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Title: Assembling A Working Xbox360 From Two Broken Ones
Post by: amnya on May 29, 2007, 02:36:00 AM
Hello again guys, hope all is well, i have this small question. If i have two xbox360 with the following states:
1. A new xbox360 but with a broken DVD drive which i wasnt able to read the key from (So xbox is useless) sad.gif = "Woking Mobo"
2. Another xbox360 with three red lights of doom but with a working DVD drive. = "Broken Mobo"

My question is, can i somehow, remove some parts from the xbox#2 and put it on the mobo of xbox#1. Something like removing the eprom chip from the mobo. I suppose the key is written there.

So my theory is, if i take the eprom from that broken motherboard, and place it in that working motherboard, and ofcourse take with it the working DVD drive. Would it work? I think yes, but i need you guys to assure me.

Thanx in advance smile.gif
Title: Assembling A Working Xbox360 From Two Broken Ones
Post by: DrJeckyll on May 29, 2007, 03:03:00 AM
The first one is useless, dump it on ebay.

Fix the second one with a X-clamp replacement.
Title: Assembling A Working Xbox360 From Two Broken Ones
Post by: amnya on May 29, 2007, 03:16:00 AM
QUOTE(DrJeckyll @ May 29 2007, 12:39 PM) View Post

The first one is useless, dump it on ebay.

Fix the second one with a X-clamp replacement.



1. How much would it sell on ebay
2. Can i or can't i take the eprom from the second one and put it in this one? because this useless xbox problem is in the dvd and no key, so if i do the suggested thing, will it work? since they key (i suppose) is in the eprom of the mobo only.

Does it work or not? thanx
Title: Assembling A Working Xbox360 From Two Broken Ones
Post by: DrJeckyll on May 29, 2007, 03:55:00 AM
With a big risk that both 360's become unrepairable.

Either sell the other one or save it for when someone figures out how to extract the code from the motherboard.
Title: Assembling A Working Xbox360 From Two Broken Ones
Post by: amnya on May 29, 2007, 04:54:00 AM
QUOTE(DrJeckyll @ May 29 2007, 01:31 PM) View Post

With a big risk that both 360's become unrepairable.

Either sell the other one or save it for when someone figures out how to extract the code from the motherboard.


Wish someone will figure out how to extract the code from the motherboard, jeez how i'll be happy.
As for the risk, i dont know if its worth taking, but in general, how much would this core console with all its accessories worth on ebay or here, anywhere, dunno. cz i have no idea. it works and gets to the dashboard, and u can play games from a hdd but no dvd. so any ideas about the value of them? thanx smile.gif
Title: Assembling A Working Xbox360 From Two Broken Ones
Post by: DrJeckyll on May 29, 2007, 05:44:00 AM
QUOTE
Wish someone will figure out how to extract the code from the motherboard, jeez how i'll be happy.


You and everybody else with a bricked or broken drive. I wish more people would stop wishing and do more fishing for the code  biggrin.gif
Title: Assembling A Working Xbox360 From Two Broken Ones
Post by: grim_d on May 29, 2007, 08:34:00 AM
QUOTE(DrJeckyll @ May 29 2007, 01:20 PM) View Post

You and everybody else with a bricked or broken drive. I wish more people would stop wishing and do more fishing for the code  biggrin.gif


well i wish more people would stop pissing around with useless hackable dvd firmware and start trying to get some actual homebrew on the go, but we can't all get what we want
Title: Assembling A Working Xbox360 From Two Broken Ones
Post by: DrJeckyll on May 29, 2007, 09:16:00 AM
QUOTE(grim_d @ May 29 2007, 05:10 PM) View Post

well i wish more people would stop pissing around with useless hackable dvd firmware and start trying to get some actual homebrew on the go, but we can't all get what we want


I agree, flashing the firmware everytime can't be good for your drive. When on live you'll run the risk that MS's bans your drive too. In my opinion fight hardware with hardware and install a modchip. It doesn't flash your drive and is easily disabled for XBL. It would save quite some bricked drives too.
Title: Assembling A Working Xbox360 From Two Broken Ones
Post by: ScrewinGates on May 29, 2007, 01:23:00 PM
if the dvd drives r the same just switch the dvd board from the from the bad drive and put it in the good drive.then use the good dvd with the good mother board,then voila,working 360
Title: Assembling A Working Xbox360 From Two Broken Ones
Post by: DrJeckyll on May 29, 2007, 01:59:00 PM
What about the key then? That will only work if the laser's shot.
Title: Assembling A Working Xbox360 From Two Broken Ones
Post by: wellmodded on May 30, 2007, 01:04:00 AM
QUOTE(ScrewinGates @ May 29 2007, 04:29 PM) View Post

if the dvd drives r the same just switch the dvd board from the from the bad drive and put it in the good drive.then use the good dvd with the good mother board,then voila,working 360


he write VOILA and u have a A 3.0ghz cpu and gpu that cna only play cd and dvd biggrin.gif gotta love tht much power jus tto watch dvds smile.gif lol
Title: Assembling A Working Xbox360 From Two Broken Ones
Post by: amnya on May 30, 2007, 02:53:00 AM
QUOTE(wellmodded @ May 30 2007, 10:40 AM) View Post

he write VOILA and u have a A 3.0ghz cpu and gpu that cna only play cd and dvd biggrin.gif gotta love tht much power jus tto watch dvds smile.gif lol


So it wont work, right? i mean you cannot and will now have a working xbox360 that plays dvd GAMES originals and copies if hacked, right? just wont work

QUOTE(Joust @ May 29 2007, 06:01 PM) View Post

#1 If you do list it, please detail the problem. I bought one box from a guy that was advertised as unopened working 100%. turned out to be a bricked hitachi DVD with all numbers wipped off the label, the motherboard had its eeprom Removed as well. so it only gave a red light on the power block.
The Bastard lives in Mississuaga and his Ebay ID is ourfuture01
Not suggesting you do this sort of thing

#2 The eprom cannot be moved from one 360motherboard to the next withough the key from the CPU.
Or were you suggesting putting the eprom from your DVD #1  onto the other DVD #2 so you can get its key for Xbox#1. This would work. but you risk bricking both of them. I wouldn't try it unless there were the same make model and rev.


#1 My xbox360 IS opened, motherboard is untouched, only the DVD drive is bricked, when i tried to flash it, i heard a voice and smell of a burnt chip. Ever since my flash reads 040 instead of 020 and hangs on 00%. So just put everything back together and got another 360. Anyways, this 360 works 100% to dashboard and plays games from HDD, its unbanned and there is no problem with the mobo. Just the DVD is bricked.
#2 As for the eprom, i understand you say it wont work coz of the cpu, well ok, if i remove the cpu, gpu and flash from th mem, will it work then? cz you see am selling this xbox to someone who wants to try this, and i dnt want to sell him if it wont work the 1st place, so am asking here to first make sure it DOES work and then i would sell him with some piece of mind that if it ddnt then HE did sth wrong and not that I am a bastard as "ourfuture01".

Any ideas if #1 how much would it sell for with all accessories and #2 if it works? thaaanx smile.gif

QUOTE(DrJeckyll @ May 29 2007, 03:20 PM) View Post

You and everybody else with a bricked or broken drive. I wish more people would stop wishing and do more fishing for the code  biggrin.gif


If i knew where to look or what to start with, i WOULD gladly start searching, but i have no idea or knowledge of what do i have to know in order to start tracing this. I do though suggest from time to time of possible ways that microsoft might be using to detect hacks. So i am helping where i can, if someone can give me more skills that might help us all in the future, am more than happy to learn.

Cheers
Title: Assembling A Working Xbox360 From Two Broken Ones
Post by: DrJeckyll on May 30, 2007, 03:43:00 AM
I believe the ID/key may be elsewhere on the board. Possibly on the sticker behind the RF-board. I found some similairities between the code and my ID. I only think that it's just luck.

Wish I had more ID's to fumble with. There's probably some checksum you have to add to the code or some logical operations.
Title: Assembling A Working Xbox360 From Two Broken Ones
Post by: amnya on June 04, 2007, 06:37:00 AM
QUOTE(DrJeckyll @ May 30 2007, 01:19 PM) View Post

I believe the ID/key may be elsewhere on the board. Possibly on the sticker behind the RF-board. I found some similairities between the code and my ID. I only think that it's just luck.

Wish I had more ID's to fumble with. There's probably some checksum you have to add to the code or some logical operations.


Hmm, nice... i will check if i can dig into this one, since i have a couple of x360s in hand, thanx for the notice, if anything comes up, i will let you know
Title: Assembling A Working Xbox360 From Two Broken Ones
Post by: DrJeckyll on June 04, 2007, 07:25:00 AM
I think Microsoft uses a program that can flash the drive via the Dashboard or something. This way the employees do not have to dig for the code which is encrypted in the cpu.
Title: Assembling A Working Xbox360 From Two Broken Ones
Post by: l0tics on June 04, 2007, 08:24:00 AM
Why not send the dvd drive to someone on here that can manually extract the key?
Title: Assembling A Working Xbox360 From Two Broken Ones
Post by: amnya on July 28, 2007, 04:09:00 PM
QUOTE(l0tics @ Jun 4 2007, 06:00 PM) View Post

Why not send the dvd drive to someone on here that can manually extract the key?


How can i manually extracy the key? As "angry_rabbit" once said:

<Quote>
If sst 39sf020 is disabled, no chip or lost power due to bad vcc trick use, Mtkflash reports sst25vf040. The other clue is e65 error rom has failed to function because f/w flash (sst 39sf020) cannot be seen by mt1359se!
</Quote>

So how can i  manually do that? If i could send it to you guys and u'd extract it for me that would've been great, but the problem is that i dont live in the US and so its almost impossible to use any hand but mine. And ur brains smile.gif Wish someone can help me out here. I already got another box but i want to fix this one and sell it.

I tried finding a way to get the key out of other sticker number on the back of the drive but nothing seems to work. Wish i can put my hands on some kind of keygen microsoft uses to make the key. Its for sure linked to the xbox serial. but cant seem to know what. If anyone finds any kind of huristic way or any solution for me to get the key out of this rived, please PM me or email me on [email protected] I dont know why i dnt get any emails when u guys reply to my posts, thought i set all the settings in my profile to send. Strange.

Thanx in advance guys smile.gif