Post by: xxSnakeEyesxx on January 12, 2006, 01:05:00 PM
Post by: davemire on January 12, 2006, 02:41:00 PM
Post by: xboxmodder4life on January 12, 2006, 10:01:00 PM
Post by: foureyezz on January 13, 2006, 01:53:00 AM
Post by: twistedsymphony on January 13, 2006, 06:51:00 AM
Post by: C o s m o on January 13, 2006, 07:41:00 AM
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Post by: xboxmodder4life on January 13, 2006, 09:26:00 AM
Post by: endz on January 13, 2006, 11:25:00 AM
My core system was quiet, but my premium sounds like a 747...
Post by: Achtung on January 13, 2006, 11:38:00 AM
Post by: Torx-T3D on January 13, 2006, 11:55:00 AM
horizontal, rubber feet and premium.
ive yet to play a movie on it, i couldnt stand watching movies on the xbox because it was soo loud when i wanted my volume lower.
Post by: adamscybot on January 13, 2006, 12:13:00 PM
It then slowly slows down during gameplay and sometimes spins up on intense loading parts - it doesnt really annoy me - I can easily ignore it and get on wth the game.
Adam
Post by: davemire on January 13, 2006, 02:55:00 PM
QUOTE(thax @ Jan 13 2006, 09:44 AM) 
How is that possible, doesn't the DVD drive noise get very load when fully spun up? Could there be a possible mod to the drive to reduce the noise level?
I have a premium. And full spun isn't that loud at all! Very quiet! And I am obsessed. My computer quietly wirs and drives me nuts. Xbox 360 doesn't bother me at all.
Post by: Interfire on January 13, 2006, 06:06:00 PM
Post by: maxlifo on January 14, 2006, 04:52:00 AM
It's louder than both my Xboxs for sure.
Post by: decapkris on January 14, 2006, 04:57:00 AM
Post by: fahrenheit on January 14, 2006, 11:09:00 PM
Post by: Foe-hammer on January 15, 2006, 02:09:00 AM
I believe the reason for this, is because COD2 is the only 360 game that does not use the hdd, and thereby is continually loading from off the dvd drive while it's blazing at 12x. All the other games i played must load from off the hdd after it has initially loaded from the dvd.
Post by: G0t M4xx 21 on January 15, 2006, 09:34:00 PM
Post by: xxSnakeEyesxx on January 16, 2006, 08:47:00 AM
. I've only played Call of Duty so far and boy does it spin loud with this game. I'll be getting Perfect Dark and Condamned tomorrow lets see if it's still loud. I post a pic of my DVD tray later with my model number. Maybe I'll add in a vid of the noise too.
Post by: Jtech|I on January 17, 2006, 09:41:00 AM
QUOTE(xxSnakeEyesxx @ Jan 16 2006, 10:54 AM)
I'm not going to open my 360 yet
. I've only played Call of Duty so far and boy does it spin loud with this game. I'll be getting Perfect Dark and Condamned tomorrow lets see if it's still loud. I post a pic of my DVD tray later with my model number. Maybe I'll add in a vid of the noise too.That would help...
If you've already opened up your 360, post a picture of the DVD tray and manufacturer/model, along with the noise level of the drive... From there we'll be able to determine which drive is the quietest and what drive you have without opening up your 360.
To start this off (picture and model taken from Llamma.com):
The drive is a Hitachi-LG GDR-3120L.
I don't personally have the drive myself, so have no idea when it comes to the noise level. Let us know if you do have this drive...
Post by: C o s m o on January 18, 2006, 07:27:00 AM
QUOTE(Achtung @ Jan 13 2006, 12:45 PM)
I'd say mine is pretty much a medium as far as noise level if you have it vertical, Horizontally I find it quiet.
Have others tried this? Compared volume vertical an horizontal? I will tonight, to see if orientation has an effect on DVD noise. Maybe it spins faster when vertical
Post by: twistedsymphony on January 18, 2006, 08:02:00 AM
EDIT ...it's also horizontal if your curious.
Post by: Jtech|I on January 18, 2006, 03:37:00 PM
EDIT: Twisted have you tried it vertically? Is it any louder?
Post by: cmcc186 on January 18, 2006, 08:27:00 PM
QUOTE(cmcc186 @ Jan 19 2006, 03:21 AM)
Hi. New member here.
Just to let you know that its total pot luck and the odds will get better as time goes on as to the noise your 360 makes. Some units are fitted with much quieter but more expensive fans and DVD drives which will be introduced more as the 360 sells more and makes a profit. Same with the last XBox. The reason a few "good 'uns" are dotted around is so media reports, reviews and forums like this aren't full of "The 360 is too noisy....agreed....agreed....agreed" which gives it a bad image. But its too expensive to have quiet fans and drives in every machine. Happened with the last XBox and the PS2 too. My XBox is fairly noisy but my cousin's (who got his a year later) is whisper quiet.
Best way to reduce noise is to have it lying flat. The 360s fans will speed up and down according to temperature and the heat builds up more when its upright. Also your drive will make slightly less noise when running in a flat 360. Unfortunately the drive is a noisy bugger running at full speed (16x). Look it at this way. It has to transfer data to fill up that 512Mb RAM and put some data aside on the hard drive for later so it needs to be fast so you don't have 2 minute loading times.
Whats the 360's noise like when running XBox titles? I'm sure its much quieter.
Post by: C o s m o on January 19, 2006, 07:41:00 AM
QUOTE(Jtech|I @ Jan 17 2006, 10:48 AM)
The drive is a Hitachi-LG GDR-3120L.
This is my DVD drive, and it's loud. I didn't orient it horizontally yet though.
Post by: Jtech|I on January 19, 2006, 09:34:00 AM
Post by: twistedsymphony on January 19, 2006, 09:44:00 AM
As for the person claiming they make "a few good units" I don't agree... Xbox V1.0s ALL had thompson drives... ALL of them. and they ALL had the same fans too (I know a division of my company manufactures them).
It's true that later revisions had improved equipment, but I don't believe they make X amount of product better to help reviews.
Some consoles are just naturally better then others, like any product manufactured some are more closer to spec. If anything they'd grab a group of 100 or so, find the better one and ship those off to reviewers. But as someone who's IN manufacturing I can tell you they certainly don't purposefully make X amount better to help keep people quiet.
Post by: Chancer on January 19, 2006, 09:59:00 AM
As for noise levels etc. I can't hear any fans or drives on mine for the surround sound blasting out.
the only noise I hear is an occassional banging noise but I ignore it as its just the neighbours banging on the wall to complain about the sound level
Post by: Inn0v80r on January 19, 2006, 01:17:00 PM
So, here's MY perception:
66 decibles @ 1 inch from the center of the drive bezel while loading COD2 with nothing else turned on.
Get out your SPL meters and measure so we can get some REAL/IMPARTIAL comparisons...
Post by: cmcc186 on January 19, 2006, 08:41:00 PM
Long story short: I hope when I get a 360 that a year down the line it doesn't become ridiculously loud as the fans and drive motors wear down. From what I've heard and playing my friend's 360 it is loud.
Funny this never bothered me before but I think its all the time exposed to humming computers and consoles over the past years its something I couldn't be arsed with anymore. Just bought a quiet case fan and PSU for my PC.
EDIT:: Forgot to mention, 66dB is pretty bad. About 45-50dB is what a noisy AMD PC would make.
Post by: marauderrt10 on January 19, 2006, 10:11:00 PM
Post by: Jtech|I on January 19, 2006, 10:14:00 PM
QUOTE(marauderrt10 @ Jan 20 2006, 12:18 AM)
i dont hear my dvd drive at all. I customized the cover with the little stickies from the thompson drive from the regular xbox and it doesnt make a noise at all, and i can turn it to horizontal while the cd is spinning vertically
You think you could take a picture of the tray and post it?... It is a Samsung drive right?
Post by: twistedsymphony on January 20, 2006, 06:40:00 AM
I guess my memory fooled me on that one.The drive is still pretty quiet, I loaded up a few games with my theater sound turned off. it makes a little bit of a grinding noise about a second after the tray is closed and then the spin up spin down noises are fairly quiet, certainly quieter then my Xbox 1 or my PC... The fans seem to make less noise then the fans in my projector which are rated at 34dB. But in all respect This is in my basement which is pretty cold most of the time (kept at ~55F ambient when not in use, we warm it up to 65F when we go down there).
Turning the console vertically it got louder, the grinding/tray noise was the same but it seemed like the disc was spinning faster as well as the fans.
Post by: marauderrt10 on January 20, 2006, 12:06:00 PM
QUOTE(Jtech|I @ Jan 20 2006, 12:21 AM)
You think you could take a picture of the tray and post it?... It is a Samsung drive right?
No mines a LG Hitachi which are not as loud as the Samsungs. here is what i did to make it quieter. DVD Drive Mod
go to the very bottom of the page and you will see it says it makes it quieter.
Post by: HSDEMONZ on January 20, 2006, 12:16:00 PM
Before we can go around saying one drive is loud.. etc.. we need a noise standard. Preferably one where decibels are measured in a quantitative and scientific way that we can establish as a standard. We then add to that measurements for idle, dvd game play, dvd movie play, cd play etc.
Short of that.. all I see here are people using their subjective sense to guage noise and compare it.
In my unscientific testing.. (I don't have a proper db tester) I have made recording using my mic turned all the way up and extended to where I keep one of each Xbox and Xbox360.
Overall, I found my 360 to be quieter, however, on Game DIsk load, it peaks a bit higher. (keep in mind.. that the recording does not exlude the noise of the fans as they ramp up speed.
Anyways.. loud.. quiet.. we need a standard. Otherwise.. it's just a bunch of hooey.
Post by: twistedsymphony on January 20, 2006, 12:19:00 PM
QUOTE(marauderrt10 @ Jan 20 2006, 02:13 PM)
No mines a LG Hitachi which are not as loud as the Samsungs. here is what i did to make it quieter. DVD Drive Mod
go to the very bottom of the page and you will see it says it makes it quieter.
actually it says
QUOTE
...this serves to significantly quiet the noise from the drive (when moving it around).
doesn't say anything about the noise level during operation
Post by: HSDEMONZ on January 20, 2006, 12:23:00 PM
QUOTE(marauderrt10 @ Jan 20 2006, 12:18 AM)
i dont hear my dvd drive at all. I customized the cover with the little stickies from the thompson drive from the regular xbox and it doesnt make a noise at all, and i can turn it to horizontal while the cd is spinning vertically
I still find it hilarious that people will void warranties to do an unnecessary mod. Worse.. bragging that they can now "safely" change the console orientation while it runs. Keep in mind.. the rubber/foam compound you now have in place.. will, and does break down. Given time.. you will damage and kill the drive with the debris that will collect and bounce around inside. LLama didn't tell you that now did they?
But.. I'm sure you enjoyed the chance to go inside and mod something.. so I guess it's not all bad.
Post by: marauderrt10 on January 20, 2006, 12:26:00 PM
Post by: HSDEMONZ on January 20, 2006, 12:29:00 PM
I will however void it.. when I start getting review samples during the next 30-60 days of some key new products.
Post by: C o s m o on January 20, 2006, 08:22:00 PM
QUOTE(HSDEMONZ @ Jan 20 2006, 01:36 PM)
voiding a warranty on a perfectly good , quiet, and working console isn't my idea of fun.
I will however void it.. when I start getting review samples during the next 30-60 days of some key new products.
Nice...new key products. I won't venture a guess.
I reoriented my box (safely-turned off) to horizontal. No difference in DVD noise, at least with NHL 2k6.
Post by: stevey5036 on January 21, 2006, 12:25:00 AM
Post by: lumpyhed on January 27, 2006, 03:59:00 PM
QUOTE(stezo2k @ Jan 21 2006, 10:56 PM)
Using a premium one here, drive is quite loud though, shame cos the console itself is very quiet
Same, just got mine today too. I forcee my first mod to be changing the drive to a quiet one once it becomes a feasible option.
Post by: sam2dog on January 28, 2006, 02:23:00 AM
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Post by: manhunt009 on January 29, 2006, 07:04:00 PM
Post by: brownboi_nayyar on January 29, 2006, 10:10:00 PM
it's annoying as hell when the volume is turned down...
I bet anything it'll be quieter as new models release...
Post by: grim_d on February 01, 2006, 06:11:00 PM
Post by: DaShiZNiT on February 20, 2006, 07:52:00 PM
Post by: bucko on February 22, 2006, 03:21:00 PM
Post by: Diddycoon on February 23, 2006, 05:54:00 AM
Between that and highering the sound on my amp to drown it out I'm going to go deaf before I'm 30 LOL.
Post by: twistedsymphony on February 23, 2006, 09:38:00 AM
QUOTE(Phlanxer @ Feb 23 2006, 07:48 AM)
Been watching this topic a while now, my drive seems very loud but then I wondered about what the other guy said regarding the dev software not having the dvd-speed control for the launch titles.
Curious I tried COD2, PDZ, Kameo and PGR3 and all these titles gave a really loud noise from my drive (and the noise level was at a constant level for each title). Switching to DOA4 and I was really surprised to notice that the drive was really quiet (making less noise than my PC drive). Can't wait for something like GRAW to come out so I can further test this theory but for the moment it seems to be holding true. Having said that it may be something specific to DOA4, anyone got full auto or another recent title (i.e. not a launch title) and compare it to a launch title on their machine?
If we can try it on a few machines then we might be able to get somewhere!
I think you are Absolutely correct.
I have a pretty hefty surround sound setup and I usually play my games with it cranked. When I went to test my drive sound I shut off the receiver and popped in the nearest disc (DOA4)... I just recently got COD2 and a day or two ago I went to play it and happened to pop the disc in before powering up my surround sound, the drive was MUCH MUCH louder then before, trying different games the noise level was different, PGR3 and COD2 are the worst offenders; running the drive at full blast ALL THE TIME. While games like DOA4 (and one or two others I can't remember) only run it fast while loading and return to quiet speeds once the game is loaded.
When my PC DVD drive runs at 48x it's loud as heck too.
So really the loud drive problem is based in the programing, rather then adjusting the drive speed as necessary they just run it at full blast all the time.
Post by: krims0n on February 23, 2006, 11:17:00 AM
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Post by: RadATI on February 27, 2006, 09:15:00 PM
QUOTE(Jtech|I @ Jan 19 2006, 11:41 AM)
Right... It seems like the Samsung is the quieter of the two. We just need someone to post a picture of a Samsung tray now.
Here's my one and only (well pretty rare) Samsung Drive... It's loud as HOLY HELL! Esp. in vertical position. I have HUGE noise issues with it.
Post by: unr3al on February 28, 2006, 09:36:00 AM
It hasn't really bothered me yet, but it's surprisingly loud and I would have expected otherwise. Hopefully what was mentioned earlier in the thread about initial games not having control of the drive speed is true.