Post by: CajunSniper on August 09, 2006, 05:05:00 AM
keeping it cool and still the error stated the same
SO of my experiance i restore the console to ORIGINAL STATE whit OPA xtream v 2.1 and done, FIX IT
NO ERROR 0021
So the 0021 error is duo to a console Timing out whit the dvd drive and secuense in timing betwen the console that for sure
so
ERROR: 0021 timeout between the console and the dvd drive
reflash your dvd drive to ORIGINAL STATE to fix the problme
y used opa xtream ver 2.1 to flash to original and hacked firmware gain
Ps:0021 Error FIX done it in 2 more Console beside mines and fix the Problem glad i can help
CajunSniper
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Post by: twistedsymphony on August 09, 2006, 06:02:00 AM
Post by: CajunSniper on August 09, 2006, 10:16:00 AM
Post by: gasoau on August 17, 2006, 02:41:00 AM
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Post by: gasoau on August 17, 2006, 05:49:00 AM
Post by: abreuff on October 09, 2006, 04:49:00 PM
Post by: KimA on November 24, 2006, 02:18:00 AM
The error was bad soldering af the southbridge. It was fixed by resoldering the southbridge, with a hot air gun.
Kim A
Post by: Whoricalsmurf on January 16, 2007, 05:01:00 AM
I have the 0021 error and have tried everything possible with out voiding my warranty. I was wondering if it is possible to flash my Xbox 360 without having to void the warranty, apparently according to my friend who works in a gaming store says that there is a way to do so using the USB and some program that the store purchased to update the firmware for ppl that don't have internet and all this is done without voiding the warranty.
I would ask him what the program is called but he is out the country at the moment and i would like to know soon as possible, so just asking here first till he arrives back at work.
thanks
Post by: FallenX on January 16, 2007, 11:53:00 AM
QUOTE(KimA @ Nov 24 2006, 02:49 AM) 
I just fixed a 0021 error. It was NOT the drive.
The error was bad soldering af the southbridge. It was fixed by resoldering the southbridge, with a hot air gun.
Kim A
can someone tell me how use the hotgun i tried following a youtube tutorial i use 400°C and i heat like 5 min and i let it rest 2 hours and the console work but only for 10 min, so i´m thinking that maybe i made something wrong
i wanna try again anyone that can tell me how!!.
Post by: dedzombie on January 16, 2007, 12:18:00 PM
QUOTE(Whoricalsmurf @ Jan 16 2007, 05:32 AM)
Hey
I have the 0021 error and have tried everything possible with out voiding my warranty. I was wondering if it is possible to flash my Xbox 360 without having to void the warranty, apparently according to my friend who works in a gaming store says that there is a way to do so using the USB and some program that the store purchased to update the firmware for ppl that don't have internet and all this is done without voiding the warranty.
I would ask him what the program is called but he is out the country at the moment and i would like to know soon as possible, so just asking here first till he arrives back at work.
thanks
you cant flash a drive without voiding the warrenty, flashing the drive itself voids the warrenty, if you have a warrenty and an error why not just have MS fix it for free?
Post by: bigjimmy on January 16, 2007, 04:46:00 PM
Post by: deekaey on November 10, 2007, 08:45:00 PM
1) Did the DVD drive fix work on an Xbox that has previously been working before with the flashed drive?
It seems like that fix would only fix a 0021 error happening immediately after a flash, not on a system that was running fine.
2) How do you resolder the Southbridge? Do you have to unsolder the chip off the board? How do you do this?
0021 error is destroying my life..
thanks in advance
Post by: omega552003 on December 02, 2007, 01:33:00 AM
I got an xbox with an error of 0102, fixed it by bending the xclamps to give it more tension,but it still locked up while playing games, but no 3rod.
then i decided to just replace the xclamps with bolts, now i get 0021.
Seams like 0102 and 0021 are closely related, dealing with the GPU.
also i noticed that after the 0102 error the fans were running very high
but now with the 0021 the fans ramp up slower, but still get very high.
Post by: omega552003 on December 03, 2007, 02:25:00 PM
i have come to the conclusion that the xbox 360 is the worst designed game console ever
Post by: brandogg on December 03, 2007, 08:15:00 PM
Post by: sgt_deathwrench on January 15, 2008, 04:08:00 PM
Post by: RRoD420 on February 04, 2008, 01:24:00 PM
I bought an xbox on ebay with error 0102. This console has never been opened. So the DVD drive was never modified. I did the heat gun trick and changed the x-clamps (which has worked for me on several consoles) The error code changed to 0021. I unplugged the dvd drive and tried to boot but still error 0021. So my issue has nothing to do with the dvd drive.
I also did concentrate on the southbridge because I read this issue may have something to do with the I/O chipset. Does ANYONE have any solutions to this??? Thanks everyone.
Post by: stevenzusman on February 16, 2008, 12:17:00 PM
Post by: Bravoexo on February 17, 2008, 02:07:00 AM
Post by: thili55 on March 12, 2008, 01:01:00 AM
Post by: BoldHead on March 16, 2008, 12:39:00 PM
I can workaround it by holding the dvd tray open when I turn off the box,
and when I start it up again it works fine.
Edit: At first when I tried again with the tray closed I got the RROD again, but after playing a game and trying again no more RROD...
This post has been edited by BoldHead: Mar 16 2008, 07:42 PM
Post by: thili55 on March 16, 2008, 11:05:00 PM
Post by: veekay on March 19, 2008, 12:50:00 AM
Post by: fuckdead on March 20, 2008, 09:05:00 AM
I already disconnected my drive and the 3 rrod persists.. Bravoexo, So in you opinion this error has a hard solution or doesnt have a solution at all , am i sure ?
I have that error too, and i was thinking if the x-clamps metod would fix my console ... Has anyone already tried ?
Post by: BILKO1 on March 20, 2008, 01:16:00 PM
QUOTE(fuckdead @ Mar 20 2008, 03:05 PM)
hummm, i dont like when soldering is envolved....
I already disconnected my drive and the 3 rrod persists.. Bravoexo, So in you opinion this error has a hard solution or doesnt have a solution at all , am i sure ?
I have that error too, and i was thinking if the x-clamps metod would fix my console ... Has anyone already tried ?
X-clamp removal will not fix 0021 its southbridge related.
Post by: fuckdead on March 20, 2008, 05:04:00 PM
QUOTE(BILKO1 @ Mar 20 2008, 07:52 PM)
X-clamp removal will not fix 0021 its southbridge related.
So, what is your sugestion to fix that ??? Hot air gun fix ????? I already read about the air gun and very people says that is a temporary solution, so problably is not the solution that i am looking for...
Post by: BILKO1 on March 21, 2008, 01:14:00 AM
QUOTE(fuckdead @ Mar 20 2008, 11:40 PM)
So, what is your sugestion to fix that ??? Hot air gun fix ????? I already read about the air gun and very people says that is a temporary solution, so problably is not the solution that i am looking for...
I wish i had a fix mate as far as i know it's terminal, the heatgun method would probably work but not for long:(
Post by: fuckdead on March 21, 2008, 08:06:00 PM
I buy a new console in summer
Post by: eyepartie on March 22, 2008, 10:23:00 PM
First of all, BOTH consoles had originally been working fine with the x-clamp fix. However, on the first one, I put only two washers (instead of 3 like I should have) on each screw between the heatsink and gpu; I theorized that this caused the heatsink to apply too much pressure to the motherboard and disrupted the southbridge or gpu. On the 2nd 360, I forgot to put the 4 washers on each screw between the motherboard and the metal shell casing (I didn't eat breakfast or lunch that day, go figure). Again, the motherboard warped considerably by applying too much pressure as I screwed down the heatsinks to the cpu and gpu. Heatgunning BOTH gpu and southbridge on console #1 and just the southbridge on console #2 fixed both of them. Still running.
ps. The southbridge is the chip that says xbox 360 and has the silver background.
Post by: fuckdead on March 28, 2008, 06:45:00 PM
Because i have the 0021, and i was thinking in buy the xecuter fix...because i have lots of hope in that team.
But if what you say is truth and if the Xecuter fix doesnt work, i will try your fix.. But with all washers , i think...
Thanks.
Post by: achangeofpace on April 01, 2008, 01:24:00 AM
at first when i have everything in place i get the error cose 0021, when i unplug the DVD drive, i get 0020
???
so what does that mean, anybody have this problem as well?
my dvd drive is Toshiba-Samsung, march 2006
This post has been edited by achangeofpace: Apr 1 2008, 08:32 AM
Post by: achangeofpace on April 01, 2008, 12:09:00 PM
Post by: The Duke 85 on April 02, 2008, 01:29:00 AM
what will happen when the 3 yr warranty is up for hundreds of thousands of people....they wont know how to fix it themselves and it might cost extra to fix.
they should recall all old systems and start replacing each one that is modified.
Post by: The Duke 85 on April 04, 2008, 05:59:00 PM
Post by: raisdfist1 on December 14, 2008, 09:36:00 AM
btw x-clamp was already done in the past on this xbox also pieces of eraser on the ram chips underneat the board when I got 3rol about 6 months ago.. 2005 launch console
Edit: I think blocking the airflow to the gpu and letting the cpu still cool off is the key when trying to overheating it as you do not damage the cpu with too much heat while you heat off the gpu (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
This post has been edited by raisdfist1: Dec 14 2008, 05:38 PM
Post by: Superdude688 on March 30, 2009, 01:29:00 AM
Just got a 360 elite to fix, owner tried towel trick a few times with limited success. had 3rlod. 0102. Did the m5 bolts with washers fix, 3 between mobo and case, 2 between mobo and heatsink (its worked great on two other consoles before). It seemed to fix it, but the fans were spinning real loud. (i never cleaned off the thermal pad). Cleaned up the gpu only, fans seemed more normal and things were ok again. started to play a game and now ive got another problem, the thing freezes and makes a loud static noise that scared the shit out of me, and dotted lines accross the screen. sometimes it happens on bootup on the 360 logo, sometimers i get ingame for a minute and it happens. I tried clamping down the scaler anna/hanna/ whatever it is chip with a 'c' clamp, and i got to play one race in forza 2 before the cpu overheated (the plastic shield wouldnt fit in there with the c clamp ion the way so the thing overheated with limited airflow).
now getting to the point of 0021.....
I have wireless controllers and the usb recharger kit that plug into th etop of the controller. works fine in my xbox 360. when i plug it into this one, instant 3rlod 0021, wtf? unplug it and reboot, works fine. boot and plug it in while on, instant freeze of whatever the 360 is doing. the dvd drive still opens and closes but no responce from the controller or nothing. I tried all 3 usb ports same thing happend. then I tried plugging in my 2gb usb flash drive, nothing happend turned on fine.
so as long as youre using wirless controllers on this guy and you clamp down the stupid chip in back it works fine, but this is still annoying.
any ideas?
Thanks,
- Dave
Post by: knight2000uk on March 31, 2009, 08:23:00 AM
Stu
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Post by: Superdude688 on March 31, 2009, 11:51:00 AM
QUOTE(knight2000uk @ Mar 31 2009, 10:59 AM)
Ive just fixed a HDMI with error code 0021, check the continuity of components C2C1, C2C2, C2C3 and C2C4 i found C2C4 to be defective and had no continuity as it had come loose, soldered it back on and works fine now.
Stu
thanks for the idea, those arent problematic for me though. I figured since the console works normally but only gives 0021 when i plug in the usb play n charge for the wireless controller. (i did get it from china? but works fine on other non hdmi console...)
I did find out that clamping down somewhat hard on the southbridge chip gave me an immediate 0020 error, which strangely is listed as "GPU Malfunction, similar to error 0102".... unclamping brings it straight back to life.
Also after that clamping once of the scaler chip and now having the southbridge moderately clamped, I just did a few races in forza 2 for about half hour with no crash, fans have been whining loud since the get-go though, probably cause I never cleaned the cpu heatsink only the gpu (before i cleaned the gpu one i still had 0102).
now testing with the southbridge back unclamped...
seems okay after another half hour or so of playing... gonna clean off the cpu heatsink as a final touch and put everything back together and see if it holds up!
Post by: addictedtopain on May 21, 2009, 03:59:00 PM
he error, i know from reading this thread it says its to do with the DVD/Southbridge chip
i bought the xbox of a friend for £5 with the entention of fixing it,
however he had opend it up himself to play around with it my guess is,
he seems to damaged the board when trying to remove the xclamps,
i've got some high res pictures below showing the damage,
do you think this damage could be effecting the console and causing this error? its just off the GPU.
(IMG:http://www.aunf21.dsl.pipex.com/IMG_5630.jpg)
(IMG:http://www.aunf21.dsl.pipex.com/IMG_5631.jpg)
(IMG:http://www.aunf21.dsl.pipex.com/IMG_5632.jpg)
the first image seems to show damage to the tracks. what do you recon?
cheers
This post has been edited by addictedtopain: May 21 2009, 11:00 PM
Post by: garyopa on May 24, 2009, 09:23:00 AM
Too much damage. Even I would not brother, you need to track out each one of the traces,
and check to see if broken, and then run a new wire from end to end to fix the link.
I done boards with clearly one or two broken traces, but this one has at least five or more.
The problem is I have found even with the traces fixed, the GPU or CPU may be damaged,
as have one of the traces damaged, or sometimes push onto the next trace causing a short,
and then applying power before fixing the damage will cause the GPU/CPU to go crazy and burn out.
Here is the area you need to work on if you willing to waste a week of manpower:
Post by: addictedtopain on May 24, 2009, 01:54:00 PM
QUOTE(garyopa @ May 24 2009, 02:15 PM) 
Don't waste your time on it.
Too much damage. Even I would not brother, you need to track out each one of the traces,
and check to see if broken, and then run a new wire from end to end to fix the link.
I done boards with clearly one or two broken traces, but this one has at least five or more.
The problem is I have found even with the traces fixed, the GPU or CPU may be damaged,
as have one of the traces damaged, or sometimes push onto the next trace causing a short,
and then applying power before fixing the damage will cause the GPU/CPU to go crazy and burn out.
Here is the area you need to work on if you willing to waste a week of manpower:
(IMG:http://www.o-p-a.co.cc/untitled.JPG)
cheers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) well guess its going on ebay for parts lol, Thanks anyways
Post by: saadi381 on June 16, 2009, 05:27:00 AM
there are mixed opinions regarding 0021 error code.. i m facing the same error
let me start from begining
i have old 2006 manufactured console which is banned , i usually patch wave three games to play it to older firmware , i installed prototype into harddisk which was perfect when i tried to run it it asked for an update but update failed i restarted the console 5-6 times tried to install update through usb and game but didnt worked and finally it gave me e74 , then i heatgunned the board and re applied artic silver 5 the error changed to 0021 i have heated south bridge but no improvement in 0021 , any guess and if this is due to dvd rom flash or firmware how can i be confirm abt it .Physically i cant see any damage to motherboard or circuit ..
i am gettin frustated by this error .
i can upload the pictures of mother board please do tell me if they are required
Please help
Regards
This post has been edited by saadi381: Jun 16 2009, 12:28 PM
Post by: PRiME2008 on December 01, 2009, 01:47:00 AM
Post by: kontendoo on December 05, 2010, 10:38:00 AM
i have the 0021 error and have tried everything on this topic. please help me
ps : i can't find "OPA xtream v 2.1" firmware
Post by: oedi103 on December 07, 2010, 03:03:00 AM
Who of you guys that got 0021 had the xclamp fix done?I`ve never seen it on a virgin console.
Post by: wakeboard115 on December 11, 2010, 08:58:00 PM
QUOTE(oedi103 @ Dec 7 2010, 03:03 AM)
0021 is a pain to fix,usually happens after a failed reflow or shitty xclamp fix.Its a bridged solder joint in most cases only repairable by reballing sb or gpu,i think often it would be 2 solder joints under the gpu that lead to the sb caused by flexing and too much pressure on the gpu.
Who of you guys that got 0021 had the xclamp fix done?I`ve never seen it on a virgin console.
I just started diagnosing my xbox tonight, and I'm getting error 0021. The box has never been opened and everything on it is still the same as the day we got it (except for the error). Any ideas as to what might be causing it? It's no longer under warranty, so I'm gonna tear it open tomorrow and start playing with it's guts.
Thanks!
Post by: MadMaxGR on December 13, 2010, 07:06:00 AM
QUOTE(wakeboard115 @ Dec 12 2010, 05:58 AM)
I just started diagnosing my xbox tonight, and I'm getting error 0021. The box has never been opened and everything on it is still the same as the day we got it (except for the error). Any ideas as to what might be causing it? It's no longer under warranty, so I'm gonna tear it open tomorrow and start playing with it's guts.
Thanks!
The problem most commonly is GPU. Apply x-clamp fix and reflow the GPU. That would fix yoru problem, for now.
Post by: angrykid on December 13, 2010, 09:53:00 AM
I removed the x-clamps on both and put in the washers-bolts, cleaned up the heatsinks and chip dies then AS5 and sinched down lightly.
one of the consoles worked right away, the other one was problematic and took me about an hour of finding the right pressure on the GPU.... now I can't remember which one was the problem board but I just got the HDMI xbox back last week and opened it up to find 2 of the capacitors ripped out of the board. one was rolling around in the case and the other one missing entirely!
ordered some capacitors of the same size & rating off digi-key.
they came in 2 days, quick, I heated up the solder and pulled out the old broken legs then soldered in the new legs on both capacitors. put the heatsinks back on like I always have, fired it up and red ring... 0021, great, I've tried varying the torque on the bolts holding down the gpu and cpu, tried overheating the unit, wait for a cooldown and try again, nothing.
noted that the dvd drive will not eject and I did find one of the dvd power cable wires had broke from its hold in spot though it still is getting proper connection to the drive.
also I did have to straighten out 3 or 4 pins on the DVD power connector motherboard side, I have no idea how they got ripped out.
all I know is I fixed this guys red ring and flashed his drive perfectly I tested everything played a game or 2 before I gave it back to him. I don't know if he accidentally dropped it and that caused the drive cable & capacitors to break but I cannot explain the missing capacitor that was very odd.
Post by: angrykid on December 13, 2010, 08:35:00 PM
I'm about to get rid of this piece of junk or maybe sell for parts on ebay or this forum?
Post by: angrykid on December 14, 2010, 07:33:00 AM
I mean, it doesn't want to eject at all.....
Post by: AJ911 on July 22, 2011, 12:50:00 PM
Not sure if that would help you since there was physical damage done to the system, but I guess it wouldn't hurt to check your USB ports.