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Title: Ranting About Those Who Buy Jtags Purely For Modded Lobbies
Post by: soulwarrior on August 29, 2010, 11:47:00 PM
I posted this on another forum but I figured I'd post it here too:

I don't mean to act holier than thou about this, but man it's depressing to realize how many people bought jtags and/or jtagged it themselves, simply to do cod lobbies. I didn't realize how bad it was until the ping patch came out and then xlink started to pick up. So many people have no idea how to do even the simple things like using xellous, how to create a freeboot image, and even what knowing what the root of a drive is. I keep finding myself saying in my mind, "freakin A, did you really waste your money buying a jtagged system just for call of duty?" I say buying because more often than not, people who get jtags for this purpose don't usually jtag it themselves. Jtags have so much more to offer than cod lobbies and it's really depressing to see them going to waste. I say waste because once access to kv's dwindles (there are hundreds of thousands to a few million jtaggable consoles spread through the world that will never be jtagged), these jtagged 360 will end up collecting dust because the owner doesn't know its true potential. I guess it's not my money, so who am I to judge right?
Title: Ranting About Those Who Buy Jtags Purely For Modded Lobbies
Post by: pirichios on August 30, 2010, 12:11:00 AM
I am a believer that people can do whatever they want with what they bought, but I agree a 100% with you on the opinion. I remember in the xbox one days the enthusiasm was different, it was more people giving up on xbox live to turn their xbox 1's into media centers or playing classic games on their newly modded system. However I think after 2-3 years of the xbox 360 being considered as a non homebrew friendly system (before the whole jtag thing happened) it drove a lot of the original crowd away.

On the plus side of things hopefully more cool things like fba next will come out, that emu is a powerhouse!

I just wish jtagable systems were a bit easier to find, I like playing homebrew.



This post has been edited by pirichios: Aug 30 2010, 07:13 AM
Title: Ranting About Those Who Buy Jtags Purely For Modded Lobbies
Post by: bucko on August 30, 2010, 03:25:00 AM
although I nearly considered closing this I moved it to a more appropriate place, but asking for any help on Halo/Cod moding is against the forums rules...just a reminder.

Some people do find it difficult to solder though, so not everyone buys one just for COD. I found it hard and now a guy on here is doing it for me since apparently my NAND locked up and I never even read the thing (flash controller not detected) so it's not always easy.

I see it a lot on Live...rather glad they are on XLINK Kai most of them I just report/file a complaint against them on Live. You can just tell even when people laugh at you at the end of the match and they have like 30+ kills with no deaths and I just report them and leave the lobby..totally unfair but I think now I filtered sooo many I am noticing an improvement and now I'm halfway to prestige two it's better.
Title: Ranting About Those Who Buy Jtags Purely For Modded Lobbies
Post by: RRODXbox on August 30, 2010, 04:00:00 AM
I think the problem is with Xbox 1 VS Xbox 360 is back then there was less people with PC's and less wannabe hacker type kiddies making tutorials and trying to make a quick buck.

Also now that everything is copypasta across all sites the info is more easily acessed compared to Xbox 1 days.
Title: Ranting About Those Who Buy Jtags Purely For Modded Lobbies
Post by: soulwarrior on August 30, 2010, 06:21:00 AM
QUOTE(bucko @ Aug 30 2010, 05:25 AM) View Post

although I nearly considered closing this I moved it to a more appropriate place, but asking for any help on Halo/Cod moding is against the forums rules...just a reminder.

Some people do find it difficult to solder though, so not everyone buys one just for COD. I found it hard and now a guy on here is doing it for me since apparently my NAND locked up and I never even read the thing (flash controller not detected) so it's not always easy.

I see it a lot on Live...rather glad they are on XLINK Kai most of them I just report/file a complaint against them on Live. You can just tell even when people laugh at you at the end of the match and they have like 30+ kills with no deaths and I just report them and leave the lobby..totally unfair but I think now I filtered sooo many I am noticing an improvement and now I'm halfway to prestige two it's better.

I'm not saying everyone who buys a jtag does so because of COD. I'm saying I think it's a waste if that's the only reason why you do.
Title: Ranting About Those Who Buy Jtags Purely For Modded Lobbies
Post by: Jimbobjoeyman on August 30, 2010, 08:38:00 AM
QUOTE(soulwarrior @ Aug 30 2010, 01:21 PM) View Post

I'm not saying everyone who buys a jtag does so because of COD. I'm saying I think it's a waste if that's the only reason why you do.

true if all they do is jtag lobbies the console could have gone to someone who would have done something usefull port of xbmc hint hint anyone wink.gif
but when it comes down to it its thier money and thier console and they can do what ever the hell they want with it its like giving out about the number of banned consoles in the world and complaining because there is only about 6 people on x link in your area
Title: Ranting About Those Who Buy Jtags Purely For Modded Lobbies
Post by: soulwarrior on August 30, 2010, 08:52:00 AM
QUOTE(Jimbobjoeyman @ Aug 30 2010, 10:38 AM) View Post

 complaining because there is only about 6 people on x link in your area


That's what the ping patch is for friend. I should state: i don't care about the fact that consoles get banned, I'm only talking about the fact that users who only have jtagged systems for cod lobbies might not know the true potential of what a jtag can do.
Title: Ranting About Those Who Buy Jtags Purely For Modded Lobbies
Post by: BoNg420 on August 30, 2010, 08:53:00 AM
QUOTE(soulwarrior @ Aug 30 2010, 08:21 AM) View Post

I'm not saying everyone who buys a jtag does so because of COD. I'm saying I think it's a waste if that's the only reason why you do.


I think people just don't buy them to do it to themselves, but to do it for others so they can profit.  I have no problem with people making money off stupid people that can't play the game legit and will laugh in their face if MS ever bans them for going to lobbies, it would be hilarious someone pays for a lobby then gets their live account banned.  Just play the games legit, that's the whole point so you improve your skill.
Title: Ranting About Those Who Buy Jtags Purely For Modded Lobbies
Post by: Ranger72 on August 30, 2010, 01:43:00 PM
This is the very reason why if some potential customers starts asking about modded lobbies and such I usually end up passing on the job because I believe that is what gives homebrew a bad name.

This is also why if it was up to me there would be no KV buying and selling allowed in the BST forum here.
Title: Ranting About Those Who Buy Jtags Purely For Modded Lobbies
Post by: pirichios on August 30, 2010, 07:30:00 PM
@Ranger72 on the upside those KV's have to run out someday...(hopefully sooner than later)
its truly a shame. I personally dont understand the joy these people get out of boasting something they have not worked hard to earn or the unfair factor of cheap cheesy advantages in a game where its supposed to based on fair competition
Title: Ranting About Those Who Buy Jtags Purely For Modded Lobbies
Post by: jeffrey92 on August 30, 2010, 08:22:00 PM
I have really bittersweet feelings about this.

On one hand, this is the main reason why you can make easy money selling your keyvaults. I bought 10 scrap mobos on ebay, oven baked them for a few hours, and then jtagged the system and made some fast cash.

but on the other hand, it gets really annoying when you offer to jtag a system and then get hammered with questions about game modding. It really pisses me off. One time a guy called me on the phone and talked with me for half an hour about his MW2 money making scheme. Next time I wont be as polite, and just hang up.

It is true, most people dont seem to care about the emulators and homebrew apps. Although to be honest, the only things I care about are moving along very slowly, and while I am glad for the progress that has been made, it is kind of depressing. All I really want my jtag to do is to be able to play games, movies, n64 games, and music right off my hard drive. I think it will get there eventually but it will be a long time before its up to snuff

There has also been an influx of noobs wanting jtags to play the leaked halo reach
Title: Ranting About Those Who Buy Jtags Purely For Modded Lobbies
Post by: relaxxx on August 31, 2010, 06:51:00 AM
I'm up to my eyeballs in JTAG consoles and boards that I cant sell for a decent price or without people asking if they can host lobbies or do I supply MW2 files or some shit. I don't know or care to know anything about that crap. Half the time when I do sell something the fuckers try and double cross me with BS disputes and chargebacks to get their money back.

I'd seriously be better off working at McDonald's than wasting my time with this 360 shit. I can see myself dropping off 200 JTAG boards at the e-cycle depot in a couple months, fuck it all! Selling KV's is the ONLY thing that made me a little bit of money over the past few months, I honestly don't give a shit what they do with it as long as they don't screw me around. I don't use live or even have high speed internet!

This post has been edited by relaxxx: Aug 31 2010, 02:11 PM
Title: Ranting About Those Who Buy Jtags Purely For Modded Lobbies
Post by: Just13d on September 01, 2010, 05:48:00 AM
QUOTE(relaxxx @ Aug 31 2010, 08:51 AM) *

I'm up to my eyeballs in JTAG consoles and boards that I cant sell for a decent price or without people asking if they can host lobbies or do I supply MW2 files or some shit. I don't know or care to know anything about that crap. Half the time when I do sell something the fuckers try and double cross me with BS disputes and chargebacks to get their money back.

I'd seriously be better off working at McDonald's than wasting my time with this 360 shit. I can see myself dropping off 200 JTAG boards at the e-cycle depot in a couple months, fuck it all! Selling KV's is the ONLY thing that made me a little bit of money over the past few months, I honestly don't give a shit what they do with it as long as they don't screw me around. I don't use live or even have high speed internet!



I am not into the Jtag seen at all and all the cheaters on COD really make me angry. My question is with the Jtag consoles can you still use them to stream Media Center content? Also does anyone know if they have emulated Super Techmo Bowl? I would buy one just to play that.
Title: Ranting About Those Who Buy Jtags Purely For Modded Lobbies
Post by: Haygar on September 01, 2010, 06:55:00 AM
QUOTE(jeffrey92 @ Aug 31 2010, 12:22 PM) View Post

There has also been an influx of noobs wanting jtags to play the leaked halo reach

Impatient, spoiled brats dry.gif
Title: Ranting About Those Who Buy Jtags Purely For Modded Lobbies
Post by: truskillzz69 on September 01, 2010, 08:11:00 AM
I got mine recently from a member here but I got it for homebrew, I could care less about stupid COD, I been playing snes/mame(1989 TMNT Ftw wink.gif
Title: Ranting About Those Who Buy Jtags Purely For Modded Lobbies
Post by: juggahax0r on September 10, 2010, 09:26:00 AM
I have actually had customers call me back and start asking me for tech support on lobbies. I just tell them you are on your own if you want to know how to cheat figure it out , it's posted all over the internet use google. One kid literally almost started crying, i almost laughed.
Title: Ranting About Those Who Buy Jtags Purely For Modded Lobbies
Post by: shamrockboy on October 30, 2010, 02:22:00 PM
Yeah the whole MW2 lobby things really disappoints me to no end. I'm also kinda peeved that nobody seems to play on Xlink with all those jtag's currently out there. I would really like to play some MW2 for real instead of just seeing a bunch of private lobbies running. I guess nobody owns a jtag just for gaming. I'm boycotting live because of the price hike and cancelled my membership thinking I would have all the online gaming I need through Xlink, but that hasn't been the case. Oh well, maybe the integrated UI for Xlink on FSD will fix that.
Title: Ranting About Those Who Buy Jtags Purely For Modded Lobbies
Post by: lordvader129 on October 30, 2010, 03:09:00 PM
QUOTE(pirichios @ Aug 29 2010, 11:11 PM) View Post

I am a believer that people can do whatever they want with what they bought, but I agree a 100% with you on the opinion. I remember in the xbox one days the enthusiasm was different, it was more people giving up on xbox live to turn their xbox 1's into media centers or playing classic games on their newly modded system. However I think after 2-3 years of the xbox 360 being considered as a non homebrew friendly system (before the whole jtag thing happened) it drove a lot of the original crowd away.

On the plus side of things hopefully more cool things like fba next will come out, that emu is a powerhouse!

I just wish jtagable systems were a bit easier to find, I like playing homebrew.

that not entirely true about the xb1, i knew a lot more people who bought the most expensive chip they could find, paid someone twice again that much to install it, all so they could buy bootleg games from someone (most never even replaced the MS dash)
Title: Ranting About Those Who Buy Jtags Purely For Modded Lobbies
Post by: steveo1978 on October 30, 2010, 04:52:00 PM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Oct 30 2010, 05:09 PM) *

that not entirely true about the xb1, i knew a lot more people who bought the most expensive chip they could find, paid someone twice again that much to install it, all so they could buy bootleg games from someone (most never even replaced the MS dash)


Also every chip I have seen as it where it can be installed so that the xbox can be boot with the chip off and some softmods allow you to dual boot.

The cheaters in those lobbies are just little spoiled kids that dont really respect anything and that are to lazy to work for anything.
Title: Ranting About Those Who Buy Jtags Purely For Modded Lobbies
Post by: x Yo1nK x on February 03, 2020, 12:29:00 AM
i bought mine although im fully able to jtag a system myself, its just a matter of laziness mixed with apathy.
all i wanted was emulators snes and genesis. and im really curious to see what happens with the PS1 emulator
Title: Ranting About Those Who Buy Jtags Purely For Modded Lobbies
Post by: shamrockboy on October 31, 2010, 11:41:00 AM
QUOTE(steveo1978 @ Oct 30 2010, 11:52 PM) View Post

The cheaters in those lobbies are just little spoiled kids that dont really respect anything and that are to lazy to work for anything.


I totally agree. Gimme Gimme Gimme!!! That's all you ever hear. They think everything will just be handed to them cause they grew up with a silver spoon in their mouth. It's one thing to leech off of others with no contribution and keep quiet, but it's another when you wine and cry about it because your not getting enough. It's kinda sad watching the scene go the way of baby's and lazy MOFO's that don't want to get job's. I miss the day's when it was all about the fun.
Title: Ranting About Those Who Buy Jtags Purely For Modded Lobbies
Post by: ZprivateZ on February 03, 2020, 06:42:00 PM
Yes a sad day indeed without Freeboot being continued because of the cheaters and how they got outta hand with the lobbies. Also means this will possibly end all the great stuff we have seen to date like Freestyle Dash, XM360, Xexmenu just to name a few. All we can do now is give thanks to all the people out there that made what we do have now, and for the time and effort they put in to it all, also enjoy it for as long as it last until we can continue no more without updates. Thanks to all who have given us their best your work doesn't go unappreciated despite what the cheaters have done to ruin things for everyone one.
Title: Ranting About Those Who Buy Jtags Purely For Modded Lobbies
Post by: DJay360 on December 16, 2010, 04:48:00 AM
Completely agree with everything on here really.

<RANT>

I love homebrew for all that makes it great. But every JTAG I have put up for sale has had, what sound like, an 8 year old little chav that has absolutely no idea about the privilege and what an honor it is to have such a rare item.

Besides the fact they can't be bothered to learn and do the project themselves, which I think it half the fun, they then want you to add HDD, install apps, customise COD files FOR THEM and include them in the sale and then they don't even know how to run the lobbies! I actually offered to buy one back off one little prick because he asked me to explain the WHOLE process of lobby hosting after he received the console! Do these knob-eyes just hear about it on the playground, ask mummy n daddy for a load of money and expect everything handed to them?! One lad rang and just said this "I got 200 quid off me mum for a JTAG and I want everything required to do lobbies", to which I just put the phone down.

It got to the point where I didn't even care about making money from selling JTAGs and now I have them piled up ready to sell only to grateful people who see my JTAG and are interested in homebrew. There are plenty of enthusiasts out there like us but they cant get their hands on the JTAGs OR the info because the little faggots have bought and banned all the KVs and if they do look for JTAG info all they get is "MW2 LOBBIES PRESTIGE $9.99" crap everywhere.

I hate them. They are destroying the JTAG scene, its reputation, XLink numbers and the chance for other genuine fans of homebrew to get involved. I hate them all.

</RANT>

On a lighter note anyone who is in the UK and will treat one of my JTAG babies rightly I have some for sale biggrin.gif