Post by: incognegro on September 17, 2005, 08:14:00 PM
I use to trust nintendo for making family oriented games but now they have made a turn for the worse by creating actually weapons as peripherals!!
NINTENDO IS POISONING OUR YOUTH!!!
I guess they expect nintendo fanboys with their deadly nunchucks to fight off sony fanboys and their deadly boomerang projectiles!? What about the helpless xbox fanboys that have nothing fight back with!?
Follow me and help me protest against this travesty!
In all seriousness though
, place your opinions about the best controller of nex gen here........
Post by: brooksie48 on September 17, 2005, 08:38:00 PM
mock up adapter
Post by: Zipp425 on September 17, 2005, 08:54:00 PM
All i have to say is they when a little to far out of the box... They made a revolution the world doesnt want... or at least i dont!
PS3:
Im not one to have sex fantasies but its controllers are trying to hard to be sexy, taking it to the point of being literal.
Soon we will find porn of girls and ps3 controllers.... sick!!!!
Xbox360:
Doesnt get much more like a controller than this. Its simple just the way i like them.
Post by: CattyKid on September 17, 2005, 08:59:00 PM
QUOTE(Zipp425 @ Sep 17 2005, 11:05 PM)
Nintendo Revolution controllers:
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Post by: incognegro on September 17, 2005, 10:05:00 PM
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Yea well nintendo controllers arent exactly known for their comfort or their ability to adapt to ANY gaming experience thats for sure.....
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Post by: Twasi on September 17, 2005, 11:08:00 PM
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If you don't like the rev's controller you really are being a little ignorant, they have opened up doors to gameplay that just isn't possible on standard controllers, it lets you control a true 3d enviroment, imagine fencing and being able to do a real upstroke, or in a fighting game instead of having A = punch B = kick you can use the controller to do a semi hard punch a semi-light punch, slide it up afterforward to do an upercut, you can realisticly simulate a fishing pole or a sword. The possibilities are endless. Then you just plug the remote part into a shell that is believed to come with the console for free and you have a regular controler so no harm no foul
More options > less options.
Oh and every major gaming site has had hand's on with it and they all say it's very very comfortable and easy to use. The ONLY network that bashed it was G4 but we all know they crawl up sony's ass at night, they literaly said
Girl 1: So what does it do (when looking at a rev controler)
Guy1: Besides being stupid!?
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Post by: Bogus8 on September 17, 2005, 11:41:00 PM
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Totally agree.... but everytime something "revolutionary" is introduced it is met with voilent opposition. You guys that think you are all uber geeks/gamers should never shoot something down before trying it out. Example was the original xbox everyone said MS couldn't make a console and it would be crap... look at where we are now.
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Post by: m_hael on September 17, 2005, 11:53:00 PM
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some of us were alive when a console was controlled by 4 digital direction buttons with a moment driven switch and a single button to press.... ie... the joySTICK.... how we bitched and moaned when nintendo switched it up a little invented a new way.. oh...wait...we didn't... we quickly realised that the "new" way was...blatantly... better.
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Post by: Bogus8 on September 18, 2005, 12:08:00 AM
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Post by: incognegro on September 17, 2005, 10:05:00 PM
Post by: Twasi on September 17, 2005, 11:08:00 PM
More options > less options.
Oh and every major gaming site has had hand's on with it and they all say it's very very comfortable and easy to use. The ONLY network that bashed it was G4 but we all know they crawl up sony's ass at night, they literaly said
Girl 1: So what does it do (when looking at a rev controler)
Guy1: Besides being stupid!?
Post by: Bogus8 on September 17, 2005, 11:41:00 PM
Post by: m_hael on September 17, 2005, 11:53:00 PM
Post by: Bogus8 on September 18, 2005, 12:08:00 AM
QUOTE(sick_mate_xbox @ Sep 18 2005, 01:11 AM)
the revolutions controller looks like a TV remote 
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Post by: Bogus8 on September 18, 2005, 12:34:00 AM
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Post by: Bogus8 on September 18, 2005, 12:34:00 AM
QUOTE(sick_mate_xbox @ Sep 18 2005, 01:24 AM)
i think my sig is just a little better than yours. it says nothing about a monkey
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Post by: Xombe on September 18, 2005, 12:59:00 AM
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From today's www.somethingawful.com update:
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Post by: sick_mate_xbox on September 18, 2005, 01:47:00 AM
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yeah alright.. thats cool man
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Post by: joerehall on September 18, 2005, 04:53:00 AM
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Post by: Xombe on September 18, 2005, 12:59:00 AM
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And what's the deal with that new Nintendo Revolution controller? I guess it detects motion, right? I wonder if it will be able to detect me throwing that conceptual disaster into the trash!
Post by: sick_mate_xbox on September 18, 2005, 01:47:00 AM
Post by: joerehall on September 18, 2005, 04:53:00 AM
QUOTE(CKwik240 @ Sep 18 2005, 01:47 AM)
It can certainly open some doors. Imagine that for once, a person who reacts to games jerking their controller in the direction they want their character to go is now actually greeted with a favorable response...instead of getting made fun of for it. For example, you are playing an FPS and someone pops around a corner, surprising you. Jerk the controller left while pushing the thumbstick left. Instead of getting only a left directional movement, you get a quick dodging roll to the left side. With some creativity, I think there is the potential that something like this may enhance game play, even on more traditional games. But I'll wait to see how they actually decide to implement it.
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Post by: joerehall on September 18, 2005, 04:57:00 AM
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your ignorant for even saying something like that.
yes nintendo did a revolutionary thing with the gyroscopic functions.. but they could have put these functions in a more ergonomic controller..
that is why people are complaining..
stop calling people ignorant and think about where everyone is coming from.
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Post by: incognegro on September 18, 2005, 06:39:00 AM
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Post by: Bogus8 on September 18, 2005, 02:07:00 PM
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Umm that is very illogical. We won't know what it's like till you actually play it. You people are the first to slam people that dis the new xbox controller saying "dude once you play it it kicks ass" and I agree don't knock it before you tried it... same applies here. You've got to make radical changes to really change something ... just putting a gyroscope would be ok but this may start a new trend if it works well... don't knock it yet.
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Post by: redwolf on September 18, 2005, 04:45:00 PM
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Post by: Twasi on September 18, 2005, 08:19:00 PM
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Okay sure thing buddy, maybe you should learn to read any of the articles or posts and you will see people aren't complaining as much about the look but more of the idea of the 3d motion sensing. You obviously have no idea how the controller works if you think they could have effectively put the controller into a normal design, it wouldn't work like that because the analog stick isn't part of the controller, you don't need it therefore why have it attatched? Also if you had one giant controller with it plugged in you would need to swing the whole dang thing around. Try picking up a duke controller and think of not using the second analog stick but move the whole controller around, not so comfortable eh? The point was to be able to control it with the flick of a wrist, hence why the "remote" design was choosen it is the most efficient design to date and if you had a solid controller with it in you would need to move your arms instead of your wrists which is very annoying. They also have a standard shell to plug the remote in which was already posted here, it is a mock up but I'm sure the real thing will look very similar. So there all your bitching about it not being in a standard controller was solved in one little sentence that your inability to read made you miss. Then finally they made it two parts so you could use the analog stick comfortably without having to move it around along with the 3d sensor in the main cartridge. So next time you go around calling people ignorant maybe you should think out your statement before you make youself look dumb.
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Post by: joerehall on September 18, 2005, 10:33:00 PM
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Post by: joerehall on September 18, 2005, 04:57:00 AM
QUOTE(Twasi @ Sep 17 2005, 10:19 PM)
If you don't like the rev's controller you really are being a little ignorant
your ignorant for even saying something like that.
yes nintendo did a revolutionary thing with the gyroscopic functions.. but they could have put these functions in a more ergonomic controller..
that is why people are complaining..
stop calling people ignorant and think about where everyone is coming from.
Post by: incognegro on September 18, 2005, 06:39:00 AM
Post by: Bogus8 on September 18, 2005, 02:07:00 PM
Umm that is very illogical. We won't know what it's like till you actually play it. You people are the first to slam people that dis the new xbox controller saying "dude once you play it it kicks ass" and I agree don't knock it before you tried it... same applies here. You've got to make radical changes to really change something ... just putting a gyroscope would be ok but this may start a new trend if it works well... don't knock it yet.
Post by: redwolf on September 18, 2005, 04:45:00 PM
Post by: Twasi on September 18, 2005, 08:19:00 PM
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your ignorant for even saying something like that.
yes nintendo did a revolutionary thing with the gyroscopic functions.. but they could have put these functions in a more ergonomic controller..
that is why people are complaining..
stop calling people ignorant and think about where everyone is coming from.
yes nintendo did a revolutionary thing with the gyroscopic functions.. but they could have put these functions in a more ergonomic controller..
that is why people are complaining..
stop calling people ignorant and think about where everyone is coming from.
Okay sure thing buddy, maybe you should learn to read any of the articles or posts and you will see people aren't complaining as much about the look but more of the idea of the 3d motion sensing. You obviously have no idea how the controller works if you think they could have effectively put the controller into a normal design, it wouldn't work like that because the analog stick isn't part of the controller, you don't need it therefore why have it attatched? Also if you had one giant controller with it plugged in you would need to swing the whole dang thing around. Try picking up a duke controller and think of not using the second analog stick but move the whole controller around, not so comfortable eh? The point was to be able to control it with the flick of a wrist, hence why the "remote" design was choosen it is the most efficient design to date and if you had a solid controller with it in you would need to move your arms instead of your wrists which is very annoying. They also have a standard shell to plug the remote in which was already posted here, it is a mock up but I'm sure the real thing will look very similar. So there all your bitching about it not being in a standard controller was solved in one little sentence that your inability to read made you miss. Then finally they made it two parts so you could use the analog stick comfortably without having to move it around along with the 3d sensor in the main cartridge. So next time you go around calling people ignorant maybe you should think out your statement before you make youself look dumb.
Post by: joerehall on September 18, 2005, 10:33:00 PM
QUOTE(Twasi @ Sep 18 2005, 07:30 PM)
Okay sure thing buddy, maybe you should learn to read any of the articles or posts and you will see people aren't complaining as much about the look but more of the idea of the 3d motion sensing. You obviously have no idea how the controller works if you think they could have effectively put the controller into a normal design, it wouldn't work like that because the analog stick isn't part of the controller, you don't need it therefore why have it attatched? Also if you had one giant controller with it plugged in you would need to swing the whole dang thing around. Try pickireng up a duke controller and think of not using the second analog stick but move the whole controller around, not so comfortable eh? The point was to be able to control it with the flick of a wrist, hence why the "remote" design was choosen it is the most efficient design to date and if you had a solid controller with it in you would need to move your arms instead of your wrists which is very annoying. They also have a standard shell to plug the remote in which was already posted here, it is a mock up but I'm sure the real thing will look very similar. So there all your bitching about it not being in a standard controller was solved in one little sentence that your inability to read made you miss. Then finally they made it two parts so you could use the analog stick comfortably without having to move it around along with the 3d sensor in the main cartridge. So next time you go around calling people ignorant maybe you should think out your statement before you make youself look dumb.
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Post by: m_hael on September 18, 2005, 11:49:00 PM
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I think someone (come on admin... where are you) should close this bitch fight now... the cats are getting rough.
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Post by: Heet on September 19, 2005, 12:37:00 AM
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Dont go look in Politics and Religeon.
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Post by: Xombe on September 19, 2005, 06:10:00 AM
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This... is mild, compared to some.
Regardless, keep it civil. Report bad posts/flames/etc. as per Policy.
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Post by: ninjax on September 19, 2005, 06:30:00 AM
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I am pretty sure Ninty is more worried about appealing to Japan than the US. I have a feeling that it is going to be huge there. They are always looking for something new and different. I for one like the idea, how well they utilize it...thats up to them. If the controller is very well made, and very sensitive, it will be pretty cool IMHO. If the thing is a cheap piece of junk...then...well...they have a hell of an uphill battle to fight. I always here in the forums that things need to be different...well...here you go. Try something different. If you dont like it, then dont buy it. Thats why there are kiosks everywhere.
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Post by: bluvasa on September 19, 2005, 07:49:00 AM
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I think you guys are being way too narrow minded about this whole controller thing.
Nintendo's new design is by far the most flexible. The ability to plug add-ons into this controller can be used in a number of interesting ways.
Imagine plugging it in to a steering wheel, a baseball bat, or a fishing pole type peripheral. By adding the new controller into any one of these designs, you get instant first party controls and novel ways to play games.
You also have to remember that Nintendo's "Revolution" is not really aimed at gamers like us. They seem to be going for more casual gamers.
A lot of people are intimidated by a controller with 2 analog sticks, a d-pad, two triggers, two shoulders bumpers, and 7 face buttons. Those that are familiar with modern games are perfectly at home using a device like this, but those who are not gamers usually take one look at the controller and turn away. Simple can be better, depending on the situation.
I see their strategy as more along the lines of what they did with the original NES. Simple games that anyone can play. They are looking to take in a new generation of casual gamers who are uninterested or intimidated by the current state of video gaming.
MS is doing the same thing, but on a more conservative scale. The "Core" sku and xbox-live arcade are both aimed at more casual players. Nintendo seems to have embraced this idea whole-heartedly and their controler reflects this.
After seeing what Nintendo has to offer, I have definitely decided to get a Revolution. If they launch with a cheap price, it will definitely be a success.
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on September 19, 2005, 08:24:00 AM
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I don't like any of the new controllers. They all seem to suck in one way or another.
PS3 Controller
Pros.
its almost the same controller, same buttons, same layout, etc.
Cons.
it looks smaller and very sci-fi like
X360 controller
Pros.
seems to fit in your hands unlike the xbox's launch controller
Cons.
I dont like having 2 shoulder buttons and 2 triggers, I have tested this with my xbox controller. To hold the controller and use your middle fingers for the triggers (like you will have to do on the x360 controller) is not comfortable for very long
Revolution Controller
Pros.
Innovative
Cons.
everything besides innovation
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Title: Revolution Vs. 360 Vs. Ps3
Post by: BaRTiMuS on September 19, 2005, 08:40:00 AM
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Post by: Bogus8 on September 19, 2005, 09:00:00 AM
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Post by: m_hael on September 18, 2005, 11:49:00 PM
Post by: Heet on September 19, 2005, 12:37:00 AM
Dont go look in Politics and Religeon.
Post by: Xombe on September 19, 2005, 06:10:00 AM
Regardless, keep it civil. Report bad posts/flames/etc. as per Policy.
Post by: ninjax on September 19, 2005, 06:30:00 AM
Post by: bluvasa on September 19, 2005, 07:49:00 AM
Nintendo's new design is by far the most flexible. The ability to plug add-ons into this controller can be used in a number of interesting ways.
Imagine plugging it in to a steering wheel, a baseball bat, or a fishing pole type peripheral. By adding the new controller into any one of these designs, you get instant first party controls and novel ways to play games.
You also have to remember that Nintendo's "Revolution" is not really aimed at gamers like us. They seem to be going for more casual gamers.
A lot of people are intimidated by a controller with 2 analog sticks, a d-pad, two triggers, two shoulders bumpers, and 7 face buttons. Those that are familiar with modern games are perfectly at home using a device like this, but those who are not gamers usually take one look at the controller and turn away. Simple can be better, depending on the situation.
I see their strategy as more along the lines of what they did with the original NES. Simple games that anyone can play. They are looking to take in a new generation of casual gamers who are uninterested or intimidated by the current state of video gaming.
MS is doing the same thing, but on a more conservative scale. The "Core" sku and xbox-live arcade are both aimed at more casual players. Nintendo seems to have embraced this idea whole-heartedly and their controler reflects this.
After seeing what Nintendo has to offer, I have definitely decided to get a Revolution. If they launch with a cheap price, it will definitely be a success.
Post by: deftonesmx17 on September 19, 2005, 08:24:00 AM
PS3 Controller
Pros.
its almost the same controller, same buttons, same layout, etc.
Cons.
it looks smaller and very sci-fi like
X360 controller
Pros.
seems to fit in your hands unlike the xbox's launch controller
Cons.
I dont like having 2 shoulder buttons and 2 triggers, I have tested this with my xbox controller. To hold the controller and use your middle fingers for the triggers (like you will have to do on the x360 controller) is not comfortable for very long
Revolution Controller
Pros.
Innovative
Cons.
everything besides innovation
Post by: BaRTiMuS on September 19, 2005, 08:40:00 AM
Post by: Bogus8 on September 19, 2005, 09:00:00 AM
QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Sep 19 2005, 09:35 AM)
X360 controller
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Post by: Bogus8 on September 19, 2005, 09:35:00 AM
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Not sure about you but when I'm racing my "foot" is on the gas about 95% of the time. I just am starting to think that it's more convienient for me to take my thumb away from abxy then from the triggers... I may stand corrected but that is my thinking as of now.
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Post by: twistedsymphony on September 19, 2005, 10:38:00 AM
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Post by: Bogus8 on September 19, 2005, 09:35:00 AM
Post by: twistedsymphony on September 19, 2005, 10:38:00 AM
QUOTE(Bogus8 @ Sep 19 2005, 11:46 AM)
Not sure about you but when I'm racing my "foot" is on the gas about 95% of the time. I just am starting to think that it's more convienient for me to take my thumb away from abxy then from the triggers... I may stand corrected but that is my thinking as of now.
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Post by: Andy51 on September 19, 2005, 01:55:00 PM
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Ahem.... Xbox 360... Controller cough cough....
Playstation 3 controller?
Pros-
Nothing changed
Looks extremely smooth
Cons- um the shape?
Xbox 360 controller
Pros- The Xbox 360 button! Everything looks perfect
- Kept pretty much the same, just tweak out the problems some people had with COntroller S
- Complex yet simple... I can't explain it
Revoultion Controller
- Motion Control- NICE!!!!
- Very different
Cons
It is too different
Did I say different?
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Title: Revolution Vs. 360 Vs. Ps3
Post by: bluvasa on September 19, 2005, 03:43:00 PM
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Full Article
Good read, I want a Revolution.
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Title: Revolution Vs. 360 Vs. Ps3
Post by: Bogus8 on September 19, 2005, 04:27:00 PM
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does anyone really think they will just use the sholder button for view change??
As much as you like having your hands in your lap
you won't HAVE to have them in your lap with the nintendo controller they can rest on your side or wherever you want. Also you don't have to levetate your whole arm to use the gyro stuff... which btw the techonology has improved greatly, has anyone use one of the gyro pointers? I have it worked well (took some getting used to). You have to realize just cause ms failed with it in the past doesn't mean current tech hasn't improve. You guys are going cookoo for coco puffs over the wireless controllers yet I HATE anything wireless I have ever tried (save the $100 logitec laser mouse). BUT I know in time it will improve but till it does I'm not looking at getting any, actually I have a ton of it on the shelf in my office at work as everyone keeps getting me to swap theirs with wired gear since it sucks so bad
I use a touch pad, mouse, and a trackball (Kinsington Expert, my fav) and my hand never gets tired.. though if I levetated my hand over my mouse or trackball or touch pad it would... but I can still move all around with either and it's not that big of a deal.
Though I am glad you are still keeping an open mind about it as opposed to others that are bashing it with out any real consideration... guess change scares them *shrug*
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Title: Revolution Vs. 360 Vs. Ps3
Post by: Bogus8 on September 19, 2005, 05:45:00 PM
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Post by: Andy51 on September 19, 2005, 01:55:00 PM
Playstation 3 controller?
Pros-
Nothing changed
Looks extremely smooth
Cons- um the shape?
Xbox 360 controller
Pros- The Xbox 360 button! Everything looks perfect
- Kept pretty much the same, just tweak out the problems some people had with COntroller S
- Complex yet simple... I can't explain it
Revoultion Controller
- Motion Control- NICE!!!!
- Very different
Cons
It is too different
Did I say different?
Post by: bluvasa on September 19, 2005, 03:43:00 PM
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For months, years even, we've been hearing Nintendo reiterate that it does not want to be part of the same battle that Sony and MS are deeply entrenched in. However, with a system like GameCube, the comparisons are inevitable. With Revolution and its one-of-a-kind approach to the controller, drawing these parallels just became a lot more difficult. This was an important message from Nintendo in our meeting. It wants to explore uncharted waters, be a blue ocean company, and not find itself sailing the bloody waters where the competition resides.
Full Article
Good read, I want a Revolution.
Post by: Bogus8 on September 19, 2005, 04:27:00 PM
does anyone really think they will just use the sholder button for view change?? As much as you like having your hands in your lap
you won't HAVE to have them in your lap with the nintendo controller they can rest on your side or wherever you want. Also you don't have to levetate your whole arm to use the gyro stuff... which btw the techonology has improved greatly, has anyone use one of the gyro pointers? I have it worked well (took some getting used to). You have to realize just cause ms failed with it in the past doesn't mean current tech hasn't improve. You guys are going cookoo for coco puffs over the wireless controllers yet I HATE anything wireless I have ever tried (save the $100 logitec laser mouse). BUT I know in time it will improve but till it does I'm not looking at getting any, actually I have a ton of it on the shelf in my office at work as everyone keeps getting me to swap theirs with wired gear since it sucks so bad I use a touch pad, mouse, and a trackball (Kinsington Expert, my fav) and my hand never gets tired.. though if I levetated my hand over my mouse or trackball or touch pad it would... but I can still move all around with either and it's not that big of a deal.
Though I am glad you are still keeping an open mind about it as opposed to others that are bashing it with out any real consideration... guess change scares them *shrug*
Post by: Bogus8 on September 19, 2005, 05:45:00 PM
QUOTE(joerehall @ Sep 19 2005, 06:12 PM)
all i can say about that is nintendo better be careful, as we just learned with apple and the ipod, MS is sneaky as fuck with patents..
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Post by: Bogus8 on September 19, 2005, 06:24:00 PM
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Post by: mgamer20o0 on September 19, 2005, 07:20:00 PM
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i think the idea is good but i dont like the layout. i keep looking at it and wondering how it will work. there is A B and the d pad plus two bellow. Analog stick with two trigger buttons for the left hand. i took one of my tv remotes and acted like i was playing a game. the way the person is holding it would be very hard to press the lower A and B. D pads start to hurt after a while for me, unless its something like xbox controller d pad. i really ? if its really a revolution or a good way to sell their nes games all over again.
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Post by: incognegro on September 19, 2005, 07:46:00 PM
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did i just agree with deftones!?
Its funny though, i know somebody that already holds the xbox controllers this way ( even though there are no buttons up there) and thinks the other way is retarded. It goes to show how different people are.......
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Post by: twistedsymphony on September 19, 2005, 07:47:00 PM
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Post by: Bogus8 on September 19, 2005, 06:24:00 PM
Post by: mgamer20o0 on September 19, 2005, 07:20:00 PM
Post by: incognegro on September 19, 2005, 07:46:00 PM
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Revolution Controller
Pros.
Innovative
Cons.
everything besides innovation
Pros.
Innovative
Cons.
everything besides innovation
did i just agree with deftones!? QUOTE
Cons.
I dont like having 2 shoulder buttons and 2 triggers, I have tested this with my xbox controller. To hold the controller and use your middle fingers for the triggers (like you will have to do on the x360 controller) is not comfortable for very long
I dont like having 2 shoulder buttons and 2 triggers, I have tested this with my xbox controller. To hold the controller and use your middle fingers for the triggers (like you will have to do on the x360 controller) is not comfortable for very long
Its funny though, i know somebody that already holds the xbox controllers this way ( even though there are no buttons up there) and thinks the other way is retarded. It goes to show how different people are.......
Post by: twistedsymphony on September 19, 2005, 07:47:00 PM
QUOTE(Bogus8 @ Sep 19 2005, 06:38 PM)
The white and black buttons were used for those functions because they were white and black buttons... they couldn't really be utilized well.. now that they are in a more accessible area they will probably incorporate functions to them that will be more essential than horn and view change does anyone really think they will just use the sholder button for view change??
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Post by: m_hael on September 20, 2005, 04:17:00 AM
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does anyone really think they will just use the sholder button for view change?? Post by: m_hael on September 20, 2005, 04:17:00 AM
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Sep 19 2005, 07:58 PM)
My point was, if your trigger finger is being used to push the gas 95% of the time then the shoulder button isn't exactly accessible now is it In that situation it is probably less accessible then the black and white buttons.
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Title: Revolution Vs. 360 Vs. Ps3
Post by: incognegro on September 20, 2005, 05:31:00 AM
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Post by: VGman17 on September 20, 2005, 03:56:00 PM
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)-- I don't plan on using my middle fingers, too akward . Sure before you had to sacrifice the functions of the face buttons, but I rather be able to shoot then jump. Of course there will be other games, but I'm planning on playing Halo 2 and Gears of War, for a while, so it's kinda a big deal for me.
Only time will tell.
Props to Nintendo; I will be looking forward to trying it out at Gamestop, Target, ect.
Shame on you Sony, perverts.
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Title: Revolution Vs. 360 Vs. Ps3
Post by: Bogus8 on September 21, 2005, 07:02:00 AM
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And what you do in your spare time with double sided dildo's is something you should keep to yourself
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 21, 2005, 09:55:00 AM
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i wish nintendo luck on this idea. its not like they didnt cover all the bases, if a game requires a normal controller then you just hook it up. but for games that take advantage of this, i think it could bring something new to the table. seeing as how they are going in a totally different direction then their competitors i dont see this hurting them at all.
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Title: Revolution Vs. 360 Vs. Ps3
Post by: gamerguy999 on September 22, 2005, 02:34:00 AM
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You guys notice that Peter Moore praised Nintendo for their controller? It's on the front page of xbox-scene, peter moore interview part 2...
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Title: Revolution Vs. 360 Vs. Ps3
Post by: In3xus on September 27, 2005, 04:05:00 AM
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You litterally had to hold the controller sideways to be able to do a somewhat controlled driveby. So sure this might have been the developers fault but it prooves how hard a controller can be to map at times. I also hate the fact that the Trigger buttons produce so much feedback to the finger (Try racing for some hours and your finger is murdered). This however was also the case with most older controllers (PS1, PS2 and N64) with their D-Pad (Im talking Tekken Fingers here). The Xbox controller is the only one that doesnt make my D-pad finder hurt after only a couple of hours of hurting.
While i cant see how the Revolution controller is going to work i have 'some' experience with gyro controllers that can sense the direction. I have an aged Logitech Gamepad with a built in gyroscope that while doesnt work flawless is very good for gaming (And gives reason to the fact that i always move the joystick of all my consoles in the direction i jump or walk etc..).
On a sidenote i have to complain with the fact that most of the controllers have those screwholes on the worst possible places possible. I mean why cant they fill the holes up or cover them and make my poor hands hurt less when i play (referring to the PS1 / 2 mostly but also the Xbox to a certain degree).
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Title: Revolution Vs. 360 Vs. Ps3
Post by: incognegro on October 01, 2005, 06:50:00 AM
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I disagree.......i have pretty big hands and i could never reach those buttons for the life ofe me during gameplay. The w/b and back/start where the only problems I had with the controller and fixed it. So im happy.
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Title: Revolution Vs. 360 Vs. Ps3
Post by: Carlo210 on October 01, 2005, 10:02:00 AM
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In that situation it is probably less accessible then the black and white buttons.Post by: incognegro on September 20, 2005, 05:31:00 AM
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to get it right is quite revolutionary... to do it as the sole premise of an entire console... well thats just plain loco... I wish them well.
Post by: VGman17 on September 20, 2005, 03:56:00 PM
)-- I don't plan on using my middle fingers, too akward . Sure before you had to sacrifice the functions of the face buttons, but I rather be able to shoot then jump. Of course there will be other games, but I'm planning on playing Halo 2 and Gears of War, for a while, so it's kinda a big deal for me.Only time will tell.
Props to Nintendo; I will be looking forward to trying it out at Gamestop, Target, ect.
Shame on you Sony, perverts.
Post by: Bogus8 on September 21, 2005, 07:02:00 AM
And what you do in your spare time with double sided dildo's is something you should keep to yourself
Post by: KAGE360 on September 21, 2005, 09:55:00 AM
Post by: gamerguy999 on September 22, 2005, 02:34:00 AM
Post by: In3xus on September 27, 2005, 04:05:00 AM
You litterally had to hold the controller sideways to be able to do a somewhat controlled driveby. So sure this might have been the developers fault but it prooves how hard a controller can be to map at times. I also hate the fact that the Trigger buttons produce so much feedback to the finger (Try racing for some hours and your finger is murdered). This however was also the case with most older controllers (PS1, PS2 and N64) with their D-Pad (Im talking Tekken Fingers here). The Xbox controller is the only one that doesnt make my D-pad finder hurt after only a couple of hours of hurting.While i cant see how the Revolution controller is going to work i have 'some' experience with gyro controllers that can sense the direction. I have an aged Logitech Gamepad with a built in gyroscope that while doesnt work flawless is very good for gaming (And gives reason to the fact that i always move the joystick of all my consoles in the direction i jump or walk etc..
).On a sidenote i have to complain with the fact that most of the controllers have those screwholes on the worst possible places possible. I mean why cant they fill the holes up or cover them and make my poor hands hurt less when i play (referring to the PS1 / 2 mostly but also the Xbox to a certain degree).
Post by: incognegro on October 01, 2005, 06:50:00 AM
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be honest i think that MS screwed up when they moved the Original place of the W,B buttons to below the right finger (Like on the S controller)
I disagree.......i have pretty big hands and i could never reach those buttons for the life ofe me during gameplay. The w/b and back/start where the only problems I had with the controller and fixed it. So im happy.
Post by: Carlo210 on October 01, 2005, 10:02:00 AM
QUOTE(VGman17 @ Sep 21 2005, 12:07 AM)
I really love the controller S, so thank you MS for keeping it mostly the same, but personally, I don't like the idea of having to taking my finger off the trigger (or gernade) to use teamsepak in Halo 2 (and any future Bungie game )-- I don't plan on using my middle fingers, too akward . Sure before you had to sacrifice the functions of the face buttons, but I rather be able to shoot then jump. Of course there will be other games, but I'm planning on playing Halo 2 and Gears of War, for a while, so it's kinda a big deal for me.
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Title: Revolution Vs. 360 Vs. Ps3
Post by: Bogus8 on October 01, 2005, 01:48:00 PM
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)-- I don't plan on using my middle fingers, too akward . Sure before you had to sacrifice the functions of the face buttons, but I rather be able to shoot then jump. Of course there will be other games, but I'm planning on playing Halo 2 and Gears of War, for a while, so it's kinda a big deal for me.Post by: Bogus8 on October 01, 2005, 01:48:00 PM
QUOTE(Carlo210 @ Oct 1 2005, 11:13 AM)
Also, no one said you have to press the trigger down with your Middle Finger.
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Title: Revolution Vs. 360 Vs. Ps3
Post by: Carlo210 on October 01, 2005, 04:08:00 PM
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I never said that. What's with some of you?
PS2's R2 and L2 weren't primary buttons, Xbox's black and white buttons weren't primary buttons.
I think I should stick to short and sweet messages from now on.
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Title: Revolution Vs. 360 Vs. Ps3
Post by: Bogus8 on October 01, 2005, 04:50:00 PM
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My point is that you don't know if games will make lots of use of the shoulder buttons or not... maybe the current devs aren't now but they might in the future. When xbox first came out most games barely used them for anything useful now they are used for very useful things in lots of complex games. No one knows where they will go next.
Post by: Carlo210 on October 01, 2005, 04:08:00 PM
PS2's R2 and L2 weren't primary buttons, Xbox's black and white buttons weren't primary buttons.
I think I should stick to short and sweet messages from now on.
Post by: Bogus8 on October 01, 2005, 04:50:00 PM