Post by: schizzlefuzz on January 16, 2007, 07:08:00 PM
Post by: 1337 pig on January 16, 2007, 07:17:00 PM
Post by: smileboot on January 16, 2007, 07:27:00 PM
Post by: sirjonesalot on January 16, 2007, 07:29:00 PM
Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on January 16, 2007, 07:56:00 PM
Post by: belke on January 16, 2007, 08:24:00 PM
QUOTE(ILLusions0fGrander @ Jan 16 2007, 09:03 PM) 
Oh fuck.. i modded my 360 and got banned, which in turn banned me from starting my car, opening my fridge, turning on hot water, and operating my microwave... good thing my pace maker still runs linux :/
I like your 360 and wii. just thought id throw it out there.
Post by: 0794 on January 16, 2007, 08:41:00 PM
QUOTE(ILLusions0fGrander @ Jan 16 2007, 09:03 PM)
Oh fuck.. i modded my 360 and got banned, which in turn banned me from starting my car, opening my fridge, turning on hot water, and operating my microwave... good thing my pace maker still runs linux :/
Isn't that the truth...
Anyways, I really can't see myself using XBL (or whatever the cross-platform name would be) outside of the xbox for gaming as I buy most of my media and just call my friends when I need to (not into IM nor chatting). Of course, I probably don't fit the market profile for the new Live anyways...
Post by: epsilon72 on January 16, 2007, 09:21:00 PM
QUOTE(sephiro499 @ Jan 16 2007, 07:48 PM)
I see a bleak and tyranical future for all forms of gaming with microsoft dominating everywhere. Sony will eventually lose since they have no killer 1st party games, MS will just buy off all of their developers and you can see this already happening with ps3 losing exclusives. Unlimited money always wins, and MS can dominate any industry it wants just by leveraging it's illegal OS monopoly.
The future of xbox live is a completely locked down and regulated 'online marketplace' where if you so much as sneeze the wrong way it'll cost you marketplace points. MS isn't missing the boat this time like they missed the boat on the internet explosion. They understand that the future of console games is ALL about the network. It's always better to play against/with a human opponent then with the computer (unless maybe you were practicing). Xbox LIVE will leave all competitiors in the dust since the competition just doesn't seem to GET IT. In the age of highspeed internet connectivity is key.
Hopefully without getting too much off topic I think the xbox 360 is really MS's ideal picture of a trusted computing platform. It's a box that is so locked down you can't do anything with it. You have to work with MS to create applications/games on it. At least on the pc the development is a little more free. Microsoft only developed the xbox 360 to make it a portal vending machine that they keep in your living room.
I loved the first xbox for it's hackability, sadly this doesn't seem to be the case with the second xbox.
I agree with you completely.The future of xbox live is a completely locked down and regulated 'online marketplace' where if you so much as sneeze the wrong way it'll cost you marketplace points. MS isn't missing the boat this time like they missed the boat on the internet explosion. They understand that the future of console games is ALL about the network. It's always better to play against/with a human opponent then with the computer (unless maybe you were practicing). Xbox LIVE will leave all competitiors in the dust since the competition just doesn't seem to GET IT. In the age of highspeed internet connectivity is key.
Hopefully without getting too much off topic I think the xbox 360 is really MS's ideal picture of a trusted computing platform. It's a box that is so locked down you can't do anything with it. You have to work with MS to create applications/games on it. At least on the pc the development is a little more free. Microsoft only developed the xbox 360 to make it a portal vending machine that they keep in your living room.
I loved the first xbox for it's hackability, sadly this doesn't seem to be the case with the second xbox.
Down with monopolies. Linux ftw!
Post by: infamous_Q on January 16, 2007, 10:01:00 PM
as far as the future? total integration..the next xbox will be a VOIP hub, iptv settop box, media center PC, and probably have basic PC functionality built in. if you think about it, they're removing the hardware industry from the picture. if MS can make and sell one solid package that does everything you need it to (ie. standard gaming every generation, like a console should have, MS office, internet, communications, etc) built in to one cheap device....they can't be beat. not to mention that w/ the Live initiative they're gonna connect it to your cellphone, your PC (currently, its probably a better idea to keep PCs seperate, unlike i randomly stated above, due to the fact that they make a killing off of windows), and everything else electronic you own.
lets face it, they're brilliant, you gotta give em a hand for that. hell i wouldn't even be surprised if Bill is leaving MS so he can run for president! (<----- sarcasm)
Post by: Lamer123 on January 16, 2007, 10:55:00 PM
Post by: bucko on January 17, 2007, 12:26:00 AM
Post by: Neoistheone2000 on January 17, 2007, 01:11:00 AM
QUOTE(sicknasty413 @ Jan 16 2007, 09:34 PM)
Agreed.
Agreed.
Besides those, IDK. Perhaps something Zune related? Perhaps something cell phone related? An Xbox Live equivalent to the "Myspace" application (carried by Helio and Cingular) would be pretty sick.
a web browser would be nice
Post by: jwin767 on January 17, 2007, 01:40:00 AM
Post by: Megamil on January 17, 2007, 03:39:00 AM
QUOTE(infamous_Q @ Jan 17 2007, 12:08 AM)
ok..i gotta say this, regardless of how you feel about MS taking over the world...form a shearly businesses perspective, this is brilliant. they own, and they know it. Sony can't deal and neither can nintendo, if mac brought something viable to market they'd stand a chance since they run a seperate OS and dont need to give into MS on certain illegal demands they may make through pushing their OS (unlike Sony, and Nintendo...well..nintendo's been dead to me since they released teh gamecube anyways..)
as far as the future? total integration..the next xbox will be a VOIP hub, iptv settop box, media center PC, and probably have basic PC functionality built in. if you think about it, they're removing the hardware industry from the picture. if MS can make and sell one solid package that does everything you need it to (ie. standard gaming every generation, like a console should have, MS office, internet, communications, etc) built in to one cheap device....they can't be beat. not to mention that w/ the Live initiative they're gonna connect it to your cellphone, your PC (currently, its probably a better idea to keep PCs seperate, unlike i randomly stated above, due to the fact that they make a killing off of windows), and everything else electronic you own.
lets face it, they're brilliant, you gotta give em a hand for that. hell i wouldn't even be surprised if Bill is leaving MS so he can run for president! (<----- sarcasm)
+1
I get tired of people bitching and moaning about M$ that it's just plain annoying. I thought the purpose of business was to do better than your competitor or complete get rid of them. I mean people bitch about M$ but what about the power companies and companies like Comcast Communications that charge outrageous prices for their services?
Post by: sabbath_dude on January 17, 2007, 04:21:00 AM
QUOTE(jwin767 @ Jan 17 2007, 08:47 AM)
ways of filtering people according to area in the world you live NOW that would be brill
That would be good!. I hate it when I have to play people on the other side of the planet and the game is unplayable or the rest of the players have an unfair advantage due to lag. Maybe if I could select games by country or region that would be better.
Post by: luther349 on January 17, 2007, 05:04:00 AM
QUOTE(1337 pig @ Jan 17 2007, 04:24 AM)
Make chatrooms instead of just 1 on1 private chat.
you can have more then 1 on 1 chat i have done it all the way back to my orignal xbox. just invite multi frends into the same room. puplic chat rooms would be kinda of a bad idea.
Post by: msr on January 17, 2007, 06:40:00 AM
QUOTE(luther349 @ Jan 17 2007, 12:11 PM)
you can have more then 1 on 1 chat i have done it all the way back to my orignal xbox. just invite multi frends into the same room. puplic chat rooms would be kinda of a bad idea.
yep chat rooms with audio, would be a bad idea, and ms are trying to project a safe service for kids. ms would have to bring safeguards for these sort of things, the world we live in.
the only thing i would like is leagues and cups online in games like pro evo. like being able to make a cup competition for an evening or something.
Post by: celinedrules on January 17, 2007, 07:17:00 AM
QUOTE(bucko @ Jan 17 2007, 12:33 AM)
Make it free so poor University students like me can afford it.
I am in the same boat as you except I made my girlfirend buy me one.
Post by: sephiro499 on January 17, 2007, 08:45:00 AM
QUOTE(infamous_Q @ Jan 17 2007, 05:08 AM)
ok..i gotta say this, regardless of how you feel about MS taking over the world...form a shearly businesses perspective, this is brilliant. they own, and they know it. Sony can't deal and neither can nintendo, if mac brought something viable to market they'd stand a chance since they run a seperate OS and dont need to give into MS on certain illegal demands they may make through pushing their OS (unlike Sony, and Nintendo...well..nintendo's been dead to me since they released teh gamecube anyways..)
as far as the future? total integration..the next xbox will be a VOIP hub, iptv settop box, media center PC, and probably have basic PC functionality built in. if you think about it, they're removing the hardware industry from the picture. if MS can make and sell one solid package that does everything you need it to (ie. standard gaming every generation, like a console should have, MS office, internet, communications, etc) built in to one cheap device....they can't be beat. not to mention that w/ the Live initiative they're gonna connect it to your cellphone, your PC (currently, its probably a better idea to keep PCs seperate, unlike i randomly stated above, due to the fact that they make a killing off of windows), and everything else electronic you own.
lets face it, they're brilliant, you gotta give em a hand for that. hell i wouldn't even be surprised if Bill is leaving MS so he can run for president! (<----- sarcasm)
You are right, one MS product will cause itself to spread to other things you own. The idea of the xbox 360 being interoperable with all the other gadgets you have is great if you like MS products. If you don't like MS software and buy a 360 in order to take full advantage of it you would have to also , change your cable provider (IPTV), change your cellphone (windows mobile), change your desktop to windows (most already use it), and get rid of vonage or skype (whatever MS voip they create).
Post by: jwin767 on January 17, 2007, 08:58:00 AM
QUOTE(msr @ Jan 17 2007, 01:47 PM)
the only thing i would like is leagues and cups online in games like pro evo. like being able to make a cup competition for an evening or something.
Yea i would love to see this sort of thing implemented in the dash area (under a new blade maybe?) it would really hone down on the fact that when you play online you play to win and what better to prove that then with tournaments lol
Post by: griffin XXI on January 17, 2007, 10:22:00 AM
Post by: Phantaxus on January 17, 2007, 11:29:00 AM
QUOTE(griffin XXI @ Jan 17 2007, 07:29 PM)
How about actually being able to see all the pics/themes b4 you purchase them. No longer buy either for that reason. What crap!
you might find this handy
http://dashboardthem...ode=mostpopular
but im with you on this. There should be a preview theme/pics option
Other things that need changing
change Play Game to read Play <insert name of game here>
I paid a stupid amount of money for my 360 camera I want to be able to save more than one gamer pic
an option to show all the free market place downloads. People like freebies they like them even more when they can find them.
and option to sort marketplace downloads by date
more demos - where are the demos? how about a demo friday something new to play each weekend
order 360 faceplates through the market place with user created content on there. If somebody orders your faceplate you get some marketplace points credited to your account.
Stop the achievement cheaters by taking off double the number of points they gain by cheating. Ok it might not be easy to tell but there are some obvious ones eg got all achievements in Oblivion in one day = -2000 points.
encourage xbox live by making developers release more free content like the gears of war multiplayer maps
used in the right way it could increase game sales and xbox live subscriptions. adds value to games
Post by: 47_M450N_47 on January 17, 2007, 02:52:00 PM
Post by: rocarmy4life on January 18, 2007, 07:56:00 AM
right now its a pretty fair playing field... no one has a superior gaming rig so you arent really wondering if you are getting less frames per second than people you are playing with... you dont have to wonder if they are getting all of these ridiculous head shots with some computer assisted help...
yeah there are glitches, and thats the closest thing to a cheat so far on 360, but there are also patches to fix those cheats...
all this rambling will probably fall upon deaf ears but i am not looking forward to the day when 360 owners play online with pc owners
Post by: Fyb3roptik on January 18, 2007, 08:30:00 AM
Let me just say one thing....the 360 is awesome, we dont need to add IE to it (because you know ms will only add IE and not firefox) and make it crappier than ever. IE blows and would bog down the 360 as it is. Just quit being so damn lazy and go to your computer!!
Post by: lowendfrequency on January 18, 2007, 09:40:00 AM
As for improvements, I'd like the ability to have mulitiple people in a single chat room, including video. I'd like the ability to set custom away messages as well. It would be nice if the zune could log onto live and retrieve my friends list and messages anytime it entered a wifi hotspot. I'd also like wifi streaming of audio from my zune, although thats not really live related.
Post by: monkeyflungpoo on January 18, 2007, 01:50:00 PM
Post by: wirelessdeo on January 19, 2007, 03:20:00 PM