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Title: Xbox360 Incompatible with new Apple Airport Extreme
Post by: Xbox-Scene on February 07, 2007, 11:03:00 AM
Xbox360 Incompatible with new Apple Airport Extreme
Posted by XanTium | February 7 12:27 EST
 
From tuaw.com:
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TUAW reader Bryan Hughes writes in to tell us that after many unsuccessful attempts, he was unable to connect wirelessly to his Xbox 360 via Airport Extreme. [Apple's new 802.11a/b/g/pre-n wireless base station]

The Xbox 360 apparently will not recognize any network with security, whether WEP or WPA and Microsoft's tech support apparently is telling customers that Apple routers are not recommended.

Full Story: tuaw.com

Title: Xbox360 Incompatible with new Apple Airport Extreme
Post by: Skript0r on February 07, 2007, 10:32:00 AM
Heh, sounds like a familiar story for anyone with Comcast Home Networking. Our 'customized firmware' makes those gateways incompatible with 360s (unless you have an RCA brand), PS3s (unless you turn off WEP all together) and Wiis. Since when do wireless standards not really have to be standards compliant?
Title: Xbox360 Incompatible with new Apple Airport Extreme
Post by: quall on February 07, 2007, 10:51:00 AM
Can this be said with all secure network devices? I didn't know that the 360 supported any kind of encryption. Never really looked though. Wouldn't the apple device work if you just disabled authentication?
Title: Xbox360 Incompatible with new Apple Airport Extreme
Post by: rossmac on February 07, 2007, 10:52:00 AM
oh for fucks sake!! i already purchased one of these for the storage device sharing and now i cant use the 360 wirelessly? i guess i could take off sharing and then just enable mac address filtering...
Title: Xbox360 Incompatible with new Apple Airport Extreme
Post by: Trex666 on February 07, 2007, 10:58:00 AM
That wont stop me from sniffing and viewing the wireless data though. MAC addresses can only slow down a hacker not stop him, plus there are plenty of other ways anyhow
Title: Xbox360 Incompatible with new Apple Airport Extreme
Post by: crasher0255 on February 07, 2007, 10:59:00 AM
QUOTE(quall @ Feb 7 2007, 12:22 PM) *
Can this be said with all secure network devices? I didn't know that the 360 supported any kind of encryption. Never really looked though. Wouldn't the apple device work if you just disabled authentication?


Nope he's gotta just be talking about those new Apple Airport Extreme ive been using my 360 on a WEP secured network since launch (Linksys router)
Title: Xbox360 Incompatible with new Apple Airport Extreme
Post by: R-Dawggy Dawg on February 07, 2007, 10:33:00 AM
yea rightt....

theres a script written in the 360 that confirms the make of the router and says "F*CK APPLE"

M$ luv for ya wink.gif
Title: Xbox360 Incompatible with new Apple Airport Extreme
Post by: anttimonty on February 07, 2007, 11:23:00 AM
So let me get this clear X360 own USB WLAN adapter isn't compatible with WEP or WPA encryption?

This post has been edited by anttimonty: Feb 7 2007, 07:24 PM
Title: Xbox360 Incompatible with new Apple Airport Extreme
Post by: knepley on February 07, 2007, 11:04:00 AM
QUOTE(anttimonty @ Feb 7 2007, 05:54 PM) View Post

So let me get this clear X360 own USB WLAN adapter isn't compatible with WEP or WPA encryption?


http://www.xbox.com/...workadapter.htm

QUOTE
Enable wireless security on your router or access point. Your wireless networking adapter supports WPA and WEP security.


Something is wrong with the other hardware, the USB WLAN is fine.
Title: Xbox360 Incompatible with new Apple Airport Extreme
Post by: Software2 on February 07, 2007, 11:34:00 AM
Rule #1: Nothing Apple should ever be connected to anything related to MS.

(Looks over at iPod... CRAP)   unsure.gif
Title: Xbox360 Incompatible with new Apple Airport Extreme
Post by: FUCKMICROSOFT on February 07, 2007, 12:21:00 PM
why did this make frontpage???

useless.... i'm sure that there are other routers that are incompatable... so wtf?/

Title: Xbox360 Incompatible with new Apple Airport Extreme
Post by: heydricas on February 07, 2007, 12:26:00 PM
actually the airport extreme is the incompatible one. xbox 360 arrived first...
Title: Xbox360 Incompatible with new Apple Airport Extreme
Post by: gehx on February 07, 2007, 12:40:00 PM
yet another reason to NOT go w/ the x360 usb wifi adapter and buy a brand or generic wireless bridge.
Title: Xbox360 Incompatible with new Apple Airport Extreme
Post by: quall on February 07, 2007, 12:55:00 PM
From reading the comments on the news site, previous apple routers worked fine.
Title: Xbox360 Incompatible with new Apple Airport Extreme
Post by: gg22mm on February 07, 2007, 12:35:00 PM
QUOTE(heydricas @ Feb 7 2007, 01:57 PM) View Post

actually the airport extreme is the incompatible one. xbox 360 arrived first...


That's exactly what I was thinking... The news should read "Apple's new router is incompatible with the Xbox360"  dry.gif
Title: Xbox360 Incompatible with new Apple Airport Extreme
Post by: lowendfrequency on February 07, 2007, 01:11:00 PM
Well DUH!  If compatibility is important then don't go buying apple products. Incompatibility is apple's game. It keeps customers buying apple made or apple related products.
Title: Xbox360 Incompatible with new Apple Airport Extreme
Post by: TreFacTor on February 07, 2007, 01:42:00 PM
QUOTE(snsr @ Feb 7 2007, 03:19 PM) View Post

1. A $100 USB WiFi adapter should connect to your f**king refrigerator if you want it to.

2. Anyone duped into buying a $100 USB wifi adapter from MS is asking for it, imo.

1)you don't have to buy a $100 USB wifi adapter from MS, you can use a cheap d-link or some other alternative... almost any setup other than an apple wifi will work. what have you been reading? or better yet smoking, it seems to have given you double vision... let me have some.
2) ms offers you their perripheral, so that you can have something that is hassel free, and COMPATIBLE without hassle, it's your inexperience (which shows greatly by the way) or lack of knowledeg (see afformentioned parenthesis) that makes it nessecary in the first place.
Title: Xbox360 Incompatible with new Apple Airport Extreme
Post by: TheIrishLad on February 07, 2007, 02:59:00 PM
QUOTE(TreFacTor @ Feb 7 2007, 02:49 PM) View Post

.... or lack of knowledeg ...

Nice wink.gif

I'd say that most consumers are exactly that, consumers, and so if they want their Xbox 360 wireless they won't research on what you could use for less money, they will go out and buy the readily available M$ adaptor.  

So for those "consumer" people who want to use this router as a wireless hub for their Xbox 360 are affected by it.  Granted it is probably a very small portion of people.

Realize that as crazy as it sounds, most people aren't you, so before you come here and say something like "Only stupid people buy the 360 Wireless adaptor for $100 when they could have gotten such and such for $50 less."  You must understand that most people either don't care, or there time is more valuable then coming to a site like this and researching how to buy a cheaper Wireless adaptor bridge that works as good as the M$ one.  Unless you enjoy hoisting your own superiority over others to make yourself feel good, in which case, go ahead biggrin.gif

You can't expect middle aged parents to stroll around XS looking for compatible wireless bridges for their 360 can you?  I wouldn't. happy.gif

Title: Xbox360 Incompatible with new Apple Airport Extreme
Post by: snsr on February 07, 2007, 04:49:00 PM
QUOTE

1)you don't have to buy a $100 USB wifi adapter from MS, you can use a cheap d-link or some other alternative... almost any setup other than an apple wifi will work. what have you been reading? or better yet smoking, it seems to have given you double vision... let me have some.
2) ms offers you their perripheral, so that you can have something that is hassel free, and COMPATIBLE without hassle, it's your inexperience (which shows greatly by the way) or lack of knowledeg (see afformentioned parenthesis) that makes it nessecary in the first place.



Sounds to me like maybe you bought that $100 adapter :)
Title: Xbox360 Incompatible with new Apple Airport Extreme
Post by: Math1 on February 07, 2007, 05:45:00 PM
My MS-made Xbox 360 wireless adapter (and yes I paid for it -- because I knew 100% that it would work seamlessly) works seamlessly on my secured network. Why anyone would pay Apple's prices for something like Airport eludes me, but clearly they are doing something wrong no one else is doing as my 360 talks perfectly well with my LinkSys N router/WAP with security on, just like it did with my previous NetGear setup.
Title: Xbox360 Incompatible with new Apple Airport Extreme
Post by: TreFacTor on February 08, 2007, 06:48:00 AM
QUOTE(snsr @ Feb 7 2007, 06:56 PM) View Post

Sounds to me like maybe you bought that $100 adapter smile.gif

no, I bought a generic ethernet bridge. can't even remember the name of it. I just know first hand from helping  others using the ms-740. There was actually a tutorial for the original xbox for wireless networking in the tut section, me just being savy, I read up on networking and learned. As was mentioned previously, most people are consumers, only about 8-10% of people who actually purchse a game system would ever think of coming to this site to learn anything, much less:wireless networking, ethernet bridges, dhcp, access points, signal repeaters, or for that matter anything on hacking consoles in general and as such would not be privy to the vast amount of information this site provides. I just happend to reasearch, because I'm not one of the few who can spend that kind of money. I have to wait at least a year after the console is launched in order to make an informed descision on which console to buy.


sorry 4 the  rant. nuff respect.
Title: Xbox360 Incompatible with new Apple Airport Extreme
Post by: Tony42077 on February 08, 2007, 03:08:00 PM
The reason why the xbox adapter is so expensive is because it supports the wireless 'A' standard. For someone that lives in an apartment building with numerous wireless networks (18 in mine) of both B and G, the adoption of the less used 'A' frequency makes it worth it. Although it does not have the theoretical bandwidth of 'G', the sleek design and lack of interference with other networks makes it well worth it.

This is news worthy for 2 reasons. 1) Apple is arguably one of the top manufacturers of consumer electronic devices, with a fanbase that thinks that it can do no wrong. There really is no reason why their new router should not work with the 360. This article will probably stop hundreds of 360 owners from buying this router, saving a lot of time and hassle. 2) Not everyone has the time to sift through all of the pages of the forum to find out different tidbits of info. I personally only use the forum when I'm having a problem, or to comment on a news story.
Title: Xbox360 Incompatible with new Apple Airport Extreme
Post by: fuerio on February 09, 2007, 09:34:00 AM
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