, and have the error code for my two consoles on the US site but not on the Dutch site. I presume that this means the Dutch site isn't up to date. One of my consoles is banned (got the message), the other I turned on but no message.
Post by: mogwaimon on November 10, 2009, 03:09:00 AM
Post by: Ironaxe on November 10, 2009, 03:42:00 AM
Current Warranty Status
Status: In Warranty
Device: Xbox 360 Elite System
Serial Number: XXXXXXXXXXXX
Warranty Type: Standard
Warranty Expiration: 3/4/2011 4:00:00 PM
NVM: Got the 54420 Error aswell at the US Site.
Post by: toddgei on November 10, 2009, 04:25:00 AM
EDIT: I just checked again logged into my profile and played street fighter 2 xbla from my HDD and it worked fine.
Seems like if you do the network test with the HDD removed and say no to the update it will tell you whether or not you are banned without screwing up your HDD saves and installs etc
Post by: jimmywalker on November 10, 2009, 04:40:00 AM
QUOTE(toddgei @ Nov 10 2009, 01:25 PM)
I did the "safe" check with the HDD removed, I got a message asking for an update which I said no and then it said I was banned, but my HDD function seems okay I think, I tried one of my downloaded arcade games and it seemed to work fine.
EDIT: I just checked again logged into my profile and played street fighter 2 xbla from my HDD and it worked fine.
Seems like if you do the network test with the HDD removed and say no to the update it will tell you whether or not you are banned without screwing up your HDD saves and installs etc
Problem is some of us already have that update so will get banned when we do this anyway
Post by: toddgei on November 10, 2009, 04:49:00 AM
QUOTE(jimmywalker @ Nov 10 2009, 12:40 PM)
Problem is some of us already have that update so will get banned when we do this anyway
If you are already flagged as banned, next time your console is online whether it has new firmware or not it will be hammer time.
Nah I just found out that after the "safe" check my hdd installs no longer work.
damn
Post by: ironchef86 on November 10, 2009, 05:40:00 AM
QUOTE(toddgei @ Nov 10 2009, 06:25 AM)
I did the "safe" check with the HDD removed, I got a message asking for an update which I said no and then it said I was banned, but my HDD function seems okay I think, I tried one of my downloaded arcade games and it seemed to work fine.
EDIT: I just checked again logged into my profile and played street fighter 2 xbla from my HDD and it worked fine.
Seems like if you do the network test with the HDD removed and say no to the update it will tell you whether or not you are banned without screwing up your HDD saves and installs etc
Could you try installing a game on the hdd and see if it works? Thanks.
Post by: piojo on November 10, 2009, 06:00:00 AM
QUOTE(toddgei @ Nov 10 2009, 02:44 PM)
I just checked and I can no longer install games to my HDD
so avoid doing this if you dont want to cripple your drive.other than that it seems okay, xbox live in Australia is worthless because of lag so I am not concerned if I dont have access to it, I will miss downloading from the arcade though but I guess I will just rely on my PS3 now for that side of things (even though XBLA is infinitely better than the PS store)
say, did you do exactly as this guy: ??
Post by: elexion on November 10, 2009, 06:20:00 AM
QUOTE(zeppy218 @ Nov 10 2009, 01:02 AM)
Just to let people know, I've flashed a spare ms28 with original firmware and spoofed as liteon to try and reverse the 55420 error. Playing online with borderlands, will report back when/if the repair site changes.
and How're things going zeppy218?
Post by: Spooning on November 10, 2009, 10:01:00 AM
Im from germany and registered 2 consoles...
The virgin
Xbox 360 Arcade System: Serial #: 1
Standard Warranty: Expires: 05/03/2010
And the hooker
Xbox 360 Elite System: Serial #: 2
Standard Warranty: Expires: 11/11/2009
LiteOn spoofed as Hitachi79
SELFBANNED!
I think my Elite would get the banhammer sooner or later,cause its already flagged!
Just made the repair request on the us site and it gives me the 54420 page...
On the german support site its still fine!
For the virgin 360 I can make a repair request without problems??! This is serious!
Greetings
Post by: keola on November 10, 2009, 11:09:00 AM
Post by: jimmywalker on November 10, 2009, 12:26:00 PM
QUOTE(keola @ Nov 10 2009, 08:09 PM)
okay, so here is what i got when i did the test. i have two flashed xboxs. one xbox i use all the time and the other i haven't used in a couple of months. the xbox that i use cannot be repaired acording to the site. it gives me the error. the other flashed xbox can be repaired. i know it is doing that because i haven't played in a while but I am going to try and "un-flash" my boxes (or re-flash the original fw) and see what happens. keep you posted.
Let us know ASAP mate - I am not officially banned but I know I will be when I logon. I get the error and I also phoned support to get a repair and they said I was banned too. Last chance saloon is to flash back to stock and see if it disappears. Trouble is I've got a lite-on so gonna have to find another drive and spoof it.
Post by: Spooning on November 10, 2009, 01:58:00 PM
"Little update"
Ive registered a BANNED box from a friend,guess what? Yes,the error screen appears! 54420
Xbox 360 Arcade Console Bundle: Serial #: 3
Standard Warranty: Expires: 02/08/2011
What a coincidence
Post by: wyldstallions on November 10, 2009, 02:42:00 PM
Does this error only show up if you submit or actually place the repair ??
Post by: wyldstallions on November 10, 2009, 03:05:00 PM
Another two 1 recently modded (liteon) but hardly had many games through it. And one is factory original. These can be registed no problem.
Post by: Chx77 on November 10, 2009, 05:54:00 PM
and well, when I go to Xbox.com/sv-SE/ and order a repair it works fine, but if I use the american xbox.com and order a repair I get the error message and I also have that 54420 in the URL..which would mean that you're banned... so I'm bit confused atm lol
Maybe the error message when ordering a repair could mean that you've been flagged, but not banned just yet?
Post by: armada66 on November 10, 2009, 05:59:00 PM
QUOTE(Chx77 @ Nov 11 2009, 10:54 AM)
I just did this 'text xboxlive connection test', and I didn't get that code 8~~~-190D
and well, when I go to Xbox.com/sv-SE/ and order a repair it works fine, but if I use the american xbox.com and order a repair I get the error message and I also have that 54420 in the URL..which would mean that you're banned... so I'm bit confused atm lol
Maybe the error message when ordering a repair could mean that you've been flagged, but not banned just yet?
I have 2 friends banned.
1 gets the 54420 error on the US site, not on the aussie site.
1 got the 54420 error on the US site, not on the aussie site, wasnt banned, 2 days after playing on live with error was banned.
I myself yet to get error 54420.
Post by: Derfuhrer on November 11, 2009, 04:37:00 AM
For the record i never played Wave 4, pre-release or unverified non stealth iso's. It seems MS are able to detect modified firmware and/or patch data from abgx... :|
Benq 1.6...live in Australia
To all readers....
I was able to lodge a repair prior to connecting again and did the network test with no HDD..code said I was not banned. Seems i must have been flagged though.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SAFE CHECK.....YOU ARE EITHER BANNED OR NOT, SIMPLE AS THAT!
Post by: armada66 on November 11, 2009, 02:04:00 PM
QUOTE(Derfuhrer @ Nov 11 2009, 09:37 PM)
My mate was banned last Sun. I was fine that day, havn't connected since,flashed back to stock tonight and tried to connect....BANNED!
For the record i never played Wave 4, pre-release or unverified non stealth iso's. It seems MS are able to detect modified firmware and/or patch data from abgx... :|
Benq 1.6...live in Australia
To all readers....
I was able to lodge a repair prior to connecting again and did the network test with no HDD..code said I was not banned. Seems i must have been flagged though.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SAFE CHECK.....YOU ARE EITHER BANNED OR NOT, SIMPLE AS THAT!
Ummmm, WRONG.
The test DOESN'T work on the aussie site, myself and mates have checked dozens of times and it does not show, hence why you still can do it on the aussie xbox.com.au site.
Xbox.com, signed in as a United States console, DOES in fact show if your banned with 54420, as myself and many i know can confirm, all from australia.
Post by: Spooning on November 11, 2009, 02:32:00 PM
QUOTE(Derfuhrer @ Nov 11 2009, 12:37 PM)
It seems MS are able to detect modified firmware and/or patch data from abgx... :|
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SAFE CHECK.....YOU ARE EITHER BANNED OR NOT, SIMPLE AS THAT!
Try it yourself!
Now Ive registered another flashed console which I wanted to keep for the JTAG Hack...
Anyway,a gave it to my bro just for OFFLINE gaming.Its not been banned! Was not connected to live
before the new Dashboard 8XXX arrived! ---> A few month now offline,latest Dash was 7XXX,I dont know exactly! It got updated to Dash 8XXX through a new game (Tekken6) only!
Checked the "request a repair" status with it... Klicked on the button
And it seems to be OK,cause this console doesnt get the 54420 error page!!! I could send it to MS...
So its not even spotted I think! It will propably never go on Live again,maybe the new Dash logged something offline and will send it to MS if you connect to XBL!
Yesterday a friend of mine tried this "verification method" with his flashed XBL console.
He gets the errorpage 54420,but is not banned YET!
Sooner or later they sweep\ban him,I bet my ass on it.Wrong time,wrong place! You know?
So,derfuhrer!
How many consoles have YOU tested?!
Greetz
Post by: armada66 on November 11, 2009, 03:53:00 PM
Another friend got the error last night, a mate from the UK, he doesn't get error on uk site, got the error on US site, he went online to test (he has a spare 360) and an hour after playing gow2, bannage.
So, 3 people i know the error code confirms working on US site, but not on the UK or Aussie site.
Post by: Spooning on November 11, 2009, 04:17:00 PM
Thats why it works only there,maybe...
German Xbox.com site is crap,as usual
Post by: zeppy218 on November 11, 2009, 05:06:00 PM
QUOTE(elexion @ Nov 10 2009, 02:20 PM)
and How're things going zeppy218?
not banned yet, been online since yesterday afternoon and all last night, the website still says 55420 as of now.
Post by: DiscoveryX360 on November 11, 2009, 08:29:00 PM
QUOTE(zeppy218 @ Nov 11 2009, 07:06 PM)
not banned yet, been online since yesterday afternoon and all last night, the website still says 55420 as of now.
keep us updated zeppy lol.
Post by: hitcat on November 11, 2009, 08:48:00 PM
Or two go into your system settings and network, and run a test on xbox live.
if it gives you the error code in Z than your banned, dont know the error code? Google it.
Post by: Derfuhrer on November 11, 2009, 08:53:00 PM
QUOTE(armada66 @ Nov 12 2009, 08:04 AM)
Ummmm, WRONG.
The test DOESN'T work on the aussie site, myself and mates have checked dozens of times and it does not show, hence why you still can do it on the aussie xbox.com.au site.
Xbox.com, signed in as a United States console, DOES in fact show if your banned with 54420, as myself and many i know can confirm, all from australia.
ummm....think logicistics why would you lodge a request for a repair on the US site, when you are in Austrlalia? When you do this you must be logged into xbox.com, the same site in real terms. I did the test last Sun morning got the error (on US). Then I successfully logged into Xbox live straight after.
Also if you read through this thread from top to bottom (like I did) you will see that results are not consistent. I had to know for sure if I was banned and found out last night as I couldnt just stay off live indefinately. If you feel you are mate then dont connect. But know this...if you are flagged you are banned!
QUOTE(Spooning @ Nov 12 2009, 08:32 AM)
Try it yourself!
Now Ive registered another flashed console which I wanted to keep for the JTAG Hack...
Anyway,a gave it to my bro just for OFFLINE gaming.Its not been banned! Was not connected to live
before the new Dashboard 8XXX arrived! ---> A few month now offline,latest Dash was 7XXX,I dont know exactly! It got updated to Dash 8XXX through a new game (Tekken6) only!
Checked the "request a repair" status with it... Klicked on the button
And it seems to be OK,cause this console doesnt get the 54420 error page!!! I could send it to MS...
So its not even spotted I think! It will propably never go on Live again,maybe the new Dash logged something offline and will send it to MS if you connect to XBL!
Yesterday a friend of mine tried this "verification method" with his flashed XBL console.
He gets the errorpage 54420,but is not banned YET!
Sooner or later they sweep\ban him,I bet my ass on it.Wrong time,wrong place! You know?
So,derfuhrer!
How many consoles have YOU tested?!
Greetz
I did try it mate read my reply above. Funny you confirm what I said earlier with your mate who got the error but can connect live. He will be banned soon enough. I doubt few will survive the ban waves this year.
Guys before you all get upset like these two peeps...if you run the tests in this thread, although the network one will accept your ban, consider this....after I connected to live on Sun (didnt play just logged in), I didnt touch my 360 till last night, I flashed back to stock and tried to connect banned. Thus I had already been flagged regardless of how I tried to fly straight again.......it just hadnt come through.
In conclusion if you know you played online with hacked firmware and backups after the 28th system update...dont connect to live if you want to keep HDD install, because if that console id ever 'dials in'....ban hammer
peace...
Post by: modoman on November 12, 2009, 05:30:00 PM
Post by: Derfuhrer on November 12, 2009, 05:33:00 PM
. So your not banned yet, you can connect to live? With 600k -1M consoles apparently banned you would be very lucky to survive. Dont clebrate yet the waves have not finished....
Post by: CaptainStu on November 13, 2009, 12:57:00 AM
Obviously, this could be a coincidence but I would personally advise against doing this to "check" if you're flagged for banning. If you've played pre-release games then I would just expect the ban and change console.
Post by: Murteira_Nabo on November 13, 2009, 01:21:00 AM
Post by: tactical on November 13, 2009, 09:52:00 AM
People that read the first post and do what it says will BAN them.
I thought it said safe BAN CHECK, this way is NOT SAFE at ALL and the FIRST POST SHOULD REFLECT that , that is why we have 13 pages.
I took the test and I did get the code , and 1 minute later came the message "your console is banned". At that point you lose hard drive install feature.
Post by: DiscoveryX360 on November 13, 2009, 12:14:00 PM
QUOTE(tactical @ Nov 13 2009, 11:52 AM)
Shouldn't this thread be put into garbage bin.
People that read the first post and do what it says will BAN them.
I thought it said safe BAN CHECK, this way is NOT SAFE at ALL and the FIRST POST SHOULD REFLECT that , that is why we have 13 pages.
I took the test and I did get the code , and 1 minute later came the message "your console is banned". At that point you lose hard drive install feature.
People that read the first post and do what it says will BAN them.
I thought it said safe BAN CHECK, this way is NOT SAFE at ALL and the FIRST POST SHOULD REFLECT that , that is why we have 13 pages.
I took the test and I did get the code , and 1 minute later came the message "your console is banned". At that point you lose hard drive install feature.
you clueless IDIOT, the point was that if you SAW the code you didn't take the risk of going online with the 360, you where going to get banned regardless if you did this test or not if you where already flagged.
some of you people are so freaking clueless.
Post by: CardnalSyn on November 13, 2009, 12:18:00 PM
DOES THIS MEAN I CAN STILL REQUEST A REPAIR???
Post by: IamReptar on November 13, 2009, 01:31:00 PM
QUOTE(tactical @ Nov 13 2009, 12:25 PM)
You don't have to revert to name-calling , my point was , I checked the repair site and it did the ban code, at that point, there was possiblity that if I stayed offline and get the new firmware that is coming out soon I might have been able to avoid the ban, some people say the last one is a FINAL check.
I took the hard drive off the 360 and I thought checking the connection was "safe way to tell" and I never logged on, but just doing the check and in 10 second message came , I was banned.
I can see if I logged on to live with hard drive or gametag, but taking this TEST can BAN you.
If you don't get what I am saying, ok, but if I had read what I wrote in last post, I would never have taken this TEST.
I'm trying to save others that get the "repair error" from taking this test, because if 360 gets NEW firmware and then connects you "might be given the FINAL TEST and PASS it." I don't know and you don't know, but taking this "SAFE method in this THREAD is sure to BAN YOU.
Where in this thread does it tell you to do a connection test? If you receive the error you will be banned, plain and simple. Why would you need to test any further?
Post by: AnimeCommander on November 13, 2009, 01:39:00 PM
QUOTE(tactical @ Nov 13 2009, 01:25 PM)
You don't have to revert to name-calling , my point was , I checked the repair site and it did the ban code, at that point, there was possiblity that if I stayed offline and get the new firmware that is coming out soon I might have been able to avoid the ban, some people say the last one is a FINAL check.
I took the hard drive off the 360 and I thought checking the connection was "safe way to tell" and I never logged on, but just doing the check and in 10 second message came , I was banned.
I can see if I logged on to live with hard drive or gametag, but taking this TEST can BAN you.
If you don't get what I am saying, ok, but if I had read what I wrote in last post, I would never have taken this TEST.
I'm trying to save others that get the "repair error" from taking this test, because if 360 gets NEW firmware and then connects you "might be given the FINAL TEST and PASS it." I don't know and you don't know, but taking this "SAFE method in this THREAD is sure to BAN YOU.
If you're flagged for ban by any "check", then no new firmware can avoid it. You are banned server side. The box is banned no matter what you do to it after the fact
Post by: tactical on November 13, 2009, 01:41:00 PM
QUOTE(IamReptar @ Nov 13 2009, 11:31 AM)
Where in this thread does it tell you to do a connection test? If you receive the error you will be banned, plain and simple. Why would you need to test any further?
Gee, my error, I was on another thread labeled "safe way to test if banned"
on one of my other sites and I'm replying to that thread.
Here is the thread I meant to respond to:
http://www.se7ensins...you-banned.html
Post by: armada66 on November 13, 2009, 02:04:00 PM
QUOTE(CardnalSyn @ Nov 14 2009, 05:18 AM)
Hey, i click on request repair and i can still fill out the form and everything to print a shipping label, but my XBOX is banned because i tried connection to live a few days ago...
DOES THIS MEAN I CAN STILL REQUEST A REPAIR???
Did you do a test on the US, UK or Aus site?
I'm from australia, now had myself and 6 mates tested it. It doesn't work for any of us on the aussie site, shows fine and dandy.
But, by changing location at top of xbox.com.au to united states, going onto xbox.com so that a .US comes up in repair area, this repair test works.
3 banned repair error 54420
2 repair error 54420 for few days, still played on LIVE, then ban
2 of us no repair error, not banned, still playing fine on LIVE.
Post by: ryams27 on November 13, 2009, 03:05:00 PM
Post by: Spooning on November 13, 2009, 03:23:00 PM
QUOTE(tactical @ Nov 13 2009, 05:52 PM)
Shouldn't this thread be put into garbage bin.
People that read the first post and do what it says will BAN them.
I thought it said safe BAN CHECK, this way is NOT SAFE at ALL and the FIRST POST SHOULD REFLECT that , that is why we have 13 pages.
I took the test and I did get the code , and 1 minute later came the message "your console is banned". At that point you lose hard drive install feature.
A friend got banned today,hes got the error page 54420 2 days ago!
Another friend who was banned today,didnt make ANY network tests!!!
It has nothing to do with it,MS WILL CATCH YOU this time
Post by: DiscoveryX360 on November 13, 2009, 05:07:00 PM
Post by: mabhz on November 13, 2009, 07:51:00 PM
But one thing VERY peculiar happened with the banned console....... the warranty expiration date is WAY off!!
It shows as expiration on 16/06/2010, while the console was bought about 4 months earlier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
how come is that possible???
Post by: CardnalSyn on November 13, 2009, 10:42:00 PM
QUOTE(armada66 @ Nov 13 2009, 03:04 PM)
Did you do a test on the US, UK or Aus site?
I'm from australia, now had myself and 6 mates tested it. It doesn't work for any of us on the aussie site, shows fine and dandy.
But, by changing location at top of xbox.com.au to united states, going onto xbox.com so that a .US comes up in repair area, this repair test works.
3 banned repair error 54420
2 repair error 54420 for few days, still played on LIVE, then ban
2 of us no repair error, not banned, still playing fine on LIVE.
i did it on the us one...
Post by: The Juggler on November 14, 2009, 09:52:00 AM
Xbox 1 - I purchased 1 month ago (modded, but not on XBL in the last week or so), yet warranty expires next month??
Xbox 2 - I purchased yesterday (not modded....yet)
Xbox 3 - Is 1-1/2 years old (modded and banned from XBL).
If I try to request a repair on # 1 or # 3, it gives me the error page.
If I try to request a repair on # 2 it brings me to the "Tell us your problem" step.
Post by: Zod5000 on November 14, 2009, 05:39:00 PM
says my console is already registered.
I bought it brand new from walmart a number of years ago.. didn't show any signs of being returned.
I did give my serial/console ID for the nxe beta signup? Maybe thats why they consider it regged? still strange it wouldn't show up under my windows live id.
Post by: Keezie on November 14, 2009, 10:50:00 PM
Post by: Spooning on November 15, 2009, 05:18:00 AM
QUOTE(AnimeCommander @ Nov 13 2009, 09:39 PM)
If you're flagged for ban by any "check", then no new firmware can avoid it. You are banned server side. The box is banned no matter what you do to it after the fact
Word
Post by: mat1983 on November 15, 2009, 10:04:00 AM
Can i know if i am banned without connecting to Live?
cause i heven´t connected yet and i am still able to save games to the HDD
For those that have been banned do you got that message on the xbox site about the warranty:
(IMG:http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2844/warranty.jpg) (IMG:http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/warranty.jpg/1/w609.png)
thanks
This post has been edited by mat1983: Nov 15 2009, 06:22 PM
Post by: jetracer on November 15, 2009, 10:13:00 AM
Post by: mat1983 on November 15, 2009, 10:23:00 AM
but if we loose warranty when we are banned. in here should appear without warranty for those how are banned.
please banned people check this
Post by: Derfuhrer on November 15, 2009, 02:17:00 PM
The advice I am giving my previous customers is "if you played backup online after you accepeted the Oct 28th update then expect to be banned, regardless of what you did to avoid the ban. If you just have to know then understand you will lose your HDD install function"
This topic is nuts when I think about it...you want a safe check do you??? Flash back to stock and try to connect to live. If you can then thank god, if you cant just accept the consequences of your actions. I did....
Post by: Uegwen on November 19, 2009, 11:13:00 AM
I found my console has the repair error... couldn't remember the last time I went on live but I certainly remembered when his did so out it came for the serial number. Went on the repair site, same problem. Now that's just odd. Perhaps it got flagged this summer some how? Doesn't really matter for him as it won't be played until June. We'll see what goes down.
Hopefully the new firmware comes out soon and I can give it a whirl.
Post by: mabhz on November 19, 2009, 01:01:00 PM
QUOTE(Derfuhrer @ Nov 15 2009, 06:17 PM)
Not sure about that as I didnt check afterwards, suffice to say I was in warranty and could request a repair just before I flashed back to stock and tried to connect..... banned
The advice I am giving my previous customers is "if you played backup online after you accepeted the Oct 28th update then expect to be banned, regardless of what you did to avoid the ban. If you just have to know then understand you will lose your HDD install function"
This topic is nuts when I think about it...you want a safe check do you??? Flash back to stock and try to connect to live. If you can then thank god, if you cant just accept the consequences of your actions. I did....
Well, i havent played online after october 28th, actually, i NEVER played online, and got banned. The only thing i did online was purchase Trials HD!!
Post by: me2611 on November 29, 2009, 12:45:00 PM
Post by: under420dog on November 29, 2009, 03:28:00 PM
and just for reference I am ban on 1 box it won't show warranty good..why would it your ban
but the repair shows up for that console....it has been said to me over the phone that if 1 console is ban and 1 ain't you can't use the license transfer option
P.S this is after a ban not pre ban like some are trying to see...use XVal_v2.0 the man that made it is awesome...
i look at it like this(no ones really knows) if i can remote into my other pc's and see any info i want(drives and system) ..why can't live...it don't matter if you flash back they already have the info they need ...some do pass by and most don't...
and the test isn't connecting to live via game it's in the console info to test if you can connect to live...so do it right
Post by: billyrainbow on December 28, 2009, 08:07:00 AM
And and what point during the submission process is this error thrown?
I'm currently at the "Enter Billing Information" step of the process and I haven't seen any 54420 errors yet. Do I need to go further?
Post by: 6ft6 on January 18, 2010, 01:13:00 AM
There is only 1 modded for mine wright now the rest are not and NOT banned and still get the same msg about making a repair request...
Post by: erak on January 31, 2010, 02:42:00 PM
So my saves doesn't get corrupted if I use my HDD with this console.
Post by: surrealism on February 08, 2010, 08:58:00 AM
QUOTE(surrealism @ Feb 8 2010, 02:28 AM)
Interesting, I just tried this with my old console. I can't even register the console it says "invalid serial number" when I try to register/repair the console on the site. I tried that network connectivity test (not sure if that's accurate) and that shoots back Z: 8015 - 1002 which apparently means it wasn't flagged?
Shrug, who knows. I'll sign it into live one of these days.
Also just did the connectivity test on my roomies Xbox with the HD off and it popped up saying the console was banned.
Post by: stranglerdave on February 14, 2010, 03:10:00 AM
Unable to Complete Repair
Sorry, at this time we are unable to complete your request for an Xbox console repair. If you would like further assistance with this request, please call us at 1-800-4MY-XBOX.
Is this means that I'm Banned?
Post by: erak on February 14, 2010, 08:33:00 PM
QUOTE(erak @ Jan 31 2010, 10:42 PM)
I know that my console is banned, because microsoft support told me. But how do I check if the console knows? Xval returns secdata clean.
So my saves doesn't get corrupted if I use my HDD with this console.
Anyone?
Edit: I think i figured it out. I'll try to install a game to the hdd. If it works, i'm flagged, if it doesn't, it's banned. Right?
Post by: thwack on February 15, 2010, 08:46:00 AM
QUOTE(erak @ Feb 15 2010, 03:33 AM)
Anyone?
Edit: I think i figured it out. I'll try to install a game to the hdd. If it works, i'm flagged, if it doesn't, it's banned. Right?
If MS told you you're banned, then your banned. If you haven't tried to access Live, then your 360 will function like a normal 360. Once you try to access Live, it'll write to your NAND ('bad' secdata) and 'cripple' your console, not the HD. If you play games on that console after 'crippling' then the saves will become corrupt.
Easiest method to check bannage: dump your NAND pre Live connecting, make sure the NAND dumps are good. Connect to Live without your regular profile/HD, if your console's banned, it's banned - write good NAND dump bcak to 360 and you've got a normal 360 (sans Live).