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Title: Xbox 360 CPU to Swith to 65nm Next Year
Post by: Xbox-Scene on September 29, 2006, 11:11:00 AM
Xbox 360 CPU to Swith to 65nm Next Year
Posted by XanTium | September 29 13:11 EST

 
From t3.co.uk:
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Murmurs from the more technical corners of the internet suggest Microsoft's about to switch to new processors for the Xbox 360, running cooler to make the machine much more reliable.
The new chips will use a 65nm process to run more efficiently than the console's current 90nm chips.

According to the tech-heads at VNUnet, Microsoft will make the change in the first few months of next year, instantly reducing the temperature inside the Xbox and cutting down the amount of overheating issues experienced by gamers.
Chartered Semiconductor will be responsible for the new chips, and although they're not as advanced as 40nm models in the pipeline from Intel and AMD, they'll still make a big difference.

Read More: t3.co.uk

Title: Xbox 360 CPU to Swith to 65nm Next Year
Post by: xboxexpert on September 29, 2006, 10:25:00 AM
This is a great sign.  I wonder what temps I would get if I were to water cool a 65nm CPU?!

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Title: Xbox 360 CPU to Swith to 65nm Next Year
Post by: knatsch on September 29, 2006, 10:25:00 AM
...and perhaps more quiet?
Title: Xbox 360 CPU to Swith to 65nm Next Year
Post by: R-Dawggy Dawg on September 29, 2006, 10:33:00 AM
soo.. were these things not available at the time of 360's launch? or was M$ just tryin to make things more profitable?
Title: Xbox 360 CPU to Swith to 65nm Next Year
Post by: xboxexpert on September 29, 2006, 10:35:00 AM
QUOTE(R-Dawggy Dawg @ Sep 29 2006, 11:40 AM) *

soo.. were these things not available at the time of 360's launch? or was M$ just tryin to make things more profitable?


Most likely they were not available prelaunch.  They might have been but I cant see them being anything more then then beta stages prelaunch.
Title: Xbox 360 CPU to Swith to 65nm Next Year
Post by: cooljerk_dv on September 29, 2006, 10:39:00 AM
I look forward to buying one of those new black x360's with the cpu revision next year.
Title: Xbox 360 CPU to Swith to 65nm Next Year
Post by: silentbob343 on September 29, 2006, 11:26:00 AM
QUOTE(R-Dawggy Dawg @ Sep 29 2006, 12:40 PM) *

soo.. were these things not available at the time of 360's launch? or was M$ just tryin to make things more profitable?

die shrinks happen all the time and they happen when process effciency and and process technology allow them to.  Actually the new 65nm dies will make thing more proftiable as that increases yeilds per wafer, ie. more chips per silicon wafer.

This post has been edited by silentbob343: Sep 29 2006, 06:28 PM
Title: Xbox 360 CPU to Swith to 65nm Next Year
Post by: troyBORG on September 29, 2006, 11:31:00 AM
QUOTE(cooljerk_dv @ Sep 29 2006, 11:46 AM) *

I look forward to buying one of those new black x360's with the cpu revision next year.


Once I move out on my own I will probally do the same thing.

My old white hot 360 in the basement and the new black 360 next to the gaming tv
(This will probably take like 2years)
Title: Xbox 360 CPU to Swith to 65nm Next Year
Post by: tiberian9 on September 29, 2006, 11:34:00 AM
QUOTE(silentbob343 @ Sep 29 2006, 06:33 PM) *

 Actually the new 65nm dies will make thing more proftiable as that increases yeilds per wafer


Of course the other option is that the profit margin may be maintained at the current levels with a price drop.
A price drop at the begining of next year would be handy for MS as it would increase the pressure on a certain Sony product.
Title: Xbox 360 CPU to Swith to 65nm Next Year
Post by: sidewinder33 on September 29, 2006, 11:37:00 AM
My extended warranty 360 might have issues soon after the 65nm 360s come out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) well worth the $25 extra bucks from eb, and then I'll extend my warranty again, just incase its buggy, but in all honesty, my warrantied  360 is dead and I'm waiting till the 65nm 360's come out to trade it in. I just hope they come before april 07 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: Xbox 360 CPU to Swith to 65nm Next Year
Post by: spinr34 on September 29, 2006, 11:40:00 AM
QUOTE(cooljerk_dv @ Sep 29 2006, 09:46 AM) *

I look forward to buying one of those new black x360's with the cpu revision next year.


whoa whoa, the ones with the new cpu are going to be in different color cases?? if this is true then 2 things i wanted will have come true. i've wanted a black 360 and the next 360 i was going to buy wouldn't be until they revised the cpu.  wow, this could be good. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Title: Xbox 360 CPU to Swith to 65nm Next Year
Post by: silentbob343 on September 29, 2006, 11:45:00 AM
QUOTE(tiberian9 @ Sep 29 2006, 01:41 PM) *

Of course the other option is that the profit margin may be maintained at the current levels with a price drop.
A price drop at the begining of next year would be handy for MS as it would increase the pressure on a certain Sony product.

that is also true and something that they will most likely take advantage of as well.

lol here is an article I sent my brother on April 23:
"Microsoft to upgrade Xbox 360 CPU:  New CPU technology can reduce temperature and lower cost"
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2154491/...grades-xbox-cpu

X-S a little behind the ball

This post has been edited by silentbob343: Sep 29 2006, 06:50 PM
Title: Xbox 360 CPU to Swith to 65nm Next Year
Post by: sidewinder33 on September 29, 2006, 11:59:00 AM
QUOTE(silentbob343 @ Sep 29 2006, 11:52 AM) *

that is also true and something that they will most likely take advantage of as well.

lol here is an article I sent my brother on April 23:
"Microsoft to upgrade Xbox 360 CPU:  New CPU technology can reduce temperature and lower cost"
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2154491/...grades-xbox-cpu

X-S a little behind the ball

Actually XS has known about this rumor for months, its just now official (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

In fact Xs had an article on it in feb of 2004 article about 8 topics down but then it was still known as xbox 2 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Xantium never gets left in the dark.

This post has been edited by sidewinder33: Sep 29 2006, 07:05 PM
Title: Xbox 360 CPU to Swith to 65nm Next Year
Post by: R-Dawggy Dawg on September 29, 2006, 12:12:00 PM
QUOTE(xboxexpert @ Sep 29 2006, 12:42 PM) *

Most likely they were not available prelaunch.  They might have been but I cant see them being anything more then then beta stages prelaunch.


Ah.. I see.. but why not up the ante and throw in another processor? make it like wut, 30-50 bux more?
I NEED MORE POWER!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grr.gif)
Title: Xbox 360 CPU to Swith to 65nm Next Year
Post by: BCfosheezy on September 29, 2006, 12:30:00 PM
QUOTE(R-Dawggy Dawg @ Sep 29 2006, 01:19 PM) *


Ah.. I see.. but why not up the ante and throw in another processor? make it like wut, 30-50 bux more?
I NEED MORE POWER!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grr.gif)


 

Yeah because an entire board redesign would definitely be easy and inexpensive. Not to mention that the software would just automatically take advantage of a second cpu. Someone needs to make you the CEO of something.... does the special olympics have a CEO?