Post by: Xbox-Scene on April 19, 2007, 09:03:00 PM
Xbox 360 HDD Transfer Cable in the Wild Posted by XanTium | April 19 22:27 EST | News Category: Xbox360 |
| Some pictures of the Xbox360 HDD Transfer Cable have been posted on the net ... this cable should come with the upcoming 120GB HDD addon (afaik it doesn't come with the Xbox360 Elite) so you can transfer data from your 'old' 20GB HDD to the new 120GB HDD. (IMG:http://pictures.xbox-scene.com/xbox360/transfer-hdd/100_5021_s200.jpg) (IMG:http://pictures.xbox-scene.com/xbox360/transfer-hdd/100_5022_s200.jpg) |
Post by: darkmike57 on April 19, 2007, 08:27:00 PM
Post by: eatshitanddie on April 19, 2007, 08:38:00 PM
Post by: WildMonkeys on April 19, 2007, 08:39:00 PM
Oh and it kind of looks like a thick cable... too thick for a USB connector (just personal experience hah) maybe leading to an adapter that fits under the HDD on the 360? Maybe it acts as a SATA splitter? oh, but idk if that's even possible.
This post has been edited by WildMonkeys: Apr 20 2007, 03:41 AM
Post by: XanTium on April 19, 2007, 08:10:00 PM
QUOTE(eatshitanddie @ Apr 20 2007, 04:09 AM) 
Oh pimp! Official Xplorer360 cable!! lol i like that design, is it usb?
Sadly the guy didn't take a picture of how it connects to the 360, but yeah ... my best guess is that it connects via USB.
Post by: Psygnosis on April 19, 2007, 08:47:00 PM
Post by: quenlin on April 19, 2007, 09:23:00 PM
Ever notice that whenever someone takes an exclusive picture or shoots video of an unseen hack, mod, or other 'secret' device, that person always seems to have the most primitive equipment? They shoot their demo video of a backup being booted or a new dashboard or hack and it's on a 19 inch tube TV from the late eighties and the room is a complete disaster and mess. Anyone besides me ever wonder about this? Why would someone own both an X360 and a 20.00 TV?
Post by: malignantmartyr on April 19, 2007, 09:08:00 PM
QUOTE(quenlin @ Apr 20 2007, 03:54 AM)
Just a random observation
Ever notice that whenever someone takes an exclusive picture or shoots video of an unseen hack, mod, or other 'secret' device, that person always seems to have the most primitive equipment? They shoot their demo video of a backup being booted or a new dashboard or hack and it's on a 19 inch tube TV from the late eighties and the room is a complete disaster and mess. Anyone besides me ever wonder about this? Why would someone own both an X360 and a 20.00 TV?
dont diss it....for a while i had an old tv like that...but it was with my old xbox when it first came out....it was more important than buying the tv, i could always upgrade me tv lol.
Post by: flashfreak on April 19, 2007, 09:49:00 PM
Seriously, this cable, while necessary, is pointless after it has been used.
Post by: CollinstheClown on April 19, 2007, 09:21:00 PM
My biggest problem, and yes it's an OCD type thing, is the fact that all the "newer" HDDs have that dull lame grey plastic. My HDD from my Jan. 07 premium has a nicer, darker, and shinier grey plastic.
Hmmm.. with this news of Elite products being released early I might just swing by Wal-mart later and see if someone will sell it to me!
-CollinstheClown
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on April 19, 2007, 09:26:00 PM
QUOTE(flashfreak @ Apr 20 2007, 01:20 PM)
This device, well its kinda lame. You would only use it once, probably EVER. I think they should have a little transferring station setup at game stores. Pop the 20gig on the left, 120 on the right and press a button. Only problem is how long it would take.
Seriously, this cable, while necessary, is pointless after it has been used.
yeah, but im sure there will be other sues for it in the future
and we should think ourselves lucky m$ made one at all
Post by: Tiuk on April 19, 2007, 10:33:00 PM
QUOTE(quenlin @ Apr 19 2007, 10:54 PM) 
Just a random observation
Ever notice that whenever someone takes an exclusive picture or shoots video of an unseen hack, mod, or other 'secret' device, that person always seems to have the most primitive equipment? They shoot their demo video of a backup being booted or a new dashboard or hack and it's on a 19 inch tube TV from the late eighties and the room is a complete disaster and mess. Anyone besides me ever wonder about this? Why would someone own both an X360 and a 20.00 TV?
Hey, some people are poor students. My next purchase is going to be a nice 37" LCD TV, but I've been using a 25" CRT for quite some time. And I'm not a very tidy person, either (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
In fact, I'd dare to say that most people coming out with console mods and stuff are probably college students, and for most (especially those who don't life at home) that means the cheapest TV you can get and a low cleaning priority (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Post by: zest on April 19, 2007, 11:42:00 PM
Post by: phrozenfeonix on April 20, 2007, 12:40:00 AM
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on April 20, 2007, 12:05:00 AM
QUOTE(zest @ Apr 20 2007, 03:49 PM)
Ehm... Is it just me or this thing kinda redicoluse? A thing that you can use ONCE and seems like its gonna cost plenty (even thou it MIGHT come with the package to the 120Gb its not gonna be free). I mean is this realy the best solution M$ could come up with?? WOuldnt it been easier and cheaper to let ppl transfer there data to there local PC? Oh well i guess money makeing maniac strikes again
the reason why they don't do that is restrictions with the content that you download.
Post by: The Zep Man on April 20, 2007, 12:36:00 AM
QUOTE(ferrari_rulz_02 @ Apr 20 2007, 08:12 AM)
the reason why they don't do that is restrictions with the content that you download.
Post by: bucko on April 20, 2007, 04:00:00 AM
Post by: DrPepperFan15 on April 20, 2007, 06:56:00 AM
But I would like to know how much this thing is... I'm not in for the Elite 360 since the equipment to even use the HDMI is expensive enough I still need to buy a damn $800 hdtv so anyways back on the subject at hand. Theres really no reason why microsoft should charge more for this little sata cable when it shouldve been included with the already overlycharge HDD.
Post by: 0794 on April 20, 2007, 08:28:00 AM
Post by: 89c4l98 on April 20, 2007, 08:21:00 AM
QUOTE(quenlin @ Apr 19 2007, 11:24 PM)
Just a random observation
Why would someone own both an X360 and a 20.00 TV?
I dont have this problem
Post by: tabicat on April 20, 2007, 12:21:00 PM
QUOTE(Psygnosis @ Apr 19 2007, 09:18 PM)
Content is tied to the system anyway and not the storage device, a transfer cable wouldn't do any good on getting XBLA stuff working right on an elite.
Actually, you can't be sure about that. One of the things I've been hoping to find out is if the transfer cable will also (somehow) re-authorizes your XBLA stuff on the new console.
Post by: DoOZer79 on April 20, 2007, 12:56:00 PM
Post by: gaming fanboy on April 20, 2007, 01:16:00 PM
Post by: makavelif50 on April 20, 2007, 03:04:00 PM
Post by: Mr Invader on April 20, 2007, 04:08:00 PM
note: i do hope though, that its included with the 360 elite, or an affordable price like $30
Post by: eatshitanddie on April 20, 2007, 03:41:00 PM
QUOTE(Mr Invader @ Apr 20 2007, 05:39 PM)
I don't care if this is seperate or how much it costs(relatively). Anyone who is going to buy a 360 elite that has a 360 already needs this. I wouldn't want to pay for the microtransactions all over again.
note: i do hope though, that its included with the 360 elite, or an affordable price like $30
You don't have to pay for them again, just goto the download, and re-download it, they will NOT make you repay, or goto recent downloads in account management from the marketplace blade. easy.
Post by: soul-assassin on April 20, 2007, 04:30:00 PM
(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/bsaiscool/ilmxbox360elitesystem002.jpg)
And 89c4l98, mine's bigger than yours! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/bsaiscool/100_4490.jpg)
Post by: Mr Invader on April 20, 2007, 04:03:00 PM
QUOTE(soul-assassin @ Apr 20 2007, 05:01 PM)
Is it just me, or does that cable look like the one used to pull digital audio from the Elite seperately from the HDMI? It looks just like it, only turned on it's side. Perhaps that cable does double duty. Here's a pic of all the crap you get that's posted on xbox.com. I circled the cable in question
yes, you would be right, that cable is for those simple-folk who don't have beautiful 5.1 digital surround sound but have a dvi or vga input on their display.
QUOTE(eatshitanddie @ Apr 20 2007, 04:48 PM)
You don't have to pay for them again, just goto the download, and re-download it, they will NOT make you repay, or goto recent downloads in account management from the marketplace blade. easy.
do you know this for a fact?, i've heard differently from other people.
Post by: soul-assassin on April 20, 2007, 04:55:00 PM
QUOTE(Mr Invader @ Apr 20 2007, 03:10 PM)
yes, you would be right, that cable is for those simple-folk who don't have beautiful 5.1 digital surround sound but have a dvi or vga input on their display.
I think you're misunderstanding what I was trying to say. The point I'm trying to make is that it looks like the cable IS included with the Elite, contrary to the original post in this thread. And that this particular cable, from what I see looks like it pulls double duty not only for audio, but as the transfer cable from old 20gig to new 120gig HDs. I guess we'll all find out next week.
This post has been edited by soul-assassin: Apr 20 2007, 11:58 PM
Post by: Casper1786 on April 20, 2007, 04:52:00 PM
QUOTE(Mr Invader @ Apr 20 2007, 04:10 PM)
do you know this for a fact?, i've heard differently from other people.
All Payed Downloads are signed twice, once for the XBL account Used allowing that profile to use those payed downloads on any system as long as the account is connected to XBL and a second signature is made signing it for the machine you used to download it, that way all profiles on that 360 can enjoy it, for example XBLA titles an such, so if you were to buy another 360 like the elite you can use all your payed downloads on the elite ONLY through your XBL account you used to buy the content, this cable won't "resign" the content during the transfer to the new console, this would just completly break the point of signing the files as you could then easily work around it, then comes "piracy" of XBL content, MS has thought this through
QUOTE(soul-assassin @ Apr 20 2007, 04:26 PM)
I think you're misunderstanding what I was trying to say. The point I'm trying to make is that it looks like the cable IS included with the Elite, contrary to the original post in this thread. And that this particular cable, from what I see looks like it pulls double duty not only for audio, but as the transfer cable from old 20gig to new 120gig HDs. I guess we'll all find out next week.
I dunno but if u compare the pics of the 2 cables you speak of, the HDD transfer cable looks to be longer and are you suggesting that the 360 accepts Data into the system through it's analog video output? gonna go with no
Post by: dogdirt2000 on April 20, 2007, 07:22:00 PM
Post by: Mr Invader on April 20, 2007, 08:24:00 PM
QUOTE
In announcing the Japanese launch of the 120 GB Xbox 360 hard drive, a Microsoft Japan press release revealed some additional information about migration of content: most notably, that the data from two 20 GB drives cannot be combined onto one 120 GB drive.
I've translated the pertinent part of the press release:
* You can only move data from the 20GB Hard Disk to the 120 GB Hard Disk. Transferring data in the other direction, or any other combination, is not possible.
* Any data stored on the 120 GB hard disk will be automatically deleted.
* Any data stored on the 20 GB hard disk will be automatically deleted after it is moved over.
* You cannot put the data from two or more 20 GB hard disks onto one 120 GB hard disk. If you attempt to move multiple drives, only the last one you move will be stored.
* Once you move the data over, it cannot be placed back on the original hard disk.
I've translated the pertinent part of the press release:
* You can only move data from the 20GB Hard Disk to the 120 GB Hard Disk. Transferring data in the other direction, or any other combination, is not possible.
* Any data stored on the 120 GB hard disk will be automatically deleted.
* Any data stored on the 20 GB hard disk will be automatically deleted after it is moved over.
* You cannot put the data from two or more 20 GB hard disks onto one 120 GB hard disk. If you attempt to move multiple drives, only the last one you move will be stored.
* Once you move the data over, it cannot be placed back on the original hard disk.
QUOTE(soul-assassin @ Apr 20 2007, 05:26 PM)
I think you're misunderstanding what I was trying to say. The point I'm trying to make is that it looks like the cable IS included with the Elite, contrary to the original post in this thread. And that this particular cable, from what I see looks like it pulls double duty not only for audio, but as the transfer cable from old 20gig to new 120gig HDs. I guess we'll all find out next week.
oooh, doubt it. VERY much doubt it. These are some up-close images of the cable "in question"
edit: sorry that the pictures are so big, they were the first ones i found
Post by: BoNg420 on April 20, 2007, 09:24:00 PM
the cable comes with the new HDD, im not gonna opent it though, im selling it on ebay or returning it.
(IMG:http://memberuploads.xbox-scene.com/uploads/2007_04_21/04_54_24_IMG_2213.JPG)
(IMG:http://memberuploads.xbox-scene.com/uploads/2007_04_21/04_54_44_IMG_2228.JPG)
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=599167
Post by: troyBORG on April 20, 2007, 09:57:00 PM
And i checked and yes the official Microsoft adapter will work with Xport (atleast).
I would try to 120gb but it is in my 360 right now.
It took about 1hr and 30min to transfer all my data.
Post by: eatshitanddie on April 21, 2007, 11:20:00 AM
(IMG:http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3639/ahahahaqb6.png)
HaHa, that was your pic u sent me TroyBorg..
lol i feel awkward.
This post has been edited by eatshitanddie: Apr 21 2007, 06:20 PM
Post by: Mr Invader on April 21, 2007, 08:47:00 PM
At least we know its 100% for real. Now theres just the question of it coming with the 360 elite. I hope they've revised the elite accessories so it does.
edit: does anyone know if they added it to the 360 elite package, or how i can buy one seperately?
This post has been edited by Mr Invader: Apr 22 2007, 03:50 AM
Post by: soul-assassin on April 22, 2007, 07:16:00 AM
Hello!
Thank you for writing Xbox Customer Support!
I do apologize for the inconvenience. I understand that you want to know if the migration cable that will be use to transfer files from the xbox 360 Hard drive to the Hard drive of the xbox 360 Elite will be included in the package. Unfortunately, the cable will be sold separately from the xbox 360 Elite package. The package includes the following:
- A 120 GB hard drive
- One high-definition multimedia interface (HDMI) port
- One high definition (HD) cable
- A premium black finish on the console
- One black Xbox 360 Wireless Controller
- One black Xbox 360 Wireless Headset
For further assistance, please don't hesitate to write back or call Xbox Phone Support at your earliest convenience, and we will be happy to help you.
Xbox Customer Support Hotline: 1-800-4MY-XBOX (1-800-469-9269)
International (direct dial to U.S.): 425-635-7180
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Good News! You may link your console to your Windows Live ID, and check repair status online at the web site: http://service.xbox.com
Sincerely,
Nicka
Xbox Customer Care Team
This post has been edited by soul-assassin: Apr 22 2007, 02:18 PM
Post by: umop-apisdn on April 22, 2007, 02:39:00 PM
But I guess that would've been too easy.
This post has been edited by umop-apisdn: Apr 22 2007, 09:40 PM
Post by: ben1989 on April 22, 2007, 03:42:00 PM
QUOTE(89c4l98 @ Apr 20 2007, 03:28 PM)
I dont have this problem
ooooooooo is that the 56"er lol i have that telly
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on April 22, 2007, 07:08:00 PM
QUOTE(umop-apisdn @ Apr 23 2007, 06:10 AM)
Microsoft should have just placed a normal A-B type USB plug in all the 120GB HDDs for transfer. Everyone with a computer would have the cable already. Then they would provide the software on their site like they do with the BC updates.
But I guess that would've been too easy.
would that work though? the hard drives are SATA, not USB
Post by: druidknight on April 22, 2007, 09:07:00 PM
Note, before doing the data transfer to the 120GB I used my xport 360 to create an image of my original 20GB drive and then once the transfer was complete I used the xport to re-image my 20GB drive back to the condition before transfer. So I am now able to swap the 20GB drive back onto the 360 and use it as it was if I need to and I used this to test the speed difference. It takes the 20GB 7 or 8 seconds to count up 25 arcade titles and the 120GB takes only 2 seconds to count 31 titles (some demos and videos are installed on the new drive during the transfer session).
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on April 24, 2007, 03:24:00 PM
QUOTE(druidknight @ Apr 23 2007, 12:38 PM)
I just finished installing my 120GB Hard Drive and was wondering if anyone else who has one has noticed a speed increase in load times? I mainly tested Live Arcade titles. I first noticed it when chosing Arcade Games and the count of available titles pops up. It counted them up significantly faster, normally I can read the numbers as it checks the drive, but now it counts faster than I can read jumping from 1 to 31 titles in 2 seconds. I also tested the recent mini golf demo and the load screens between holes was noticably faster as well. I don't know if this is due to the drive model, or if maybe a defrag was performed during the data transfer session, but it IS a noticable difference. Maybe someone can investigate this further.
well its good to ehar that it is faster. the 20gig model was starting to get on my nerves as it was taking so long.
i think the speed might be due to different brands. wait and see i guess, if yours slows down, then we know its because of fragmentation
Post by: razor1394 on September 20, 2007, 12:02:00 PM
According to MS the HDD/cable/PC may get damaged when connecting the transfer cable and X360 HDD to a PC. It's bs right?
Post by: JAYNO20 on September 23, 2007, 07:37:00 PM
Post by: Dim7 on October 12, 2008, 04:40:00 AM
Post by: Arakon on October 12, 2008, 11:37:00 PM
it's a standard jmicron USB-SATA adapter.