Post by: Xbox-Scene on February 02, 2007, 08:28:00 AM
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Post by: Axl_Mas on February 02, 2007, 07:12:00 AM
Post by: bucko on February 02, 2007, 07:21:00 AM
QUOTE(Axl_Mas @ Feb 2 2007, 02:19 PM) 
It means that the next 360 version will have lower temperatures?
Not by much, you can fit more processors on a wafer, making it more efficient for MS.
Post by: Landlocked on February 02, 2007, 08:07:00 AM
Post by: NoFace on February 02, 2007, 07:49:00 AM
QUOTE(Landlocked @ Feb 2 2007, 03:38 PM)
Won't these consume considerably less power too?
Think so.
Post by: itchy on February 02, 2007, 08:09:00 AM
Post by: HamSandwhich on February 02, 2007, 08:56:00 AM
Post by: the soul poet on February 02, 2007, 10:01:00 AM
QUOTE(HamSandwhich @ Feb 2 2007, 04:03 PM) 
I hope they do this before my warranty runs out, cos I'm going to suffocate my 360 with a pillow in the night!
That's murder, you'll go down now for confessing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Post by: vengeancegoon on February 02, 2007, 09:29:00 AM
QUOTE(HamSandwhich @ Feb 2 2007, 05:03 PM)
I hope they do this before my warranty runs out, cos I'm going to suffocate my 360 with a pillow in the night!
Hahaha, great idea, I think I might drown mine in coke
Post by: Enygma on February 02, 2007, 09:50:00 AM
With Sony's PS3 not selling very well, MS has little incentive to lower prices. But since MS isn't losing money on every box they sell, they might lower the price to force Sony to lower theirs. End result.... MS sells more systems while making a profit, and Sony sells more systems while losing more money.
I used to work in retail... so those who purposely damage their game systems to get a newer replacement can go to hell. It causes more time and effort for the stores, plus it ends up increasing prices of what you buy.
Post by: TheIrishLad on February 02, 2007, 09:52:00 AM
QUOTE(Enygma @ Feb 2 2007, 10:57 AM)
I used to work in retail... so those who purposely damage their game systems to get a newer replacement can go to hell. It causes more time and effort for the stores, plus it ends up increasing prices of what you buy.
Might as well get some use out of the warranty eh?
Post by: dhrandy1 on February 02, 2007, 11:06:00 AM
Post by: incognegro on February 02, 2007, 11:24:00 AM
QUOTE(Enygma @ Feb 2 2007, 05:57 PM)
Itchy: It doesn't say that the cost of an XBOX 360 will be reduced by $150. It says that the cost of the CPU, northbridge, and graphics chip would be reduced by 30-40%. Which means it now costs less than $150 for those 3 components, compared to $200+ before. So we may possibly see a decrease of $50 or more.
With Sony's PS3 not selling very well, MS has little incentive to lower prices. But since MS isn't losing money on every box they sell, they might lower the price to force Sony to lower theirs. End result.... MS sells more systems while making a profit, and Sony sells more systems while losing more money.
I used to work in retail... so those who purposely damage their game systems to get a newer replacement can go to hell. It causes more time and effort for the stores, plus it ends up increasing prices of what you buy.
Its a little more complicated than that. Sony will most likely switch to 65nm the same time as MS (both CPUs are being manufactured by the same company). So the ps3 will be cheaper too, plus we need to consider how smart sony is when it comes to hardware. They will most likely revise the hardware to a point where it has less parts thus incurring less cost. Now MS has never been a leader in price, the have always been a follower so will it be different this generation? Time will tell...Sony can still surprise us.
Post by: thax on February 02, 2007, 12:27:00 PM
Isuppli states in the old article that a price reduction of 50 dollars through better chip yields over 2006 would be possible.
xbox 360 Premium
Sale Price: 399
Estimated Cost: 475 (Conservative, probably lower through other cost reductions)
Loss: 76
xbox 360 Core
Sale Price: 299
Estimated Cost: 430 (Conservative, probably lower through other cost reductions)
Loss: 131
On the other hand the costs for the PS3 in the article are current.
PS3 Premium
Sale Price: 499
Current Cost: 840.35
Loss: 241.35
PS3 Core:
Sale Price: 599
Current Cost: 805.85
Loss: 306.85
This places the manufacturing cost of the PS3 nearly 400 dollars higher than the x360.
Post by: R-Dawggy Dawg on February 02, 2007, 01:36:00 PM
QUOTE(thax @ Feb 2 2007, 01:58 PM)
This places the manufacturing cost of the PS3 nearly 400 dollars higher than the x360.
Effin BluRay........
Post by: Druggedpolak on February 02, 2007, 03:07:00 PM
QUOTE(epsilon72 @ Feb 2 2007, 04:44 PM)
You got the PS3 core and premium switched around, Thax.
Actually its right. They lose more money on a core because going from 20gb to 60gb in bulk is only a couple of bucks + adding wifi and they sell it for $100 more. I hate the ps3 just because there are only like 3 games for it and the graphics won't be any better than 360/pc
If it had some good games I might envy people lol
Edit: yeah the price is switched now that I reread it. Now I'm confused which loses more money =P
Post by: thax on February 05, 2007, 09:19:00 AM
QUOTE(epsilon72 @ Feb 2 2007, 10:44 PM)
You got the PS3 core and premium switched around, Thax.
You are right, the Core should say 499 and Premium should say 599, however the math all of the numbers are correct; I must have just transposed those two when copying them from the spreadsheet.